Argentina vs France Ref & VAR Decisions PART 2

Argentina vs France Ref & VAR Decisions PART 2 | Explained

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This is Part 2. The first video is here: • Argentina vs France Re... .
Subs on the field video here: • Can A Goal Be Disallow...
Upamecano header, clear video explanation at 1:14 of this video link: • World Cup Referee & VA...
Close up of Coman challenge on Messi: • Shorts
This video addresses some of the important issues not mentioned in my last video of France vs Argentina in the World Cup Final, including subs on the field, potential handball by Upamecano, Otamendi’s failure to get a red card, Coman’s challenge on Messi and both Thuram and Di Maria’s penalty incidents in more detail.
As always, if you're looking for a clear explanation with references to the Laws of the Game, I've got you covered.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:16 Upamecano Handball?
0:33 Coman Foul Messi?
0:48 Substitutes On Field?
1:08 Otamendi Red Card?
1:34 Dembele Foul On Di Maria?
2:53 Fernandez Foul On Thuram?
3:32 Thoughts & Questions
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Este video aborda algunos de los temas importantes que no se mencionaron en mi último video de Francia vs Argentina en la final de la Copa del Mundo, incluidas las sustituciones en el campo, la mano potencial de Upamecano, el fracaso de Otamendi para recibir una tarjeta roja, el desafío de Coman sobre Messi y Thuram. y los incidentes de penalización de Di María con más detalle.
Cette vidéo aborde certains des problèmes importants non mentionnés dans ma dernière vidéo de la France contre l'Argentine lors de la finale de la Coupe du monde, y compris les remplaçants sur le terrain, le handball potentiel d'Upamecano, l'échec d'Otamendi à obtenir un carton rouge, le défi de Coman sur Messi et les deux Thuram et les incidents de pénalité de Di Maria plus en détail.

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@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

This is part 2. If you haven't yet seen part 1, here is the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9pzqKp03Niveqs.html Thoughts and questions on incidents in this video? Let me know!

@kloppskalli Жыл бұрын

very nice! but i miss a couple of situations e.g. there was an off side call against France and the ARG player fouls the FRA player brutally with his studs first. Isnt it a yellow card? shouldn´t matter if play was interupted. Also I believe an ARG player held or held Mbappe just seconds before ARG scored their second goal with a counter attack. Last not least the ARG goalie, who was cautioned already, threw the ball away during the penaltie shoot out when the FRA player was ready to take his penalty, thats another yellow card! or not?

@psycoman666 Жыл бұрын

@@kloppskalli la tarjeta amarilla se la pusieron en el cuarto penal de Francia... cuando tiró la pelota lejos fue en el tercero

@nescobaj18 Жыл бұрын

What do you think of the fact that the daily l'Equipe awarded this referee a mere 2/10 rating for refereeing the World Cup final? Because of them, many pissed off French fans started insulting this referee and accusing him of being corrupt.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

The rating is given by a French journalist working for l’equipe. I understand French people being pissed at the close calls but 2/10 as a rating? Can’t take that seriously.

@thomasclementz8149 Жыл бұрын

GAME WAS A SCRIPT PERFECTLY EXECUTED BY THE ACTORS! IT HAD TO GO TO THE PENALTIES TO BENEFIT GAMBLING MAFIAS! AND LLORIS MADE A GREAT JOB AT MAKING SURE NOT TO STOP A SINGLE PENALTY FROM ARGENTINA!

@all7inelt Жыл бұрын

People can't accept the fact Messi won everything in football. For people who hates him, this is like a slap to the face. Good job on the video. Covered both arguments.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

No idea why people hate Messi. I appreciate him, Ronaldo and every unbelievable player I’ve watched. A true football fan can appreciate and respect genius when they see it, although it’s hard with inherent bias, I get that!

@neesalelahee1120 Жыл бұрын

People accepted only penalDOG cursed fans didn’t accept and they can keep crying for lifetime

@captainfalconmain6576 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpaceyit just people being salty

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Mostly, yeah

@palacios185 Жыл бұрын

It's true man. Dude Ronaldo was only good in Madrid and barely won the uefa euro against france

@oliseuzochukwu4145 Жыл бұрын

Omoh! This referee is a Wizard. Officiating such high tempo game with little mistake. Kudos to him🙌

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

🧙‍♂️

@jaserinc. 11 ай бұрын

True, refs are really underrated and its a very hard job but only get recognized when a bad call happens

@_chaitanyajoshi 10 ай бұрын

It truly was one of the best refereeing performances in any World Cup final. Marciniak did a great job!

@lucasfootball637 Жыл бұрын

By the way, in France second goal there are also 7 french substitutes on the field when Mbappé scores. It was way worse than Argentina third goal. The ref got the call right though because they did not interfere with play.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Very true 👍

@muhammadakbarramadhan914 Жыл бұрын

Isn't that a last-minute chance? not mbappe's second goal?

