Absolutely ridiculous that not a single barbell movement ended up in S tier. Shows you how “science” has failed us
@spicybanana693 ай бұрын
GG champ
@spicybanana693 ай бұрын
@@will-ht3mcBarbell is good for overloading exercises. Not necessarily they need to be on S tier. I prefer barbell over cable but I have to admit that I can only pull half the weight on cable compared to what I can pull through barbell.
@nevik23 ай бұрын
LOVE this new format. Praying you do this for each muscle group
@eltonarthur12332 ай бұрын
Yes, please l. I would love to see one for arms, particularly biceps.
@ZrCorelx2 ай бұрын
if he does I'm subbing to the channel
@yunglumi6372 ай бұрын
Triceps so many so-so exercises out there
@wiccanwarrior9Ай бұрын
Why not pray for world peace muppet.
@davidalonsoillera2 ай бұрын
This format is the best I've seen across KZfaq fitness channels. It quickly sorts the workouts into ranks, showing us not just the top exercises but also the ones to avoid. It's a handy overview.
@seongmoon64833 ай бұрын
Excellent video! We need videos for every muscle group!
@sabertoothwallaby29373 ай бұрын
There already are. Hundreds.
@markyden3 ай бұрын
@@sabertoothwallaby2937 most r bs. plus this vid takes strech into consideration. so an updated tier list for muscle groups wd b great
@ignacioaraya54673 ай бұрын
Yessssss!!!🙏
@martinsskutans66463 ай бұрын
@@sabertoothwallaby2937Just what I wanted to comment- this has to be like at least 4th time Jeff posts same video with different title. I just can’t wrap my head around how people are not bored to death with content like this.
@bahandplays83733 ай бұрын
He did a top 10 ranking for chest And he did a video about all the muscle groups How to train them properly
@tibihobit92003 ай бұрын
bro, pull ups not being in S tier is uncomfortable
@skullkrusher-dx4kg3 ай бұрын
I mean the akward strength curve does have an effect on some people so it makes since.
@olegnovitski69873 ай бұрын
Putting lat pull downs higher than pull ups is blasphemy.
@ergonaut9403 ай бұрын
chin ups should be S
@vsauce66643 ай бұрын
@@skullkrusher-dx4kglol
@MaSolSC23 ай бұрын
They are also very weight dependent and not as easy to overload. If you're quite heavy or not fit you will need some sort of support. If you very light and/or strong you will require additional weights. And adding a belt with weights is not as easy as just adding weights to the stack. Also gripp strength can be a common issue in these excercises and depending on the setup I would assume thats easier to use straps with the lat pulldown.
@PratikSingla3 ай бұрын
On to week 5 and loving the program. This information is so valuable. Thanks Jeff!
@cameronj98903 ай бұрын
Good video! More of these please. Thanks for all the hard work you do man, I love your channel.
@VulcanicCloud3 ай бұрын
Please make videos like this for every muscle group, love how these are formatted. I feel like I'm cheering for my team scoring a point when I see an exercise I do be ranked high lol.
@El_payaso20063 ай бұрын
Ok greedy grinner
@imadeamistak49053 ай бұрын
only if you make a jerma noise tier list
@IronOathFitness3 ай бұрын
Haha I get you there!
@tylerriggs953 ай бұрын
Natural Hypertrophy has some good tier lists for each muscle group
Thanks Jeff you really blew out my back with this one
@shayneshayne3 ай бұрын
thats crazy
@joshuapollard58933 ай бұрын
@@shayneshayne😂😂😂😂
@bigwats12503 ай бұрын
Pause
@super28sisko3 ай бұрын
That's what she said...
@hiddeninplainsight13 ай бұрын
😂 all in good fun
@jovanjovicic17163 ай бұрын
Hopefully this will become a series because I think this is honestly as simple as it gets. All of us could use your knowledge and you presented it in the best way possible. I'm lacking some mass in my back and I'm really looking forward to putting this A tier and S tier exercises into my workouts. Thank you so much. Keep up the great work. Love from Serbia ❤
@DnyAln3 ай бұрын
Jovan if you follow these s tier movements I promise you you will make no gains. Jeff did not gain his mass with these movements he uses them now to perfect his physique. S tier are pull-ups bent over rows and deadlifts don't let him fool you into using these cable exercises I promise you you will not make any gains you need to lift big heavy compound movements to add size mass to your back especially if you're natural.
@SuckableWeiney3 ай бұрын
@@DnyAlnFellow Eric bugenhagen enthusiast
@marcjov81493 ай бұрын
dje si brateee...samo masa, definicija je za pičke😄
@krainex3 ай бұрын
Serbia je kosovo 🤗🤗🤗🤗😠
@conorconor86683 ай бұрын
There are his favourite, no the best. Pull ups are the best nr 1 and barbell growing nr 2 acording to scientist and tests.
