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New 2024 BMW R12 & NineT Full Walkaround & Specs!

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@alastairtheduke
@alastairtheduke 9 ай бұрын
I'm not a cruiser fan but That R12 is one of the best looking cruisers I've seen
@dgomes265
@dgomes265 9 ай бұрын
R12 looks cool and will hopefully appeal yo the cruiser intenders. The R9T is still my favourite retro and prefer the look of existing model.
@AdventureRockNRoller
@AdventureRockNRoller 9 ай бұрын
That R12 looks really appealing. Can’t wait to see it in the flesh. I hope it’s ground clearance in corners though is much improved on the R18
@JasonPinhay
@JasonPinhay 9 ай бұрын
I also think the older R9T was better looking. That new R12 looks really sharp from the video, gives me vibes of my Moto Guzzi Griso. Too bad they down tuned it, but maybe once tuners get at it, hopefully a flash will give it the full beans.
@kmw300
@kmw300 9 ай бұрын
I love the R12! Since I lost my beloved R1200C in an accident in 2022 and even before I was hoping for a newer and lighter cruiser from BMW and it appears that the R12 is it. I’m really excited and I just hope it will fit me just was well as the R1200C , which felt like Taylor made for me. Both Variants look great, I think. Finally, thank you for making these great Videos, they are very helpful and nice to watch.
@56sketch
@56sketch 9 ай бұрын
Hard to justify the BMW badge markup but that cruiser is gorgeous
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 9 ай бұрын
wait 10 years and get a used one
@larryhouse3776
@larryhouse3776 9 ай бұрын
There's arguably no markup for it being a BMW. What you get and the technology that comes with it is very competitively priced. In many cases you can even see their S1000rr coming in cheaper than a Yamaha R1. And the BMW is more powerful, more premium feeling, and has better technology.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 9 ай бұрын
Especially on paint prices 😮
@ml2799
@ml2799 9 ай бұрын
I saw that r12 cruiser today at the NEC bike show and in my opinion, was the hands down bike of the show for me, as shown here it looked incredible in the flesh.
@sarnbradshaw7382
@sarnbradshaw7382 8 ай бұрын
Did you sit on and try it out for ergo’s?
@pixelmixture3067
@pixelmixture3067 9 ай бұрын
italians are allready building tiny bikes ... germans should think of more than 6 feet drivers ... we want a 9T scrambler for tall people !
@DucatiDiaries
@DucatiDiaries 9 ай бұрын
Agreed fully
@VelkePivo
@VelkePivo 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Motobob looks big on the bike and I’m much taller. Then again, judging from BMW’s ad, most of these bikes are purchased by free spirited, untamable bad-ass women, so maybe small is the way to go.
@Scouse.Malinois
@Scouse.Malinois 9 ай бұрын
I disagree. What do want straight legs on a bike? It's a normal sized bike probably mt09 size. Is it just that your really fat or something?
@paulred158
@paulred158 9 ай бұрын
lol you tall guys already have the entire adv market, what else do you want.😀
@pixelmixture3067
@pixelmixture3067 9 ай бұрын
@@Scouse.Malinois there's a middle point between straight legs and 100° bent knees ...
@CorGP
@CorGP 9 ай бұрын
I would 100% get one of these over Harley’s new nightster.
@motobob
@motobob 9 ай бұрын
Agreed it looks the better bike 👍
@NazirKhambati
@NazirKhambati 9 ай бұрын
i am more drawn towards the older R9T but neverthess the new R129T also looks fab...
@user-lu2xe6df9z
@user-lu2xe6df9z 9 ай бұрын
Great details, literally just put money down on a R9T scrambler, thought they might have added power so thank you for making this video, well done.
@gmoneymac23
@gmoneymac23 9 ай бұрын
BMW continues to neglect the R1250R model, yet, it's one of their best bikes.
@gillianbrodie6807
@gillianbrodie6807 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video. 😃👍 I really like the R12, (the 719 option) and I prefer the look of the old R nine T. Keep up the good work. 😃
@plap.
@plap. 9 ай бұрын
in this day and age everything should have a tachometer.
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 9 ай бұрын
I dunno, ride modes called "rock" and "roll" sound like an overdose of Americana cheese to me.....
