New Battery! EG4 Powerpro: 14.3kWh LiFePO4 Outdoor Rated w/ Internal Heaters

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@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

This battery is lower in price than the budget server rack battery if you include the cost of the rack ($279 per kWh VS $283 per kWh) . But if you buy a single server rack battery, it will be cheaper by a little bit ($269 per kWh). So if you are buying a full stack, it is cheaper than budget priced server rack batteries. You can buy the new battery here (affiliate links): signaturesolar.com/shop-all/batteries/eg4-powerpro/?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN EG4 18K Packages: signaturesolar.com/kits-bundles/?_bc_fsnf=1&brand=66&ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN Please give the video a thumbs up if you like offgrid solar! If you have any issues with this battery or other equipment, check out my free forum: diysolarforum.com Also check out my instagram! @willprowseiv

@simonpaine2347 10 ай бұрын

How cool would it be if they offered those same battery cable connectors inside the 18Kpv? Plug and Play!

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

oh that would be amazing!@@simonpaine2347

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

that is a good point@@simonpaine2347

@jimbob3030 10 ай бұрын

This is the battery I was waiting for, but I just wasted 3100 on those scam batteries ugh!!!!

@Bozemanjustin 10 ай бұрын

Two of those batteries would power my house for more than a day by themselves. No solar panels needed I live next to the ocean in South Florida.... I've looked it up before and they claim we get 6 hours of sunlight when it comes to solar panels, but I don't know how that works because it's sunny from 7:00 in the morning until 8:30 p.m. everyday in the summer so I would think you'd have to get more than 6 hours of solar panel. Maybe only 100% output for 6 hours? But my house uses 21 kW hours a day That's with two air conditioners. A hot water heater, two fridge and freezers, microwave, oven, lights, TVs computers

@carsonc1272 10 ай бұрын

Those guys at EG4 really have their finger on the pulse on the market. And they react pretty quickly. Such an impressive company!

@NeverTakeNoShortcuts 10 ай бұрын

Indeed. I would just wait till version 2 comes out and bugs are worked out…

@unpluggedtexan 10 ай бұрын

@@NeverTakeNoShortcuts that's good advice

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

This model is getting listed and certified, so I doubt they will make a version two. It costs a ton to get these certifications.

@DiySolarHelpDesk 10 ай бұрын

@@WillProwse EG4 needs to get their rack certified. We put it on a plan set and the county rejected it in South Carolina. Had to switch to a Ready Rack to get the permit approved.

@BenBrand 10 ай бұрын

Yes, and it comes at a great cost. I went through four different chargeverter 5000 units before I got to their second version where they fixed most of the initial bugs. There were so many things wrong with the initial units that never should have left the prototype bench, but they were still selling them to clear out inventory before they got the better units in stock.

@DesertHomesteader 10 ай бұрын

I hope this battery works out because it is kind of what I've been waiting for...something more affordable than the server rack batteries and easily connected.

@lunatik9696 10 ай бұрын

NICE, I've been waiting for EG4 to have a 280A-hr battery system. I always like when Will gets excited when something finally works.

@daimonvilppu6439 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Will! Love the insight you give with the new products, especially EG4.

@TylerTheCompiler 10 ай бұрын

they need to add the "quick connects" to the 18K and it's getting so DIY friendly!!

@bryanmartin2434 10 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same. A quick connect bus bar for one of those boxes on top of the battery packs would be nice too.

@pazi402 10 ай бұрын

@@bryanmartin2434That would be neat! You actually wouldn’t need that with these batteries since they parallel directly to each other, but it would be useful for another system.

@jonjohns8145 10 ай бұрын

Wow!! EG4 is firing on All Cylinders! Every other day they have a new and more interesting product. Very good!

@crosseyedcricketfarms 10 ай бұрын

What makes us love Will & his channel is 8:36 “We did it, it works”…… Suspense, ups, downs, around and around then 9:10 hooks 🪝 us with “ And it’s working it actually updated” Great video this appears to be a superior product.

