Netherlands vs Argentina Ref & VAR Decisions

Netherlands vs Argentina Ref & VAR Decisions | Explained

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This video addresses some of the important incidents from the Netherlands vs Argentina game in the Qatar 2022 World Cup Quarter Final, including Paredes' incident with the bench, Van Dijk's push, Messi's handball and Acuna's penalty.
As always, if you're looking for a clear explanation with references to the Laws of the Game, I've got you covered.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:06 Dumfries Foul On Acuna?
0:37 Paredes & Van Dijk Red Cards?
1:49 Messi Handball Yellow Card?
2:07 Thoughts & Questions
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Este video aborda algunos de los incidentes importantes del juego Holanda vs Argentina en los cuartos de final de la Copa del Mundo Qatar 2022, incluido el incidente de Paredes con el banquillo, el empujón de Van Dijk, la mano de Messi y el penal de Acuna.
Deze video behandelt enkele van de belangrijke incidenten uit de wedstrijd tussen Nederland en Argentinië in de kwartfinale van het WK 2022 in Qatar, waaronder het incident van Paredes met de bank, de push van Van Dijk, de handbal van Messi en de penalty van Acuna.

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@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Did the referee get these calls correct? Anything else missed by the match officials in this game?

@Lolix810 Жыл бұрын

Ya .aybe

@lucasfootball637 Жыл бұрын

Couple of mistakes by the ref: Timber during ET, who was already booked, did 3 consecutive strong fouls in less than a couple of minutes and the ref never shown him the second yellow. He should have been sent off. Then Weghorst strong foul on Messi just after his goal could have been the second yellow also (he was booked on the bench in the first half). And finally x why the 10 minutes of aggregate? There was no VAR intervention involved in the game, there were no injuries. The Paredes-Van Djik incident lasted 90 seconds in total and the penalty decision was fast and not contested. The ref should have given 8 minutes top or 9 minutes. The Netherlands equalizer came at minute 101. I can understand why Messi was so angry towards the referee.

@dr.rickbooty Жыл бұрын

The penalty on Gakpo that VAR ignored. What's your excuse?

@randomfootballfan2220 Жыл бұрын

@@dr.rickbootynever a penalty

@dr.rickbooty Жыл бұрын

@@randomfootballfan2220 I want to hear it from OP, not you.

@1manuworld Жыл бұрын

The ref was horrible, he gave yellow cards like candies but was really conservative with red cards and the extra time was a little too much. In Argentina we dislike him and in the Netherlands too.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

He had a poor game Señor Lahoz

@eugenpopa1259 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey this is why argentins won the world because of the either shit referee or pay referee

@afei4989 Жыл бұрын

@@eugenpopa1259😂🤣🤣. If theres one a team stronger than argentina in world cup, they wouldve led the game, or win penalties. But all teams are dominated almost the whole match including the shootout

@gabadur_ Жыл бұрын

@@eugenpopa1259with what money? i wish

@trumtrum5136 Жыл бұрын

Referees shouldn't be consistent between games. They need to be consistent within each game individually.

@davidcameron851 Жыл бұрын

The ref was so bad, paredes fouls aka and then kicked the ball into the Netherlands bench. But how the hell did he not get a red card?!?! That's beyond on me💀💀

@Blehstor 7 ай бұрын

it's literally explained on the video

@thomzijlstra2821 6 ай бұрын

It explained that he should've gotten 2 yellow cards@@Blehstor

@Blehstor 6 ай бұрын

Nope.@@thomzijlstra2821

@ruine77 4 ай бұрын

he should've gotten a red card on the spot

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@ruine77this World Cup was defiantly rigged, lmao. “Ecudarion players getting bribed by Qatar to lose 1-0 against Qatar, the opener game.

@roydebeer4847 Жыл бұрын

I do agree the ref made a decent call on the handball from a neutral standpoint (in any normal match I would agree), but with how Lahoz was delivering yellow's left and right, this was the worst decision he could have made. He wasn't consistent with cards, nor did Messi really get a warning after this. The rules show although this doesn't have to be yellow, it still should be adressed accordingly, and lahoz didn't do that. I wished to see more moments in this game, because it was an absolute mess of a game and I wondered where the true fault lied in the game. (I am dutch btw). Glad to see you agree Paredes should have had red (two time yellow) and van dijk should have had a warning.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Lahoz had a poor game and lost control. I agree he should have warned Messi because although a yellow wasn’t warranted, it could still have been given for unsporting behavior. The Dutch were on the wrong end of some poor decisions and it ruined the spectacle of the game. Lahoz has this issue with so many of his games; cards and chaos. You have to wonder if it’s his attitude and approach that causes it.

@kayodeakano9758 6 ай бұрын

A ball is high in the air, a player raises their hand intentionally to obstruct it, if its not a straight red, why shouldn't be a yellow?

@onizuka4869 4 ай бұрын

@@kayodeakano9758it's at the half way line lmao. netherlands weren't attacking either. it is never a red

@kayodeakano9758 4 ай бұрын

@@onizuka4869 may be not a ref but an intentional handball that interrupts the play of the other team deserves a card

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@onizuka4869doesn’t matter, lmao, intentional handball, should have also gotten a yellow for tauning van gaal and the Netherland bench😂.

@georgebakinio Жыл бұрын

Before two days for Greek super league, AEK ATHENS VS PAO we have exactly the same hand game from Amrabat. Everyone in Greece believes that the player must take a second yellow card. But they didn’t.

@bluebladegaming8788 Жыл бұрын

Handball- Yellow Card Yellow card offenses: Continuous breaking of a rule, delay of game, any foul deemed to be excessive, slide tackles, foul language, dissent towards the referee, verbal abuse towards other players, taunting, taking away an obvious goal scoring opportunity. One of them-taunting, and another that Messi commited was a handball which is a yellow as confirmed with a quick google search is a yellow card.

@albertosei8788 10 ай бұрын

And did those google search also pointed out permutations within the laws of the game on handball incidents? Not every deliberate handball is an instant yellow card offense

@Demonclass 9 ай бұрын

You know football rules better than ref, its his decision not yours. It was not yellow card on the middle of the line and all the argentina players were on their own half. Learn the game

@bobaglow1127 7 ай бұрын

not all slide tackles are even fouls.

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@Demonclassdecision, lmao, the same refeere that denied a penalty for Netherlands and didn’t check var? But not with Argentina that wasn’t even a 1v1 or goal scoring oppturnity?

@Jarrad_utft 3 ай бұрын

@@josefoof1175doesn’t matter whether it’s a 1v1 or not 😂 a foul in the box is a foul in the box, that just proves how you don’t know any rules

@davep4240 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how the match would have ended if they gave a red card for the deliberate kick into the Dutch seats. For Messi to say they suffered afterwards was a bit of a stretch. The PKs was exceptionally weak. I do wish VAR could intervene and help with these soft penalties. Another good video. Thanks for your analysis.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave; appreciate the balanced insight. Game could have been different with the dismissal of Paredes. VAR check all penalties, goals and major incidents as far as I know, but only overrule if it’s a clear error.

