Completely agree BG; for so many smaller roads 125s provide ample fun. If I could buy the 155cc version XSR available in India and the far east I think I would have the perfect all purpose machine.

Same here. I´ll be getting the legacy version.

Seriously, how has this not happened yet...or a z400rs

@@camerynrichards5211 z400rs ! Great Idea🙈 Do you know about the Honda CB 400super four? Similar concept 😋

@@John2E0GTU On a different bike, The Honda CB125R is still for sale here, but they seem to have stopped with the CB300R, I would think because of our super silly licence laws in the UK regarding learners, there is not that much of a shout for a 300, think about it, once you have passed your big bike test, would you buy a 300cc bike. They are aimed at commuting unfortunately. My wife just bought a new 2021 Cb125r and I had thought of buying a 300 to join her when riding out, cant seem to get a new one. I know there are other manufactures out there, but I do like the look of the Honda. Gee.

@@geewhite32 unfortunately bigger bikes seem more popular for some reason. even if u only have the A2 license, most people will buy a bigger bike and restrict it to 48hp. in case of the honda tho, it seems like they discontinued the bike because of euro6, as far as i can tell? or at least what the internet tells me.

Yeah that's still the most sensible thing to do if you're stepping up quickly. This is more of a long term purchase that I felt delivers in terms of quality, it just depends on the individual's circumstances

Very lucky to get one of those for that price usually find the previous owner has made it un savable before it's worth that little. I thought even a 2009 now would be worth £2500-2800

Japanese yamaha is mind

Would you say this handles going up hill ok and the power doesn't die and it slows down. I have a yzf r125 but thinking of trading it for the xsr but worries about it not having enough power to get my 19 stone ass up hills without it dying

Cheers mate! Uploads have been sporadic this year as I just went full time and I'm trying to find the right balance of being out shooting vs staying home and editing. For the past week or so I've been able to get something out every day though which is definitely helping the numbers! :)

@@motobob Hats off Bob 1 a week is a lot of work👏👏 are you scripting or is it all off the cuff

@@RoadRashTV a bit of a mix but tbh scripting is more efficient and leads to more consistently engaging videos so i reckon that's the way to go

@@motobob i find it very hard without a script ... anyway stay upright Bob. talk again Bobbymax

That made me LoL

How do you find it going up hill does it die and loose speed I'm thinking of trading my yzf r125 for one if these as finding it uncomfortable with it being a sports bike.

it goes quite nicely havet noticed much speed loss... couple of km if kept at a sready gas@@bobwhitton678

yeah its insane how prices rose over the last 5 years. 2015 bikes were priced at around 3000. now we are at least 4500. I mean there are cheaper bikes as the brixton 125 chromewell for example, which cost about 2800 with abs, but those are cheaply priced for a reason. 125 should get affordable again. because for 5000-6000 u can get new 300cc or newly used 650ccs

@@forsaken7161 I remember when top price of premium smartphones were around 400

17 year olds are looking at the Duke 125 :) trust me bro trust me :p

I am 187 and own a yellow one. Oh boy, am I pleased with it¡¡

Mine cost £310 in 1996 a honda cb125rs. It was rubbish though I wanted a mtx 125 but they were £1k at least.

This isn't a bike for new learners. This is for us Gen Xers with midlife crisis and too little time to go for a full A1 license. There's several countries where you can ride 125cc if you're an experienced car license holder (Spain, Italy) or with a short course with no test on top of your car license (Germany, Austria). Here in Austria, the short course is 1 day and costs around €200,-. The full A1 course would take weeks and cost around €1000,- or so if you pass the test on the first try. Plus, they're all booked out until next spring due to the pandemic.

Many people don't want to because the 125s give good fuel economy

Actually it's made in France and the motor is made in Italy Yamaha-Minarelli.

@@cambrabrownr the motor isn't a minarelli. It's the same motor as the mt and r125. Loo

Don't know about that 10 year old Varadero's with a ton of miles are going for around 4k and up now.

You can snip those off with wire cutters in less than a minute.

Well it must be doing well considering they've sold over 33,000 units already. Plus the engine is the same as the mt 125 and yzf r125

The pound is very weak right now. People with time share holiday places are pay over £1000 a year now.

Yeah, we don't get the xsr 155 yet in India , but we get the r15 and mt15 around 1700 pounds or $2300. So for the 125 i don't think this worth it.