@vickimorales2144 10 ай бұрын

Kudos Will - just want to say we really are amazed at your knowledge, skill, attitude! Thanks for the wonderful videos.

@russellleach1942 10 ай бұрын

You are so happy when things work out right

@hkhhkh6983 10 ай бұрын

It's great to see you review such a product. 280 ah cells are very popular in the diy community here

@MaxGoddur 10 ай бұрын

Looking forward to updates on this system. Great video thank you.

@Xcentr1cK 10 ай бұрын

This is perfect.. thank you for everything you do... answered all my questions and more

@bobwilliams5376 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for showing this new product. I look forward to your update reviews on it. I’m hoping good news, so I can go with this system

@DiySolarHelpDesk 10 ай бұрын

Oooo! I like this one. Thanks, Will. I need to add them to my EG4 store. As you were doing it, I was thinking it was too tall to put the inverter above it. Thank you.

@jacquesdutron9954 10 ай бұрын

Thx again WTG, you're not afraid to make mistakes online, unbelievable! That's amazing! This was awesome.

@rodneyross5282 10 ай бұрын

Very interesting. I was just at signature solar talking to them about the A/C. It is too late today to go back. I will be back Monday to talk about this also. Will you do damn good work very informational videos. Have a super blessed weekend.

@microcolonel 10 ай бұрын

Very cool. This is the right way to package equipment like this. It'll be cool to see what the prices look like with the Signature Solar bundles.

@joesmith6972 10 ай бұрын

I like this! I've really had reservations of putting all the solar equipment in my attached garage but this outdoor rated equipment will fit nicely in my detached carport utility room.

@sedona8208 10 ай бұрын

Geez, I finally pulled the trigger and purchased six server rack batteries from SS and are currently en route. Now this... Gotta love technology! This next generation battery is awesome and I love how all this is headed.

@dallas304life 10 ай бұрын

😂me too! I have them in the box in my garage ready to install and then I get an email about this battery. I ran to KZfaq and sus enough Will just posted about it. I'm about to return my 3 server rack batt and get two of these!

@pdavis2207 10 ай бұрын

Same here, batteries in garage still in box. Took over a month to get the server rack. Solar panels just going up next week. Oh well, not a huge difference in performance and price I don't think, and a little easier to move around and replace if needed.

@dallas304life 10 ай бұрын

@pdavis2207 sig solar tools me to send them a pic of the batteries unopened, and they will do a return lol

@jackp2345 10 ай бұрын

I just canceled my SS server rack order two weeks ago and very happy I did so I can pull the trigger on this 280ah battery plus the 6.5 controller and more solar panels.

@jackp2345 10 ай бұрын

@@dallas304life did you pickup at their warehouse or did you have them shipped?

@richardleach1706 10 ай бұрын

You've come along way from showing how to build a 12 volt system. Been fun and educational. Thanks peace.

@pauld7806 7 ай бұрын

Hey Will, you need to bust that thing open and have a look inside. I want to know what the build quality looks like. Keep these videos coming!

@johnbenjamin4231 10 ай бұрын

Howdy neighbor. This is looking like the size system with less units and less garage space. Could you just push the battery flush with the wall next to the inverter??? 300lbs is alot to put up on a wall.

@ronbridegroom8428 10 ай бұрын

You do a great job describing how to set this up and use it. thanks

@john_in_phoenix 10 ай бұрын

Outdoor rated in Vegas and Phoenix is not what manufacturers expect. I would be interested in how it performs above 110 degrees. 😅 Read all of the instructions? Who does that?

@yooper423 10 ай бұрын

I built 2 batteries for my RV with EVE LF280K cells. Custom 3D printed cases with a JBD 200 Amp Smart BMS. I am currently building 2 more and they will have heating pads built in (will redo the first 2 to add the heating pads when we get back from the NASCAR race at Las Vegas Motor Speedway). So, my RV will have the same capacity as that battery, 14.3KWatt Hours. Have a 3,200 Watt inverter hard-wired into my RVs power cord storage compartment so I can plug it in and easily run one roof AC all day while we are driving. Have three 200 watt solar panels that I need to mount before we head to Vegas. Will be nice to only pull about 70 Amps from the battery during the heat of the day while running the AC unit and the fridge. Have learned so much watching your videos. Definitely have helped me in my builds.