@gabnrami Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadakbarramadhan914 they do that in both plays

@ericbourdeaux9908 Жыл бұрын

Very false 👎. Where did you see that, 7 french subtitute on the field when Mbappe scores ? Just in your imagination ?

@tigasaham1637 Жыл бұрын

The referee show it the picture in an interview. Read the news mate

@Ingavi Жыл бұрын

I thought the polish referee did a fine job in the final and you just confirmed it. thank you for your clear, knowledgeable and concise explanations.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes he did a very good job overall. Thanks 👍

@Wolfgang-li9bx Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey how are you literally advocating Otamendi not getting cautioned..the referee himself accepted he should've played the advantage and cautioned Acuna for a double foul. You even said player encroachment is allowed which is absolutely not true.

@SAADOFFICIAL436 Жыл бұрын

@@Wolfgang-li9bx It is allowed

@TfujStary976 Жыл бұрын

@@Wolfgang-li9bx cry some more pls

@Maza75 Жыл бұрын

@@TfujStary976 he’s right tho

@wntfan656 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate this unbiased, factual, and calm review with explanations of the rules. Well done.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@user-do7ig9wy9u Жыл бұрын

Three and a half minutes of excuses for the wrong decisions of the judge, who made verdicts in favor of Argentina.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Hardly excuses, I’m English! Not likely to intentionally support Argentina 😉

@youssefbendou8224 Жыл бұрын

Very clear and well explained. Thank you for these videos !

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@Maza75 Жыл бұрын

His calm tone is clearly fooling you lol

@adzenic Жыл бұрын

@@Maza75 but he is clearly right lol

@vahepetrosyan9707 Жыл бұрын

You've got new subscriber sir! I'm 21 and I have been a football fan since I was 6. But for the last 3-4 years I became obsessed with digging deeper into football's fundamentals as Tactical performances or rule knowledge. Keep up the good work! ✊🏻

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thank you Vahe! Keep digging; this is such an amazing sport but there is so much to learn for all of us 🙏

@peterquigley6554 Жыл бұрын

That referee was picked for the final for good reason. he did an amazing job. And there was absolutely no controversy whatsoever in the whole game. And that's the very reason why we had the best World Cup final I have ever witnessed. Could you imagine if we had the Spanish ref from the Argentina and Netherlands game. The final would have been a disaster.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Spot on Peter. I thought he got the major stuff right, although of course different perspectives and bias means that some people will have different opinions. If Señor Lahoz was in charge of the final it likely wouldn’t have been such a great spectacle 👀

@patryklentas319 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey you would have probably plenty of yellow and possible red cards

@Astaroth236 Жыл бұрын

If FIFA had choosed Lahoz.. there is a high chance that Argentina would put a reclaim or even refuse to play the match until that was solved

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

😁 they wouldn’t have wanted Lahoz that’s for sure

@erinblue4043 7 ай бұрын

He made a mistake on Coman for stopping his counter for no reason

@kleanthis3268 Жыл бұрын

My friend, here in Greece we all have masters in refereeing and I can applaud your knowledge. You're almost as good as we're in refereeing. P.S I'm not kidding, here in Greece every football match is a controversial one, so we (the fans and not only) we study and discuss all-day the football laws 😂

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I love this! It’s great to be educated on the game; I can imagine the controversy based on a small number of panathanaikos games I’ve seen 😎

@kleanthis3268 Жыл бұрын

You've also found the 2nd most controversial team bro you're amazing haha. Olympiakos and Panathinaikos are ruling here.

@ginobeneli447 Жыл бұрын

News for you Greco, Law 11, penalty rule, is part objective and part subjective. In most cases, if a questionable play is 50-50, ref will back the attacker. Instance, Law 11 is set up to favor the attacker and screw the defender. Afterall, people pay a lot of money to see goals!

@OpenVibesHub Жыл бұрын

I am also watching football since 2008, Argentina played false every game why?

@diegodiazsaura3285 Жыл бұрын

@@ginobeneli447 in my opinion a non-direct kick should be awarded in those cases

@jonsaltberry8167 Жыл бұрын

You should make a video explaining all the penalties in favor of Argentina. There's a lot of people discrediting Argentina's effort in this world cup and saying it was rigged for them so that Messi could lift the cup, but most forget this team was one of the few whose strategy in most games was trying to reach the small area. (Sorry if my english is a bit broken)

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

All of Argentina's penalties are included in different videos but that's a good suggestion, putting them all in one video.

@jerox1392 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Please do it if it isn't too much to ask

@ohhhhh6269 Жыл бұрын

That’s why they get fouled a lot. They’re one of the few teams who attack the box. Most others just pass it around all game.

@enriquetomasgergomez Жыл бұрын

FCE. I would be grateful if you make a revission of the min 62, when Mac Allister was pushed by Upamecano inside the area. It seems a clear fault, because it would be an illigal action. Upamacano had not the possibility, nor the intention to play the ball. His only one intention was to avoid that Mac Allister play the ball, and made it pushing and throwing Mac Allister to the ground.