@reverseranger Жыл бұрын

Well if Paredes was sent off, it is still 50 50, either Argentina win or Netherlands. Remember that Argentina were already winning prior to that event, so they could go all defensive and match would end 2:1

@ethanbortolussi1126 Жыл бұрын

I mean the defender clearly does step on the foot in the box so it is a foul

@erinblue4043 7 ай бұрын

I think if Paredes was sent off, Argentina would have played more defensively to defend the advantage

@tuff9486 3 ай бұрын

Paredes only lashed out because Messi was fouled badly seconds before. Netherlands also got a free free-kick after fouling Argentina, which led to a goal, when it was Argentina that should have been given that free kick. How is that not stealing? speakign of stealing. They stole a corner kick, after having kicked out hte ball. And not to mention how they got way too much of extra time.

@tarik6990 3 ай бұрын

Lahoz lost control of the game early on much like Ivanov at the World Cup 2006 game between Portugal and the Netherlands. The 2002 Rivaldo incident was even worse because it happened right in front of the assistant referee and Hakan Unsal was still sent off.

@JustCantGetRight Жыл бұрын

What about 3:30, Enzo Fernandez running into Gakpo? He's looking at him the whole time and hits him with evident deliberation. I think him getting away with that uncautioned set the tone for the match.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

The ref lost control in this game by failing to give necessary cautions and then going wild by unnecessarily handing out cautions for minor fouls.

@draguernel1457 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey The referee didn't lose control, he is clearly distributing yellow cards because they have no impact after quarterfinals because they are being reset. But the red card ban still exist after quarterfinals, that's why he avoided to make Fifa lose a tremendous amount of money by not sending Messi off.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Again, completely false assessment. Ref had a poor game.

@LIV7-0MANU Жыл бұрын

@@draguernel1457 Imagine slide tackle and you hit the ball first clearly, but you got a a yellow,shit decision from the ref,right? This is just only one of this ref's shit decision, he also did so many other rubbish decision during the game

@draguernel1457 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey That's your opinion only, but the truth is in front of you, he gave no red card, and Argentina deserved at least 2 clear ones (Paredes and Messi). That's the reality 😉.

@xeldee 21 күн бұрын

Paredes should have got a yellow for the Aké challenge and another yellow for kicking the ball into the bench

@PaulSpacey 19 күн бұрын

That’s a potential outcome yes, determined by the referee’s judgement of the situation. I’ve watched the Ake challenge a few times now and it’s not as bad as I first thought.

@crazymilan2104 Жыл бұрын

Question. Are Martinez antics of throwing the ball away and stalling for time on penalty shootouts worthy of a booking??

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes and he was booked for it I believe. It’s gamesmanship but he went a bit too far IMO when he threw the ball away.

@VV-iu9eo Жыл бұрын

Could you explain why Argentina got penalties against Poland and Saudi Arabia? They didn't help in the end, but they are very questionable to me

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes I did a video showing all VAR decisions and those two were included in that. Both were legitimate penalties IMO

@reverseranger Жыл бұрын

They were legitimate penalties

@Hossain697 Жыл бұрын

@@reverseranger no they weren't expcially vs poland

@IroonieLA 6 ай бұрын

@@Hossain697they were clear pk. Poland gk didn’t even get the ball. Punched Messi in the face instead of getting the ball.

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@IroonieLAlol, it was outside area, lmao and he barely hit him. Can you also explain to me why they got 15 mins added against Saudi??😂

@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын

To add your point on the handball, there's an example in 2018/19 UCL final (L'Pool vs Spurs) where Sissoko deliberately handled the ball (he made his arm position unnatural on purpose) and he wasn't yellow carded as well, despite it's actually in a penalty box, so it's more of a promising attack. Neymar also handled the ball to score deliberately in 14/15 UCL Final. That first foul by Dumfries was a definite foul though, i dunno why people are so egged about it. Lots of similar or even softer fouls are given. Acuna did go down too easily, but there is movement and contact to impede Acuna.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes good points about those additional incidents. The handball law has evolved and guidance has changed; it is confusing to stay up to date. For sure Acuna went down easily but as you say, contact was enough.

@draguernel1457 Жыл бұрын

People are going very far to defend Messi. You are defending a team that played dirty since minute 1. You are defending a "football game" where any player can intentionally smash the ball with his hand if he doesn't like the action. That's a yellow card, a clear offense to allow the defense to get in place, and Messi still went after that to play the ball. Stop finding excuses. Same excuse for the guy who shot a ball at close range on the Netherlands bench to harm, provoke and lose time. In Messi's situation, if Messi gets a red card (deserved red card after 2 clear yellows), the Fifa will lose a big amount of money because he will not play semifinals or even maybe final, and that's if Argentina qualified. So stop acting and behaving like you don't understand that the referee tried his best to not book Argentinian players for a Red, especially Messi.

@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын

@@draguernel1457 The laws are literally there. It was not just Messi that did this and wasn't yellowed. I already give the example of Sissoko and Neymar. You can be emotional all you want, still doesn't change the law of the game. Throw your salt somewhere else.

@draguernel1457 Жыл бұрын

@@yoshuareynaldo2295 You gave two examples while there are thousands, and the majority going against you. Are you saying that a football player can smash the ball with his hand if he doesn't like an action? 🤡

@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын

@@draguernel1457 Yeah right, thousands. 😂😂 Talk is cheap. As if a random internet person compiled even ten examples of handballs and analyzing it. I'll take your statement with a grain of salt. The ones you watch and got yellowed probably were done by a defending player, thus it may have the criteria of 'breaking an promising attack' or 'DOGSO', which rightly been carded. Messi's handball was in centre of the pitch. And yes, it is not right for Messi to did it, if he did it again, he would be yellowed as repeated foul could be carded. So this is not something that could be 'abused'. But i agree with you to be fair, Paredes should have been sent off with a direct red (or at very least a yellow). The ref was wrong in this one. And i do agree that Argentina was and is indeed, favored, however this decision was not.

@ivanzq21 Жыл бұрын

agree, the last image was the best, thanks

@crazymilan2104 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@Laucron Жыл бұрын

Will you make a vid on Argentina vs Croatia? People's been insufferable about the first penalty.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I’m not doing a video on that game for now but the penalty was correct. Goalkeeper didn’t get the ball and collided with Alvarez who got the ball first. Keeper impeded him with contact so it’s a clear foul which would be awarded by 95% of referees.