@motobob
@motobob 9 ай бұрын
Haha well yes there is that! Don’t love those names either… but the looks of the physical bike are good imo
@jedw9983
@jedw9983 9 ай бұрын
R12 looks fantastic. Can't wait for the review!
@mikeogden5256
@mikeogden5256 7 ай бұрын
Oh that cruiser is amazing 😻
@manuelaluciani8449
@manuelaluciani8449 9 ай бұрын
Dude your reviews are immaculate and very well made !!
@stewy62
@stewy62 9 ай бұрын
I think I prefer the old R nineT style but it had a good run, I guess it was due a change. I do like the R12 although it’s not really my thing. The price differential is hard to justify but even the old nineT was more expensive than the R1250R which on paper beats it hands down. Go figure ! The BMW video called the bike with a bikini fairing a “Racer” so expect more variants in the future although I’ll be sticking with my old R nineT Racer 🇬🇧
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 9 ай бұрын
I think the difference between R9T and r1250r is the build. One have more attention to details and fir and finish one is just a practical bike. At least that’s the way I looked at it. What I find hard is choosing which I prefer. Do I want comfort or cool…
@stewy62
@stewy62 9 ай бұрын
@@Vegesaurus7 I prefer the air/oil cooled engine (for reasons that are not logical) and the heritage style but the new R nineT is £2,090 more than the R1250R in the UK and £1,280 more than the R1250RS. Your point about build quality is well made but equally the £2,430 difference between the R nineT and the R12 I find hard to justify, and it’s only £570 less than the old R1250GS.
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 9 ай бұрын
Yep those are great points. From what I hear the r1250 r, rs and gs are a lot more comfortable to ride. I guess you really have to want the style of the RnineT
@posteroonie
@posteroonie 9 ай бұрын
I find the naked bike riding position more commanding because I have weight on the front wheel and can put weight on my arms. Cruisers may have the "commanding" attitude but steering them is like using a tiller.
@ronaldthomas9396
@ronaldthomas9396 9 ай бұрын
I prefer the analog gages myself!
@haydncolcombe9300
@haydncolcombe9300 9 ай бұрын
Good to meet you today at Motorcycle Live, you're alot taller in real life 😁👍
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@tompGA
@tompGA 9 ай бұрын
Issue is that this is still the old Oil Head engine that was in the GS's 2009-2012 and is unchanged. Also has a dry clutch that is positioned at the back of the engine. Any service on that clutch means breaking the bike in half.
@S2NAZ
@S2NAZ 7 ай бұрын
Finally a seat height I can ride! Can’t wait to test ride it 👍🏻
@AMDP65
@AMDP65 8 ай бұрын
The best boxer engine ever - the 1200 twincam aircooled. Bring back a R1200GS air cooled with basic ABS as an alternative to the finicky 1300cc LC!
@paulred158
@paulred158 9 ай бұрын
I’m totally not a cruiser person as I have older Italian sports bikes but the cruiser is a very elegant bike.
@Force-Majeure
@Force-Majeure 9 ай бұрын
Not in my price range, plus I´m addicted to Moto Guzzi BUT these bikes look fabulous
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 9 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on speed twin 1200?
@JasonSmith-dw3vp
@JasonSmith-dw3vp 9 ай бұрын
The R12 is surprisingly appealing
@user-hf6ok2tj5h
@user-hf6ok2tj5h 8 ай бұрын
excellent side by side overview of both new R12 models. Presented in a clearly spoken and easy to understand generic English accent, thank you. Particularly liked that you sat on the bikes to illustrate their relative size. Eagerly waiting for your road test - and the USA release of course.
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Bob was waiting for your thoughts on these new bikes. I always look forward to your take. 😊 I love the RnineT and think these are both great successors to the old one. You have to keep moving. I am also surprised by how much I like that R12. Can’t wait to sit on one and see how comfy those ergonomics are. It looks amazing. I’m also surprised how much I like the look of that small digital gauge.
@MrAndrew1953
@MrAndrew1953 9 ай бұрын
Really like the swing arm on the green tank model. Having had 2 Boxers I’d go for the 109 hp.