@terrywilson14943 ай бұрын
Pencil back tier list, sticky Ricky bugenhagen for horse back
@ozziedood3 ай бұрын
Not putting Pendlay rows and Kroc rows in S tier has to be a crime.
@AS-bu9rw3 ай бұрын
@@ozziedood Bent over row>Pendlay row
@neil120112 ай бұрын
Horse C*ckin around some serious ass weights.
@beburs2 ай бұрын
Yes sir 😅
@huikyle3 ай бұрын
s-tier - wide grip pull downs - neutral grip pull downs - half-kneeling one-arm lat pulldown (cable) - meadows row (basically a one-armed laterally-placed landmine) - chest-supported row (alt., dumbbell helms rows where chest is braced against incline bench neutral grip) - cable row - wide-grip cable row a-tier - wide grip pull ups - neutral grip pull ups - one-arm dumbbell row - kroc row (loose technique version of one-arm dumbbell row) - modified, seated rope face-pull with one foot against machine (to negate balancing requirement of conventional face-pull) - cable lat pull-over (AKAcable lat prayers) (bend upper body on negative, drive elbows down) - dumbbell lat pullover
@Willburrrrr3 ай бұрын
You’re the man
@steffenpetersen21033 ай бұрын
Cant believe he ranked pulldowns higher than Pullups
@ryubengtx54193 ай бұрын
@@steffenpetersen2103That's because pull-ups are more physically and mentally exhausting than the pull downs. For hypertrophy this is very important, However I will always continue to prefer pull-ups and even more so if they are weighted.
@inclinebench3 ай бұрын
Seal rows should be in S-tier too, no cap
@yrnkevinsmithC-1373 ай бұрын
@@steffenpetersen2103pullups will always look cool
@MSordernature3 ай бұрын
Free standing T-bar row is my favourite exercise overall, not just for the back. While I feel that lying chest-supported rows cause too much of chest pressure due to the weight.
@clootscalhoun94813 ай бұрын
Agree with the chest pressure! Im not even strong, and it is still very uncomfortable for me.
@tann_man3 ай бұрын
parallel meadows row is my go to. Its like T-bar but with a huge single arm stretch
@jamieharpur17273 ай бұрын
Same with the pressure. Going heavy makes it hard for me to breathe, I’d rather go crazy with a barbell or T-bar row as well
@interwebslinger3 ай бұрын
Agreed on the chest pressure - not comfortable at all.
@nigmode40913 ай бұрын
Try adjusting the chest pad up or down along the sternum, I felt a lot of pressure if the pad was too low but adjusting it up made it more comfortable
@AquarianMan4 күн бұрын
s-tier - 3:38 wide grip pull downs - 3:59 neutral grip pull downs - 4:10 half-kneeling one-arm lat pulldown (cable) - 6:28 meadows row (basically a one-armed laterally-placed landmine) - 8:53 chest-supported row (alt., dumbbell helms rows where chest is braced against incline bench neutral grip) - 9:22 cable row - 9:37 wide-grip cable row a-tier - wide grip pull ups - neutral grip pull ups - one-arm dumbbell row - kroc row (loose technique version of one-arm dumbbell row) - modified, seated rope face-pull with one foot against machine (to negate balancing requirement of conventional face-pull) - cable lat pull-over (AKAcable lat prayers) (bend upper body on negative, drive elbows down) - dumbbell lat pullover
@RiversPPC3 ай бұрын
Yes please, these list videos are awesome!! Can you make one for shoulder and biceps?
@mikkilevin3 ай бұрын
I wonder why chin-ups are consistently getting underrated. You said that the worst thing about pull-ups is their tricky resistance curve, and chin-ups attempt to solve this issue by being significantly easier at the top than pull-ups, yet you put them in a lower tier. You could say that is because of a higher bicep activation, but in an older video you have stated that there is no statistically significant difference between pull-up and chin-up lat hypertrophy, meaning that bicep activation is actually just a bonus. Thoughts?
@ci65163 ай бұрын
Bro this is a stupid video for people who will never get big . Like Jesus Christ single arm kneel cable pull are better for mass than weighted chin ups ? Lmfao
@JohnDoe-id5ih3 ай бұрын
Chin-ups are mad underrated. They stretch the lats like crazy and offer bicep activation. The best thing is doing variations, narrow pull-ups, wide pull-ups and then chin-ups. Neutral is also good if you have access
@ankitg64542 ай бұрын
this is a shitty video which is only based on his gut feel. nothing scientific about this tier list
@simulatedstring902918 күн бұрын
But couldn't bicep activation also be a drawback because you'll be wearing out your biceps on a non bicep exercise? Many do back and biceps in the same day.
@jerry7163 ай бұрын
I love this video! Very informative and entertaining at the same time. Love the way you explain each one into more detail. Please make this for EACH body part. THANK YOU
@stacybraun75873 ай бұрын
Great educational video! Thanks Jeff!
