New Anti-Consumer MacBook Pros - Teardown And Repair Assessment - Apple Silicon M1/M2

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Hugh Jeffreys

Hugh Jeffreys

9 ай бұрын

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@bAssisTowo
@bAssisTowo 9 ай бұрын
Apple: Boasts about self repair Also apple: Makes it f*cking impossible to repair anything by yourself
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 9 ай бұрын
Apple and their fanbase's hipocrisy.
@GreenSwede
@GreenSwede 9 ай бұрын
Their self repair problem was only implemented to make regulations calm down a bit. Apple clearly doesn't give a shit.
@TechyBen
@TechyBen 9 ай бұрын
They can help you not replace a ribbon cable by not supplying it and then helping the laptop self destruct when the slightest fault happens on the ribbon cable and it sends 60v to all the important low voltage parts. Apple: "Glad we could help!"
@koushuu
@koushuu 9 ай бұрын
It's because not many people really care about Right to repairs - until their devices are actually broken. Apples don't grow on human kindness and humility - they only grow on profitability and capitalism.
@ekoprasetiyo
@ekoprasetiyo 9 ай бұрын
Well all those to pleased so called investors + bankers. They must keep pumping money to them, by milking the customer ofcourse. The final target is for you to rent hardware & subscribe for software+services
@adamhafiddin9564
@adamhafiddin9564 9 ай бұрын
The "pro" is a short for "prohibited for diy repair"
@ghostofdre
@ghostofdre 9 ай бұрын
😂 it's funny because it's true.
@many029s
@many029s 9 ай бұрын
honestly besides battery and ports, what other components would you even expect to have to diy repair
@kuroshin7685
@kuroshin7685 9 ай бұрын
Even Pro repair guy still can't fix those peace of sh*t
@neolordie
@neolordie 9 ай бұрын
@@many029s anything that breaks, screen, trackpad, keyboard
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 9 ай бұрын
​@@many029sssd Ram wifi ? Those don't exist for you ?
@nopenope8418
@nopenope8418 8 ай бұрын
I must say that, watching this with my friend who's a genuine onboard systems engineer for planes (the guy designs planes' computer boards ans makes the systems work with the avionics) both him and I were shocked at how much effort and complex engineering went into making this laptop "single-use" and actually hard to nigh-impossible to repair. Even going further than removing the case cover requires extreme care as there are only metal surfaces pressure or friction fitted on other metal surfaces with a metal plate and screws to secure it instead of cables and plugs. The minutia needed to assemble or disassemble the thing is puzzling compared to literally any other laptop both my friend and I have ever seen opened or fiddled with.
@salossi
@salossi 7 ай бұрын
This is just scam to the customer. Never ever again will I buy any Apple product.
@ibendover4817
@ibendover4817 4 ай бұрын
I used to open my laptop up just for fun and clean it every year back when I used windows machines. Even early macbooks. But this is the first time a disassembly video triggered my gag reflexes and gave me anxiety. These design practices should be criminal with how much these machines cost and how critical they are in many people's daily lives.
@kiralight6098
@kiralight6098 9 ай бұрын
I still can't wrap my head around the idea that there are people who go out of their way to defend a company like apple unpaid.
@rawmaterials3909
@rawmaterials3909 9 ай бұрын
It's because they like the idea of being part of a technological elite. So they think. They still don't understand that the only club they're joining is the dumb club.
@someone2506
@someone2506 9 ай бұрын
It's an ego and delusion thing - "i need/deserve the status symbol. I'm too brilliant and my opinions are important to many (self perceived-delusion). It's impossible for me to be in the wrong, furthermore when people show they trust me (either genuine or delusional confirmation bias)." Then they proceed to unknowingly try and change the narrative to fit their self-perceived brilliance and social status. You see the same with fashion and certain car/brands, all falls into the category of status-symbol property.
@Dropz_RSA
@Dropz_RSA 9 ай бұрын
It’s the ecosystem 😂
@davidkachel
@davidkachel 9 ай бұрын
@@Dropz_RSA Or perhaps, the echo system.
@johnlarro6872
@johnlarro6872 9 ай бұрын
My first computer was a 2nd hand Mac Classic, purchased in 1991. I defended Apple to all my PC friends (was just me and 1 other kid who owned Apples), citing how much better they were, better products, better OS. I repeated that mantra for decades... but no longer. I don't see any Mac made in the past 5 years that I would want to buy. When my current Mac reaches its end of life, I'm guessing I'll either be looking at a Hacintosh running the last Intel friendly MacOS... or... or... *shrug* Maybe I'll just go sit in a park and talk to the pigeons.
@callistoroll
@callistoroll 9 ай бұрын
Everyone losing their minds because USB-C comes to iPhone 10 years late, meanwhile Apple pulls another sneaky one on us.
@keijijohnson9754
@keijijohnson9754 9 ай бұрын
I’m not. I’m actually the only person that’s forward to it replacing the lightning connector. And this MacBook Pro’s been out for A YEAR now, it’s crazy that it’s taken him THIS long to get to it.
@gamingglatiator69
@gamingglatiator69 9 ай бұрын
I mean they are forced by the eu to use usb c on the iPhone
@renofumi28
@renofumi28 9 ай бұрын
WRONG! USB C was invented in 2014. Not even 10 years, Liar.
@lazyinvadershiya8320
@lazyinvadershiya8320 9 ай бұрын
Even with the usb-c coming to iPhone if you want any kind of fast charging you still gotta buy Apple approved usb-c cables
@soulfiregod
@soulfiregod 9 ай бұрын
​@@lazyinvadershiya8320 Actually, the EU thought of that and made that sort of thing illegal.
@Lappmogel
@Lappmogel 8 ай бұрын
Its fascinating how we went from cost cutting measures (rivets and glue instead of screws etc) making things harder to repair to cost increasing measures (way more screws and types of screws then needed) making things harder to repair.
@omar0rivera714
@omar0rivera714 8 ай бұрын
Yea its called greed XD they know a loyal apple customer will pay for the products XD us poor people out here try to be " cool " cause they have an iphone XD Android all the way
@Gibeah
@Gibeah 8 ай бұрын
all the screws cut from proper uses were rededicated to screwing the customer over.
@amitbikram9031
@amitbikram9031 8 ай бұрын
android is no differant. they are slowing following apple@@omar0rivera714
@vcodxxbeastv633
@vcodxxbeastv633 8 ай бұрын
​@@omar0rivera714fr apple customers are stupid😂
@frank3134
@frank3134 8 ай бұрын
Well done. I've been working on Apple computers since the Mac 128k. It's so hard to see people get fooled by this awful company. The stories I can tell. Job well done, keep em coming
@CelesteWuff
@CelesteWuff 9 ай бұрын
"These laptops fail to sleep. Doctors call this insomnia" Top tier line right there
@Kitten_Cat333
@Kitten_Cat333 9 ай бұрын
Hahahaah
@Mullins117
@Mullins117 9 ай бұрын
wow i saw you in the wild its mullz btw
@CelesteWuff
@CelesteWuff 9 ай бұрын
@@Mullins117 Lmfao wsg
@tactileslut
@tactileslut 9 ай бұрын
I used to have an app on my old MacBookPro called Insomnia which allowed it to run while closed.
@volttheprotogen1893
@volttheprotogen1893 9 ай бұрын
@@CelesteWuff oo hello a fellow furry
@BriBCG
@BriBCG 9 ай бұрын
Soldering components and not allowing 'unverified parts' is bad enough, but making things glitch out for no good reason to make the person think they failed the repair is next level anti consumer.
@Shineinpoverty
@Shineinpoverty 8 ай бұрын
I disagree. It is pure genius. If you can come up with stuff like that, you will most likely become the top laptop making company
@thespud1094
@thespud1094 8 ай бұрын
@@Shineinpovertyno.
@User-ot1cg
@User-ot1cg 8 ай бұрын
@@Shineinpovertythats crazy because apple laptops suck. you can get a WAYYYYY better laptop for that price
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 8 ай бұрын
@@User-ot1cg Yet watch Apple profits soar because idiots keep buying it anyway.