@yehaw4396 Жыл бұрын

I think the only stupid penalties was the one against Poland and Croatia but they were up more than one on those games so it would not have really mattered.

@hchwhat Жыл бұрын

Short sweet and to the point. Keep up the good work. There are too many videos that have unnecessary fillers. This was perfect

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt; I cannot stand fillers and BS in videos! People want to see the answer to a problem or question immediately. No BS!

@Krish-vu7um Жыл бұрын

Quality content man. Subscribed!!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Cheers Krish!

@hassaankhan2422 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Hey Messi fan, there is only One true goat and it is Ronaldo!!

@hassaankhan2422 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Not your stupid Messi who cheated poor Netherlands!!!

@daru7159 Жыл бұрын

That was a masterclass referee. So underrated

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@julianperfetti3464 Жыл бұрын

Excellent breakdown. It´s easy for the winner to claim that the game was clean and well supervised, but I do feel that it was handled superbly given the fact that it was a world cup FINAL. To me the best thing was that despite the tension and nerves, the agression and hostility (if there was one) never got out of hand. It felt as though the ref had full control of the pitch. The sensation was completely different in Argentina vs Netherlands

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Agreed; very well put. For a huge game, it remained relatively calm and the ref was in control throughout. Thanks for the comment!

@eugeniorodriguez5377 Жыл бұрын

Perfectly well explained The arbiter did an outstanding work 🙌

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

agreed, he did a good job!

@murtazaakbarreborn Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this video. A lot of people need to see this video. They do not have knowledge of the game and are making assumptions based on their emotion.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It’s true. Emotion, inherent bias and perspective play a huge part. Even for me!

@shamimazad007 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for such elaborated video..learned alot from your two videos... Subbed to the channel.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Shamin!

@blmartin500 Жыл бұрын

This is a fantastic video. It explains everything with crystal clear reasoning. Highlighting the actual rules based on the official guidelines is what puts it over the top.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🤓

@jonatelokos5174 Жыл бұрын

Damn, straight up 100% correct on my books. Great video

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@MR_NOBODY61 Жыл бұрын

You earned a sub bro

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Aryan! Hope you enjoy the videos

@robcaseyire Жыл бұрын

You say the di Maria penalty is the most controversial moment of the game? It was a stone wall penalty, you can't trip a player from behind. French guy got absolutely skinned and them tripped di Maria when he was through on goal. Only controversy was that he wasn't red carded for it

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Controversial in that it was debatable. Di Maria makes the most of the contact but it is a foul IMO. Remember to be a red card it needs to deny and obvious scoring opportunity; that wasn’t the case here so no card required.

@VykintasGlodenis Жыл бұрын

Perfect explanations. Thank you!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@marvlarc Жыл бұрын

Nice video, thanks for all the explanations

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@xChaleur Жыл бұрын

The subs interference rule is very important because, you can see situations where the opponent will intentionally walk on the field in order to stop a dangerous play. If they don’t interfere with the play then they should keep going.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, that’s why refs use common sense on each situation (or they should do!)

@palashrawat401 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey it's not about common sense. The law is the law. Argentina players encroached the penalty box in Messi's penalty vs Netherlands too. The fact is referee failed to see it and apply the law and now you are making excuses for it.

@enquiem3051 Жыл бұрын

@@palashrawat401 🤣

@lahaine9114 Жыл бұрын

@@Maybe_Im_an_idiot_but how stupid are you? Now fangirls are denying football laws?

@thangskhs3685 Жыл бұрын

@@palashrawat401 Still in pain i see

@idontknowaname5598 Жыл бұрын

Could you do one about argentina vs netherlands, I don’t understand a lot of the cards given on both sides. Might be a lot of work tho.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes I’m going to do this game in next few days

@darektrojnar Жыл бұрын

Watch the game Barca vs Espanyol same ref 😂😂😂😂😂

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes señor Lahoz; referee that makes the game all about him 🤔

@GodofPlaylist Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your great explanation

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@1aninterpreter1 Жыл бұрын

I had a doubt on the last penalty because of the seemingly french hand, but you cleared it up. Very good, I can live with this.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment 👍

@toni_sushi7164 Жыл бұрын

great video theres a lot of bias against messi and argentina and ppl forget that there was a bunch of missed calls for them as well, if it was truly "rigged" as the haters say, there was PLENTY of opportunities for the refs to blow the whistle in favor of them but that didnt happen

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes overall the ref had a good game. Always arguments for calls either way from fans but in this game you’ve got to say he got most stuff right.

@joefredlin5018 Жыл бұрын

No there is not a lot of bias against it only Fey people are being biased even like half of ronaldo fans are not saying anything

@sentm7362 Жыл бұрын

@@joefredlin5018true its only pendu fans

@jeffreynova9229 Жыл бұрын

CAMPIONE ARGENTINA..OLE...OLE..

@_neXose Жыл бұрын

Great video. What about Alvarez diving and hitting Coman's knee? Please do one on CRO vs ARG.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I don’t remember the Alvarez incident. I’ll see if I can get a Cro vs Arg video up.