@JustBrotherGuyRick3 ай бұрын
New follower for sure. Definitely would love to see this for every muscle group. This would create some great B to S tier routines for us gymrats throughout the year. Keep up the great content.
@erickllerenas77333 ай бұрын
Glad I’m subscribed, to get to see all the major muscles groups tier lists (hopefully). It’ll take a while, but it’ll be worth it. Thanks for the informative content as always, Jeff!
@jameslynnbudlong56583 ай бұрын
I've been doing rack pulls the last 4 months and love them. I try to do them as controlled as possible and not smash the weights on the rack. My back feels like it's going to explode after doing them. Maybe I'm crazy, but I like 'em. I worked up to a set of 10 reps with 180 kilos last week. For a 63 year old, that's not bad... No lower back pains whatsoever.
@gilbertboot5723 ай бұрын
Rack pulls are amazing for traps, but very bad for lats. Jeff doesn't specify in this video that he's only focusing on lats in this video, but that isn't the only back muscle.
@Shazok553 ай бұрын
@@gilbertboot572 he is not only talking about lats, face pulls are here and they are high
@gilbertboot5723 ай бұрын
@Shazok55 your right, but it's really strange for Jeff to praise face pulls for mid back and traps, even though there are much better options for traps. Then, completely disregard rack pulls despite their effectiveness for traps. He also doesn't include any other great traps movements like shrugs or farmers' walks.
@gilbertboot5723 ай бұрын
@Bramble20322 Having a shoulder day at the gym is lazy programming, but whatever. Regardless of that, the traps are a back muscle. I think it's person to person on whether people are going to train their traps, they are a hugely important muscle to train as a strongman athlete or to just generally have real life applicable strength and many bodybuilding channels talk about the importance of training traps directly (mainly naturals, because steroids affect traps disproportionately). So your blanket objective statement that deadlifts etc. are enough for traps is unfair. Also, deadlifts are good for traps as a byproduct, but I would never trust lateral raises or RDLs for traps growth. The traps are one of the strongest muscles in the body, lateral raises aren't going to do anything.
@wigletron28463 ай бұрын
@@gilbertboot572shrugs are a waste of time. Your traps get pounded by deadlifts, bent over rows, side and rear delt raises. Shrugs have too much fatigue for low reward.
@kramsay20113 ай бұрын
This was so helpful! I would love to see a video like this with each muscle group!
@tcgingy95223 ай бұрын
more videos like this, clear/concise and the tier list is just lovely at getting the point across!
@lucandro143 ай бұрын
Meadows row is my favorite back exercise by far but I wasn’t expecting it to be here. Love and respect to Jhon Meadows “Mountain dog” and may he rest in peace ❤
@heebsgames3 ай бұрын
Just tried it for the first time. Definitely gonna need wrist straps for it.
@MrTobypenguin73 ай бұрын
Jeff and John were great pals:(
@whattheduck693 ай бұрын
Massively appreciate the work that has gone into this. Perfectly written, perfectly subtle implementation of modern imagery tech. Have a spud 👊 from London my man. We all appreciate your work from all over the globe. On behalf of everyone watching, thank you Jeff 💪😄👍 💪😎👍
@williambalicao85153 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff. Love your content and how you’re able to condense the science studies and make it understandable to us viewers. Been a long time viewer for a while now and wanted to say that you’re an awesome influencer mate. I wanted to ask if your able a video about how to pose and sort of a posing routine. That would be greatly appreciated by me and I’m sure lots of other viewers. Love your content man. Keep up the hard work both on your videos and gym.
@stormlord1216 күн бұрын
Absolutely brilliant presentation and explanation. Really love the way you present everything. Thank you!
@josh_ken3 ай бұрын
Wait for Eric Bugenhagen to react to this 💀
@woodstiks3 ай бұрын
Deadlift not being S tier is pencil neck behavior
@m00nkiid3 ай бұрын
@bzyspecial Boogz is literally PhD in broscience
@malikthebrit3353 ай бұрын
it took you years to realize its keeping you small XD@bzyspecial
@bestwesterner3 ай бұрын
@bzyspeciallet me guess you never even drank a gallon of milk per day
@nicktheraper42073 ай бұрын
I just want him to react to Lou ferigno but it’s gonna be more science based bs 😂😂
@Eredhwen3 ай бұрын
Very informative, love the format and the straight to the point delivery
@Rickogg943 ай бұрын
Should do a video like this for every muscle group. Very informative 👌
@user-xd6ep4xv7e3 ай бұрын
I normally dislike “workout” movement videos, but Jeff you make it interesting and fun. You deserve all your success bro, thx 😊
@waderace40843 ай бұрын
As someone who trains at home, pullups and inverted rows are my go- to exercises for back. You can add weight to progress, yes, but trying them archer-style to progress to one-arm inverted rows or working towards front levers to progress to front lever rows is a way-a hard way- to progressively overload the inverted row.