@harrisonlewis6093
@harrisonlewis6093 8 ай бұрын
​@@thespud1094he's not saying it's right, but it is smart
@KouroshFarrokhzad
@KouroshFarrokhzad 8 ай бұрын
Beautifully done video, exposing Apple's horrrific anti-consumer practices. We all benefit from investigative videos such as this, thank you for your valuable efforts.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 8 ай бұрын
Wish more potential buyers of MacBooks would see this and realize how unrepairable they are. smh
@nopants3560
@nopants3560 5 ай бұрын
All their new phones are required by law to have USB charging and user replaceable battery.
@YG-wk7qm
@YG-wk7qm 7 күн бұрын
I feel like there is a separate anti repair team doing everything to make it impossible to repair
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup 9 ай бұрын
Screen repair started dying when horrible quality factory rejects were the only screens available. Back in 2011 it was still possible to buy LG boxes that said A on the side. A few years later, only grade 9 and 5. Now it's literally total garbage if you want LCD cells by themselves. They're unusable if you care about the quality you're giving customers.
@HughJeffreys
@HughJeffreys 9 ай бұрын
Now it doesn't matter what grade screen you buy, they will have the same defect without Apples calibration...
@TheTheSssupermario
@TheTheSssupermario 9 ай бұрын
Planned obsolescence.
@dorbie
@dorbie 9 ай бұрын
That's bad but gets even more ridiculous when even Apple refuse to replace a screen on a high end iMac Pro, as happened in the LTT fiasco.
@KamilDevonish
@KamilDevonish 9 ай бұрын
Watching this video reminds me of that scene from that old Redford film Sneakers. The team tracks the macguffin to a toy factory that has laser trip wires and electrified fences. Redford says 'the whole building screams "go away". From the moment you start opening that laptop, every single step is unambiguously discouraging you from continuing. It's laughable and I had no idea it was this bad.
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 9 ай бұрын
I went through 2 or 3 U2711s until they got me one without dust/dirt in the panel. All the LG stuff back in 2011 had it in professional screens, it was ridiculous. Because Crapple bought up all the A grade stuff..
@coolersmoke
@coolersmoke 9 ай бұрын
Great video, Hugh. 35 years in IT and I still cannot understand why people are so fiercely loyal to a company that fleeces its customers and sticks its middle finger up at the independent repair industry. It just makes no sense to me.
@Anton-tf9iw
@Anton-tf9iw 9 ай бұрын
That's rational, only using pure brain. Apple groupies run on emotions, prestige etc.
@TheKb117
@TheKb117 9 ай бұрын
Apple targets the normies, the creatives who are non-techies. Especially for those who want an ecosystem that just works, even at a premium price. Price also factors in in catering to the hipsters.😁🤑
@jasonoreilly2795
@jasonoreilly2795 9 ай бұрын
The word you're looking for is "Retards"
@jozefbania
@jozefbania 9 ай бұрын
Thats like mercedes owners and other crap for the rich. Look I have apple I am rich. Nothing else. Status icon for retards.
@BryantAvant
@BryantAvant 9 ай бұрын
​@@hakhaimoit makes no sense?..... 3 Trillion.
@4epa1012
@4epa1012 3 ай бұрын
I love this argument: Apple is the Best! - Why? Because it's Apple!😂
@MrCMDTE
@MrCMDTE 3 ай бұрын
The last Apple product I bought was the Ipod Shuffle and I will never in my life buy a new Apple product. Great content Hugh. This is not pro-consumer actions.
@sl5311
@sl5311 2 ай бұрын
I quit them when my 8 year old son charged $400 of games on our credit card, by himself, and Apple said oh too bad.
@brettgrieves
@brettgrieves 9 ай бұрын
As an IT hardware reseller and support company, this is the exact reason I stopped buying or recommending any Apple products. Ive ditched my iphone, got rid of my Macbook Air 2013. Never will i go back to Apple unless they change these working practices. Great video!
@brettgrieves
@brettgrieves 9 ай бұрын
@@Gamersoft1124Pro it was getting old bless it. I've gone Asus Zenbook oled I've got no regrets.
@UloPe
@UloPe 9 ай бұрын
LOL the „junk“ in this video is the best computer I’ve ever owned. Who gives a shit if the screen is hard to replace. With Apple care it’s their problem if that ever is necessary.
@Crystalcluster
@Crystalcluster 9 ай бұрын
@@UloPe bro you need to open your eyes. You are what is also called a apple slave. You dont see the problem. Your are exactly what they want you to be. Its literally cheaper to not make the device unrepairable. The only reason apple care exists is because of apples greedy scrumpy stinky ass. It wouldnt need to.
@tlhwraith
@tlhwraith 9 ай бұрын
​@UloPe immediately, that's the problem! The fact you have to use Applecare means you don't actually own it.
@brettgrieves
@brettgrieves 9 ай бұрын
@@UloPe I think youre missing the point. I give a shit as do many other becasuie we have the abilty to fix stuff but Apple wont let us.
@jakthebomb
@jakthebomb 9 ай бұрын
I have performed multiple screen swaps on the 2015 - 2019 MacBook Pros. This is insane that Apple yet again makes things artificially non-repairable. We need regulations that make these practices illegal.
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 9 ай бұрын
also... 6500 USD for a 14 inch 1 terabyte laptop with only 16 gigs of ram LMAO!!
@iamhyoki
@iamhyoki 9 ай бұрын
absolutely
@DerivativeOfLog7
@DerivativeOfLog7 9 ай бұрын
My thought too. This is getting ridiculous, we need regulations to stop trash companies like this from exploiting users this badly. I hope the EU comes up with something given their recent regulations
@_Viking
@_Viking 9 ай бұрын
When people stop buying these computers, then the problem is solved
@DerivativeOfLog7
@DerivativeOfLog7 9 ай бұрын
@@_Viking That's the issue when we're dealing with a company that built a walled garden ecosystem... it just won't happen. So we have to settle for the second best thing, which is regulations
@reggierizaev
@reggierizaev 8 ай бұрын
"I've noticed anomaly on the display - I am not talking about that big notch" 😂
@alexanderhiller883
@alexanderhiller883 8 ай бұрын
Electrical Design Engineer here, I suspect the way to fix the Lid angle sensor (without calibration) would be to attempt the remove or replace the magnet and rotate it until the desired effect appears. It seems they are using a 2 or 3-axis magnetic sensor to observe a diametrically magnetized magnet. If they wanted a better accuracy than 5 degrees (likely manufacturing tolerance of both the magnet and the installation of it into the case) then they would have needed to perform a calibration in any case, so to save money on assembly they just had them place the magnet in without the extra steps of positioning it exactly and performed a software calibration on bootup. The scariest part of this is that now Apple knows how many degrees your screen is open... j/k I can't think of an evil purpose for that other than them spying on how you use your device in order to bombard you with work ads when it angles match your work desk, or blast you with workout or food ads when it's resting on your lap in bed.
@aagamaperla
@aagamaperla 9 ай бұрын
"but after logging in I noticed an anomaly on the display and I'm not talking about that big Notch" killed it right there
@Alazen.
@Alazen. 9 ай бұрын
The notch looks so bad 😂 they call that "design"
@patrickcardon1643
@patrickcardon1643 9 ай бұрын
It's the eye of go... sorry Apple ... watching ... seeing if you try to repair anything THEY own
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 9 ай бұрын
He's an idiot. There are ADDITIONAL screen lines next to the notch.
@GerardMenvussa
@GerardMenvussa 9 ай бұрын
Can't believe they brought this useless eye sore over to laptops as well. I hope other companies don't see this as an exemple to follow >.>
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 9 ай бұрын
One of the most insane things about this laptop, is they used over 100 screws yet decide the keyboard doesn't need a single screw.
@lyianx
@lyianx 9 ай бұрын
Probably because the keyboard is the 3rd most damaged/needing replaced component on a laptop (behind the screen and battery).
@MitchMatrixx
@MitchMatrixx 9 ай бұрын
There is also a flip side to this argument; my 2011 MBP keyboard needed replacing a few years ago, and I thought this would be a really fast fix. It was over 60 microscopic screws. Do I prefer screws over rivets in this scenario? Of course. Are 60+ screws needed to secure a roughly 5"x11" keyboard to the aluminum chassis? And yet this 12 yr old machine is accessible, modular, and upgradeable; and still running 24/7 as an iMessage server to my Linux and Android devices.
