Eddie Hall disagrees, but what does he know right

@@Northern85Star he always gets into proper position after he sits back so he doesn't really "sit back"

@@daniroadto900lbsdeadlift4 ... which is the point of sitting back. So therefore we critique someones conventional form by comparing it to sumo. Smart men

@@Northern85Star ye but he doesn’t do that.He tells you to do that but he himself doesn’t do it that way. There’s a name for this I can remember off the top of my head,where you show/describe a technique,but when you actually go to do it you do it a different way.

Sit back but not too much...

American Normal Guy

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fax he rly does look like bateman

So glad this meme has lived on

I just fucking watched da movie😭❗️

The hip placement is more or less the same across sumo and conventional. I think you already know that

It only causes confusion if you are an idiot. The deadlift style doesn't change the fact it is a hip hinge movement.

I’m a noob and I have no clue what any of this means. I do mine like the C4 cellucor or whatever guy said. Why is this wrong? I have no idea.

@@fabiangonzalez-cortes8894 if your hips are so low that it looks like you are sitting then you are most likely not engaging the right muscles. You need to have a lot of tension by pushing your hips back further and really engaging your hamstrings. If you are untrained/new to lifting, this can feel very uncomfortable and almost like your hamstring is too tight. But over time, like every exercise, it becomes easier and the muscle gets stronger and more accustomed to it. Check out a deadlift guide from someone like Allan Thrall or Omarisuf

It’s about the hips. Sumo or conventional format doesn’t matter because your hips are still moving in the same fashion

Is better to avoid lower back pain

​@@botzaca0023 no

​@@botzaca0023 it would actually cause lower back pain

@@KM-iv9xy nope

I saw the C4 shorts and immediately knew what was coming

chris duffin has tons of extremely in depth deadlift videos and is one of the most technically proficient and strong people on the planet check him out

@@purplejerry1 Will do, thanks for the recommendation!

So is eric bugenhagen. He teaches jujimufu in juji's deadlift video with him

@@purplejerry1 it's a wedge goddamit lol

Starting Strength - Edition 3. Has a whole chapter on the deadlift and form considerations with the biomechanics etc. well worth the money!

I really don't see the problem in squatting the deadlift up. More better for your back. The guy in the video doesn't state why the form is bad, but that you will lift less.

@@joys8634 I do think that form is a bit incorrect but that's not the point If he thinks it's not a good form, then he should make a deadlift tutorial, put some good effort in his stuff. If he's worried that other people may adopt what the other guy is teaching, then he should do videos giving cues that cover those issues someone else may be lacking. Is all the same, people are gonna watch the video anyway. This trend of going around trashing other people's videos putting themselves above the rest is so petty, not surprising at all though

@@Maxi_Jano but the OP does lots of videos showing tutorial. His entire channel is that.

@@AnthonyMazzarella no he doesn't, and you know it

@@Maxi_Jano yes he does and you know it.

Makes it hard for novices to filter information too

There’s nothing wrong with pulling sumo, btw I pull conventional because that’s what’s easier for my body

"The skinny powerlifter" that deadlifts more than you and the goof in the video, combined probably, conventional or sumo.

He also pulls 7 plates conventional lol. So maybe listen to him.

Go to squat university, they have it right, neither of these do it correctly

@@n7pako367 squat university lolol

Early on I got that squat advice from an incredibly jacked trainer in the gym (obviously I'm gonna take his advice, the guy is huge and squatting like 500 lbs right?). Within weeks I'd hurt my hips so badly that I couldn't squat for over a month. People have different anthropometry, there's no one way to squat, and if you're not ACTUALLY qualified to give advice on a subject maybe don't?

squatting with my feet at an angle has been a game changer for me.

Yeah that's just use the hack Squat now. Literally must have gone to a few personal trainers to get Squat form right but always hurt my lower back. Doing hacks has really helped keep pressure on the legs and not the back

@@George-nv1ri I feel it/hurt my knees when squatting. I only “hurt”(not really hurting my back but muscles getting tight in my lower right back) my back when deadlifting

@@doctordeath2551 yes I also had knee pain to begin with, you need yo strengthen legs up before squatting heavy and also get your hamstrings strong. Deadlifts imo will always put some pressure on your lower back, I've tried them many ways and never fully stops that feeling I your lower back. They are a great excersise but I can see deadlifting fucking my back up long term even with good form

If he truly follows AthleanX then he will also use fake plates. Then he can keep the same form no problem.