@oribargil39583 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what im sayinnn ita not that inverted rows are hard to overload you just have to think of progressions in a different way as it is a bodyweight exercise! Working towards a front lever inverted row undoubtedly will make your back bigger
@IronOathFitness3 ай бұрын
I’m right there with you in terms of training at home.
@blackly_07263 ай бұрын
yes, Im doing the same, and my back is undoubtedly growing a lot
@mackieincsouthsea3 ай бұрын
Really pleased to see Meadows on S. I moved to these from Single Arm DB rows due to issues with form after progressing on load. I've always had issues with BB rows and struggled to maintain a neutral spine position as load progressed and I also have relatively weak grip, even when compensating with straps. Meadows kinda helped remove these weak points for me and have become a permanent fixture on pull day!
@soonerborn76033 ай бұрын
I’ve tried Meadows Rows and they just never feel right to me. I’m a John Meadows fan for sure, so I trust that they work! Maybe I just need to watch some more form videos or something…
@mackieincsouthsea3 ай бұрын
@@soonerborn7603 I think foot position counts for a lot, and straps for me! But hey, some movements are just natural for some and not others! I can certainly vouch for a good pump from them when done in a way that feels comfortable. I was pleased to see I do em just like Jeff too which I'm assuming is optimal af 😂 I defo can't say the same about all my lifts
@soonerborn76033 ай бұрын
@@mackieincsouthsea I’m definitely going to try them again. So many people swear by them! I’m thinking straps will definitely help to focus on pulling with the back and not the arm.
@bal7ha2ar2 ай бұрын
@@soonerborn7603 not every exercise works for everybody tho. one that your friend or coach swears by might not be optimal for you and vice versa. thats why its good that there are so many variations, one will definitely suit you well
@soonerborn76032 ай бұрын
@@bal7ha2ar I’ve been doing them some more and I’m coming around. The straps helped a lot! Still not my favorite rowing variation, but I like them more than I did a month ago!
@Edward-hb9qb2 ай бұрын
It feels like just yesterday you uploaded your first collaboration with John Meadows. I remember watching it the day you uploaded it. I thought of John as your polar; he was definitely the old-school bodybuilder from the golden days. But you held him and his opinions in such high regard, and I loved it. I loved your work with him, and I visited his channel several times. So sorry for your loss.
@rubenigbuwe92803 ай бұрын
Love this format, as a beginner this is super helpful. Earned a sub for sure. Shoulder and chest next?? 🔥
@shuyuye25053 ай бұрын
Jeff, cover shoulder next, please. Excellent video 🎉❤
@mspeterson7353 ай бұрын
Jeff, Your videos and social media posts are quickly climbing the list of my favorites. Thanks for always sharing great & informative content that helps us all become our best!
@lina_useche3 ай бұрын
Amazing info Jeff! Thanks a lot ✨
@semez3n03 ай бұрын
Awesome video,really helped me. We need more of those for the other muscle groups!!
@ColinDeWaay3 ай бұрын
I feel the lat prayer better than anything for sure but I like to do it kneeling. I think it just forces me to get a better stretch
@ItachiUchiha-jz9wbАй бұрын
its crazy when you think about it that this kind of quality videos are here on yt for free
@NicolasAlexanderOtto3 ай бұрын
Short, concise, brilliant thanks!
@Bryan-km4wbАй бұрын
I absolutely love these. Please do more videos like these for abs and legs!
@GIFTOFGVME3 ай бұрын
ill stick to my eric bugenhagen review of this and continue to grow my voluptuous back
@DUA1SH0CK3 ай бұрын
same tbh
@pictusfish2 ай бұрын
It's nice to see my juicy, horsecock brethren here
@Atif_Ph.D._Kate_Bush_Fan_Club3 ай бұрын
It doesn’t happen regularly but when JN does release a video 📺 you know it’s going to be of the highest quality! ❤️
@AW-cv8nf3 ай бұрын
JN and Dr. Mike are all i need, best of the best.
@ankit-k80133 ай бұрын
Menno also sometimes 😅
@BBQDad463Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Great information. You presentation squares with other research indicating that maximum tension during maximum stretch is the key.
@Kivaagno3 ай бұрын
Great video! Hopefully this is a new series!
@lincolnbeckett87913 ай бұрын
I really hope this is a new series! Loved this video. Hopefully you decide to do chest next!
@R3dCol0r3 ай бұрын
"Does it feel good? Check" Ranked with science?? You can't be serious... 🤦♂️
@R3dCol0r3 ай бұрын
Why don't you just call it "my personal favorites" or something.
@UrheiluhuIIu3 ай бұрын
Because using word "science" on the title gives you a lot more views. As a scientist I hate this trend.
@thesoundmajors98583 ай бұрын
why don't you stop crying
@DiEgOo4402 ай бұрын
@@R3dCol0r tHE FEELING IS literally an used metric, are you dumb?