@GavinStoneDIY 10 ай бұрын

I think this could be a game changer for some people. Good video.

@Vibe77Guy 10 ай бұрын

I purchased an electric chain hoist, similar to what Vevor now offers for 300 pound capacity, and 250 watt, 110vac. I wanted a bit more factor of safety, and off the shelf reeved lower hooks were not available, so I took a side grinder to a rope pulley sheave, and made a reeved lower hook to double the lift capacity. I then replaced the chain for a longer 4mm chain and now have a 500 pound capacity, 10' lift chain hoist that I can run off of the Bluetti EB3A. And it was less than $200.

@pazi402 10 ай бұрын

What a slick battery! This seems much more efficient over a rack with less components in addition to more direct power bussing from cell to cell. Having twice the current capability to boot..I am sold!

@MrBillTroop73 10 ай бұрын

I just purchased the EG4 3K and two EG4 LL batteries, based on your "Hand Truck" project. I'm don't have any intelligence when it comes to electric stuff, but both of your hand truck videos seems to make it simple enough that I might just be able to pull it off. Thank you.

@niffrig 10 ай бұрын

This is literally what I was planning to build (a Seplos Mason turned sideways). I have to say Signature Solar is hungry and very tuned to the market.

@Ryan-ff2db 10 ай бұрын

I'll be watching. This is a product I would certainly purchase but not until it's been thoroughly tested.

@SpencerLAPower 10 ай бұрын

We'll be testing the parallel capabilities of these batteries Sometime next week As soon as Shipment comes in. Great Video😊

@zmarko 10 ай бұрын

You keep finding new components for me to buy! My "wanted" solar system has changed so many times. Lol. Can this be mounted on the floor, and then secured to the wall near the top of the unit (say, right below the 18k inverter)?

@HutchinsonJC 10 ай бұрын

This is neat, and I'm glad it'll be part of their line up, I'm glad to see signature solar is not sitting idle, but I think I like the ~100lbs rack mount batteries where they are a bit easier to move individually... combined with any possible failure, you wouldn't be out almost 15kwh of your power storage all in one go.

@user-hh6ex9md4w 5 ай бұрын

I totally understand your point! It's great to have options when it comes to power storage. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series might interest you as it offers a flexible design with a capacity range of 1kWh - 5kWh, making it easier to move individually. Plus, with its durable and waterproof design, it's perfect for outdoor adventures. It's worth checking out if you value convenience and reliability. Happy camping!

@robbehr8806 10 ай бұрын

The battery looks interesting! I may need one, next spring. When you test yours, please use some challenging loads, like a cheap microwave oven.

@NeverTakeNoShortcuts 10 ай бұрын

I like it a lot. My concern with these big batteries vs. server rack is that IF they fail, you are out 1) a lot of money, 2) a huge battery to be hefted and shipped 3) a Huge portion of your battery capacity is offline. Having a bunch of smaller server racks seems a lot more practical for DIYers for whom this kind of battery is marketed.

@eastmanresearch3143 10 ай бұрын

truth, but these are pretty nice outdoors as an option.

@davidb.5544 10 ай бұрын

That's why would at least be helpful if cells are replaceable but I'm betting they are welded.

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

Old packs including Tesla power walls are going to have welded cells except for SOK. And imagine replacing one of those 😂 at least this one you can actually disconnect and ship out. Cant do that with the AC coupled packs very easily. I should make a video about that

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

And you need to buy four batteries so you don't have that issue. That way you can do full output with two 18K units if one fails

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

You should also buy two computers and two cellphones because you are depending on a single device. Need to buy 2 or 3 of everything, so you have redundancy

@SmithOffGrid 10 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a teardown!