@alhassanemam.2487 10 ай бұрын

Amazing video thank you soo much i have a question though minute 76:04 why wasnt netherlands awarded a penalty or was it because both the argentinian and netherland player tripped each other

@PaulSpacey 10 ай бұрын

I thought it should have been a penalty. Definitely some doubt based on how they come together but I would lean towards a penalty in those circumstances. Thanks!

@alhassanemam.2487 10 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpaceyyes you might be right it reminded me of the penalty given between Portugal and Ghana when ronaldo was awarded a penalty because it was a soft foul and both hit their foot into each other. Anyways thank you soo much for your reply!!!

@kaushikanarshann1483 Ай бұрын

Sorry for asking this late but while messi is taking the penalty molina was already in the box which is against the rule so it should have been a penalty retake right? Your thoughts on this?

@PaulSpacey Ай бұрын

Usually referees will only demand a retake if the player entering the box is very clearly well inside and potentially impacts the keeper and/or the play after the penalty is taken. It’s always a common sense call from the ref based on the situation.

@milonga_ Жыл бұрын

great video man, I appreciate that youre making these

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Manuel!

@Toverneger Жыл бұрын

This ref was more than enough proof that the game, I'd even say the entire tournament, was rigged in Argentina's favor.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

That’s a stretch 👀

@Toverneger Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey This is only the tip of the iceberg called "things that were scaled in favor of Argentina". Can you not see why they were made to win?

@grasi5846 9 ай бұрын

True mate we witnessed all how rigged this fucking qatar oil slavery tournament was

@christophervalladares9055 9 ай бұрын

Nah it was just terrible referring by both teams I doubt it lahoz wanted Messi to win Argentina were just fair champions for me but I think paredes just hit the ball to the bench not like he hit any one so I think the yellow is good and for me Van dijk with full intent pushed paredes and should of got a red but my opinion

@hbrl2075 8 ай бұрын

Netherlands got 10 min of extra time for tie and the referee gave a free kick very close to Argentina's net in minute 10:35!!!!!! How is that rigged?? And he literally gave yellow card for 10 Argentina players.

@harrykane_ Жыл бұрын

Great videos, Just curious to know, Do you have any experience in refereeing or like do you like just know alot about the Rules from doing your own research

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate the comment. I played for 15 years then became a ref and coach. Hard to keep up with the laws and changes so I’m always learning!

@beunknownh6965 9 күн бұрын

Referees must have forgotten these rules when it comes the opponent teams, they were very quick to punish Argentina’s opponent teams. If were other than messi, that handball would have surely costed yellow card. This single incident and the parades not getting clear second yellow card speak volumes about this rigged cup.

@PaulSpacey 7 күн бұрын

Argentina still deserved to win. Saying rigged cup is an easy way out. They had stuff go their way, sure.

@jdfshijhawkb Жыл бұрын

It's an old one, but I've always wondered about Higuain vs. Neuer in the 2014 WC final. Think you could do a quick explanation on that?

@mohdshahariar5833 Жыл бұрын

I think its similar to Livakovic and Julian, in both scenarios the goalkeeper crashed into the player to stop them from going further to score, difference is, Neuer cleared the ball, punching it away, and then crashed into higuain, whereas Livakovic never touched the ball in that situation, hence a foul.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Agree with this description of the differences 👍

@jdfshijhawkb Жыл бұрын

I see what you mean, but I think Neuer's knee to the face of Higuain should be considered too, no? Coulda been serious. According to Fifa rules you are not allowed to risk your opponent getting a serious injury, no matter if a movement is usually allowed. If you risk your opponents health you get immediately the red card.

@mohdshahariar5833 Жыл бұрын

@@jdfshijhawkb End of the day it wasn't a serious injury, so I don't think any action can be considered. Sure, a yellow card, but it is not a foul.

@jdfshijhawkb Жыл бұрын

Surely the rules are to be enforced for injury prevention, not only after a serious injury has occurred. Like sliding with the studs up, or high foot - most often they are called without serious injury happening. But alas, Neuer never made it out of the group stage again. A sacrifice Higauin was willing to make.

@lesedimakarane8372 Жыл бұрын

That's a deliberate handball and worthy of a yellow card. He halted play

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Deliberate handball isn’t an automatic yellow. But you can argue for unsporting behavior, subjectively.

@Kaiikatsuki 5 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpaceyIn rule 12 of IFAB, IFAB states it’s a caution if the player is making their body unnaturally bigger by extending their arms which is what Messi is doing, Messi also changed the ball’s trajectory which is also a guaranteed caution. This handball is clearly a yellow card.

@reverseratiomaster2463 4 ай бұрын

@@Kaiikatsukikeep crying

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@reverseratiomaster2463lol, messi is a joke😂

@reverseratiomaster2463 3 ай бұрын

@@josefoof1175 yep, it's ridiculously funny how good he is

@jellevo6063 Жыл бұрын

Could you explain why the Netherlands did not get a penalty for the Fouls on Aké (push during free kick with both hands necessary to prevent goal). And more clearly Gakpo being pushed from behind when he was almost 1on1 with the goalkeeper? And why there weren't replays of this and only a 1 second var Check?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

VAR would have checked both; they will only bring to the attention of the referee if they believe he has made a clear error. I don’t remember the Aké foul but the Gakpo one I watched yesterday; I think that one was a penalty because of the contact from behind and VAR should have recommended a full review IMO.

@amarathossion7329 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey That means Argentina's wining world cup was unfair

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I guess if you look at it that way, you could say that but in football these decisions sometimes go for you and sometimes go against. We all kind of accept that by playing!

@amarathossion7329 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Ok. So it is a part of game. But Argentina should be appreciated for that how they came back after losing against Saudi Arabia. And I think some decisions sometimes go for the team who becomes champion

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Correct 😌

@epicsam12345 Жыл бұрын

Sorry I know this is old now, but I'm hearing that the referee was already whistling at the players to give an argentine advantage before Messi'a handball, which is why he stopped the ball with his hand to address the change of possession. Is this true?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

no, I'm certain that wasn't the case :-)

@epicsam12345 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey So what do you think incited Messi to do that?

@luism8989 Жыл бұрын

Can you mention the free kick which the Netherlands used to equalize? I believe the attackers were set up too close to the wall. The laws of the game say all attackers must be at least 1m away from the wall. De Jong seems to be certainly closer than 1m away. The play would therefore not be legal.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Again it’s a ‘trifling’ issue for the referee if De Jong does not directly interfere with or impact the wall or the play. Just like the players on the field when Messi scores vs France. No impact on the play so discretion and common sense overrules the written laws.

@faroo1101 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey common bro. there were some penalties also which Argentina got when GK tried to stop ball but refree gave them foul, it was unintentional also but got penalty

@joshuastam7704 11 ай бұрын

Messi should have gotten 3 yellow cards and Paredes red. The penalty was a weak penalty but it was a penalty. There was contact. There was also a penalty for the Netherlands that the referee nor VAR checked which there was contact too.