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 9 ай бұрын
@@MitchMatrixx windows laptops from that era used clips/tabs that insert into the chassis, basically all you had to do was squeeze the keyboard to get it in or out, I swapped the keyboard on my asus that only cost $20 and took about 5 minutes. Tech really has gone backwards, at least user experience wise, including software such as not having root/admin access on your own devices.
@ambassadorofreee3859
@ambassadorofreee3859 9 ай бұрын
@@vgamesx1 Nah it has not gone backwards, quite the opposite really. This is nothing but complete fucking dipshit fucknuggets deliberately fucking people over because of their silly greed.
@tvuser1
@tvuser1 9 ай бұрын
​@@vgamesx1framework...
@sudiptakiran
@sudiptakiran 8 ай бұрын
Great content!! I traded in my MacBook Pro M1 for ASUS ZenBook 14 i7 last year and never looked back. Same reason I bought a Samsung S23 Ultra for the same money instead of an iPhone 14 Pro Max. Inspite of its build quality I've decided to never again buy Apples products because of its business model.
@DA-ou7hv
@DA-ou7hv 8 ай бұрын
Great buyer beware content. I will continue to steer clear of Apple with my back close to a wall as I scoot by their retail outlets. At the price points you mentioned and what you showed, looks like a pretty raw deal - given the flimsy cables, sticky battery etc.
@thanos879
@thanos879 9 ай бұрын
Imagine if we didn't have the internet to publicly call out these companies.. We would be living in a dystopian society already. Keep doing what you do man 👍. And shout out to the EU for putting Apple in it's place.
@dan_youtube
@dan_youtube 9 ай бұрын
Ikr, this and the fact that I don't have 2 grand to drop will keep me from buying
@Oprenova
@Oprenova 9 ай бұрын
It's already dystopian but i get what you mean
@ItsDoms
@ItsDoms 9 ай бұрын
If We didnt have the internet then there wouldnt be a problem like this in the first place tho
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 9 ай бұрын
Channels like this are cancer. You have no clue about technology and you are fueling your clique on a lie. Apple pairs lid opening sensors due to security reasons, when the lid is closed, the USBC ports are turned off. You can't connect something that will steal data.
@heyhoe168
@heyhoe168 9 ай бұрын
I bet my left ball, companies are thinking hard on this issue right now.
@evilpotatoman9436
@evilpotatoman9436 8 ай бұрын
This man had to remove and place over 200 screws for this demonstration, that's dedication right there.
@chucknorris1815
@chucknorris1815 8 ай бұрын
Dedication? You mean it’s his job to do so
@HelpMeFindMyDad
@HelpMeFindMyDad 8 ай бұрын
He earns millions by doing it
@MaxMax-wc2ms
@MaxMax-wc2ms 8 ай бұрын
Maybe would be legit to look at the perverts that designed themselves the computer, fitting as much as 200 screws to it.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 8 ай бұрын
Did you see those muscles on his you hand?? ha-ha
@mainaccount4585
@mainaccount4585 7 ай бұрын
@@HelpMeFindMyDad proof?
@CultOfMonika
@CultOfMonika 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see a collaboration between Apple,John Deere and Tesla
@jooct31
@jooct31 8 ай бұрын
These pricey laptops are quite pathetic from a durable and sustainable point of view. In stead of the "Right To Repair", Apple says: "Never mind The Repair". Thanks Hugh for this research and showing the evidence!
@riblaglaunti1719
@riblaglaunti1719 9 ай бұрын
"You buy it, we own it" - Apple
@cosminandreimatei756
@cosminandreimatei756 9 ай бұрын
"F*CK you, pay me" - also Apple
@SlartiMarvinbartfast
@SlartiMarvinbartfast 9 ай бұрын
Hope this goes into the Apple buyer's collective - it's so incredibly accurate.
@FonXHunter
@FonXHunter 9 ай бұрын
Ferrari vibe)
@cosminandreimatei756
@cosminandreimatei756 9 ай бұрын
@@FonXHunter You mean that also Ferrari does this?
@SkitsAndStuff11
@SkitsAndStuff11 9 ай бұрын
oh, and pay rent
@yo.adrian
@yo.adrian 9 ай бұрын
At this point, I'm just wondering why Apple puts screws on their laptops and just glue everything shut since it's not upgradable?
@hishnash
@hishnash 9 ай бұрын
The use screws as they do a lot of refurbishment. I you get a replacement laptop under warranty it is not a new laptop just a new case with a refurbished internals. This saves apple lots and lots of $$$ since they do not need to direct a new device for warranty replacement instead it's just a new case and glass but refurbished internals. Apple are intact rather good with using screws in products, many other vendors prefer the cheaper plastic clips etc that while they are easy to open once or twice as the device ages and suffers thermal cycles the plastic becomes brittle and snaps.
@johnnycheung5536
@johnnycheung5536 9 ай бұрын
You're not being courageous enough. Glue is so 19th century. Make every MacBook phone home such that the moment you _try_ to disassemble the laptop, it calls the cops on you and informs them that you're running a child trafficking ring out of it. And Apple's doing it _for your own protection and safety!_
@Traderhorn
@Traderhorn 9 ай бұрын
Nice video and information, will buy a Windows computer less of a rip off and monopoly on repair costs as Apple does.
@hishnash
@hishnash 9 ай бұрын
@@Traderhorn Depends a good amount on what OEM you go with, also in value for money it also depends on what you are doing, for many use cases apples laptops are now very competitive in cost with respect to the perfomance you get. Videos highlighting issues with apples laptops are common but that does not mean other vendors do not have these same types of issues just means they do not collect as many clicks on YT so do no get promoted as much by the algorithm.
@whizyp
@whizyp 9 ай бұрын
​@@hishnashCan somebody tell me why can't I run my PC games and Siemens Simatic Manager PLC on my brand new M1 Pro MacBook. 😢 Are they didn't compatible?
@shakeemsymonds7362
@shakeemsymonds7362 8 ай бұрын
The ammount of work you have to go through just to take this apart is astounding.
@Johnson217
@Johnson217 8 ай бұрын
We're going backwards in time...firearms used to be made in batches of the same shape as their siblings, but each one was made by hand and the parts weren't interchangeable...
@jacobperez8921
@jacobperez8921 9 ай бұрын
Louis Rossman recently discussed the problem with Apple's decisions like soldering SSDs with the newer Mac computers and i agree with him in that these newer machines will end up being e-waste at a much earlier time than older serviceable Mac computers.
@jani0077
@jani0077 9 ай бұрын
the SSD problem isn't just an Apple problem. My workplace Thinkpad X1 has also soldered parts, which aren't really repairable when a failure occures. This is becoming more a high-end laptop category manufacturing standard.
@peterpan408
@peterpan408 9 ай бұрын
More of an Ultrabook trend. Workstations are supposed to be upgradable.
@jani0077
@jani0077 9 ай бұрын
@@peterpan408 The thinkpad x1 is a high-end workstation, and it still has almost no upgradability.
@fix0the0spade
@fix0the0spade 9 ай бұрын
5 years or so, 3 if it's in a heavy use environment. That's the kicker of SSDs, they all fail and if it's soldered in place it puts a hard lifespan on the machine it's part of. The value of used M-series macs is going to crater when people start to realise. Weird to think that 2015 was truly the last year of good Macbook Pros for professional use.
@verygoodbrother
@verygoodbrother 9 ай бұрын
@@jani0077 false equivalence. The X1 has replaceable SSD, WIFI card and WAN. Only the ram is not replaceable. None are true for latest Macbooks. There is also no software locks like Apple
@TheWatchmaker
@TheWatchmaker 9 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but it seems to me that Apple's budget to avoid having their hardware repaired by third parties, whether it's iPhones or MacBooks and everything else, must be several times higher than what they invest in R&D...
@asteroidrules
@asteroidrules 9 ай бұрын
There's considerable overlap between the two, they like developing proprietary components as a means of preventing repairs. The "insomnia" problem is a good example of that, they had to design a completely different method of detecting screen angle specifically to make it harder to repair.
@internetghost-jq6fz
@internetghost-jq6fz 9 ай бұрын
what do u mean... these computers are hyper efficient machines that sip power and still deliver amazing performance..