@eddiesymons83902 ай бұрын
Well Jeff is right though. If it doesn't feel good then there's no point doing it. Science doesn't have to be purely about EMG data and all that bullshit when it's about your own body and what is right for you
@dev461953 ай бұрын
Excellent video !! Loved it
@frankhammonds74623 ай бұрын
Good stuff as usual Jeff. I love the neutral grip pulldown as an exercise. Especially for biasing the lats!
@RickyLu873 ай бұрын
Love this format Jeff! Thank you! I'm a climber and I do inverted rows as a way to cross train for climbing. I know what you mean about adding weight to increase the difficulty. My work around has been to use either a dip belt or a weightlifting belt and hang the weight below me, instead of on top of me. The setup is a little clunky maybe but it allows for smooth and effective reps once you're set. Give it a go sometime. Keep up the good work. You rock!
@TimMurielloOfficial3 ай бұрын
this a great chart to refer to if you would like a small back forever
@lurklingX2 ай бұрын
this format is FANTASTIC! : D
@gariejoyce52633 ай бұрын
Love the new format !
@filabila3 ай бұрын
Its like Jeff knew it was Back Day.... waiting on my Rise order code Jeff. thanks bro
@clevelandwhiteknife10843 ай бұрын
My back today too 😂
@hopecritical-ops55543 ай бұрын
Same
@Kidkosmos3 ай бұрын
PULL UP GANG, UNITE!
@SviaGnaot3 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite vids, the format is perfect, the time, and for some reason it feels satisfying watching this dude workout😂
@olivierbiehler88223 ай бұрын
Fantastic video and extremely helpful advice!....👍🙏
@stanthebamafan3 ай бұрын
For me #1 is neutral grip pull-ups with added weight. I do that as the first exercise every back workout, and it’s my most performed exercise for any body part on my fitness app. #2 is barbell rows/pendlay rows. After that is dumbbell rows, chest-supported rows, neutral grip pulldowns, and cable row variations. That’s essentially all I do for back (besides deadlift/squat), and I’ve always had a fairly strong and developed back. I have respect for people who will hit a body part with 20 different rotating exercises, but I like to keep it simple and do 2-4 exercises out of 6 or 7 with mostly heavy weights.
@tonydigital8083 ай бұрын
Weighted neutral grip pull ups are also my go to. I try to do all 3 grips but neutral is definitely my preferred grip
@doublevision29433 ай бұрын
Neutral grip pull ups are possibly my favourite exercise. I do them with fat grips and thumbless grip which makes them a great forearm builder at the same time Currently I'm switching over to wide grip pull ups again and it seems that there's more bicep activation. Either way seeing pull ups beneath pulldowns is painful to me and I can't help but disagree. I also love incline bench chest supported rows but unfortunately you're very strong in this position and it won't take long to max out the weights in local small town gyms so I'm trying "leaning on bench" one armed rows which give the better stretch and feel pretty good, too. This variation wasn't mentioned in the video. Dumbbell pullovers are also a must
@slade69592 ай бұрын
I have the same exact priority order 😂
@AS-pugАй бұрын
Which is better though for a wider back, neutral grip or wide grip pull up?
@doublevision2943Ай бұрын
@@AS-pug I believe normal and therefore also wide grip pull ups have an increased emphasis on the biceps, for me this limits my strength and makes it harder to engage my lats optimally. I'm almost certain that neutral grip is the best for lat focus.
@nikspring41883 ай бұрын
An excellent review of back exercises and their worth. It all made a lot of sense and wasn't long-winded. Thanks Mr Nippard! Job done!
@pavponmrv3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!! PLEASE VIDEO LIKE THIS FOR ANOTHER MUSCLES GROUPS!!!! ITS BEST VIDEO ADVICE EVER! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@brandonweinmann57002 ай бұрын
My man you were born to be a teacher. You explain everything so well
@2liter2 ай бұрын
Barbell row going in B tier is craziness
@quirkyelephant2 ай бұрын
Too high or low?
@2liter2 ай бұрын
@@quirkyelephant way too low
@aymen822 ай бұрын
Yates rows on c tier is even worse
@Voi8z2 ай бұрын
It require alot of stabilization.
@srleplay3 ай бұрын
I hate narrow neutral grip lat pull-downs, if I do a proper stretch, delts cut off my neck blood supply. It's awesome on the row though and I'd put cable row as the best single back exercise because you can incorporate little flexion for extra stretch and lower back stimulus.
@brandonellulstephens88052 ай бұрын
Would you start with cable rows sets for your first exercise because of benefits you said
@srleplay2 ай бұрын
@@brandonellulstephens8805 I usually have separate vertical and horizontal pull days and I focus on lats for quite some time now, but you can if you are serious about overall back development
@christopherrobinson76715 күн бұрын
Great video.... back is my favorite day. Thank you
@sheldom3Ай бұрын
I’m loving these exercises ranked videos!