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

Pretty fair assessment.

@adityavinod7276 9 ай бұрын

3 yellow cards a bit of a stretch mate

@christophervalladares9055 9 ай бұрын

The Netherlands also got denied a pen when was that never seen the Dutch got denied a pen

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@christophervalladares9055they got in the 87th minute, gakpo was about have a 1v1, but got pushed from behind, no review of var.😂

@ndnd7614 Жыл бұрын

Refs clearly have their biases

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

They do. We all have inherent biases that are subconscious. Nobody is 100% impartial

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpaceybro, how much did the refeere get paid, a genuine question 🎉

@painteasy Жыл бұрын

there were some other situations where I thought some argentinian players were challenging the ball in a completely legal way, and yet they got a yellow card. Is there going to be a part 2?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I won’t do a part 2 for this game. The referee lost some control and gave out a crazy number of cards. Señor Lahoz had a poor game

@draguernel1457 Жыл бұрын

And yellows cards are being reset after quarters, so all Yellow cards had no effect on Argentina and allowed Messi to play until Final, The referee knew it and that's why he didtributed yellows but no red.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Your bias is warping your perspective on this unfortunately 👀

@asnark7115 Жыл бұрын

@@draguernel1457 And you're copy-pasting a bunch of garbage that ignores the video replay of an incident that didn't even need a replay to put you in your place.

@nox12 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't there was a prior foul before Messi's hand, while the others were like half court away 🤔

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

Half court? 🏀

@thm8792 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Could you do the game Vs Croatia

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I think that might be the only game I’m missing now; I’ll look into doing it

@thegreenreaper6660 10 күн бұрын

Not giving atleast yellow for torpedo-ing the ball into the dutch dug out, is already disgraceful. Als not giving Messi a yellow card for such an OBVIOUS hands-ball, kinda indicates this match was fixed: Argentina, and Messi were to have that World Title..

@PaulSpacey 7 күн бұрын

Fixed 🤦‍♂️

@RJG7203 10 ай бұрын

Some people point our that the penalty should have been retaken because the Argentine enter the goal line or penalty area before the ball was kicked by Messi. What are your thoughts?

@PaulSpacey 10 ай бұрын

It’s always a situation decided by the officials based on whether players from one or both teams have clearly entered the area before the kick is taken. Even when this happens, sometimes it is ignored. There are guidelines for this in the laws of the game but the match officials still ultimately decide based on each individual situation.

@parthivdatta7338 9 ай бұрын

Messi got Yello card but pardes was wrong but vandijk should get a Yellow card

@dhruvkhatana5060 5 ай бұрын

Yes offcourse maybe both parades and van dijk should receive red card

@user-sz6wu6rt3r Ай бұрын

@@dhruvkhatana5060no only parades

@user-sz6wu6rt3r Ай бұрын

@@dhruvkhatana5060for attempted murder 💀

@a7md_102 Жыл бұрын

No hate for Argentina and Messi. I think the victory was illegitimate, no bookings for several fouls including handballs, false penalty which resulted in a false goal, and paredes should’ve been sent off

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Every game has decisions that could be considered unfair or incorrect. Argentina navigated the tournament and deservedly won IMO. And it’s hard for an English guy to say that 😅

@a7md_102 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Messi didn’t get booked for a handball and arguing with the referee

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Again, you can pick out incidents Iike that from most games. Let’s say hypothetically the referee has some subconscious bias that means he doesn’t book Messi; that’s not Messi or Argentina’s fault and it doesn’t detract from them deservedly winning the WC.

@a7md_102 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey but I do agree that they deserved it

@robertoschafer549 9 ай бұрын

@@a7md_102 penal falso? Toca el pie de apoyo y lo tira en el área...hay varias tomas de esa jugada donde se ve con claridad la falta.

@redharlock9237 Жыл бұрын

You not talking about the penalty itself? Have you seen Number 26 of Argentina was inside the penalty box before the penalty was performed?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes there were players from both teams inside the penalty area so technically the kick should have been retaken.

@brucelansberg5485 Ай бұрын

The penalty: Clear contact is not worth a penalty by definition. Football is a contact sport. If you look closely, you'll see that Acuna feels contact, retracts his leg himself and makes it appear as if Dumfries kicked his leg underneath him. He makes two moves himself to get his leg away from under his body. The handling of the ball may be open for interpretation. I am sure some refs would consider it unsporting behavior :).

@PaulSpacey Ай бұрын

Some penalties can be argued against. This is not one of them my friend 🤝

@akananthu6390 Жыл бұрын

can you check on Argentina vs Croatia is it a penalty ?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s a penalty based on circumstances with keeper colliding with Alvarez who gets to the ball first. Most refs would consider it a penalty but it’s not 100%.

@TheDutchyNL Жыл бұрын

Why are so many people saying messi handball should never be a yellow, the bias is obvious! handballing on purpose to prevent the other team gaining possion of the ball is punishable with a yellow card under unsporting behaviour.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. A yellow is only mandatory if it stops a promising attack, which Messi didn’t. A yellow for UB is at the discretion of the referee.

@TheDutchyNL Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Not necessarily.? Purposefully making a handball to prevent the opponent from getting the bal is not unsportive to you? In other words, every time a player doesnt like something, they can just play volleyball and get away with it every time, as long as its not a promising attack. Stop the Messi bias dude, it was unsporting behaviour, it was a clear yellow for anyone not looking away because it's messi, the ''discretion'' in that rule allows for bias.

@TheDutchyNL Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey I know it's at their discretion but a ref not giving one for a blatant action like that, and half the world parroting the ''promising attack rule'' ignoring the unsportive behaviour, shows you just how much Messi can get away with(and his team as well) because it is Messi. Lahoz was terrible all across the pitch, but very much so more terrible in Argentina's favour. The penalty on 1-0 was a dive for example, and it shouldnt even have counted, another argentina player already walked into the box before Messi shot the ball, that's an illegal pen. I can go on and on and on.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Of course, it depends on your perspective and inherent bias. You are coming from a Dutch perspective right? An Argentine perspective will be completely different. This is why we have so many disagreements in the game; we are all watching something different. I explain it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5tgl8l9zby4aaM.html

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I’m English; I have zero Messi bias. I’m explaining this to you from the perspective of someone who is/was a referee and also a player at a good level of the game. Unsporting behavior is a subjective issue determined by the match official based on the moment. The referee could have yellow carded Messi and nobody would have argued against it. But by not giving him a card, he didn’t contravene any of the LOTG or guidance.

@johnsworld8362 Жыл бұрын

Every other deduction made here is right for me

@idontknowaname5598 Жыл бұрын

Could you explain berghuis his yellow card? Great video btw!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Let me take a look at it

@idontknowaname5598 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey did you find it?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

No, do you know what minute it was or a tough time in the game?