Not if those plates are fake. *taps forehead* 🧠

Comments like these are killing your gains!!

Athlean X does not deadlift like that.

@@austing7254 yes he does bud. His hips start too low because he thinks it's a stronger starting position for his back, but then under maximal loads his spine starts to flex and his hips shoot up mid lift.

Most people in this comment section are just salty they can’t get that low so easily. He has a very athletic deadlifting style

I was impressed by that. I don't know who the hell taught him to deadlift that way, but he does it well. It's impressive how he's able to make deadlift a quad focused lift

@@roderickclerk5904 except no good deadlifter has ever pulled like that. It's inefficient. I pull mid 800s and pulling with that form I'd probably max around 600. Defeats the purpose of the lift in the first place; to train the posterior chain. Only athletes you'll ever see pull like that are olympic weightlifters, but they're training for carry over to their specific competition lifts, not to jack up their posterior chain or build a bigger and stronger deadlift.

@@bloatmax4420 In football and baseball we do barbell lifts to help out general athleticism not finding the best leverages to lift the most weight. Our S/C coach doesn’t allow crazy arching because the bench should be an arm exercise primarily (we still had 12 guys benching 315). When we squat we squat upright, ATG which put more emphasis on the feet/calves for balance (still had 10 guys squatting 500 junior year). When we deadlift/powerclean we get down in a lower position putting more emphasis on the legs (still had 7 guys deadlifting 600 junior year). Could these have been higher, maybe. Could we have had more guys lifting higher weight, maybe. I would say in general our football and baseball teams were pretty strong even though our barbell training didn’t revolve around absolute numbers. We had very little injuries during the season and almost no non contact injuries. And we had very good athletes and a lot of players that played after highschool. So our strength program did its job

@@roderickclerk5904 'the bench should be an arm exercise' HAHAHAHAHAHHAH

Yea they clearly start off their lifts in a squat to brace the weight, something I started doing to find my leverages, and then correctly pull using hinge form

Most of the strongman use deadlift suit. The suit will stretch more when you sit back.

Strongmen also do it cause they're superheavyweights and it's a good way to activate the lats when you can't fit between your legs.

There’s several elite lifters that do use the squat technique though. Eddie Coan used it, Eric Lillibridge used it as well, and Konstantin Konstantinovs to an extent as well. Leverages are really person dependent, so having a one size fits all approach doesn’t seem to be the best approach imo.

@@juvedoo99 Lol, they're not initiating the lift like the exaggerated position the guy in this video is suggesting, at all.

what is wrong with the form though. you sh33p haven't said anything

@@joys8634 take your meds sperg

@@joys8634 It doesn’t actually work. As soon as weights get heavy he won’t be able to get the bar off the floor in that starting position.

Oly-lifters don't pull from that position.

No, it is not.

Most people and trainers give damaging advice. Enjoy the car crash and realize It izzz what it izzz

@@the_ogre_lord5654 especially when you're built like the average "personal trainer"

You should have asked the instructor why he think it's a good idea to squat the weight so the hips shot up and creates two separate movements. I bet his ego would implode.

I guess if they just put on college videos like Alan Thrall's tutorials on how to dealift, and the catch phrase "DO NOT MOVE THE BARBELL"... the whole fitness industry would have less people doing shitty things at the gym like that

The first part of the video made me cringe. Also your sumo deadlift form is great. But shouldnt your knees locking out be last or at least at the same time when your tallest in the lift? I.e your back and knees locking out at the same time.

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Honestly, I prefer your videos without the music. I personally do not like the tik tok style videos and I think usually the music drowns out your voice and message.

I prefer it without the music. Feels less like TikTok, which is *always* a good thing.

Ay also what happened to you putting the weight up on the screen too?

I use to squat deadlift aswell. I stopped when I plateaued at 315. I believe the best deadlift form is by "barbell medicine" After I changed my form I hit 365.

I have the opposite experience. I do a pretty squatty deadlift because I get lower back pain when doing it with a bigger hip hinge.

He's right. Without strong hands you'll only be able to do mixed-grip which I find is unatural and lazy IMO.

@@regulus7754 I agree about the straps but lifting with a mixed grip is too easy and feels weird when going up for me. Over hand is the best way IMO just pure raw power.

And yeah strong hands is massively important in a deadlift

I would also recommend imaging you are pushing through the heels and driving your feet back given you are mostly using the posterior chain provided those mechanics

@@noahsibahi-jackson8757 agreed

@Matt Thor doesn't sit back and stay there. It's just a setup for him. He sits back, raises his hips up and then drives up with the bar. Eddie hall does the same. HUGE difference between their's and sadik's pull.