@simpletonballsack
@simpletonballsack 9 ай бұрын
Gotta admit, I never saw the R12 coming. Bit of a pleasant surprise and seems naturally introduced by the R18 to completely distance it from the R1200C.
@david-johntiemens573
@david-johntiemens573 9 ай бұрын
Thanks brother! I’m loving the R12. I hate the 19” front and the muted engine… but those looks.
@williamclarke2020
@williamclarke2020 8 ай бұрын
That may be the best all-rounder motorcycle ever. Great power and torque from a reliable motor and now with USD forks. It looks so friggin cool! Especially the all aluminium and red frame of the 719. Solo seat conversion is wicked and I'd opt for the larger fairing instead of the fly screen. I'll have my saddle in a dark brown tan please! Wow! I'm torn between this and the Tiger 900 GT Pro. I know they have different purposes but a guy can dream... As per usual, great reporting!
@mrlancekink
@mrlancekink 7 ай бұрын
great review!
@mitchellfox3130
@mitchellfox3130 9 ай бұрын
New r9t all day. So much cleaner looking than the outgoing model. Airbox (and I assume) battery in a sensible location. This is a worthy successor. Green, analog gauges and tubeless spoked wheels please (if a suitcase of Franklins was left on my doorstep).
@Krebs61
@Krebs61 6 ай бұрын
Got the now old nineT for years now... Waiting for a test drive at the dealer RN, the old bike is awesome, wanna try the new one before I press buy.
@daionsavage
@daionsavage 5 ай бұрын
My guess is that they are equal in ”fun” factor. But the new one looks gorgeous! (I ride a 2016 Pure: raw as anything and basic to the bone, but the rush I get from taking it through a twisty road is immense!)
@GaryFackler
@GaryFackler 9 ай бұрын
I like the new Nine T .... especially in the green color scheme. Three questions: 1) Does the optional digital dash include a fuel level gauge, 2) Is the optional bikini fairing available in the green color, and 3) Is an optional center stand available this year? Thanks. Nice reporting.
@jays9211
@jays9211 9 ай бұрын
All good questions
@tommydogsdad
@tommydogsdad 6 ай бұрын
I am so looking forward to the r12 in America! This is top of my list of bikes to potentially purchase this year.
@BikashDeepharijan-vn4lz
@BikashDeepharijan-vn4lz 9 ай бұрын
Great video sir❤❤❤
@motobob
@motobob 9 ай бұрын
🙏
@naarealy
@naarealy 9 ай бұрын
Looks great! As an owner of the old RnineT, I was hoping they would go retro-futuristic with the new model. Most of the modern styled BMWs look strange to me.
@M3ANDER
@M3ANDER 9 ай бұрын
Great introduction again - thank you! Even though I don't prefer neither of this types of bike, both look great to me! Did you mention that both are equiped with a steering damper?
@motobob
@motobob 9 ай бұрын
No fair point. Surprised the R12 needs it being so raked out
@Stickybutton
@Stickybutton 9 ай бұрын
How can they omit the Akrapovic exhausts?
@aluminati9918
@aluminati9918 8 ай бұрын
Frankly, both bikes look amazing! Well done, BMW.
@RocnerdSA
@RocnerdSA 9 ай бұрын
I prefer the old tank
@n22pdf
@n22pdf 9 ай бұрын
I owned an older version when they were first released.. I think the new versions look much nicer well done BMW. It's a shame they changed lowered the power so much on the other version. Pete
@geoffball9547
@geoffball9547 9 ай бұрын
Strangely the R12 has some chops!
@88davidw
@88davidw 9 ай бұрын
Love the R12. The nineT doesn’t look as good as the old one.
@ukvamp
@ukvamp 9 ай бұрын
any signs of a fuel gauge?
@user-vt3ji6zv1j
@user-vt3ji6zv1j 9 ай бұрын
Does the new r12ninet come with a fuel gauge this time? It’s a lovely looking bike and I would have considered one but when you have added a few extras to r12ninet you are looking close to 16k, out of my price.
@colingoldthorpe5918
@colingoldthorpe5918 9 ай бұрын
These just look all wrong in person. I looked hard at them but that motor just looks odd in a retro bike. Sorry but the Bonneville is the perfect design retro bike.
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 9 ай бұрын
Nice one Bob. Thank you. I’d take the RS version from team green.