@idontknowaname5598 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey I believe it was like 88

@idontknowaname5598 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey watched it back myself, it’s at 87;00 exactly, I understand the card now tho.

@agostonpad4183 Жыл бұрын

You forgot that someone entered the penalty area before messi scored the penalty

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Was it a Dutch player?

@thm8792 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey it was Molina however there were Dutch players in the box to

@muhammadakbarramadhan914 Жыл бұрын

@@thm8792 Yes, but the Dutch players (dumfries) entered first

@gamerunner4223 Жыл бұрын

What type of meat riding is this😂😂😂😂

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

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@pvmt86 17 күн бұрын

This game was a prime example of how refs were clearly in favor of the Argentinians throughout the entire tournament

@PaulSpacey 15 күн бұрын

You really think so? They didn’t just play well and win the tournament?

@pvmt86 15 күн бұрын

@@PaulSpacey They played well, but not that well. After 5 awarded penalties and very questionable decisions of refs, all in the ARG favor it´s difficult to believe that the tournament was not fixed. Infantino said before the tournament "It would be a shame if Messi wouldn´t win the World Cup". And Infantino and the corrupt Arab billionaires obviously made it happen.

@thm8792 Жыл бұрын

Can you explain how the challenge on gakpo around 70ish mins was not a penalty my explanation is that Molina touched him but it took gakpo a few seconds to fall down but wouldn't that count as tripping?

@h81872 Жыл бұрын

molina actually never touched gakpo，once he enter the box he raise his hand，it’s gakpo slow down his speed then made Molina hit him and he falling down

@thm8792 Жыл бұрын

@@h81872 the video isn't clear enough sadly so we can't even tell

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I saw it at the time and thought it was a close call but likely not a penalty. It’s all opinion though

@caliboy09 Жыл бұрын

Romero handball 44:42?

@mightymoeish 10 ай бұрын

I've seen much less given as a red for unsportsmanlike behavior than what Paredes did. I'm not saying it was rigged for Argentina 100% but veryyyy suspicious.

@PaulSpacey 10 ай бұрын

Not sure it’s rigged if the ref just gets it wrong. He had a poor game.

@anonymous-nh5sw 7 ай бұрын

So what if you've seen red cards for much less? I'm sure you've also seen red cards not given for much worse, so I don't quite see your point

@salemsalem-jb1bg Жыл бұрын

You did not talk about the Argentinians behavior after the match?? Caniggia was rewarded a red card in 2002 while he was on the bench, only for a bad comment to the referee, why do we see this behavior from the Argentinians without any questioning from the FIFA in 2022?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It seems clear that referees were encouraged to do everything they can to keep everyone on the field and avoid red cards. Keeping players on the field to make the game a true spectacle makes sense but bad behavior should be punished appropriately, before or after the final whistle.

@salemsalem-jb1bg Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey do their best to avoid red cards? Why do we have red cards then? Being fair is the priority of any game, not giving red cards to the Argentinian players is a very unfair game, unfortunately this behavior from FIFA was very obvious through the whole tournament.

@thesisadvisor2085 Жыл бұрын

@@salemsalem-jb1bg When you officiate World Cup games, give them a few reds.

@asnark7115 Жыл бұрын

Because both benches were acting up and deserved cards for their behaviors. Just look at the Paredes/Van Dijk melee: Paredes tackled the ball away and in the process cleared out Ake. The Dutch bench saw the ball contact from up close and still rushed the field screaming. Paredes reciprocated their childishness and everything blew up.

@triciclosonido Жыл бұрын

and what was exactly the "behavior" of the Argentinians after the match? The Otamendi gesture imitating Messi? Give me a break, And after that, all players from both sides went after each other for a while, but nothing serious happened. It was a heated match, with a lot of errors from the referee (on both sides) and both teams recurring to shithousery at the end. Nothing more.

@muazzamshaikh2049 Жыл бұрын

Let us know about the red card that Dumfries received after the match was over

@harrykane_ Жыл бұрын

Tbf deserved and it was a second yellow i believe. Emi Martinez also got a Yellow card in the final for interfering during the PKs.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Harry, you cleared this one up for me!

@muazzamshaikh2049 Жыл бұрын

@@harrykane_ yes I know, but the card which dumpfries got was after the shootout. Apparently he was interfering with Argentina players during celebration. I'm just aaking is there a video on it. I just want to see what exactly did he do.

@akananthu6390 Жыл бұрын

Is there a penalty for brazil ...in brazil vs Croatia handball by Croatia player ? ...

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I don’t recall it, send me a link if you have one. Brazil dominated and should have won that game

@akananthu6390 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLthmtd8mNbNgqM.html

@debmalyachakrabortybigmhs4121 Жыл бұрын

Can you explain Arg vs Croatia penalty decision?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes I did in a previous video; you mean the goalkeeper foul on Alvarez? It’s a penalty for sure; keeper doesn’t touch the ball and impedes Alvarez with contact.

@fightingforce8498 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey he ran towards the goalkeeper. Try running towards the goalposts and see if you fall.

@Thomas-fr1jk Жыл бұрын

@fighting force no lol keeper was moving towards the ball,doesn't get it and collides with alvarez he made contact while in motion which means its a pen

@tvcultural68 27 күн бұрын

I disagree with Paredes receiving a red card. He kicked the bench; who is the victim? There was no victim.

@PaulSpacey 27 күн бұрын

The intent is sufficient. Some refs would have dismissed him, it’s not clear cut.

@berzaku67 Жыл бұрын

No one talks about the potential second yellow card for Weghorst right after the first Dutch goal, he was given a yellow on the bench and was saved after a reckless foul on Messi right after their first goal. No one talks about that because it isnt Argentina who committed the foul

@saihat6 9 ай бұрын

Because it came later in the game. Give Parades a red card and the whole thing would switch to Netherlands. Weghorst won't need to foul messi, he would be laughing at him. The fact that parades survived a red card.

@TsuyoiYatsu Жыл бұрын

I thought messi handled the ball as he wanted the game stopped after a supposed foul by ake(?).

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

No he just reacted by handling it; no big deal and not a yellow based on the laws but I guess a ref could award a yellow for unsporting behavior and be justified.

@lucasfootball637 Жыл бұрын

You cannot compare Paredes with the turkish player in 2002. The reason why Paredes didn't get sent off is that he didn't hit any other player. He kicked the ball towards the bench but it slammed an empty seat and didn't touch any dutch player. You should mention this. The turkish player in 2002 hit Rivaldo directly. That's a huge difference because if Paredes ball didn't touch anyone, there could be no concrete aggression and therefore there could be no second yellow. The ref got that one right.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t have to hit anyone; the intent is enough and it hit a fan, so it did hit someone. Still a subjective decision and you can argue it either way 👍

@lucasfootball637 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey you have to prove intent, I agree. Not that easy. In my view I agree that Paredes should have been sent off. And Van Djik also should have been red carded because he came running and chested the Argentine player too violently. However I think the ref didn't red card Paredes because of the fact that he didn't make contact with anyone. Great channel by the way.