They do that because they’re so tall that’s why, you can’t expect to pull the same as a guy who’s 6’9”

Thor also squats his deadlifts pretty much

@@lmc5955 I mean haack also pulls that way I'd say it's more the way an even arm leg upper body ratio person pulls

@@sng3939 No, he doesn't. Watch his back angle when the bar actually starts moving upwards.

This comment honestly needs way more likes

@@AnthonyMazzarella lol agreed

Yup

No he didn't 😂

It’s cause back in the day people figured being in the gym everyday was a waste of time and wanted you to contribute in like blue collar work instead. Nowadays you can make a living being a gym rat online so the whole gym culture has changed drastically.

yep, my hips starting high too :)

Thing is, a lot of elite lifters use the sitting back cue. It’s not just KZfaq coaches. Not only do they recommend it, they actually use the technique as well.

@@juvedoo99 even for them the bar doesn't break the floor until their hips rise

Yeah but oly lifters don't train the deadlift as a competition movement. They use it to increase their clean strength so of course they're going to sit their hips in a position that mimics their clean

Weightlifters pull this way because they're training for the clean. It's a different exercise. Not efficient to deadlift that way.

They deadlift that way to keep tension on the legs to mimic a vastly more complex lift. Theres so much more to a clean than a deadlift and most of it isn’t helping them deadlift more weight, its helping them clean more weight. Name me one deadlifter that scoops, bends their arms and shrugs near lock out because its their strongest position

It’s not a deadlift

@@OMAR-vk9pi ??????

That’s common knowledge and you can only do it on the hex bar because of where the weight is distributed. Hex gives you more freedom of starting position, you’re standing in the middle of it so you can sit low and just stand straight up. Can be 70-30 legs back, 50-50 whatever you want. Conventional has the bar in front and so there’s a much smaller acceptable range

Nah, he just won't ever get good at deadlifting.

@@petersoar2886 and by doing one of the worst exercises on your back wrong for a decade you’re more than likely going to have disc problems. But either way leave it to a 22 year old influencer to teach us all how to lift

@@thegentlemansclubshow2277 why though? His core is braced and he's doing it controlled. He likely won't ever get strong enough at the deadlift to get hurt. Something tells he doesn't even deadlift anyway and just made up the technique on the spot. He's wrong, but he probably won't get hurt, lol. You and I are much more likely to get hurt doing it right and actually getting strong over a decade.

@@petersoar2886 my thoughts are that with him sitting out like that when he pulls up on the weight it’s applying too much pressure to the lower vertebrae that over many years would cause some bulging. Of course deadlifts cause issues done right anyway like you said. I’m no scientist though, I just pick up heavy shit and put it back down

Lol

He's really only explaining what way to pull is better for him and treating it as a one size fits all. His explanation isn't bad or even necessarily wrong, but it's not the best way for everybody

You feel it less in your back because you're not using your back. The guy in the first clip is "squatting the deadlift". Deadlifting is a hip hinge excercise and you're supposed to feel it in your back. You'll never be able to move as much weight by squatting the deadlift.

@@faintedmemo not everyone lifts to move a lot of weight. The guy from the clip is a bodybuilder not a powerlifter.

@@cimi93x clown

@@cimi93x you dont deadlift when bodybuilding thats not a good excuse. at most romanian deadlift is used by body builders but not deadlifts because there are better alternatives for hypertrophy that aren't as fatiguing.

Dont forget Sadic is a bodybuilder. Hes not looking for heavy hes looking for GOLD. If this style gives him results it works for him. The guy picking apart his lift is a powerlifter.

@@prstation1363 yeah but he is turning a pretty good hamstring, glute, and spinal erector movement into a shitty quad movement. If you wanna get some good quad work in go squat, lunge, or do leg extensions.

No they don't

@@heavyrain5949 Yes they do

@@hardassteel They set back to get into the pulling position, (hips up). Oly lifters don't pull while "sitting back", you got this one wrong bud.

Ya, but that’s a niche case of deadlifting, not really good general advice

@@mattvena226 and to add to this that’s not “deadlifting”. Just because the weight is on the ground doesn’t mean it’s a deadlift. The clean and jerk or snatch is a different lift than a deadlift.

@@vicenteochoa6498 I think you misunderstand, I'm not claiming cleans or snatches are deadlifting. I am pointing out that how weightlifters deadlift is typically done with low hips to train for cleans and snatches.