@mementomori88563 ай бұрын
Lat Pulldowns, Cable Lat Pull-Over and Chest-supported Machine Rows give me the craziest lat pumps, + I LOVE the new program!
@microondasletal3 ай бұрын
Seems like a good list. However, I must point 2 things about the deadlift + rack pulls: 1. Rack Pulls going lower than the deadlift doesn't make much sense to me. The Rack Pulls work your back better even if you have less range of motion, because you start the deadlift movement just where the back starts to truly get engaged (the starting position you lose is more of a squat, really). Also, the fact that you start higher allows you to go much heavier, as you skip the point you're weaker at, and this overloads the back. This will inevitably build you more traps, which is something we all want, and also part of your shoulders and other stabilizers. The back pumps I get from doing rack pulls are from another world. 2. Deadlifts/rack pulls are very genetic based and I get that they don't work as great for everybody. For me, they are THE exercise for building the back, especially when you want to get it as thick as possible (mine EXPLODED in terms of progress when I started doing it just a few months back). Now, you can do a few things to engage the back more, like pre-activating some back muscles before it. If I lat spread during the whole movement, I get 3/4/5 days of soreness in them. That plus the pre-activation will improve anyone's ability to build their backs with the deadlift. Pretty much every top competitor does the deadlift for a reason. Strongmen have huge backs and they don't necessarily do any kind of rows, but they deadlift all the time. Cbum deadlifts, Dorian did, Arnold did, Ronnie did... You won't find that many Olympias that don't deadlift or rack pull.
@bobdarrick26283 ай бұрын
If by traps you mean upper traps, no we don’t all want them. They’re unaesthetic and gross. They look awkward/hunky and junky and take away from your shoulders. So there’s no value there.
@Shazok553 ай бұрын
@@bobdarrick2628 he probably means all parts of traps, also zero upper trap looks even worse
@bobdarrick26283 ай бұрын
@@Shazok55 no zero upper traps (which lets be honest - you never have zero) would look better than overdeveloped upper traps. I would take zero upper traps any day over big upper traps. Btw I neither have overdeveloped nor zero. Mine are probably proportionate to my physique. Not developed much I don’t think. Hopefully not. I don’t do shrugs btw. Maybe I should stop shoulder pressing and only do incline bench and dumbbell presses.
@Shazok553 ай бұрын
@@Bramble20322 i get it, its subjective, but in my opinion its not that common to have overdeveloped upper traps naturally, i also don't isolate them, just my 2 cents
@fusion0123 ай бұрын
Simply an amazing Tier list and I couldn't agree more!
@mobilelegendsmemes2 ай бұрын
When I watch workout videos I usually skip to the tutorial part then just copy them. But with your videos, I always end up watching them in full length because I really love the information even with the smallest details
@patrickbateman31463 ай бұрын
The spinal erectors are missed by a lot of body builders, because they can only be worked by deadlifts and variations, good mornings, and other spinal flexion/extension and twisting movements. They help to give the back a thicker, denser, 3d look. strongmen, and powerlifters, and others who have notoriously strong spinal erectors have huge backs because of this. When I think "huge back" I don't just think wide, I think dense and thick. Any lists of back exercises that don't also include some flexion/extension and twisting of the spine is an incomplete list. You did however include some rows that do this, such as single arm dumbbell rows, bent over rows, etc. But people who only work the lats and rhomboids are missing out. Work the erectors, and traps.
@JoshuaSweerts3 ай бұрын
Will it make your waist much wider so that you have a less aestaticly pleasing look? (Serious question)
@kyriakospaschalides69833 ай бұрын
no @@JoshuaSweerts
@patrickbateman31463 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaSweerts probably not. Obliques are worked by bending to the side. And that makes the waist look wider
@bobdarrick26283 ай бұрын
Upper traps are unaesthetic and gross
@IvanM2723 ай бұрын
This is not true. Powerlifters and strongman are not bigger and don’t look stronger than bodybuilders. Have you ever seen a strongman or powerlifter after a cut? They look SMALL for the amount of work, food and steroids they take, because of the style of training. Compared with bodybuilders off course. Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, El Sab, Big Ram, Yates, all of them have much bigger, more dense, thicker, more incredible backs than any strongman or powerlifter you want to pick. Eddie Hall after a cut looks smaller than at least 10 guys at my gym and he never even finished his cut because he knows and feels uncomfortable loosing his size because of his fat. Unless we’re taking about someone like Thor and maybe Shaw, but again you should come back after they get at 8% body fat to talk about “size”. Again, if you think this style of training is what decides, big and thick backs, compare this guys with similar body fat levels, not what you think it looks like on your computer. If you pick any top level strongman or powerlifter and put them on a bodybuilder program, can be only machines, they will become bigger, more dense, thicker than never before.