@kevikiru
@kevikiru 9 ай бұрын
This is delusional. They spend 20 Billion on R&D
@qwertykeyboard5901
@qwertykeyboard5901 9 ай бұрын
Capitalism is fucking weird.
@hishnash
@hishnash 9 ай бұрын
Apple is not putting any active effort into making it harder to repair it is just that they do not consider third party repair at all during design. So choices are made just based on reducing cost, increasing production yields, reducing production lead times etc.
@ChristianBehnke
@ChristianBehnke 8 ай бұрын
They're such fine machines... with such incredible frustration inside.
@kiiikoooPT
@kiiikoooPT 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if the ports with ribbon cables are going to still work if replaced or if it also needs calibrating. Would not be surprised if they need.
@isra.128
@isra.128 9 ай бұрын
It still amazes me that people are aware of apples anti repair and greediness yet still buy their products.
@volvo09
@volvo09 9 ай бұрын
My brother went the apple route about 6 years ago when he got married. I always was the family "computer guy" because I did it as a job, but I told him I am not touching any apple repairs, you're stuck with apple. And of course he's spent multiple thousands and extra trips to the "genius bar" getting new phones, tablets, or computers after a drop, or a drink gets knocked onto the laptop while chasing after a baby. The result is always the same "I'll just get a new one because fixing it costs way too much" .
@bikeman7982
@bikeman7982 9 ай бұрын
I'm not going to defend Apple, but I like the products so I keep buying them. I never cracked a screen or caused other damage that needed repair. I've had Apple replace a few worn out batterries. However, I do hope the governments will force Apple to make their products easily repairable.
@ahmadahmal2942
@ahmadahmal2942 9 ай бұрын
@@bikeman7982 Apple and other big companies actually control your so called "governments".... Its all who has the most money to lobby congress/parlament to pass bills and laws. Have fun with your so called "freedoms" XD
@bezolsmate
@bezolsmate 9 ай бұрын
I mean I use an iPhone but I’m not the type of person to crack my screen immediately after buying it. I can usually go a solid 3-4 years on one phone until my carrier begs me to upgrade
@bliglum
@bliglum 9 ай бұрын
Don't you see. Things like this make that type of person even MORE enamored with the product! The more infamously expensive, difficult and costly to maintain, etc. the more of a status symbol the object becomes... Similar to a BMW that way. It's just a car.. But because it has that expensive badge, and is infamously expensive to maintain, people will often live beyond their means, to 'flex' their fake richness. Climbing out of their overpriced BMW, with an overpriced Starbucks coffee in one hand, and an overpriced Apple device in the other..
@TheCod3r
@TheCod3r 9 ай бұрын
It's so sad how anti consumer is actually a feature Apple thinks about during the design phase these days
@iluvpandas2755
@iluvpandas2755 8 ай бұрын
yeah
@a.a.6132
@a.a.6132 6 ай бұрын
I own Apple Macbook 16 Pro M1. After about a year of owning it, the screen turned black. I did not use it every day. It has not been dropped or abused. I never had any bad experience with windows 10/11 computers. This is going to be my last Apple Macbook unless they make them user friendly and easy to repair. I had very reliable iphone 6 and ipads.
@Valariel
@Valariel 8 ай бұрын
I love the idea of the Framework laptop. Planning on getting one for my next laptop.
@Josh_dbg
@Josh_dbg 8 ай бұрын
When you swap the displays they look and act "broken", but both act "broken" in the exact way. And, of course, when swapped back they function just fine. Apple's already been caught intentionally crippling old hardware, why wouldnt they design their hardware to pretend to be broken if someone other than them tries to repair it?
@dreamwav_core
@dreamwav_core 8 ай бұрын
more money, thats it.
@alexhajnal107
@alexhajnal107 8 ай бұрын
In a sane world you'd put an EPROM in the display if it needed special calibration. Instead they're putting a unique ID on the PROM. In a truly sensible world (i.e. the world of non-Apple displays) the controller in the display panel handles such things itself (if they're even needed), completely transparent to the OS.
@Daunlouded
@Daunlouded 9 ай бұрын
Basically Apple is still the unbeatable master at manufacturing e-waste. Most common repairs excluding battery replacements are probably broken screens and keyboards, now both of them are pretty much impossible to do - at least not with reasonable cost.
@dinesh_k7651
@dinesh_k7651 9 ай бұрын
I saw that the Eu passed a law stating that from 2027 almost everything having a battery such as smartphones will have to be easily replaceable / removable
@Jan-xf8sk
@Jan-xf8sk 8 ай бұрын
​@@dinesh_k7651thanks to EU to force Apple to do away with some of their anti-consumer practices.
@Joaquin77
@Joaquin77 8 ай бұрын
I saw a video where theperson explained that with the Catalina update, it scanned all serial numbers on every component so in case you swap the parts and serials don't match it makes the part unusable. Therefore I still use my High Sierra running on my 2015 macbook pro to be able to swap parts in the future.
@alexanderbanman9288
@alexanderbanman9288 8 ай бұрын
Informative video! I'm not a tech buff but I learned a lot.
@96ethanh
@96ethanh 9 ай бұрын
Apple probably hates Hugh Jeffreys at this point. Release a new locked down device.. and immediately get called out. Good work, Hugh.
@EvilTurkeySlices
@EvilTurkeySlices 9 ай бұрын
Not that they seem to care much.
@gdutfulkbhh7537
@gdutfulkbhh7537 9 ай бұрын
Well, I hate Apple at this point.
@scotty562
@scotty562 9 ай бұрын
I doubt the people spending this much on a laptop are going to caree. If it doesn't break in the warranty period they'll just get a new one.
@armamentarmedarm1699
@armamentarmedarm1699 9 ай бұрын
Countdown to tax lien...
@JustAPersonWhoComments
@JustAPersonWhoComments 9 ай бұрын
Apple's new MacBook Pros: When spending $2000 on a laptop feels like buying a ticket to a very expensive roller coaster of repairs and mysteries
@patrickcardon1643
@patrickcardon1643 9 ай бұрын
For that money you get a fully decked out Frameworks laptop WITH all the spare parts for repair lol
@furstenfeldbruck
@furstenfeldbruck 8 ай бұрын
i'm more impressed by how you didn't lose a screw
@shaynebethanyiles3074
@shaynebethanyiles3074 5 ай бұрын
Hey Hugh! Just watched through this after taking apart one myself. The trackpad needs to be replaced on the one I looked at and I ordered one. Did you end up doing tests to see if those are programmed to a different piece of hardware or if they can be interchanged with no issues?
@orchetect7415
@orchetect7415 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the bravery of opening these units and doing all the swaps. Must have been an extremely tedious trial of patience.
@MrSyNRG
@MrSyNRG 8 ай бұрын
No kidding right... not a task for the faint of heart. The effort is commendable however because the results have been QUITE eye opening...
@vak2586
@vak2586 8 ай бұрын
Lookat ALL those *goddamn* screws!
@Soawano
@Soawano 9 ай бұрын
At this point it looks like Apple test us out : how much anti-consumer practices we can do and get away with it.
@alis.2
@alis.2 8 ай бұрын
limitless when there are so many sheep worshippers in the world who are unable to create identities without showing of expensive devices. pathetic sheeps
@RockG.o.d
@RockG.o.d 8 ай бұрын
@@hundredfireify it doesn't surprise me that it is the students first choice. windows laptops lack in a lot of areas for the user interface.
@coolersmoke
@coolersmoke 8 ай бұрын
@@RockG.o.d Only in the USA. The global market is 15% MacOS and 75% Windows, the rest mostly Linux and Chrome.
@theengineer2017
@theengineer2017 8 ай бұрын
@@RockG.o.d Im sure there would be more teens and young adults using Windows laptops for school if Windows did not stop Windows 7 cause 7 was out for a long time and everyone knew how to use 7
@RockG.o.d
@RockG.o.d 8 ай бұрын
@@theengineer2017 doubt it. You use a Mac and just feel how intuitive it is to use, then you use an iPhone and see how seamlessly they both work together, then you look at a comparable windows laptop and think, there isn’t really anything which compares to it. Trackpads on windows machines, though getting a lot better, are still a disappointment, where as Mac trackpads have been unbeaten for a long time. The battery life usually lasts all day without problems. The only real disappointing thing about apple is their lack of care for the environment. Sure for a company they do the right thing in terms of manufacturing, but they still care more for their shareholder profits than reducing landfill of end products. I still have a 2012 MacBook which is used, and also a 2017 retina model and a newer 2021 model. The first 2 have some repairability, and the latest one has the least. Didn’t need soldered in ssd, we know why they did it, though they may say otherwise.