@boblupart862 10 ай бұрын

GFD IT . Right when I was thinking of getting 4 more server racks!

@mikebalentine 10 ай бұрын

Exciting to see this product!

@jamesg6071 10 ай бұрын

Yep this is what I’m getting in a parallel configuration with the 18k

@jamesfarley4759 10 ай бұрын

Your videos are top notch. I've built an entire system for my RV and Im almost complete with my small home in Arizona. I just need more batteries. The wife and I are in savings mode. The economy has left us struggling.

@ericdelevinquiere9902 10 ай бұрын

Good for a home installation, personally I am sticking with my own build which is about 40% less in cost for same power specs, not as pretty but certainly more transportable and serviceable!

@ryanpatrick7086 10 ай бұрын

Specs on your build? I’m interested in saving as much money as possible and don’t care as much about it looking pretty.

@TheCankicker 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this great review. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on BigBattery 48V Rhino with 14Kwh for $5990, when I see this one is only $3999. A comparison of the two would be awesome!

@georgereiss998 10 ай бұрын

Just received my 18k bundle from Signature Solar. Someone needs to put a few sets of blocks in the break room in the shipping department. The way the boxes were stacked on the half pallet they used it never should have been shipped. Everything arrived in good shape even though a forklift had done some pretty serious damage to a couple of battery boxes. Each battery was very well packed in the box and the driver helped break down the pallet and we both inspected everything. All my contact with Signature Solar has been great and I can't wait for my server rack to ship so I can hook everything up. This new battery looks like it may be a good addition to the system if it passes the Will test.

@canyahearmenow4 10 ай бұрын

Take it apart, we need to see the build quality and the guts!

@PeterGregg 10 ай бұрын

Really interesting stuff Will - thumbs up buddy 👍👍👍

@larryphillips4164 10 ай бұрын

“Now let’s look at the other side” *moves camera instead of 309 pound battery* 😂😂😂🤪. Gg sir. Ty for your service to society and keep up the good work!

@zodiacfml 10 ай бұрын

Nice, solves my gripe with server rack batteries where my first ever impression is lack of capacity. However, the price is not much cheaper than buying three server rack batteries, as buying a single unit is to save on cost. Maybe there's slight edge to weather proofing? I guess if one does not have indoor space for batteries, there is nothing else to get but this.. Another thing to make this more compelling due to its size is electric vehicle DC charging (through DC voltage conversion not AC) maybe through a separately sold module or another model.

@JeffClearwater 10 ай бұрын

No need to actually lift it to the wall - it's designed to be supported by the floor and mount to the wall. Also you can run the EG4 18kPV inverter with a single battery by simply setting your settings internally to limit to

@markronck3415 10 ай бұрын

Wow, EG4 sure has stepped up to the plate...

@mwolrich 10 ай бұрын

A large stackable version is availble as a DIY kit from DOCAN (China) about $500 for case & BMS, they sell the 280AH lifepo cells for $90/each, so $1,440 + $500 under $2,000, then you have to add in shipping and ali express fee, so add in another $500, DIY for $2,500. EG4 getting $4K, it is a wall mount, but it’s ridiculously heavy.. a stack with a floor dolly makes more sense, as long as it’s elevated above the floor. The EG4 version is probably worth more money, as it’s already built and all fees are paid..

@paultarp9150 5 ай бұрын

Oh, I think I want the 18k and 2 of those batteries. Nice. Thanks for showing these. Please let us know if you've had any issues.

@PrecisionClays 10 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the testing you will do. As you test I will be interested to know your thoughts on outdoor mounting, especially in an environment with more humidity, aka Florida. Thanks, this may be the setup I've been hoping for.

@a16416 10 ай бұрын

You have to do that same process with any of the LL V2 batteries as well when you’re setting up the communication

@slimanus8m 8 ай бұрын

Waiting for the EG4 Powerpro disassembly video ;)

@wdwtx2.0 10 ай бұрын

I've been hoping for a review of these.