@lesviolonsdautomne Жыл бұрын

There's no need to analyse this. Marciniak recognized his mistake on that case.

@j.mehnmontokpa7154 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the clarity

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@rachidboucenna8484 Жыл бұрын

Very clear you are very good !

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@marvin7010 Жыл бұрын

Very good video. Thanks a lot for clarifying the decisions of this game. I'm argentinian and I can't bear people complaining about the referee when we won fair and square, so huge thanks to you man 👍

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! I’m English so not exactly a big fan of Argentina or France 😅 but the best two teams made the final and the best team won it 👏

@gabnrami Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Nice video, have you enjoyed the final? I feel that the dembele penalty is similar to the hernandez penalty eng vs feance, where he kicks mount from the back, but that penalty was more notorius there than the one on di maria… u were cheering for argentina or for france or u were just enjoying the final world cup?

@syedahmed1111 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey France wants World Cup final rematch as they claim the game wasn’t fair, how about France Vs England rematch? Then decide who goes to play final?

@PessiTheFraud Жыл бұрын

You people have always rigged world cups

@theshield1613 Жыл бұрын

This game was script

@rohitnegi4651 Жыл бұрын

Nice video.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@erickatencio6298 4 ай бұрын

El trabajo del central fue magnífico sin incongruencia alguna en todo el sentido de la palabra pito lo que se debía pitar y en cada jugada que lo ameritaba y se necesitaba por eso el partido nunca se salió de sus manos, esos solo se consigue pintando imparcialmente y pitando cada falta cometida para cada equipo en el momento que se da dicha falta sin dejar pasar jugadas que hacen perder el control del partido. EXITOS felicidades al árbitro y al que realizó este video muy conciso concreto directo y sobre todo explicativo.

@josearriola7799 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video !!!!!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jose!

@user-ym3ff1hh7b Жыл бұрын

It is a little bit tricky at 2:47 snapshot. But actually when u’re watching video, Messi did go for the ball BEFORE Martinez touched the ball. Of course, everyone would say Martinez must get the ball before Messi, all depends how strict that referee controls and gives exception

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s a subjective decision based on whether the ref and VAR believe he impacted or impeded the defender. I don’t think he did and the current guidance would support the view that this particular situation is not offside

@cyrillesaada802 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey The goal from Messi would have been refused. Ask Griezmann for his goal against Tunisia...

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Completely different situations. Watch the video again and maybe it will help you understand the differences.

@timnewcomb8987 Жыл бұрын

this was some of the best officiating in the World Cup in my opinion.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Agreed Tim

@PandaTV2768 Жыл бұрын

I Though First That Was Upamecano Handball Because I Was Looking From an Angle That Looks Like Upamecano Touched The Ball With His Hand. Every Angle Is Diffrent. Thank You For Explaning And Also Sharing These Referee Decision!😃

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes it definitely looked like handball initially so I understand people reacting how they did. However when watching closer, it’s clearly a header. Glad you found it helpful!

@sergiorodriguez9103 Жыл бұрын

Very good insight.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@gustavotellez9007 Жыл бұрын

If you can add other perspectives, I 💯 agree with you, but I think if you could add from different angles I could see something that may bring peace. Anyhow, I liked the video and you're explaining this really good 👍

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gustavo. Different angles can make it look slightly different I agree; I included as much as I could without making the video too long and repetitive.

@gustavotellez9007 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey after watching this, I looked for other opinions but many were either biased or not as complete. Making it longer or maybe "part two" could drag more visits... Anyway, this one is five stars 👍👍👍

@cervecero7874 Жыл бұрын

Please, can you talk about the penalty to Mc Calister at 62 min? Thank you

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Someone else mentioned this. I’m looking into it…

@nazgul45 Жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis 👏

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

thank you!

@Craving4travelling Жыл бұрын

Nice explanation 👏

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@BugWalk Жыл бұрын

Dembele's foul is at 2:03, what you have put in a circle as well. It is when Dembele catches the outside of Di Maria's left foot with his knee. Then Di Maria trips with his left foot on his own right heel. At 2:10 Di Maria is falling already and I think that touch does not matter any more. NOTE! You have made this more clear in the first video. I saw it as second though ;)

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the analysis 👏 yes, the touch of Dembele’s knee with Di Maria’s foot is what causes his imbalance. Prior to that his push/pull starts the whole process of the foul.

@yamkelatokwe3373 Жыл бұрын

Could you please explain Christian Romero's Back pass(with his knee) to the goal keeper ,? some people are complaining about that too..

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes, the law states only a “kick” is not allowed for a backpass. Romero used his thigh so it’s ok. Foot or shin is generally considered a kick.