@johnmitchel1
@johnmitchel1 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for taking your time to make this amazing Video I really enjoyed it 👍
@sergeykish
@sergeykish 7 ай бұрын
I often update family computers RAM as it usually first that hits limits. I've thought soldered RAM was bad but this is beyond imaginable.
@walpoleandworcester
@walpoleandworcester 9 ай бұрын
It’s sadly the way many of these products are going. I’m even seeing this issue with new cars as well and all the electronics that they come with. Lots of scams out there with extended warranties in that space. There are even brands trying to charge a monthly subscription just to use certain features it’s insane! Would be nice to get a video at some point about right to repair and how it applies to the automotive industry. Keep up the great work Hugh!
@readmore7180
@readmore7180 9 ай бұрын
The automotive industry (in Europe anyway) already has laws regarding this. The are a few caveats yes but essentially anyone can repair their car and still be covered under warranty etc as long as you use genuine parts within the warranty period. With regards to the subscription based functions, not sure what people are complaining about it's a good thing as most of these functions people don't generally spec their car with anyway, so you are getting the opportunity to have say, heated seats for the few months you might need them when before you would have probably left it off the specs sheet completely. If you want to spec the car with full time heated seats you still can. It's a non issue made up by people that just want to have a reason to be pissed off imo...
@sorenalexanderholtzer9270
@sorenalexanderholtzer9270 9 ай бұрын
@@readmore7180If I paid several thousand euros extra for heated seats I want to be able to turn them on/off whenever I want. Having a paid subscription for that is just corporate greed and a way to make money continually from things sold once. Maybe in the future the car keys will be a blockchain ETF where you pay say 10% to the manufacturer everytime the car is sold. 😅
@TheGuilha11
@TheGuilha11 9 ай бұрын
@@readmore7180 ur so brainwashed u dont even realise leaving it out of spec?? u already payed for the hardware now u have to pay a montly subscription in order to use it???. montly susbcriptions are for services. blocking ur own hardware from being used by its owner is literally agaisnt the law. Plus i developt parts in the automtotive let me tell u a thing or two about repair parts = non existent badly manufactured to min legal spec non lasting with the sole porpuse enlarging the commerce of the industry that creates it.
@walpoleandworcester
@walpoleandworcester 9 ай бұрын
@@readmore7180 that’s great to hear. Thanks for clarifying what that subscription stuff was really about. It was more or less something I heard about in headlines and it’s easy for people to put out clickbait out there. When it looked that up again, it was something about BMW and heated seats so good point. Anyway, it’s fascinating how much these issues affect other industries and what other countries have done to solve the problem from what you’ve described. The US needs to take a note there.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 9 ай бұрын
It mostly concerns electric cars with propiertary software and hardware
@fexcelix
@fexcelix 9 ай бұрын
I admire your patience! With the screws and everything!
@WEDZMERMUNJILUL
@WEDZMERMUNJILUL 8 ай бұрын
This is unfortunately true. I have an MBP 16" M1 Max and my monitor broke when my pen cover hit it when it flew as I was trying to get it off. Searched the web for some ways to replace the monitor and found a similar issue as in this video. So, I took it back to Apple for repair and it cost $1000 just to replace the broken LCD since they had to replace the whole panel. What's disappointing is that you have to surrender your broken LCD too or else you'd pay an additional $200.
@LeoN-wc9od
@LeoN-wc9od 8 ай бұрын
Look at the bright side, no one‘s going to steal your laptop for parts.
@Manojspidey18
@Manojspidey18 9 ай бұрын
The amount of money and time you have put in to this video cannot be explained by words just a regular laptop takes a lot of time to take apart and put together. But apple makes always difficult for users to do it themselves. Much appreciated by your work. Hope you wi reach 1M before end of this year. You need a huge shoutout mate
@stargazer3828
@stargazer3828 9 ай бұрын
Actually REWA figured out the issue after doing the same test. They had to remove the bottom trim from both the original LCDs and unsolder two IC Chips then swap them and re-solder them in the replacement LCD. After doing so the LCDs worked fine without any programming from Apple. It is still ridiculous that Apple does this and I hope it gets outlawed soon as it just creates more electronic waste.
@zt9233
@zt9233 8 ай бұрын
Hugh are their laptops that are a good alternative to the macbooks that you do recommend that are close if not equivalent or even better that are actually repairable?
@Rosalies_
@Rosalies_ 8 ай бұрын
Great analysis. Super frustrating practices from Apple. Why can’t QC and consumer-friendly practices go hand-in-hand? Working university IT atm and we’re severely disappointed with HP, which used to be Windows’ high-level gold standard.
@tylsim
@tylsim 9 ай бұрын
I’ve saved five retina-era MacBook Pros of friends/family with DIY repairs - one SSD failure, one screen burned out, one screen broken from accidental damage, two battery replacements. A couple of these occurred around the 3 year mark - and those devices got another 4 or 5 years of use after repair. It’s really sad the efforts Apple has put into preventing affordable DIY repair going forward. I hope the EU can put them back into their place as a device manufacturer, not the lifetime owner of the devices they sell.
@Geekhobby
@Geekhobby 9 ай бұрын
It´s a pity the people are so stupid that EU have to do something about it.
@jonos138
@jonos138 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention the ever increasing land fill of Apple products in this era of recycling and trying to save the planet. Apple is doing the opposite out of greed.
@merlin_V2
@merlin_V2 9 ай бұрын
I love how americans are realizing pure capitalism sucks and turn to the EU to do the socialism for them. keep it up! Maybe one day you also get free healthcare. 😉
@theshadowman1398
@theshadowman1398 9 ай бұрын
This should be totally illegal on personal computers
@Darkness251
@Darkness251 8 ай бұрын
Props to you for removing hundreds of screws for this video. Must've taken forever.
@RobertERider
@RobertERider 8 ай бұрын
Love the soundtrack. A cross between Miami Vice and Baywatch.
@Junkyard_Dawg
@Junkyard_Dawg 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate coverage like this. Bringing these issues to light might stop someone from making a purchase of one of these devices, now having that knowledge.
@TomAllnatt
@TomAllnatt 8 ай бұрын
But the blue bubbles!!! Hahaha
@lukereiner
@lukereiner 8 ай бұрын
im convinced
@syclone
@syclone 8 ай бұрын
If only... the target customers will just listen to some influencer talking about performance figures in comparison to other apple hardware. They're incapable of understanding what they are actually buying.
@Blit-X-TVLive
@Blit-X-TVLive 8 ай бұрын
Apple has been practicing scummy tactics for long enough now for people to be aware of it & I bet most do, they just don't care! Look at the comment section. Even some of the ones who complain are still indoctrinated & secretly still give up their wallet at any new Apple product.
@tancyew
@tancyew 8 ай бұрын
@@syclone have u tried using macbook once vs other top-notch windows based laptop without plugging in cable to charge it constantly? you will realize why people buy it. unless arm chip is coming to windows laptop soon, macbook still have edge over intel/amd due to the power efficient chip.
@NGC-6302
@NGC-6302 9 ай бұрын
I work IT for a school district and had to repair one of the new Macbook Air M2s and saying those are anti repair is a joke- They're repair hostile. The first one I took apart I managed to cut my hand pretty seriously on the back panel, dripping blood on the ground type of cut. It also took my entire team multiple days to get the back panel on after we'd removed it for the first time. And we went through Apple's official training. Though I'll never be able to stop thinking about "single use heatsink". They aren't kidding- you can only use each heat sink once. If you have to remove it there is NO way to do so without destroying it.