@STxFisherman 9 ай бұрын

I just had an EG4 18kPV with 6 EG4 LL (v.2) 48V batteries installed along with my solar panel ground mount system and I ran into the exact same issue with the communications between the inverter and batteries. The installer couldn't figure it out right away and suggested that I contact Signature Solar. I was able to figure out the issue after watching a KZfaq video about the problem and everything worked just fine. The day with the EG4 LL batteries was to temporarily switch the ID # from 1 to 64, then turn the battery off and then back on (including the breaker) and then push in the third button for 5 seconds to get the protocol switched over to Lux. After doing that you switch it back to ID# 1 and it works. I totally agree that a quick guide would make life simpler for users and yes, it was a pain in the butt. TGYT (Thank God for KZfaq)..

@enricopallazzo3244 2 ай бұрын

legend

@charlesdahmital8095 10 ай бұрын

I am going to put that in my Prius. Should get my 0-100 times down.

@Intellistan 10 ай бұрын

Awesome. This is what I'm talking about.

@MikeGrayM70 10 ай бұрын

The EG4 18k is overkill for my project, but checks all the boxes for me and the NEC. A single one of these batteries will be plenty for what I need. The inverter has to go outside because of it's size and spacing requirements. I'm really hoping I can fit this battery on the same wall, but inside the house. Hopefully the cables will be long enough. I think they will be. I'm looking forward to the update video here. :)

@AveRage_Joe 10 ай бұрын

Looks like a pretty sweet battery!!

@tomwilliam5118 10 ай бұрын

You really must have a great relationship with these companies to change the problems did you find

@eliaustin3745 10 ай бұрын

Lol "This thing is 300 pounds. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it. 😀 I'm gonna film the whole thing." Hahaha, I truly love this attitude. I'm laughing with, not at. These videos are about as cool and fun as they are informative. I love that he explains it like I'm 5 years old. I think, Einstein said that if you can't explain it to a child, you don't understand it.

@OSSAlanR 10 ай бұрын

"If you're willing to laugh at yourself, you'll never lack for a source of amusement" - Diana D'Angelo

@stacycowman7573 10 ай бұрын

Great vid!

@andrewt9204 10 ай бұрын

Those do look pretty nice for outdoor use especially. I still have the patience to save cost by putting together raw cells in a cabinet though. Also makes it a little easier to transport if I have to by taking apart the individual cells. But I understand if a lot of people don't like that solution and want something a little cleaner.

@josephcormier5974 10 ай бұрын

Excellent informational video thank you for sharing this six stars

@paulbaker3144 3 ай бұрын

In 20 years I might install one of these.

@paulina2051 10 ай бұрын

Thanks

@timf6916 10 ай бұрын

Good job.

@chejda6066 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@eastmanresearch3143 10 ай бұрын

I'm installing my SOK rack batteries today with a 15k solark and am a bit bummed I didn't get these. Mine is in a pumphouse and I ended up building a wall around the pressure tanks in case of a pipe break... these seem piece of cake to get going. $8k for 28kw of power, that is a huge game changer and can put it outdoors w/ the solark or 18k eg4.

@davidb.5544 10 ай бұрын

You may be thankful you got the SOK in the long run.

@eastmanresearch3143 10 ай бұрын

Well I had some issues today getting the SOK stack to fire up and initialize the pre-charge state on the SOK across all six batteries (dip switches set, rs485 cables all connected to each other), so this weekend is probably hosed to finish the job until I can speak with Dexter.@@davidb.5544

@tonykuiper9127 10 ай бұрын

The additional bonus with that battery is that you get a workbench for doing the crimping on.

@powerwall 10 ай бұрын

Great product

@donovanturner6284 10 ай бұрын

Reminds me of big battery. Seems pretty solid

@xrpbelieverxrpbeliever5093 10 ай бұрын

Even though they're heavy I like the larger battery

@MeasureInGrains 10 ай бұрын

We need a disassembly video of this battery. =)

@robertwan8561 8 ай бұрын

This looks like a great product for larger solar systems. Now that they finally have the software working, maybe they can also release an 8k version of this that supports 12K of solar input (2 MPPTs). This is good for 24 panel arrays (or even 27) but a lot of homes do not need more than 16 panels.