@xu10j4rs1
@xu10j4rs1 6 ай бұрын
R12 looks great and I’d definitely keep the analogue dials! Digi looks better than most digi dashes though
@Jon_Yale
@Jon_Yale 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait for your road review on this bike mate. Any idea when that's coming?
@terryclair2914
@terryclair2914 9 ай бұрын
Still in love with my 21' R9T Urban GS Bumblebee. It would be a hard bike to replace!
@linopontes
@linopontes 9 ай бұрын
12k and 14k... suddenly a 2nd hand MT-09 SP or 890r are going to be even better deals.
@bernardlesperance742
@bernardlesperance742 6 ай бұрын
Love the R 12 ! . . . At least based on the promo pics and videos. Can't wait to see one at my local BMW Motorrad . . . and hopefully be able to test ride it . . . and . . . just maybe give my Sportster 1200 a new companion !
@willswanson2145
@willswanson2145 8 ай бұрын
I loved my 9t. The one thing I don’t like about the new style is the length of the tank, I don’t like seeing all the wiring exposed up where the neck of the frame is. I do like that the removed the snorkel, but everything else I liked better about the old.
@johnhinds6540
@johnhinds6540 9 ай бұрын
Great review! Question: does the R12NineT finally include a fuel gauge? (p.s. prefer the clocks, thank you!)
@amandacatherine793
@amandacatherine793 9 ай бұрын
I would have preferred the TFT as a modular add-on to the analog gauges… I certainly hope there is a fuel gauge. I think a decade is long enough to wait for basic fare.
@michaeld2587
@michaeld2587 9 ай бұрын
That cruiser could be stretched out a bit bit elongating and increasing the seat a bit. Might make it a better cruiser
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th 9 ай бұрын
Being an R9T owner, not impressed with the R12 9T. The regular R12 is fine but like the R18 it won't sell well.
@coreytravisbean
@coreytravisbean 8 ай бұрын
I've got the R9t, never been a super big cruiser fan because they all kinda look the same, but this one catches my eye.
@Nils_Martin
@Nils_Martin 9 ай бұрын
I had the old R nineT when they first come out, and i absolutely love it. I think this new one looks pretty damn interesting..!! 🤙🏼
@javiervar494
@javiervar494 8 ай бұрын
Good couple of bikes for new year. Good review 👍
@deandias5198
@deandias5198 Ай бұрын
Would love to see the full review of this bike
@SPSteve
@SPSteve 6 ай бұрын
I really like the R12. When I was looking for a new bike two years ago (I bought a Moto Guzzi V7 Special) I looked at the R nineT but I didn't like the rear modern sport bike styling. I would have bought the new R12 with its more traditional styling and rear fender.
@chrisjonesbath
@chrisjonesbath 9 ай бұрын
Ummm, The NineT oil cooled BMWs were always good looking, but what were they thinking with the R12? The R18 was also a looker, but the R12 is neither a muscle cruiser nor a retro, a bit of dogs breakfast from the photos. Raiding the Harley catalogue for a rear mudguard does not a good looking cruiser make and cruisers more than any other type of bike need to look good. Maybe it looks better in the flesh? I'm a cruiser fan and also love the boxer twin engine, but I'm very disappointed by their styling efforts with the R12. The weirdo R1200C at least had a style all of its own.
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 9 ай бұрын
Great video, both look good to me!
@esr243
@esr243 6 ай бұрын
You’re a fine reviewer
@nickbetts2244
@nickbetts2244 9 ай бұрын
Looks really good. The build quality looks great. 👌
@martyn_g
@martyn_g 8 ай бұрын
If you dig the boxer/shaft drive configuration, it’s hard to go back to a chain driven bike, I reckon.
9 ай бұрын
Here in PT the price for the new nineT starts now on 19.2k€. as the other "lower" versions will be descontinued... THis thing will tank. at least for now...
@stewy62
@stewy62 9 ай бұрын
Do you still have a Racer ? 🇬🇧
9 ай бұрын
@@stewy62 I never got to buy it. Crisis happened and in less than a month I had lost in value the money to buy 2 of those. :D... still waiting on a recovery... but now, I would get me a V100 Mandelo... In the meanwhile, still happy with my w650 cafe racer that I built myself.