Afraid so - "The A1 allows you to ride up to a 125cc bike with engine power not exceeding 11kw (~15hp) and a maximum power to weight ratio of 0.1kw per kg"

Before 82/83 if I remember correctly there was no limit on 125s after 82/83 it was 12bhp to be learner legal. The unrestricted RD125LC was 21bhp which did come in 12bhp form. The Suzuki GP125 only came learner legal. You may have your wires crossed with the GT125/185 from the 70s tho.

@@motobob many thanks Bob.

@@derekcable these de restricted 2 strokes were the reason the laws changed. Same with the 250 my dad was learning on. OK when it was a 4 stroke cb250. But not when yamaha did a rd250 LC that went over 100mph.

@@chrishart8548 My 1st bike was a new Yellow RD250 air-cooled in 79 on L plates,a friend bought a pre-registered RD125 twin which got round the restriction learner law.

Not for india

Bullit is garbage. You'll spend most of the time off road because the parts are hard to come by.

So true, that's what I'm waiting for hopefully!!!!

Is motor is way more modern

You absolutely right !

Meanwhile the honda forza 125 and xmax 125 are £5000 I'd rather take this and save £500 lol

If you can afford it, go for it. It's a great bike very easy to ride. Great for starters and will probably sell at a good second hand price when you decide to move on to a bigger bike.

They've already sold 33,000 plus units already.

@@JDMz I can believe that, people with more money than sense

I was thinking of Hyosung

@@motobob oh.. Hyosung does not manufacture motorcycles anymore. KR Motorcycles emerged as a legacy brand after Hyosung separated from Suzuki in the late 90's, but they failed miserably. KR has some, but no 'significant' motorcycle manufacturing facilities in Korea; rather, they only maintain sales and essential service facilities to market and maintain Chinese motorcycles, either as OEM or SKD. Almost all Korean motorcyle parts suppliers vanished after Daelim and Hyosung separated from Honda and Suzuki, and it was like 20 years ago. And Korea has changed so much during those 20 years. I mean, it wouldn't make any managerial sense to manufacture a entry class motorcycles which sell for less than 6,000 dollors in a country where GDP per capita exceeds USD 30,000 when you can simply do the same in Vietnam or China for a fraction of the costs.

@@instant_karma6831 thanks for all the info - much appreciated

Seems like the going rate for a good 125 now. Couple more years and they will be £5k... when the honda crf250L came out it was £3,997 2013 maybe?

All these small cc bikes are expensive in the UK compared to Australia canada etc. But then 125cc is more fun around uk towns also.

@@aminjan56 not just the small cc bikes a kawasaki ninja 650 performance is now £8200 that's a parallel twin with normal way up forks and 68hp.

When u think about Vespa 125 is much more expensive, it feels cheap xD

It goes up faster than adding interest from finance. I paid £600 in interest over 3 years the list price had gone up £680. Saved £80 by borrowing the money and having the bike for 3 years earlier than if I saved.

@@chrishart8548 The cost of motorcycles now is crazy. When you consider in 1996 and Suzuki Bandit cost £4000 new.

@@teapeabartle4046 I remember that I bought a brand new susuki gs500E they were £2,995 when the bandit was probably £3,995. I think the yamaha fazer was £4,995 when it first came out and maybe the honda hornet was £4,895

@@chrishart8548 All good bikes in their own way and with no traction control, TFT screens, lean sensors, active cruise control and all that stuff that manufacturers tell us we need. But I do like ABS.

@@teapeabartle4046 I like traction control its great on those pesky draincovers that always seem to be right were I need to go on a corner for a good line.

True. But I guess the 125cc value proposal is UK centric. Yeah the 155 has about 4 more HP and is less than 2k pounds here [No ABS!] in the LOS!

@@spdaltid LOS?

@@user-sw2lv3zp6o Sorry, Land Of Smiles....

@@spdaltid It is where I am. I think the view of them always smiling is a thing of the past.

@@user-sw2lv3zp6o Yep:... can't always believe those Tourism Authority Marketeers!

Bet they still sell a fair few. On finance people Don't care what the price is.

It's not that much. The honda forza 125 is £500 more expensive lol

@@JDMz no thank you... i'll have something cheaper, £4,500 for a 125cc? there are other practical options out there.