@akaakaakaak5779Ай бұрын
add 1 rep each workout to pull ups?! takes me 6 months to add another
@pyromanglad113620 күн бұрын
That's not normal, with any genetics you should've done way better. Something is wrong in your routine. Try to practice it with a little extra weight, just do as you can and after a week, you'll be able to pull up without weight very easy
@zerobasedaccounting34153 ай бұрын
This is very useful. Thanks for this
@ClashEditz9148 күн бұрын
best yt channel out there!! Keep it up! Helps alot of people, including me🙋♂️
@eggs_benny3 ай бұрын
I much prefer the free standing T-bar row to the chest supported row. The pad driving into my chest definitely does not win in the “feels good” department
@Ceredron3 ай бұрын
completely agree. The back stretch is huge but so is the chest support thing driving into my sternum. It feels like someone is driving a pencil into my mid-chest. I think this rating reaalllly depends on the quality of the machine in question. Not enough cushion = pain
@SChainey3 ай бұрын
I have flared ribs, so I agree, it can be uncomfortable. I will usually train one side at a time and hold on to the metal support. You can cheat it a little more with momentum, but I still find it a solid choice.
@letterkeys44403 ай бұрын
Below the knee rack pulls are my absolute favorite for lower back
@MrHadane3 ай бұрын
Might as well just do RDLs mate.
@letterkeys44403 ай бұрын
@@MrHadane lmao what? I’m not slamming my hammies just to barely feel anything in my back. Just a reminder I don’t think a single person on this planet reps rdl’s with more weight than they deadlift. Also not a single person alive reps rack pulls with less weight then they deadlift. You catching my point? Anyways in my push/pull/leg split I’m hitting rdl’s the next day
@AZ-gs6hj3 ай бұрын
Hyperextentions with a weight plate or if your gym has a hyperextention machine even better. You can remove all the other muscles and focus only on the lower back.
@letterkeys44403 ай бұрын
@@AZ-gs6hj I literally only use the hyper extension machine when I’m too lazy for heavy rack pulls or if the platforms and barbells are occupied 😤 Literally nothing compares for the strength gains. In terms of hypertrophy ur right - I get insane pumps on the hyper extension with plates
@pissy44763 ай бұрын
For lower back? I feel like rack pulls are more effective for the traps. On the topic of lower back, zercher deadlifts with back rounding are insane bro.
@wellnez.2 күн бұрын
love your videos, please do one for biceps!! ♥
@user-pi8fr2um8y3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative video
@iggytse3 ай бұрын
What is missing here is a nautilus pull over machine. Not very common but you get resistance in the full range of motion in the lat.
@alixthefunk3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's probably missed out because it's not that common. Probably beats the pullover
@snacking59083 ай бұрын
The one arm dumbbell row isn’t discredited by athlean x. He refers to the split stance. I agree with this. It is better and more natural to and with both feet on the ground
@AdrianVisan3 ай бұрын
I actually get pain with both feet on the ground, the split stance is so much better for me, but I do 45 degree angle instead of parallel to the bench
@Pienimusta3 ай бұрын
Yes. Even Jay Cutler does it both feet on ground, leaning to the weight rack.
@TheTetraSpirit3 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of the hate Jeff C gets nowadays is from people playing telephone with his comments and not actually listening to him themselves, I.E. the rows listed here and his stance on upright rows, both of which I happen to take his side on.
@lp16803 ай бұрын
I personally stopped doing one arm dumbbell rows because I feel so much asymmetric tension in my abdomen. Plenty of other exercises
@JeffNippard3 ай бұрын
He ranks it as his worst exercise 1 minute into this video, so I think my comments about him being critical of it are accurate and fair: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZqmiJal37yxZ2Q.html And even if it’s just a form thing, I still think having one knee up isn’t a big deal and doesn’t warrant ranking it as worst. Edit: actually, within the first 10 seconds of that video he literally says “the 1 arm dumbbell row is an absolute no for me” haha 🤷🏼♂️
@MindBodyEvolutionTV14 күн бұрын
Great and fantastic job Jeff...Love your video ..could you make video on Glutes,Legs, biceps, shoulders, basically all of them
@lyrion.ararangua3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the class
@iaboni1003 ай бұрын
I can see why Jeff gave the recommendations he did based on his criteria, but in practice how many people do you know that built huge well rounded backs doing half kneeling 1 arm lat pulldowns and lying facepulls, and how many do you know who built great backs doing heavy rows, deadlifts and pull ups (Ronnie?, Dorian?, Stan Efferding?)? In fact none of the S tier exercises are particularly good at building spinal erectors which are one of the most common separators between a good back and a great back.
@ieuanjones76153 ай бұрын
always that one bro science guy
@GrahnFoerFaen3 ай бұрын
"Ranked with science" and one main criteria is "feel" sounds more bro to me. Pullovers, facepulls and cross-body kneeling 1 arm pish posh over deadlifts and barbells rows is nuts. Try building a legit back on that shit.@@ieuanjones7615
@pictusfish2 ай бұрын
@@ieuanjones7615 He's right though. You couldn't even come at this this with a counter argument. Why is he wrong?