@@a.julian3770 It’s important to keep in mind that weightlifters also train the clean and snatch pulls w/ a extended spine which requires submaximal weights. This is not good pulling form for cleans or snatches either.

@@a.julian3770 I think I'm more appropriate term for that would be called a clean pull. I also noticed that his position was great for the first pull of a clean but I highly doubt that to he's teaching

Lower back? My g the squat ain't a lower back exercise. It works legs and hips. Lower back is a stabilizer.

@@3Q2HFNILQHF He meant the deadlift.

@@helphowdoinputusername3571 I meant deadlift also lol

@@3Q2HFNILQHF your back is contracted when you deadlift, making it stronger over time no? It works your lower back.

@@SolomonsProxy yes and that's quite different from it being a lower back exercise lol. Your lower back is contracted to do bicep curls (standing upright) but it's not a lower back exercise bud.

That would be a horredous clean pull, the dude trying to deadlift is just plain wrong

@@dennisnordlund902 Lol it is the perfect first pull in the clean. okay lol

​@@bakotako no, a clean pull you want to have your shoulders over the bar, keeping your back angle the same until you're past the knee. The knees want to almost straighten when the bar is at the knee. From that point you want to then begin to aggressively make your back angle vertical, while rebending your legs slightly (which is unconcious and happens on it's own with good technique), then forcefully extend the legs and hip the moment you contact the bar and shrug. This guy just squatted a deadlift

@@o-neil i know what you are saying but ive seen it both ways from oly lifters.

@@bakotako you got an example? I'd be curious to see. In some countries they do have different training methodologies

I have the same problem. I’m 6’5 with a big torso and not too long limbs. If you start with the hips lower you’ll be using leg drive more which makes it harder to get off the floor If you start with your hips higher you’ll have to either push your knees more forward or round the shoulders a little bit/lean forward more in order to reach the bar. You’ll be able to get it off the ground easier but lockout is harder. To top it off, I find both forms puts you at risk. The first one chance of sciatica flaring up and the second one chance of your lats getting sprained. That’s just me tho

That's the big issue with a lot of these guys on KZfaq, and using other people's content to create content. Neither of them are wrong, but neither explanation is a one size fits all. Everyone's anatomy is different and everyone will have to pull/ press at different angles. Most of what these guys post are opinion based and they try to treat its as fact for others to follow. Always try something different until you find what's most comfortable for you

There have been weirder proportioned lifters excel at deadlift, you can find a good enough position. Just film your self and try posting it on a subreddit if you're struggling.

Well the issue with with videos like this is that no two people deadlift the same. If you have soem crazy proportions you might need to sit down more. I find I get a lot more hamstring activation from sitting back a bit then starting the deadlift. Yes, I’m not as low as the first guy but I’m also not super high in my position either. Being too high with your hips also just turns it into a stiff leg deadlift with almost no leg involvement so that can be an equally damaging que.

@@frankytanky5076 what I've found that seems to be beneficial for a lot of people is moving your hips with the bar. So basically if the bar is going up your hips should be going up as well. And the best way to find the position is on the eccentric and just moving your hips down until it hits the floor finally.

But he’s right tho…

In olympic lifting you have to be slightly forward over the bar though, not back

There's nothing olympic lifting about this

@@Ultradude604 there is. Hips starting parallel

@@1234Daan4321 no on or behind the bar who thaught you that

@creatine addict True, it's concerning how many people jump on steroids before they even learn how to lift and they do pretty much everything in the gym wrong thinking they do everything right. I see all the time people who are as big as myself or slightly bigger and doing all kinds of crazy shit and I've been lifting natty for 11 years.

1) Starting with your butt (too) low means you will inevitably exert unnecessary energy getting yourself to the actually demanded hip height to break a sufficiently heavy bar off the floor and risk throwing yourself off position/balance in the process. 2) This has nothing to do with injury risk and you sure as shit won't reduce that risk by making your movements unnecessarily inefficient. 3) "As little pressure on your back as possible" is a strange goal while doing an exercise that clearly targets the back (and for good reason). Is sitting on a sofa a safer way to deadlift, too? It sure puts much less "pressure" on your back.

@@canererbay8842 As I explained in my original comment, doing a "clean deadlift" will not allow you to deadlift the maximum weight possible if that is your goal as a powerlifter. However, it does minimize the stress on your lumbar spine by virtue of lowering the moment on your back, which lowers the risk of injury. For most people, who are not competitive powerlifters, I think it makes sense to do "clean deadlifts" because conventional deadlifts are needlessly risky.