@gustru2078
@gustru2078 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's why most of us in IT (At least those working for large companies) hate macs and don't want anything to do with those expensive pieces of shit. Always something that doesn't work, always something that breaks and isn't easily repairable or replaceable to keep the user's downtime to a minimum, there's always something it's not compatible with, requiring you to do the same job twice juuuuuust for the damn macs, the OS doesn't let you do what you need to do, no Active Directory and the list goes on. Just a fucking nightmare to work with. That's why companies usually go for all Windows laptops. Not Linux, not Mac OS. Windows. I work for a university that has several thousand employees. We don't have time to waste on that garbage, though we still have to cope with ignorant students and professors who use macs but we sure as hell don't touch anything remotely related to repairs. We help them do what they're trying to do but it stops there. We ain't gonna fix their macs, they gotta go somewhere else for that cause those computers don't belong to the university in question. It's their personal laptop and it's not our problem they decided to buy that.
@NGC-6302
@NGC-6302 8 ай бұрын
Oh no, I'm not arguing for Macs. Though admittedly I don't think I'd argue for Windows either. Either way is so much headache and bullshit- I worked for Dell doing warranty service for a year and if I ever have to touch an Optiplex 5080 again it's going to be to hurl the piece of shit out of the window. All the universities in my area love the giant bastards and they're all 18 tons and they all take ages to get apart, and they all sucked. And the Precisions (7560...) haunt my nightmares. I've cut my hand on some of THOSE too, and I wanna say a high end latitude with an aluminum chassis. I have a hard time remembering any of it because I spent most of it in a stress-and-insomnia induced fugue state. It all sucks. I love computers, I love my work, but some days make me consider becoming Amish.
@gustru2078
@gustru2078 8 ай бұрын
@@NGC-6302 Yeah I know you weren't advocating for macs, just sharing my experience of having to deal with those. I've handled quite a few Optiplex too and they were the ones from the early 2000s. Yeah they weigh 18 tons and they're way more annoying to work inside of than any custom-made PC, there's no question about that. I'd still rather have every single computer be a DELL Optiplex than a mac. Nothing is perfect in this world. I also was around when HP fucked up their Pavilion laptops in the late 2000s. There was a design flaw that caused a solder to literally melt near the CPU and fried the motherboard. Even if the computer was still under warranty and physical damage had been caused by users who btw all had the exact same issue, HP wouldn't want to repair it under warranty. If you wanted that "fixed", the entire motherboard had to be replaced and it cost around $500, almost the full price of those laptops. I kinda miss the time when Elitebooks and Probooks were actually good. Took 5 seconds to open and everything was readily accessible. Took 2 minutes to get to the keyboard and you didn't have to take the entire computer apart. They were designed to be easily and quickly repairable under warranty by any authorized repair shop, was super easy to order replacement parts and it would take a few days at most for the customer to get their laptop back unlike the pavilions which had to be sent to HP for like a month cause HP was adamant about not wanting to provide any parts for the cheap ass best buy / Future shop models.
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 8 ай бұрын
Is the angle sensor paired with the display or with the hinge itself? If it's detecting the orientation of a magnetic field, it's the sensor and the magnet pair that go together. Couldn't tell whether that magnet went with the display or if it was a part of the body of the laptop. Insanity either way.
@vladislavvelizanin5057
@vladislavvelizanin5057 6 ай бұрын
Anti-consumer practices have to be outlawed. If not for the consumers, then at the very least for the environment. But in reality also the consumers deserve not to be ripped off like that
@davidsalmons80
@davidsalmons80 9 ай бұрын
Apples shady business practices are disgusting
@janchristianursuaaguilar7434
@janchristianursuaaguilar7434 9 ай бұрын
time to ban apple products worldwide bruh
@WalterMan
@WalterMan 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it’s a lot more companies than just Apple. Samsung, Microsoft, Google all have their fair share of issues like these
@chilly1661
@chilly1661 9 ай бұрын
@@WalterMannot to this extent
@Mantikal
@Mantikal 9 ай бұрын
It's all about what "Situation" you're in. Situation 01 - regular consumer who wants to DIY - and believes that the device is theirs after purchase. Situation 02 - Stockholder/investor in Apple - and you've asked Apple at the latest investors meeting- and how exactly do you intend to "Lock-In" all those stock dividends that you promised I'd be getting every month?
@PurblePink8678
@PurblePink8678 9 ай бұрын
​@@WalterManMicrosoft started making their Surface laptops more repairable by 2019.
@milk-dog
@milk-dog 9 ай бұрын
It kinda feels like apple is trying to make 3rd party repairers look incompetent with things like the messed up backlight and buggy behavior. I get the same kind of feeling when they disable auto brightness on phones with replaced screens. Its basically malicious compliance with repairs at this point.
@hishnash
@hishnash 9 ай бұрын
The issue is that the device is operating without the backlight calibration, this is to be expected. Mini-led arrays are going to have a large amount of per LED variation (the alternative is throwing away almost all of the backlights you product as once you have thousands of LEDs the chances that all of them behave exactly the same is more or less 0).
@WhatWillYouFind
@WhatWillYouFind 9 ай бұрын
It's basically you will own nothing and you will praise the Feudalist Corporations for the grace of being allowed to touch THEIR devices that sit in your own home.
@egigoka1
@egigoka1 9 ай бұрын
​@@hishnashso, make this info on the display, not in motherboard. Also, patterns are consistent, theres no way its just variation in leds. You sound like a bootlicker.
@Dizrak
@Dizrak 9 ай бұрын
​@@hishnashbut why they are not storing calibration data on the screen itself? It can be done and it won't be overengineering (at leats by apple's standards)
@hishnash
@hishnash 9 ай бұрын
@@Dizrak Costs more to do it this way. 1) the chip on the display needs to have enough storage to store the backlight profile (this is not small) 2) you need an extra step in the production line to flash the profile back onto the screen chip after testing the screen Just having a much cheaper SN chip and saving the profile on a server makes production cheaper. For vendors that have small production runs this change in process is not worth it but for apple who are ordering millions of each display chainng the production process to do this saves money and increases the number of displays they can get made due to making the production simpler.
@larryinc64
@larryinc64 8 ай бұрын
Won't be long until they just put those blue dye packs into their laptops to go off when you open them.
@raspy00135
@raspy00135 8 ай бұрын
If you go this way, use robust glass for the display panel. The current screen is too fragile, it's very easy to make scratches
@alexhajnal107
@alexhajnal107 8 ай бұрын
That's one of my biggest issues with Apple. Their engineering is really poor. Specifically they cut corners in places they really shouldn't such as PSU isolation, case and screen structural integrity, thermals, etc. Everything is designed to *appear* advanced (thin, light, fast) when new but not have any durability, never mind reparability. IOW, with Apple form completely trumps function.
@hyrenaj2888
@hyrenaj2888 9 ай бұрын
Back in the day friends and classmates claimed one of the justifications for the MacBook's high price was its quality and longevity, and it seemed to be so compared to some PC laptops, but these days it seems to very much not be the case...
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 9 ай бұрын
Yeah once the SSD dies these things are e-waste.
@blaser80
@blaser80 9 ай бұрын
Last time I bought a mac was in 2009, you could even replace the battery without removing any screws. I replaced the HDD with an SSD and upgraded the RAM sticks too.
@HarmonicaMustang
@HarmonicaMustang 9 ай бұрын
I had the cheapest 2015 MacBook Pro for audio production at uni. That thing soldiered through massive projects I would not expect Windows (at the time) to handle at the same spec, and it just kept going. I still have it, though I don't have much use for it these days. I wouldn't bother with a MacBook these days if I was in the same situation.
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 9 ай бұрын
​@@HarmonicaMustangI have a 2011 PC that works no blue screen with win 10.
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 9 ай бұрын
Channels like this are cancer. You have no clue about technology and you are fueling your clique on a lie. Apple pairs lid opening sensors due to security reasons, when the lid is closed, the USBC ports are turned off. You can't connect something that will steal data.
@mshaftenberg
@mshaftenberg 9 ай бұрын
Imagine you forgot one screw after you put everything together 🤭😂 Thank you for your videos Hugh, very much needed in these anti-repair/subscription-fee times.
@alles_moegliche73
@alles_moegliche73 9 ай бұрын
every repair is only finished with a spare screw at the end, you didnt know that? 🤭
@stingfiretube
@stingfiretube 9 ай бұрын
Imagine if that glue is also somehow made unique to the machine. Swap the glue, and the machine won't start.
@TehEpicMinecraft
@TehEpicMinecraft 9 ай бұрын
​@@stingfiretubeApple Recruiter: you're Hired
@TCGProductions03
@TCGProductions03 9 ай бұрын
That screw is staying out.