@stewy62
@stewy62 9 ай бұрын
@ That is a shame, I have my Racer but I can see you have a very good taste in motorcycles !
@43tubularbells
@43tubularbells 7 ай бұрын
Great video! I love the R12. I am hopeful but not optimistic that they will offer nice looking, locking hard bags for it.
@coboisarapatanas
@coboisarapatanas 7 ай бұрын
BMW R12 take my money
@kingdave250
@kingdave250 9 ай бұрын
Can‘t wait to see the R12 GS Dakar Style
@xclent1975
@xclent1975 9 ай бұрын
R12 is not a cruiser it’s a standard
@aidenscott71
@aidenscott71 9 ай бұрын
Love both of those. Beautiful
@suppersready4you
@suppersready4you 9 ай бұрын
They are both really nice bikes I always have been a boxer fanatic and maybe next season I'll give the Ninet a try I do prefer the previous cylinder head look Thanks Bob for taking the time to do all these reviews Ride safe Marcelo Great job!
@matts.1758
@matts.1758 8 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the scrambler/gs version
@a99miata
@a99miata 8 ай бұрын
love to see a R100RT version of this new tech
@brianharradine8130
@brianharradine8130 9 ай бұрын
Latest R9T in green is the way to go
@leominus9758
@leominus9758 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, i'v aways liked the look of the r9t but don't like the retro gage's & now that little TFT dash looks really good
@thejohnnerparty
@thejohnnerparty 7 ай бұрын
I like the look of the 719 pkg, but I think I like the R nine T styling better.
@mikerider58
@mikerider58 9 ай бұрын
Analog speedo and Rev counter every day on Classic Bikes Rolex DON'T make digital watches. Digital clocks on motorcycles is a Cheap Trick . Rider modes are also a cheap trick on classic. Rider Modes are in your right hand. R12 is the Best bike lve seen in a very long time and the price fits the bike. R 12 Absolutely Beautiful 😍
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 9 ай бұрын
Like the new Yamaha MT09,I'm seeing a BMW flattracker there....love that green paint on the other one though!
@jameshicks8742
@jameshicks8742 6 ай бұрын
I would love to know if they added a fuel gauge! I am leaning more towards a Triumph Bonneville T120
@kawajocb1685
@kawajocb1685 9 ай бұрын
Loved the Bikes. ❤
@user-lm9sv7yb6p
@user-lm9sv7yb6p 9 ай бұрын
Is there finally a fuel gauge?
@kikoy08
@kikoy08 9 ай бұрын
Digital Display as an option? What does BMW intends to point, that there will be optional handlebar next time?😂😂😂
@eramusmotovlog
@eramusmotovlog 9 ай бұрын
How tall are you?
@zufadhlibuhari528
@zufadhlibuhari528 9 ай бұрын
Does it come with a fuel gauge? 😂
@samus4799
@samus4799 6 ай бұрын
Dude… DUDE. I’m going deeper into debt. Edit; That MSRP is a bit confusing though, I’d think it’d be below the R18….
@Gabrielone1971
@Gabrielone1971 9 ай бұрын
Good review, you have just confirmed my desire to stay with the 2014 - 2023 models. Smaller tank, less horsepower, lower riding position and poor indicator design. You’ve saved me 15k 👍
@humanbeing1675
@humanbeing1675 9 ай бұрын
Only the cruiser has less power...
@AdamC66
@AdamC66 9 ай бұрын
R9T owner... I'm not getting instant thoughts of "must upgrade" with the new model Edit: although I may sit on the R12 out of curiosity
@waynemarlow8157
@waynemarlow8157 9 ай бұрын
Prefer looks of older R9T, that R12 looks so cool...
@danielgielchinsky6951
@danielgielchinsky6951 9 ай бұрын
R12 hearkens back to the R1200C? Both bikes featured here are beautiful.
@yorkchris10
@yorkchris10 9 ай бұрын
LLooks like a pulled spoke won't damage rim. Looking forward to tales from the road
@vstm3950
@vstm3950 9 ай бұрын
Just wonder where do you see smootheness in this engine? 😂 smoking strong dope boy
@bfarm44
@bfarm44 9 ай бұрын
Love that green myself
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