@clementguitard6653 Жыл бұрын

@@lucasfootball637 He didn't because dutch players dodged the ball.

@JustCantGetRight Жыл бұрын

The logic of not sending Paredes off for his actions is like not arresting someone for hurling stones into incoming traffic because they don't hit anyone... or shooting a gun into a crowd and not getting arrested because you didn't hit anyone.

@jojolapatate6662 Жыл бұрын

@@JustCantGetRight exactly, the shoot from Paredes was clearly filled with hates. That's the perfect way to start a fight and lose the control of the match. For me, If you do not give a redcard at this moment, it means they will be an accident before you send off a player while your role is to keep them safe (from each others).

@justmethenetherlands2218 4 ай бұрын

Argentina took advantage of that handball because the Netherlands had had the ball and could have attacked immediately while the Argentinians were advancing. Now they had time to anticipate this and get everything right again. It was also spoiling the game and wasting time. So it definitely should have been a yellow card. Which would have meant that Messi would not have finished the match with 2 yellow cards. Argentina should have finished the match with 9 men. The penalty that Messi took in the match should also have been taken as an Argentinian player walked in far too early, which is not allowed according to the rules.

@kleanthis3268 Жыл бұрын

You should review Greek's superleague matches bro, trust me😂 The first referee here in Greece is Mark Clattenberg an English man

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Clattenburg used to be good in England 😅

@Blehstor 7 ай бұрын

Bro, not all chest bumps are the same. A chest bump that sends you flying is clearly different than a normal chest bump...

@PaulSpacey 7 ай бұрын

That’s how referees look at it. It’s not violent conduct so wouldn’t be a red.

@Blehstor 6 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpacey a chestbump is not the same as running someone over and hitting them with your chest so they fly away.. it clearly is violent conduct and not just a "chest bump" he came from a distance without stopping and basically ran him over

@pbloemer 9 ай бұрын

Which VAR decisions? The VAR was invisible that match.

@PaulSpacey 9 ай бұрын

Poor game by the officials.

@florawu27 9 ай бұрын

Anyone who at least once watched a football match should read the Laws of the Game

@lukasztrz 5 ай бұрын

Nothing explains Messi's lack of a yellow card

@PaulSpacey 5 ай бұрын

Explained in the video and plenty of comments. It’s a subjective decision, not an objective one where is yellow is mandatory.

@MMM18092 5 ай бұрын

Intercepting a ball like that with your hand is surely a yellow card regardless of other players’ positions? I have never seen a ref not give a yellow card in comparable circumstances.

@PaulSpacey 4 ай бұрын

It’s a fair point. The laws of the game do not mandate a yellow but in most circumstances one would probably be given.

@kloes7944 11 ай бұрын

The ref got fired after that match cuz messi should got red card dumbfries his foul wasn’t a foul but acunã just feld to the ground and there where 17 yellow cards where atleast should be 1 or 2 red cards in that game and i dont now for sure but i thinks Argentina buyed the ref win the game

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

Ref had a poor game for sure.

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

No, Qatar helped them

@rynmaqblbm7765 Ай бұрын

Referee already whistled before the handball

@weintraub6683 6 ай бұрын

Paredes is never just a potential red. Straught red

@PaulSpacey 6 ай бұрын

Subjective, so it’s potential.

@nacholla7866 Жыл бұрын

When paredes was in the floor , two other players pushed him or smacked his head. Netherlands could have got 2 yellow cards in that case. I believe the referee did well not making more drama and letting soccer be soccer.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It’s a fair perspective; the ref lost control in other parts of the game though, that’s what fans were frustrated about.

@RVA-io9lw 10 ай бұрын

Football cup. Not soccer cup!

@nacholla7866 10 ай бұрын

@@RVA-io9lw im from Argentina...First, I can adapt to whatever way you want to say it and language. Second France.

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@nacholla7866ok, ok enjoy ur rigged wolrd cup. But defiantly a red card for Lionel messi and paredes

@nacholla7866 3 ай бұрын

@@josefoof1175 you need to learn to loose like a man. Grow balls and talk with your dad

@BFloppa Жыл бұрын

Foi pênalti no Álvarez contra a Croácia?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

IMO it was a penalty because Alvarez got to the ball first and the keeper then collided with him to impede his progress. Debatable incident depending on your perspective

@BFloppa Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey in my opinion the penalties for Argentina were all questionable, that's why many are questioning the cup that Argentina won, however, two penalties were irrelevant to the game, like Poland and Arabia, and the penalty against France, it was the biggest penalty of all. I would like to know your opinion on all this, has Argentina been helped?

@afei4989 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpaceyi think it is a penalty, the keeper obstruct alvarez path towards the ball with his leg albeit inadvertently. As for the second alvarez goal, he ran directly onto the keeper's body so no foul on the keeper's part

@mo.011 Жыл бұрын

@@BFloppaWatch his other videos because he exposed that Argentina all got deserved penalties only haters would say that 😂

@messii648 7 ай бұрын

This is match is not rigged the ref is just Bert vad he booked for both teams I think after the match he almost lost his job I don’t remember it was a big backlash

@shamarlingaard2115 Ай бұрын

So when the ball on the line of the goal ore even a bit of the ball is on the line it’s not a goal but when the Argentina player was on the line of the box it a penalty who are you fooling

@PaulSpacey Ай бұрын

That’s what the laws of the game say, big man.

@iwnb420 11 ай бұрын

Dutch guy here, but trying to be objective. We weren't the better team let's clear that. Paredes should have been given easy red which could have gave some control over this game back to the referee. Imo I would have understood if van Dijk got a 2nd yellow for the chest bump and was also send off. According to the video maker it wasn't necessary according to the rules so perhaps that one was les convincing. Even if Netherlands would have been 11 vs 10 I still doubt if they would have made it, we had a bad world cup and were only able to capitalize when the pressure was high or vs easy teams. The penalty was justified however I hate how football is sometimes more about performing for an oscar to get a penalty instead of football. Love to see people like Haaland play these days who just try to keep on going most of the time instead of being a hollywood actor. Our WC we were genuinely good was WC 2010, freaking Spain dude ...

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

Very balanced and rational comment. Thank you for that. Paredes could well have seen 🛑 and it is possible the game changes. I think most football fans would agree that they want players to try and stay on their feet and not be theatrical. That said, if another player makes enough contact to bring you down and it’s advantageous for you to go down instead of staying up, that’s part of the game from a players’ perspective.

@Kitmaru1P7 11 ай бұрын

I like Argentina but discipline wise they did not have any. Expected better refereeing in a semis or final.