@IsoXable Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpaceyYou should take over the VAR haha

@tm.8399 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey that's not what the law of the game states. Between that and Otamendi. You just showed you are a joke. The rule states you can't trick to make the bavkpass which he did

@harrygeorge5918 Жыл бұрын

Great job!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@captainfalconmain6576 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the explation

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@TheCyberGamerz Жыл бұрын

Di Maria’s penalty is not a penalty. If it’s so highly debatable, then it probably isn’t a penalty

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

It’s debatable for sure. Many decisions like this are because the ref makes a subjective decision based on his perspective and application of the laws. That’s why we all discuss so much!

@threedeafears Жыл бұрын

And about the DOGSO incident with otamaendi. You focus on the leg challenge but in fact he was pulling Muani for a good second or two before he fell down = red card. And that is even mentioned in the screenshot you showed from the Laws of the Game. any reason you focused only on the last frames but not the actual pulling?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes you are absolutely correct. If Otamendi only pulled Muani with zero leg contact afterwards, it would likely have been a red card. Because of the leg contact (where he can argue he was going for the ball and the ref agreed), then it becomes a yellow because of the penalty award and the way the laws and guidance stand on that situation.

@threedeafears Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey did he even get a yellow? 😑

@adzenic Жыл бұрын

@@threedeafears he didn't get a yellow . But he didn't a second yellow either . So it wouldn't matter anyway

@socmedmr2316 Жыл бұрын

VERY GOOD EXPLANATION 👍👍👍

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@DG-dt9wi Жыл бұрын

This is the best explanation so far. No room for interpretation, not even from the French who signed the petition to replay the final

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

thanks!

@VladimirBarriere Жыл бұрын

Agree with all your observations but still think that Di Maria penalty is 50-50 at best. Argentina gets almost 1 penalty per game. It's pretty clear why. The ref must have been warned and he made a big decision early in the game.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Interesting perspective. I agree that it’s a debatable call depending on your experience, inherent bias and perspective. I believe it was a foul but that’s my perspective based on my experience. I get it that others don’t feel the same and why would they? They have completely different experiences, inherent bias and perspective.

@masumreza1246 Жыл бұрын

In this world Cup most advanced technology was used,even they are putting technology inside the ball for the first time to cover all the angels,all the penalties to argentina was given as per proper football rules, you can check.Other than that European referees favouring a South American country, sounds pretty mess😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

😄

@flo2k932 Жыл бұрын

Mac Allister was fouled by upamecano in the box same way England got their second penalty against france. Montiel handball a few years ago wouldn't have been given and honestly even now it doesn't look like a penalty to me. The ball was going way over and montiel was in the air with his back turned, ball hit him in the elbow.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen the MacAllister one, I’ll take a look. Montiel handball is debatable but current guidance says it’s probably handball based on arm position. Harsh for sure.

@arianagrandefan934 Жыл бұрын

Montpellier was a clear penalty and handball. Yes he turned his back and dint mean it. But what he should have done is put his arm behind his back like other players or in front of his private area. That way he would never have handballed it. And it either was just gonna go over. Or maybe martinez would have saved it. But it doesn't matter as Argentina won the world cup bro

@stan.pchannel6556 Жыл бұрын

Well done 👏

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😁

@vipinkaimal Жыл бұрын

Perfect analysis

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@Satish_HK Жыл бұрын

Thank for the information. The referee was GOAT in the match..

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@lesviolonsdautomne Жыл бұрын

Stop overusing that GOAT expression please. This doesn't fit in your sentence.

@Micha-sv2pf Жыл бұрын

Nice

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@juninhopenabucanho4640 Жыл бұрын

Very clear and well explained 👍

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@islamicquote1130 Жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@kevinaxelrod1597 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Can you explain why a penalty was not given to Argentina at 63' for Upamecano colliding in the box with Mac Allister?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin. I’ll take a look at that incident but will need to go through full game as it doesn’t appear in highlights.

@aurickpereira5988 Жыл бұрын

It was a shoulder push right ?

@manabchetry9132 Жыл бұрын

@@aurickpereira5988 it was clear penalty for me

@zackq8865 Жыл бұрын

My guess is because argentina were already leading 2-0 with one of those goals being a penalty so it would look bad on part of the referee handing out penalties all over the place for argentina. It will look like the ref is siding with only one country. In that case I think the ref would only give the penalty if it was 100% a blatant foul that prevented a clear goal scoring chance and not just incidental contact.

@mirzabarucic2073 Жыл бұрын

@@aurickpereira5988 Shoulder vs. shoulder yes, but when Player 1 uses his shoulder to push Player 2 in the back, it's foul.

@ml1916 Жыл бұрын

I think the leg contact is crucial in Dembele's potential foul. Seems it was the most clear penalty from all soft penalties Argentina had in this tournament.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

it's always debatable when it's close like this with minor contact and bias affects the views of everyone, including me! I believe it was a penalty though based on the conditions.

@mithunchakraborty2517 Жыл бұрын

It was pure penalty. Dembele pulled d-maria's foot behind and didn't let it land on the field properly.