Exactly, he's teaching clean pull. It's a perfectly fine way of deadlifting. Just not for powerlifters.

@@youngKOkid1 You didn't explain anything. You just made uneducated assumptions and claims. 1) You don't need to be a competitive powerlifter to want to do an exercise efficiently and "maximum weight possible" is not an unworthy extreme. There are smart ways to reduce the absolute load on the bar for *load management* purposes and they include pauses, tempos, lack of belt/sleeves/wraps/whatnot etc. "Squatting your deadlift" is not one of them. 2) It does not shorten the moment arm on the spine. If anything, it lengthens it because you're sitting back and putting the load further away from you in the front. Anyway, a sufficiently heavy bar will make sure the hips are at a proper height and shoulders are over or just in front of the bar (if you don't want to scrape the shit out of your shins along the way) at the moment of lift-off whether you want it or not. This is apparent in weightlifters, too. Look closely and you'll see hips rising before the bar leaves the floor if they set up by sitting back. That set-up may be a good way for a given lifter for other reasons (cues, ritual etc). 3) You have no idea what you're talking about on injury risk. Deadlift is a perfectly safe exercise and powerlifting is a much safer sport than most other popular sports. It has nothing to do with the absolute length of the moment arm on the spine or the "pressure on the back".

@@Gilgamesh827 I highly doubt he even knows what a clean pull is. He's just teaching an inefficient deadlift and no, it's not a perfectly fine way of deadlifting, for powerlifters or anyone else (unless there's some unusual specific reason for a given person). Clean pull is a different exercise that requires the bar to be further in front than in a deadlift and it requires a different movement pattern for the knees among other things.

Me too!

You generally don't wanna deadlift this way unless ur a weightlifter improving ur cleans and snatches. General population powerlifter or not it should be a hip hinge movement not a squat movement.

The "wrong" part is the fact it puts far more pressure on your lower back while also removing your own leverage. Hips too low = harder to lift and more risk of injury

@@kiraPh1234k maybe you should stop ego lifting and you won’t mess up your back. I deadlift the same as the influencer guy. Low hips, lot of ankle flexion and calf activation, upright back, and ive never hurt myself even when doing 525 lb and I barely train deadlift (it’s not that great for athletics solely on its own anyway)

@@roderickclerk5904 you’re one of the few smart guys in this comments section

Eddie Hall has a very rare body structure tho than 99,99% of people, very tall, very wide hips and very heavy. Makes sense for him do use that cue but for a normal guy? I m not Sure about that...

Sitting on the deadlift is for giant 400lb strongest men in the world, not for average plebs.

@@johnnyp.601 But that's why there's ape index to worry about and to take into account, personally I have long arms, so I can basically "sit back", just depends on anatomy and your body

@@johnnyp.601 Eddie Hall isn’t tall in relation to his overall size - just shy of 6ft3

If you look at Eddie's lift and freeze frame when the bar actually starts moving you will notice his hips are way higher.

Right? I was thinking to myself “this is a good setup for a clean”

He literally did the 500 kilo with that form tho🤔

Telling people wrong advice so they don’t break his record maybe

@@harrysmith8090 no he did not use that form since his hips rise up into proper position Before the bar even leaves the ground

@@christianlopez2793 didn’t say that I said he sat

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That's terrible logic. And trust me I hate sumo deadlifts but I can guarantee you Matt is stronger in any kind of deadlift position than the guy in the clip.

@@austing7254 both train for completely different disciplines so of course Matt would be stronger . They’re probably around the same weigh class as well. So I’d hope a power lifter can out lift a bodybuilder of similar overall weight. But, I’d like to see Matt vs a power lifter who disagrees with his pov. That would make more sense.

No on everything

That’s what I’m saying lol

He's right.

His conventional was 675 despite not even training for it and is the national champ wtf are you on?

@@bobbyflaybobbyflay5065 he does sumo so I don't care

​@@Grumbledookvidyou deadlift 2 plates so I don't care

A deadlift and a clean pull are completely different movements, what he does isn't close to a clean pull. He's performing a deadlift, just with weird form.