@thomasfischer9259
@thomasfischer9259 4 ай бұрын
Apple at this point is going to start a subscription service to own a macbook.
@parazeet2525
@parazeet2525 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the angle sensor issue makes sense if the little magnet is not positionned the same way on all screens.
@AttorneyBCollins
@AttorneyBCollins 9 ай бұрын
At that price and level of reparability, I won't be a customer anyway. The old joke comes true. "How much to repair the screen?" Repair shop "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 9 ай бұрын
Nonsense I know people with many high end cars luxury stuff that ask how expensive it will be the repair to know if they need to buy a new one. Even if you have money you dont want to be screwed.
@AttorneyBCollins
@AttorneyBCollins 9 ай бұрын
I was referring to the cost being so close to the purchase price.@@Teluric2
@michaelw2263
@michaelw2263 9 ай бұрын
It may seem like a PC master race kind of comment, but I stand by the fact that building your own gives you superior control over changing things. Even in terms of laptops, other brands are far more forgiving for upgrades and repairs. It's just not worth it for the 'environmental' BS Apple puts on if minor or even moderate things can basically turn a 2.5k laptop into e-waste for our environment.
@rosaria8384
@rosaria8384 9 ай бұрын
Nah this one is so true and justified. It's even worse when you see the Mac Pro this year, the modular PC became totally worthless.
@giovannigiorgio42069
@giovannigiorgio42069 9 ай бұрын
I can literally add a brand new stick of RAM into my Dell laptop and not only does it not break, but Dell helps me to rectify any issues caused by adding that stick of RAM in too, granted I've paid for their highest support tier.
@eccodolphin
@eccodolphin 9 ай бұрын
This is why I build my own desktops and when I finally bought a laptop I ended up getting a cheap used Thinkpad from ebay. However, newer ones of even these 'buisiness grade' laptops are getting less and less repairable and I actually have one of the last T series that has the dual batteries. Strongly considering a Framework or something like it if I ever buy a new laptop.
@GeoStreber
@GeoStreber 9 ай бұрын
That's why I have a Framework Laptop and run Linux on it.
@amentco8445
@amentco8445 9 ай бұрын
​@@rosaria8384What the fuck are you talking about?
@joesalgadSF415
@joesalgadSF415 8 ай бұрын
Do you think this will happen to the M1? I’m asking because my screen on my M1 base model have lines and I was gonna buy one from eBay or ifixit and fix it myself.
@EugeneOneguine
@EugeneOneguine 8 ай бұрын
It is CRAZY how much complication they bring to their reasoning for such a petty move. My head is hurting from all the possible ways to damage the computer, that could be very easily repaired, but aren't. It's as if you broke a lightbulb, and needed to pay a digital access code to calibrate a new lightbulb to your lamp, which costs half the price of the lamp.
@jonogrimmer6013
@jonogrimmer6013 9 ай бұрын
Glad you’ve covered this, many are or have been on eBay with this issue. Apple has no reason not to allow people to access the calibration other than to make more money and lockdown repair to only parts they sell you.
@willi-fg2dh
@willi-fg2dh 9 ай бұрын
apple has all the reasons they need . . . they start with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@BrianGlaze
@BrianGlaze 9 ай бұрын
Apple doing stuff like this really should cost them and it's a shame that it doesn't. They need to be heavily regulated because of this
@traviswalker8933
@traviswalker8933 9 ай бұрын
It doesn't. They spend all that money to generate more profits.
@CapApollo
@CapApollo 9 ай бұрын
it cost 0.. since the Idiots pays for it..
@carletonrutherford1799
@carletonrutherford1799 9 ай бұрын
Some people are either too stupid to care, or just don't care until it affects them. I have never, nor will I ever, give apple a penny of my money.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, but the sheep will still happily cough up their $$$
@OrdinaryCritic
@OrdinaryCritic 9 ай бұрын
Why spend taxpayer dollars on regulating Apple when, you know, you could just not buy their products? There are better companies, aren’t there? And you wouldn’t want to look like an Apple sheep if you bought from other companies instead… Why can’t complainers just ditch Apple altogether? It’s the worst anyway.
@janneaalto3956
@janneaalto3956 8 ай бұрын
Each of the last twenty years have made me exponentially happier that way back when, I moved from Atari to IBM-compatibles instead of to Macintosh. If Apple keeps going like they have, I'm gonna live in a state of constant bliss in five years and reach nirvana two years after that.
@garfolino
@garfolino 8 ай бұрын
do you have a video showing how you keep track of the parts and especially the screws when you are removing them? how do you keep organized when working on it?
@garfolino
@garfolino 8 ай бұрын
and as soon as I hit SUBMIT, my question was answered on the video 😂
@CalebEllisComedy
@CalebEllisComedy 9 ай бұрын
Man this makes me glad that I bought a Framework instead of a MacBook. We need Framework to make a phone!
@FlyByWire1
@FlyByWire1 9 ай бұрын
Framework laptop quality is trash, it’s cheap and plastic and the chassis flex is sad
@gt8200-0
@gt8200-0 9 ай бұрын
FairPhone
@omegadaboi
@omegadaboi 9 ай бұрын
@FlyByWire1 look at this apple shill lmfao
@gt8200-0
@gt8200-0 9 ай бұрын
@@FlyByWire1 And is user repairable
@FlyByWire1
@FlyByWire1 9 ай бұрын
@@omegadaboi how does me pointing out the cheap quality of the framework laptop make me a shill? 😂😂😂
@dizzymarta9078
@dizzymarta9078 9 ай бұрын
I see anti repair and i immediately think of Apple anybody else i didnt even tap on the video and i knew it was another apple right to repair issue
@kingjosh4724
@kingjosh4724 9 ай бұрын
John Deere?
@liamfahey8761
@liamfahey8761 9 ай бұрын
Yep same for me
@rosaria8384
@rosaria8384 9 ай бұрын
Same here.
@user-nw3bj4yh5u
@user-nw3bj4yh5u 8 ай бұрын
Not Apple, it's the freedom of life
@FavoritoHJS
@FavoritoHJS 8 ай бұрын
i wonder what is adding the """"display calibration failures"""", if it is macos or if you can work around it with asahi linux
@F14foreverF14
@F14foreverF14 9 ай бұрын
Indeed Apple has written the Book on anti-consumer practices.
@gandalfwiz20007
@gandalfwiz20007 9 ай бұрын
I call it " How to legally steal money from idiots"
@mallninja9805
@mallninja9805 9 ай бұрын
@@gandalfwiz20007 Before you go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back for how smart you are, remember that this is the direction that every manufacturer in every industry is going. Apple is just leading the way.
@gandalfwiz20007
@gandalfwiz20007 9 ай бұрын
@mallninja9805 I don't see Asus or Sony doing what Apple is doing. For example, not upgrading you macpro or replace the screen....that is anti user, anti human practice
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 9 ай бұрын
​@@gandalfwiz20007not *yet* , just wait a couple of years. Samsung made fun of apple for removing the headphone jack... Then turned around and did the same thing a year later. Apple is the rotten apple of the bunch that spoils the rest.
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes 9 ай бұрын
45 year old media editor here. I feel pretty smug that I've never given Apple a dollar. 🤗 How about you?
@zheil9152
@zheil9152 8 ай бұрын
I understand what is happening with the hall effect sensor. Instead of making the orientation consistent between all models, they calibrate the magnetic field to the specific device that has a random orientation. There is no way to calibrate this yourself, which is scummy, but it doesn't appear to be serially tied to the machine, unlike the batteries and screen.
@MusiclyJorge
@MusiclyJorge 8 ай бұрын
Apple: "That would be 9,900$ sir" Customer: "Yes, I've bought the best computer, I just need to upgrade the ram to match my work demands" *Upgrading RAM* - *Computer refuses to work* Apple: "It is what it is, Repair would be 19,990$ sir"
@fahadj7896
@fahadj7896 9 ай бұрын
I'm just half way throuh in video 9:55 Just came here to Thank You for showing this important new man. MKBHD or Linus never talked about this. I really appriciate your work brother. you are out of the box a real tech guy we need!! Thank you.
@navsingh1470
@navsingh1470 9 ай бұрын
Because they get tons of $$ from them😊
@kens-jr2vv
@kens-jr2vv 9 ай бұрын
Louis Rossman used to have an Apple repair shop in NYC. He said he would never buy an Apple product.