@sebastienbearez9547 Жыл бұрын

The dive starts before the leg was touch. There is the debate. Di Maria is a forward and got what he aimed, congrats to him

@arnavverma5781 Жыл бұрын

@@sebastienbearez9547 he was pulled as well

@thefaithforall2430 Жыл бұрын

I love this review.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@GherdanSports Жыл бұрын

Exceptionally clear unbiased analysis

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ve been accused of biased analysis 😆

@Maza75 Жыл бұрын

Unbiased 😂

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

@@Maza75 my biggest hater, thanks for the comments brother! I appreciate you despite your lack of knowledge 🙂

@nutcracke16 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos, did you also notice the advantage play being denied against france around min 89? My friend who is a france fan is killing me because of that. He thinks this game was rigged lol

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

The ref could have let play continue. If they stop the game to give a yellow card, they cannot allow advantage so they have to make a decision of either giving a yellow or allowing play to continue if a goal is likely/possible.

@CLEMENTCERVETTI Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey he gave a yellow, but then the same player (or maybe another one) prevented the free kick, so it should be a second yellow because the counter could have continued

@AlexGreat87 Жыл бұрын

tell your friend that France got 7 subs because of concussion protocols; if the game was rigged, I clearly see a tendency for the French, and not the Argentinian side (though to be 100%, the referee was right)

@amblueblue49596 Жыл бұрын

The game was rigged

@supremisis. Жыл бұрын

@@amblueblue49596😂😂😂

@jaishreekrishna6522 Жыл бұрын

Brother, We all saw that Referee was not Fair with Argentina Players on the Field.....France was given added advantages But It was God"s wish and the Love of Messi( The GOAT) , God listened to all the millions of People and there we Lift the World Cup. Thank you God for hearing us. It was an Amazing Game.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

🙏

@ml1916 Жыл бұрын

Are you crazy? Argentina got help from referees in every single game.

@jaishreekrishna6522 Жыл бұрын

@@ml1916 The Referee Syzmon Marciniak is a Polish Referee. He supported his European Team France. European countries never want South American Domination. Argentina Players might have complained about France Handball but the very Next sec it was a Handball from Argentina as well which was more Vibrant to the eyes of the Referee and the Benefit of Doubt was given as an Advantage to France. But by God"s grace and Fair Play by Argentina, we were rewarded the World Cup. Messi at 35 outran the France Players in their 20s....Thank you God for this Blessing in the form of MESSI ( THE GOAT)

@ebonillusions Жыл бұрын

Are you actually that deluded?

@CLEMENTCERVETTI Жыл бұрын

@@jaishreekrishna6522 Fair play by ARGENTINA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 De Paul and Paredes are known for their fair play 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Argentina is clearly the less fair play team in the world what are you talking about ?

@muhammadasifnoor4395 Жыл бұрын

great job

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@porpigliaclarke4286 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for setting thing straight and even though a lot of ppl still having this conversation they can’t take our 🏆

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

nobody can take your trophy now! :-)

@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying this. I got into a discussion about that 'subs entering the pitch' thing. I replied that this rule was obviously made to prevent potential interference with a play, not being emotional and trying to celebrate!! Lol.😅😅😅 I also think the Dembele is one of a rare case though. Ref will certainly have to rake his brain on this one. On the other hand, you can still get a foul LEGALLY since attempting to foul could be penalized, and Dembele is certainly trying to trip Di Maria with his unnatural leg position, but on the other hand, if you use common sense, it's probably safe not to be given it as well...Maybe it's really hard becoming a football ref, you would get flamed no matter what your decisions are.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Glad the rule clarification helped with your discussion! And yes, the Dembele foul is debatable and it depends on your perspective, inherent bias, past experience and opinion. It’s not a clear yes or no. I happen to think it’s a foul but I understand why others don’t 😀

@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Yes, look, im a Messi fan, but if i were the ref, i'd probably not going to give the pen to discourage diving in the box.

@togrul3954 Жыл бұрын

@@yoshuareynaldo2295 Right, it is the final of the world cup, penalties should not be given left and right for any small contact, only for obvious ones

@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын

@@togrul3954 That's stupid. All matches are the same and should be refereed accordingly. It's called consistency.

@togrul3954 Жыл бұрын

@@yoshuareynaldo2295 World Cup final being the most prestigious match in football referees should try their absolute best to not make game deciding decision very easily. You have to be extra careful or then what is the point of that match then. The first team who is lucky to get a slight touch will get a penalty and boom game is finished. World cup final should not depend mostly on luck. Luck should be minor part of it

@annamhagama8674 Жыл бұрын

You should be a Var referee, good 👍 and well explained 👏

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Anna! I coach more now but was a ref for a long time (and a player before that)

@EL-zs3ki Жыл бұрын

Nice video 👍

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@mmeehan1 Жыл бұрын

great job...

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike!

@jeremyfaker9249 Жыл бұрын

What about the foul Fernando committed against Coman just outside the box towards the end of the game? The ref played advantage but they never went back and showed the replay if it was inside the box or not?