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

It’s part of their character and culture. They can be antagonistic and seem aggressive but it works for them and I respect it. At that level it’s about doing whatever is necessary to win and they did that.

@dulthondinho Жыл бұрын

Will argentina vs france be replayed again? Because there is a petition that was made from france and more then 200k signature was signed, so was just wondering if it will replay?

@hussainalhashim6289 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely not. They will not replay the game even if they found major mistakes. The referee actually made a great job in that game and you can watch the analysis made in this channel to see how there is nothing worth repeating the game for.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Zero chance of it happening, even if Macron and Eric Cantona sign the petition ☺️

@scneon Жыл бұрын

There's also a petition for "France to stop crying" and has more votes that the one you said so that shows how serious those petitions are

@jojolapatate6662 Жыл бұрын

Every years there are petitions now. Almost each tournament ends at least with one. 😂 But none of them has never had a chance to change anything.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

@@jojolapatate6662 true; it will never change anything because the laws of the game do not provide a remedy for any change after the game has finished

@bay0r Жыл бұрын

i think the situation with messi's handball is that it had no relevance to the game itself. could give a yellow but it was just a hand play and free kick should be given

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Correct, he wasn’t stopping a promising attack so no yellow necessary

@chrisfischer5552 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey It looked like showing lack of respect for the game, which is grounds for a booking.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It’s a fair argument Chris and there is definitely an angle for a caution. Just not for the more common issue of stopping a promising attack

@asnark7115 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't there also a judgement on the Messi handball that an infraction had already taken place just beforehand so that play was called back before Messi handling it? I actually don't remember that moment as much as I remember the Paredes tackle which cleared out the ball and subsequently Ake.

@abdullahdon1082 Жыл бұрын

Wow bro said paredes should get red for kicking the ball to the bench while van djick just a yellow for sending paredes miles away

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Chest bump isn’t a red card. Paredes potential red card is debatable in circumstances. Cheers bro.

@abdullahdon1082 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey hurting another player on purpose should be red or at least in my opinion either by chest or other parts of the body

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It’s ok to have that opinion; it’s just not how the laws are interpreted and applied. If you raise you hands to push/hit someone or use your head, that’s different to a chest bump.

@johnsworld8362 Жыл бұрын

'He didn't interfere with any attackin-' it's frigging Messi! The last defenders were Ake and Virgil I think what do you think would happen if Messi kept on with that play with just two defenders against him. That should've been a yellow whether he had teammates with him or not

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

If the ref gives a yellow for unsporting behavior, nobody would argue with it. The LOTG allow the ref to NOT give a yellow in this circumstance but of course it’s subjective in terms of interpretation.

@johnsworld8362 Жыл бұрын

Well, so far so good It's already past us and nothing can be changed. We can only learn from this

@davidvarga6518 5 ай бұрын

I think when Parades strikes the ball to Netherland's bench the right dicision is give Parades a yellow and Van Dijk get a yellow to. Or Parades and Van Dijk got a red. I give them a yellow because Parades didn't hit a player.

@OceanicLegendLafreniere 2 ай бұрын

Well the red had to use discretion in that situation cuz Paredes had 2 bookable offences, and Van Dijk had a red card worthy play. But VVD didn’t even get a booking for it, so the ref felt he had to give Paredes only a yellow.

@BlueTigerReal 2 ай бұрын

So you just neglected the foul before 😂

@ohyeah-dc1hx Жыл бұрын

Refering on the pitch is a though job but I would expect more concistancy from FCE Netherlands vs Argentina Ref & Var Decisions | Expained "Little objection or demonstration from Netherlands players. Top professionels know when it's a foul, and their immediate reactions are usually telling." Argentina vs France Ref & Var Decisions Part 1 | Expained "Notice here how the French players all put their arms in unison. that's a great indication for the referee that they know it's a foul"

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

good point and I understand your perspective here but remember they are different things. No objection at all usually means agreement that there is nothing to object to. An objection where every player throws their arms up at the same time is often a sign they also know it's a foul. Watch player reactions in a genuine case of a foul not being committed; they angrily go to the referee and/or player to protest. Every situation is different; good refs will use player reactions as part of decision making when it is appropriate.

@aleksatv8344 Жыл бұрын

are you ok, acunas leg was inside area, are you blind?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Correct 👀

@devrobloxgaming2999 11 ай бұрын

HOLY SHIT! THANKS REF! IF THAT WAS A YELLOW THAT MATCH MESSI WOULD HAVE GOT A RED CARD💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@Sam-en7jk 9 ай бұрын

U totally skipped the video

@Jose91131 2 ай бұрын

YOU THINK MESSI that dumb to argue with the ref on a yellow

@aleksatv8344 Жыл бұрын

I think this penalty was clearly and correct and messi would have yellow card with handball, but messi was angry because before match netherla ds players were very rude and said incorrect words to argentinians and because messi was very angry, also he was angry with vangaal because. Vangaal hates argentinians and he didnot play dimaria in mancbester united as i know

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Not sure VG hates Argentina 😉

@aleksatv8344 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey messi said that he was disrespectful by vangaal , he talked too mutch before the match started and other players during the match

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Again, it’s part of the psychology of the game. Happens all the time.

@aleksatv8344 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey this is unrespctfull from oppo ent side and not everyone doing this, there are not happen in every match. Netherland player dont know to respect opponent and respect your oponent is the main part of football too

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

If you think this isn’t happening in almost every game at the top level, you’re naive.

@decemberdecember4401 2 ай бұрын

You can not foul messi, or touch messi that would be immediately punished.. While messi can delibrately stop the play with the hand.. Thats how its works..

@aleksatv8344 Жыл бұрын

And what do you say nethwrlands were and had very many fouls, also before match as messi said netherlands were very unhuman and were very rude with argentinain footballers, everything started before match when netherlands said very incorrect words go argentinians, they were also very rude during the match

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

All part of the psychological game. At the end of the day football is played on the field; that’s all that matters in the end.

@Beertje21 Жыл бұрын

agree with the 2 yellow cards but the handball from Messi was unsporting behaviour and shouldve received a yellow card too

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Of course the ref always has that option of a YC for unsporting behavior but it’s not typical in a handball situation where a promising attack isn’t being stopped.

@dawae4623 Жыл бұрын

worst referee in the whole tournament by far

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

He was poor in this game that’s for sure. Likes to be center of attention 🙄

@luperamos7307 Жыл бұрын

The penalty was a dive. Yes, he did touch him, but the fall was deliberate. You are from England and it's really surprising how much times have changed that someone from England would call this a penalty. The Paredes van Dijk scene you got correct. Personally I would say that this sort of playacting by Paredes should also be an offense, but it's never seen as such.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It’s a subjective issue based on your experience and perspective. If I’m in the penalty area in front of a player and they make contact from behind, even if it’s not a lot of contact, I’m going down unless I’m through on goal with a chance to shoot (Di Maria had players in front of him). He made a calculated, smart move (you can argue against this of course). It’s a foul but it’s soft. The game is different now and we have to adjust; even though I’m English, being ‘honest’ and never going down puts you at a disadvantage. You’ve got to play the game a bit. That’s just how it is.