@vocassen
@vocassen 8 ай бұрын
@@kens-jr2vv You say that like he doesn't still have one, just in Texas (Austin I believe)
@sirhellsing
@sirhellsing 8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure MKBHD talked about apple's practice of not letting you repair their devices
@fahadj7896
@fahadj7896 8 ай бұрын
@@sirhellsing even Apple terms&C also mention few..But they never dig for customer who is not super rich.
@tonigon5767
@tonigon5767 9 ай бұрын
Anyone still being loyal to Apple, does every consumer a disservice.
@kevinshea5819
@kevinshea5819 9 ай бұрын
Pretty much every electronic device I have is made by Apple. I buy Apple products because they work simple as that. Across-the-board all of my devices work well with each other. I'm not sure which galaxy do you feel that if someone is loyal to Apple or wants to buy their products is doing consumers a disservice. If people don't like Apple products, I don't like the repairability they don't buy them. For me the fact that I never ever have issues with any of my Apple products tells me I would rather live with the fact that maybe I can change the battery with a memory. That is fine with me, but it's not up to you to tell me how I should feel about some thing. By far Apple products are the most reliable and safe to use. Meaning that the combination of the software and hardware makes it very difficult for anyone to hack these devices as compared to any android device again if you don't like the product, don't buy it. If enough people don't like it and don't buy it that will force changes but I don't feel the government has any business before season changes. How about the government starts? Looking at these oil companies gouging us over and over again instead of worrying about us replacing a battery or a screen. The fact is I've never had to change any of these items because the Apple products just Work.
@tonigon5767
@tonigon5767 9 ай бұрын
TL;DR you don't actually own any of those devices. Apple just lets you use them. @@kevinshea5819
@j.t.5178
@j.t.5178 7 ай бұрын
Thank God when I finally got a MacBook, I decided to get MacBook Pro mid-2012, upgraded the ram and hard drive and installed Linux Mint on it. Best $85 I've spent this year.
@privateassman8839
@privateassman8839 7 ай бұрын
Wheee 85? Good deal
@ChickenJoesToes
@ChickenJoesToes 8 ай бұрын
I love not having an apple computer anymore. Feels great to be able to repair and replace parts
@borreLore
@borreLore 9 ай бұрын
One of these days, I hope there is a solid competitor to the M1 and M2 laptops that can run linux. I really love my experience with those computers and their insane performance and battery life but I am sick of this company and their war against the consumer.
@solandri69
@solandri69 8 ай бұрын
The M1 and M2 are ahead pretty much only because Apple paid for priority access to TSMC's 5nm and 3nm fabs. i.e. It's not that the M architecture is special, it's just the size they're manufactured at. AMD began manufacturing on TSMC 5nm with Zen 4, which are competitive. Intel is still on the equivalent of TSMC 7nm (in terms of transistors per mm^2). IOW, AMD and probably Intel could beat out Apple's CPUs if they were willing to outbid Apple for priority access to TSMC's newest fabs. They're not because they don't feel they need to compete with Apple (Apple has only 10% market share). It's also worth pointing out that Intel's decades-long dominance of the CPU market was also because their fabs were 2-3 generations ahead of anyone else in the world. So even if their architecture was inferior, they could produce it smaller thus using less power so they could crank up the clock speed to outrun the competition. Their lead evaporated when they got stuck on 14nm for 7 years (normally they shrink the fab size about every 3-3.5 years). Broadwell (5th gen) all the way to Alder Lake (12th gen). That coincided with AMD surpassing Intel (AMD uses TSMC so continued enjoying die shrinks while Intel was stuck). If Intel grabs the fab lead over TSMC, Apple (and AMD) get relegated to second tier again. Intel's equivalent to TSMC 4nm is supposed to be out later this year. And 3nm next year.
@Akira-xc2zi
@Akira-xc2zi 8 ай бұрын
Sure, the ARM architecture vs x86 has nothing to do with the performance advantage, lmao.
@solandri69
@solandri69 8 ай бұрын
@@Akira-xc2zi ARM (RISC) actually performs worse than x86 (CISC) clock for clock. Apple gets around that deficit by loading up their processors with gobs of specialized hardware co-processors to help speed up specific operations which would take the core much longer to do in software. The M1 and M2 have substantially more transistors than AMD and Intel's offerings as a result (the opposite of what you'd expect from a RISC architecture). And they tend to fall behind when you task them to do lots of the same operations in parallel (the hardware co-processors can only handle 1 or 2 at a time, whereas each of the AMD/Intel cores can crunch through it).
@ssokolow
@ssokolow 8 ай бұрын
@@solandri69 From what I heard, there's also a whole "instruction decoding bottleneck" issue with x86's variable length machine instructions limiting the degree to which you can parallelize the instruction decoding stage of the pipeline.
@alexhajnal107
@alexhajnal107 8 ай бұрын
@@ssokolow The arbitrary length of x86-* instructions certainly doesn't help. In contrast, both 32-bit (A32) and 64-bit (A64) ARM instructions are 32 bits long, when running in Thumb mode (T16) instructions are 16-bit, and when running in Thumb-2 (T32) mode they are either 16-bit or 32-bit. At any given time only one instruction format can be active: A64, A32, T32, or T16. In any case, arguments are almost always 32- or 64-bit. This _vastly_ simplifies decoding.
@MM-fe9mz
@MM-fe9mz 9 ай бұрын
Not being able to replace the keyboard is crazy, I did it myself on an 11 inch Acer laptop, and I'm definitely a novice at tech repair. Replaced a battery in an iPhone 5 once and it was terrifying. Have been too afraid to attempt replacing battery in my Samsung note 8
@tats2059
@tats2059 8 ай бұрын
I had the first Galaxy phone and it was so easy to restart the phone by just popping out the battery. Good times.
@karnikjain7551
@karnikjain7551 8 ай бұрын
man i am never gonna repair a apple device by myself i repaired redmi phones ,samsung phones and lenovo phone once and a hp laptop in which i changed the screen the keyboard and the battery and addded 4 gigs of ram and added a ssd it worked fine untill the display wire broke and i fixed it and it worked and was very easy to repair why apple is making laptop harder to repair
@birdsteak9267
@birdsteak9267 8 ай бұрын
Useless Authoritarian EU did something smart for once, at some point soon, it will be illegal to sell phones in EU that you can't change the battery on.
@PracticaProphetica
@PracticaProphetica 8 ай бұрын
I worked in a computer repair shop a few years ago. We were taking apart an iphone and my buddy dropped one of the tiniest screws on the floor. We were both like..."Nobody move!" Then we carefully got down on the floor with a magnet to try and find it. The magnet did find it, and we were much more careful after that. I hate working on phones and tablets. I've had mixed success. My son's Google Pixel needed a new battery. I read online that even the experts were breaking the screen trying to get it off, so I was extremely careful. I got it off, got in the new battery, and it worked fine...for one week, and then it went black and that was the end. Very frustrating!
@ShockingPikachu
@ShockingPikachu 8 ай бұрын
As someone who went through secondary school during the mid to late 2010s and witnessing macbooks of that era, being unable to replace the screen is awful, especially with my perception because those ones back then, the displays shattered if you accidentally left a sheet of paper on the keyboard. Not hyperbole, thats what happened to one of my classmates back then
@randomisus8711
@randomisus8711 6 ай бұрын
my school has the 2017 macbook pros, the insanely thin ones, in our photoshop class, and a kid shattered the screen because he was eating near the computer, and a piece of salt fell onto the body by one of the corners, he didn't notice and when he shut the laptop screen, that tiny little salt chunk decided it was the end of that macbook
@ShockingPikachu
@ShockingPikachu 6 ай бұрын
@@randomisus8711 I think the 2017 model was the one that was shattering coz people put a post-it note over the webcam so I believe it 😅
@TheWutangclan1995
@TheWutangclan1995 5 ай бұрын
It’s funny because I basically use my 2013 mba like a folder for a few sheets of paper from time to time and it still works.
@picblick
@picblick 8 ай бұрын
This video will teach Apple a lesson. They will wake up in the middle of the night, sweating in terror about the realization that they need to pair the sleep sensor to the logic board *and* the display.
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