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I don’t remember that one; if it was a potential penalty, VAR would 100% have checked it but they don’t show it unless it’s a full review when they believe the decision should be changed

@cpowerca Жыл бұрын

I think there is contact with Thuram's left foot the sneaker actually got knocked back.. no better angle for this though.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Happy to be proved wrong if someone can send me a better angle. No touch in the video I’ve watched multiple times on replay.

@ephraimbalenie-nyengera128 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

👍

@mulbahpnurse3468 7 ай бұрын

Look these analysis are so superb , thanks so much, I appreciate you alot for this one. Many critics needs to be schooled by you including some football journalist

@PaulSpacey 7 ай бұрын

I appreciate that, thanks! Glad you found the videos helpful.

@blessonphilip5938 Жыл бұрын

Great video. That sums up. The real winner is the referees & VAR team. Well done👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes, refs deserve credit!

@muazzamshaikh2049 Жыл бұрын

I felt that there were many challenges by France against Argentina which the referee was simply ignoring.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

it went both ways

@bahanasiregar366 Жыл бұрын

Wow, that make everything so clear, thankyouvery much!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Glad it is helpful!

@Monnn_007 Жыл бұрын

As an Argentinian, I gotta say I love this video xD! 🤣 I really liked this video because it explained every scenario detail by detail, without missing anything (excepting for Upamecano's hand touch, since it was proven it was not a hand touch so there's nothing to debate). I'd like to know in which video you explain Scszesny's penalty over Messi, I'm sure myself it wasn't called correctly but anyways I'm interested in watching your explanation!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Scszesny’s penalty is in the video which shows all VAR decisions from the World Cup.

@martinrieger9829 Жыл бұрын

Good video.. can you please explain why a European ref was awarded the job, if an Ecuadorian or a Uruguayan ref was awarded everyone would be going crazy.. I am sure there are many refs from Asia or Africa that would do an amazing job in the finals

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Hard to say how they choose the ref but likely Marciniak was the best option. Obviously they couldn’t have a South American referee in charge of this game. He did a good job

@piotrj333 Жыл бұрын

Collina picked him, but it is right call. They couldn't pick french related or south american related referee (obviously) they needed least personal bias (Poland lost matches both to Argentina and French so there is no personal interest to help anyone) and they needed someone intimidating (to avoid game going out of control like Argentina vs Netherlands). Marcinak kinda fits all criteria and he already was well recognized referee.

@cosmicpeach7080 Жыл бұрын

As a French person, I think Poland and France are culturally so far from each other 🤷🏻 so doesn't seem like a problem to me. Uruguay is just next to Argentina though. If it were a Belgian referee, here I could see a problem, but "Europe" is very big

@warningchimes24 Жыл бұрын

@@cosmicpeach7080 South America is big too if you wanna use that as an argument, main problem is FIFA is biased towards europe, and that's a fact. They could've easily chosen a NA/Asian/African ref but didn't.

@cosmicpeach7080 Жыл бұрын

@@warningchimes24 then it's stupid and ignorant from FIFA because "Europe" is so big lol

@johnpaolosimangan9033 Жыл бұрын

Only france fans will say that this video was also rigged 💀

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

🤣

@alexandresarda1380 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey I'm a french fan and I think that's the best video I've watched about this final. I only wonder if there was foul on M'Bappé just before the second goal of Argentina. For me, it seems that the defenser doesn't play the ball and hits M'Bappé but it's difficult to find good videos...

@mainakdey7801 Жыл бұрын

Best video so far..

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@lesviolonsdautomne Жыл бұрын

Such videos are useful, since nowadays, fans easily contest the decisions of the referees when they contradict their wished There's still a situation from this final that I would like to be reviewed: it's Argentina second goal. More specifically, the way they get the ball from France. I think there was a foul on Mbappe (obstruction). It resulted in a counter attack from Argentina that ended with a goal by DiMaria.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thanks; I think they are useful for that exact reason. Hopefully this helps some fans to at least see things from a referees perspective. I’m glad you made that point about Mbappé; I actually thought he was impeded also. The defender made no attempt to play the ball and blocked him off. Because Mbappé didn’t go down and it seemed no French players protested, it made it easier for the ref to ignore the issue. Mbappé may not have got to the ball before the next defender and perhaps the ref considered that; it was a debatable decision anyway.

@enriquetomasgergomez Жыл бұрын

I que opinais de la jugada min. 62, en la que Upamecano empuja por la espalda a Mac Allister, cuando no tenia, ni posibilidad, ni intencion de jugar el balon, su unica intencion era evitar que Mac Allister tocara el balon. Es una falta ilicita dentro del area, para ser licita tendria que haber sido con el hombro, contra el hombro de Mac Allister y tendria que haber tenido posibilidad e intencion de acceder al balon. Falta ilicita por empujon dentro del area, por lo tanto sancionable con penal. Marciniak estaba a 4 metros, no consulto al VAR, ni el VAR le dijo nada a el. ???