@luperamos7307 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey I remember the time when Klinsmann was called a diver in England and he never went down without any contact. He always exaggerated the contact. That was seen as diving back then in England, but was the norm in Italy. Those would be more than soft fouls nowadays. Football has always been a physical sport and I think it should keep some of that physicality. I am not in favor of these 1980s fouls, but it's become too soft.

@harrykane_ Жыл бұрын

@@luperamos7307 Take a look at that Ghana vs Portugal penalty too. It has indeed become unbelievably soft sad to see.

@luperamos7307 Жыл бұрын

@@harrykane_ I agree. I only watch World Cups and have to say that I am shocked what is considered a penalty nowadays

@asnark7115 Жыл бұрын

Playacting?

@rafaelc.c. 11 ай бұрын

All yellow cards were correct to be honest. Actually I would have handed out some more red cards. Some behaviours were intolerable.

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

Balanced view, I agree.

@meneerkodak9971 Жыл бұрын

Just wondering why FIFA even considers a Spanish (talking) ref for such an important game where 1 team's mother's language is Spanish? That just blows my mind.. For sure the Argentinians aren't talking English with him.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

while language is a factor, the referees are chosen based on their quality and ability to officiate that particular game (or at least that's how it is supposed to be!)

@lussacmomin6178 Жыл бұрын

I understand if shit goes down in just one match it can be a coincidence But most the Argentina games have doubtful questions of it being favoured for Argentina

@JGamerOMG Жыл бұрын

Cry

@lussacmomin6178 Жыл бұрын

@@JGamerOMG aren't you ashamed of Messi?

@fightingforce8498 Жыл бұрын

@@lussacmomin6178 he's not even ashamed. He's delusional

@lussacmomin6178 Жыл бұрын

@@fightingforce8498 that's what Barca fans said to Chelsea fans in the champions League 2009

@albertosei8788 10 ай бұрын

@@lussacmomin6178 There's a video that also exposes the bias in Chelsea vs Barcelona in 2009 that went in Chelsea favor...stop the hate

@german.geography.mapper 2 ай бұрын

26 yellow cards in one match. 😂

@pragyanadhikary1741 5 күн бұрын

Pessi got a penalty Every game in the wc

@KevinSmith-sp6xf 11 ай бұрын

Lol, you guys are delusional justifying the hand ball. Messi and Argentina were gifted the world cup. He shoulda been thrown out and Argentina left with 10 players. It’s not personal. Congrats to Argentina. Fake ass tournament though

@PaulSpacey 11 ай бұрын

Bit harsh Kev. Not sure ARG were gifted it and I’m English! You need some luck to win a major tournament but they were also the best team overall. The handball was legitimately a subjective issue that could have been given either way but the laws of the game certainly don’t call for a mandatory yellow in that particular situation.

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpaceylol, bro, read my other comments and I want you to disprove me

@caribehzinho 3 ай бұрын

hahahaha cry forever Ronaldo fan

@jamieturtle Жыл бұрын

Messi should’ve gotten the yellow card

@redharlock9237 Жыл бұрын

Parades getting away without getting Red card proves argentina was helped

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

If you’re saying a bad referee performance overall in that game is ‘helped’ then I guess you’re right.

@maryreilly5102 Жыл бұрын

Red card should have gone to Van Dijk too for pushing Paredes to the ground then... or is that good sportsmanship?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Van Dijk chest bump is not a RC in the laws of the game. YC was correct.

@maryreilly5102 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Argentina vs Chile 2019, Copa America 3rd place match. Both Messi and Medel were given red cards, to Medel because he chest bumped Messi and to Messi because he "sort" of pushed him while he ran, but nothing more. Examples of red cards given for this kind of behavior.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

A referee can always justify a red for behavior that is potentially deemed violent conduct but a chest bump would generally not be considered VC based on the laws of the game and guidance. Raised hands or contact with the face is different.

@jonathanjrgensen6774 10 ай бұрын

It's tough for the referee to give that double yellow card to Paredes. I think it would have been the correct decision, but it was a very pressured situation. And Messis handball is pretty close to a yellow for me as well, just cause of how intentional it was. I know it wasnt in a dangerous situation, but it seemed like it should have been a "bad manners" yellow card

@PaulSpacey 9 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s a fair take on the situations. Both borderline and ultimately down to referee discretion at the time. Easy for us to call it watching replays.

@Solo.Gr8 Жыл бұрын

From your videos I think you are pro argentine

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I’m English. Respectfully, I’m not likely to be pro Argentine 😆

@Aledjdjsk 2 ай бұрын

Salt penaldog

@grasi5846 9 ай бұрын

Messi was booked already and should have been send off.

@dahmanou97 10 ай бұрын

Penalty for Argentina

@robertoschafer549 9 ай бұрын

Para tu madre

@caribehzinho 3 ай бұрын

Aeroport for Portugal

@dahmanou97 3 ай бұрын

@@caribehzinho what???

@hyogapastero9405 10 ай бұрын

UNO DE LOS PARTIDOS MAS VICIADOS Y CORRUPTOS EN LA HISTORIA DEL FUTBOL. LA FIFA HIZO TODO A SU ALCANCE PARA PERJUDICAR AL NOBLE PAISES BAJOS

@PaulSpacey 10 ай бұрын

Referee was poor that’s for sure

@robertoschafer549 9 ай бұрын

Noble? 😂😂😂😂😂

@hyogapastero9405 8 ай бұрын

@@robertoschafer549 FUERON VICTIMAS DE UN ROBO ESCANDALOSO

@stefloelysium6703 9 ай бұрын

The world cup was scripted , and so are most matches in football these days, believe it or not, fixed matches are everywhere around the globe. Big time marketers have influenced the beautiful game of football... Poor decisions by refs , VAR disallowing goals and later come around and apologise ... Damn football is almost done

@PaulSpacey 9 ай бұрын

Corruption and match fixing? Yes, it goes on. For the World Cup? No. France could easily have won it in the last few seconds.

@alhassanemam.2487 8 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpaceydw about them they still crying and can't accept defeat and their idol got benched whole wc imagine still arguing about the wc after nearly one year has passed that's how pressured they are and if they're talking about how many penalties they recieved they forgot that portugal in 1966 had 4 pens and scored 4 pens and same with netherlands in 1978 but they lost.

@josefoof1175 3 ай бұрын

@@alhassanemam.2487no one is talking about ronaldo, your corrupt country, Qatar gifted it for pessi