A clean pull in weightlifting would have him lifting the bar past his waist line. Like in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z72lhsyqspPPnn0.html

The fact that you got 24 like proves why gym bro logic will never die

Nah bro, the Olympic weightlifters sit back down, but as the weight starts to move, their hips will also shoot upwards, unlike this guy who chooses to keep his hips low the entirety of the rep

Clean pull is deadlift plus pull deadlift is just deadlift or clean deadlift snatch deadlift

Yeah even the guy that made this video made a generalization. Also Olympic lifting are almost kissing the floor with their butts before the lift begins. Obviously if you’re hitching or it feels uncomfortable then it’s not the form for you

don’t copy strongmen. they are incredibly heavy and usually can’t deadlift with ‘proper’ form because their leverages get compromised by such heavy bodyweight

@@noah92930 pls look up adam bishop and oleksii novikov, both of them have nearly perfect deadlifts.

@@homelander98 Well that's not true. Starting too low in both snatch and c&j will cause the butt to shoot up first, which is an error. There are lifters (even elite ones) lifting like that, but in general that's not considered good form in weightlifting. Depending on leverages, the ideal starting position (if we suppose all else is set up properly) would be at or slightly above parallel.

Martins doesn’t actually begin lifting from that position, he’ll rock the bar into himself as part of his set up but if you watch closely when he begins lifting the bar he’s in a more forward position.

But this dude isn't even teaching you how to deadlift

Even with feet shoulder width apart it's still a 'hip hinge' movement not a squat movement. If hypertrophy is the goal then it's still hugely beneficial to the back and hams. Do a squat to hit quads!!

You don't teach beginners with incorrect form. He's teaching a squat with the bar in your hands. If a beginner listened to this, if he ever wanted to progress they would eventually have to relearn the movement.

Even though this dichotomy is off, why would you do a deadlift for hypertrophy unless you want to train your back? And why would you in that case want to minimize back involvement?

If you want to target your legs in a high rep hypertrophy kind of way there are better movement patterns for it than the deadlift or what Sadik is portraying here.

The way he is doing is taking out a lot of hamstring which is stupid because deadlifts are great for hams. Sure it makes it more of a quad exercise the way he's doing it but there are much better exercises for quads so it makes no sense.

@@Jeneric81 i do it the way sadik does it, it feels perfect for me, maybe it has something to do with the body's anatomy

@@RusyaidiDzulkifli You're not pulling a heavy weight in this way, sorry. Video yourself from the side and watch where your hips and shoulders are when the actual bar breaks the floor. There's no anatomy that will make you pull significant weight from the floor with his style.

more gains in his version. your muscles will hypertrophy with more time under tension.

@@joys8634 I think there’s better movements if you’re looking for hypertrophy. Deadlifts are taxing and cause a lot of centralized fatigue

Nothing is more beta than pulling sumo and doing it with a face diaper 🤣

It targets the wrong muscles.

@@malnutritionboy in your opinion

@@joys8634 it's a fact

If you want to do a quad-dominant deadlift you should use the trap bar. Doing this with a barbell is just suboptimal in every way.

This is absolutely not good conventional deadlift advice lmao. He’s teaching the mistake that tons of newbies make. If you sit back on deadlifts you will not be able to use any challenging and productive weight without your body throwing you off that position into the proper position you need to actually lift the weight. It’s simple physics. Even in a clean deadlift you wouldn’t start pushing from that sat back position, many weight lifters like to rock back this way to begin their rhythm but they never push out of it which is the key difference. You will need to come forward just enough to begin the push. Clean deadlifts are generally done under the capacity of a true conventional deadlift yes but even those aren’t as leg dominant as what he’s demonstrating because that’s not possible. Hinging is still a critical part of the clean and clean dead. And that’s irrelevant anyway because he’s no even demoing how to do a clean or clean accessory

@@SilverSlugs16 nah it’s fine,learning this style when your new is perfectly fine, you’ll learn to use legs and then gradually learn to hinge as your back get stronger. For newbies it’s not a big deal lol. It’s for newbies that’s the point, they have weak lower backs. As the back gets stronger then the hinge will be safer to do, key word safety. Weightlifters don’t learn deadlifts as newbies but have no problem doing clean deadlift, conventional deadlift, even snatch deadlift as they get stronger/experienced, they can adjust no problem. You act like it’s a hard adjustment lol, because it’s not. A perfect ex. is Clarence Kennedy, when he cleans his hips go low, but when he actually deadlifts his hips are higher. He may not be teaching the relevant style but this style will still get you strong enough for a real deadlift. Weightlifters are literal examples. So you’re absolutely wrong in the process of learning a deadlift, there isn’t just one path.