@CammoNisse Жыл бұрын

I would agree! I think the refs did a phenomenal job this game!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Definitely a strong performance overall

@enriquetomasgergomez Жыл бұрын

CammoNisse. I would be gratefull if you make a revission of the min62 of the match, Upamecamo fault against Mac Allister.

@tm114paul Жыл бұрын

That's good and make sense. The ref in final match is precise.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Yes, he had a good game

@saujanyashrestha10 Жыл бұрын

You deserve my susbcription bro Love from Nepal🇳🇵

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👍

@alexgancear2771 Жыл бұрын

There only one question i want to ask, if Otamendi did not receive a red because he tried to go for the ball, why he didn't even recive a yellow for making a foul as the last player standing.

@Maza75 Жыл бұрын

He won’t reply

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

He should probably have received a yellow for the challenge but it’s not a guarantee; you don’t have to get a card if you foul in that situation.

@jayshahhetalkumar7507 Жыл бұрын

Nice Video and great breakdown of all controversies it seems like you are a referee yourself!! And that referee is in another dimension if he observed all this correctly in the match.

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I have a relatively unique perspective having played at a good level, officiated professional teams and also coached for many years. Thanks for the comment. Refs have a tough job but sometimes they also make mistakes; they should admit it more often, players respect that IMO. At the same time, most players and fans don’t understand the laws of the game so many arguments come from a simple lack of understanding.

@jayshahhetalkumar7507 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey Whoa you played and you were a coach too?? And yes I agree with what you say , can't say much about players but fans can get triggered at a drop of hat for any decision they think was not fair. Referees have to think of so many laws simultaneously its hard to not make mistakes. I will read all the laws properly bcoz I was one of the people who thought some of the decisions that you proved to be correct were unfair. Thanks for your hard work I really appreciate this!

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

I played in England before I moved to the US in my thirties; I coach mostly nowadays but ref occasionally. Being a ref and making those split second decisions is difficult; however some refs don’t help themselves with their attitude. The best referees are those who interact with players and communicate well (and admit when they mess up); players respect and appreciate it. The laws of the game can sometimes be complex and I still get stuff wrong; I’ve learned a lot during this World Cup by really studying some of the lesser known laws and guidance. I completely understand fans getting angry but a quick check of the laws would often mean them realizing it’s not the ref who is wrong 😉

@Tkokat 6 ай бұрын

Funny thing is that most people arguing against Argentina are Ronaldo fans, Real Madrid fans, or Mexicans. For the most part, the french accepted the results.

@PaulSpacey 5 ай бұрын

The best team ended up winning the WC. I was disappointed as an English fan but we didn’t deserve to win it, that’s the way the game goes.

@AniMatrix0101 Жыл бұрын

Great call by the ref on the last one. He was so sure it was simulation while I had to watch it in slow mo to confirm

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Me too; in real-time I would have said penalty.

@PeaceForBacons Жыл бұрын

Di Maria initiates the contact. His left leg goes left out of a normal running path to go find Dembele’s leg - finds it as intended - fall down - it’s a dive not a penalty. Wrong decision in the final of a world cup for a penalty call on the opening goal - game changer

@PeaceForBacons Жыл бұрын

This video shows how Di Maria moves his leg to the left with the intent of finding Dembele’s leg: kzfaq.infoModBRNKaGik

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

He was pushed/pulled prior to any leg contact. Debatable foul and our perspectives and experience are different so it’s normal to not agree

@PeaceForBacons Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSpacey would not bother me as much if Argentina had not had so many soft penalties awarded in this world cup. The largest number of penalties any team received since 1966.

@marius4iasi Жыл бұрын

That's correct. I think even the Argentinians would not have raised this if the decision was to not award the penalty. It's such a nothing burger, terrible decision. Great match from both teams but it's insulting to the game to claim that penalty was fair.

@dorian763 Жыл бұрын

blind…

@da_figaro8723 Жыл бұрын

Never Seen So much going for ARGENTINA IN EVERY MATCH THEY PLAYED IN WC2022

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

They had some luck, yes. Conspiracy between refs? Probably not 😉

@enriquetomasgergomez Жыл бұрын

If you see min. 62 Upamecano fault to Mac Allister inside penal area, perhaps you start to think that the help to Argentina is not clear.

@julianzicchi8058 Жыл бұрын

About dimaria's penalty, it is like upamecano's header, it is a question of seeing it from behind, not from the sides. It was a strange penalty because not one clear action but several subtle actions that combined with the speed at which they were going made him stumble to form the penalty (the slight push of the hand, the rubbing of the feet, the small nail).

@PaulSpacey Жыл бұрын

Spot on. Great analysis. 👏

@imtiyazyameen2257 10 ай бұрын

I know I’m 7 months late but: another thing about the Upamecano handball incident. Is that even if it was a handball the Argentina players would’ve saw it and claim a handball.

@PaulSpacey 10 ай бұрын

Lol but it wasn’t handball so all is good 😁

@imtiyazyameen2257 10 ай бұрын

@@PaulSpacey yea, I mostly referring to be people who are still claiming a handball. Probably should’ve clarified that.