@akshaymishra36742 ай бұрын
When you are as strong as Ronnie was . Your workout changes . These KZfaq videos are more generic and not tailormade for professional bodybuildes.@@pictusfish
@isaacjr5932 ай бұрын
don't forget that famous bodybuilders are big consumers of steroids, and the health conditions at the spinal level are not the best now given the poor choice of exercises before the development of the sports session
@sqwod3 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🏋️ Back exercises are ranked from S for super to F for fail based on muscle growth potential.* 00:13 *📦 Criteria for good back exercises include stretch with high tension, comfort, and simple progression.* 00:56 *🚫 Renegade rows are in F tier due to poor stretch, balance issues, and diluted tension from combining plank and row.* 01:52 *⬇️ Deadlifts rank in C tier for back hypertrophy due to limited stretch and tension; better for lower body strength.* 02:50 *💪 Wide grip pull-ups are in A tier for high tension and stretch, despite uneven resistance profile.* 03:33 *🏋️♂️ Wide grip lat pull Downs are in S tier for great stretch, tension, and stability, ideal for overall back development.* 06:31 *💪 Meadows rows, with intense stretch and tension, earn a spot in S tier for exceptional midback activation.* 09:03 *🏋️♂️ Chest supported rows, providing stable tension isolation, are in S tier for effective back development.* 09:30 *🔄 Cable rows, offering deep stretch and pump, are in S tier, with wide grip cable rows providing additional mid trap activation.* 11:38 *🥇 Chest supported row is crowned as the best back exercise, while Renegade row is deemed the worst for hypertrophy.* Summarized with ❤by Sqwod.life
@harshitsingh87473 ай бұрын
thanks, useful information is much appreciated
@TheFitnessPsychoАй бұрын
Literally saw this on the way to the gym for a pull day, amazing timing
@alan80313 ай бұрын
Well, standard barbell row a B tier when all emg studies show high activation in all back (upper, mid and lower), I disagree with you
@hbua55393 ай бұрын
great vid but personnally I think sthg is wrong when pullups are not in S tier
@linejuss2 ай бұрын
Your back hypertrophy program is amazing. Very noticeable progression and impressive hypertrophy
@user-wh7ne9ef6d3 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving me a good advice for building a back muscle 💪💪
@smithplayspokemon3 ай бұрын
Man is getting his list format pacing on lock! This video was so well structured!
@JayFry2 ай бұрын
Hey Pat
@johncoster993 ай бұрын
Deadlift in c tier is absolutely criminal
@ManOfDeath5673 ай бұрын
Very well done video.
@user-ig6wd8jx5h3 ай бұрын
Thank you you for the hardwork
@ChrisPTY5073 ай бұрын
Nothing beats the classic Dumbbell Pullovers. They are incredibly underrated, and you won't realize it until you see the insane results and the improvement in your v-taper.
@adamlucina3 ай бұрын
I really like the cable version, you take a bench, angle it 60-75 degrees, put your head below the cable, so the arms can just reach the attachment and do the pullover. Its really feels like nautilus pullover without any instability.
@calebford63183 ай бұрын
Tension curve leaves a lot to be desired. There are smarter ways to workout, no need to be stubborn
@ChrisPTY5073 ай бұрын
@@calebford6318 No stubbornness here, man. Just do the workout with proper, diligent form and the results will speak for itself. No even need to argue here.
@chonkeboi3 ай бұрын
@@calebford6318it’s lengthened biased and is literally a lengthened partial which is shown to cause at least equal or more growth than full rom. I’m not much of a science guy when it comes to lifting but they are a good exercise when you look at it anecdotally and scientifically. They might not be the best but they are definitely a good one.
@cumquat83203 ай бұрын
The lats have no leverage in that position 😂
@sandroairj3 ай бұрын
Hi Jeff, I’m a Doctor (MD, resident in orthopedic surgery), I’m very passionate about biomechanics and sports&exercise medicine, and I wanna give you my compliments for your work and your extreme competence and proficiency. Well done bro, keep going on!
@stackered3 ай бұрын
1. Jeff is a fake natty 2. Jeff is a fake scientist 3. Heavy DB rows, Deadlifts, Barbell Rows/Pendlay, and Pull/Chin Ups are all you need 4. I saw this guy with
@ctfreeman25303 ай бұрын
@@stackered This is the most accurate info on this channel.
@linkplays29523 ай бұрын
@@stackered how does his voice change his credibility? proof hes fake natty? proof he's a fake scientist?
@rorybailey32793 ай бұрын
More videos like this very informative and indepth on each exercise
@BlakeThulin3 ай бұрын
I love the deficit Pendlay row. When my form breaks down on the last few reps, I usually make the eccentrics even longer to increase the stimulus. I'm just getting back into the swing of things, but I'm going to incorporate neutral-grip pullups as my strength goes up and my weight goes down. Awesome video! Thanks!