@mylesoffgrid 10 ай бұрын

I want 5 of these!!😊

@fastway007 10 ай бұрын

If Will has a problem and has to contact support, how the hell does a rookie like me (maybe a lot of people) figure out process of getting system up and running without frying something. I agree with what he said about a quick start guide, thats a hell of a lot of power to make a wrong move.

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

I get first version of manual. Usually I never contact support, and I never use communication 😂 and they should have a quick start guide. It's not hard

@davidadams421 10 ай бұрын

With respect, you should _never_ install one of these units without reading the manual forwards, backwards and sideways first. Simple as. Or get somebody qualified to install it. Will doesn't because he is _not_ a newbie, but he does also nicely highlight in this video why he should! 😉

@Fish_Ventura 9 ай бұрын

Dude,, that was some work for this review. I’m always worried about hurting the lifespan if I had this outside or in my Phoenix garage.

@ssoffshore5111 7 ай бұрын

Heat will w/o a doubt accelerate their useful lifespan!

@martinbunn8366 10 ай бұрын

my plan is to run my house on these and recharge with a generator daily. I’ll be calling signature Solar on Monday.

@TommyCallaway 10 ай бұрын

Holy smokes that's a big battery!

@garybryan33 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Any update on the the battery performance? I need to pull the trigger and since it is a new product any last-minute updates would be great.

@graphguy 10 ай бұрын

I love nerds. I wish I could be one, but I'm the "jack of all trades, master of none" type. So when I need a master in DIY Solar... you are the nerd I turn to.

@WillProwse 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 😁

@unionse7en 10 ай бұрын

Cool, hope it gets UL9540 2nd edition as an ESS with the 18kpv...soon! If not looks like Solark for me

@benwhillock6210 10 ай бұрын

Currently pending, should be done mid-September

@Mobile_Dom 10 ай бұрын

would love to see you check out the Anker Solix home batteries and EcoFlow Power Ocean when they some out as well, these pretty, large, outdoor rated batteries are becoming more common

@user-lm1zt7zy2k 10 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a teardown!. I'd love to see a teardown!.

@TyGreggVideos 10 ай бұрын

Can you do a video for people with an existing solar system that want to add an AC coupled battery backup system. Thanks!

@norduferhandel4512 10 ай бұрын

The local energy office and electricity supplier in the USVI are offering a low interest loan program here at a 1% rate for up to 30k. But the pricing and systems are all over the map pricewise. This battery is 1/3 the price of the cheapest battery that was quoted to me. I'm almost ready to self fund my system because in the end I'm still paying for these expensive systems.

@RA-gk5zg 10 ай бұрын

This is perfect for a boat. The fact it is waterproof relieves any concerns about salt water environment.

@tjesnaps 10 ай бұрын

Steel enclosure and salt water not the best idea. But depends on your situation of course

@muhdiversity7409 10 ай бұрын

I'm not sure that it would be rated for vibration and the beating it would get from waves and such.

@DiySolarHelpDesk 10 ай бұрын

Outdoor rated does not equate to "waterproof". There are covers that prevent rain from entering, but you can't submerge it.

@muhdiversity7409 10 ай бұрын

@@DiySolarHelpDesk seeing this sucker immersed in salt water would be a place I wouldn't want to be near. Yikes.

@Mike-01234 5 ай бұрын

They just got this approved by the California Energy Comision that is a game changer. The price per watt is much cheaper than what had been approved. With the 18Kpv approved also means for $9000 you can have both are fully approved by the CEC.

@vernonwebb1449 10 ай бұрын

You’re amazing

@Lukeor 5 ай бұрын

Mine just shipped.

@Tumbleweed5150 10 ай бұрын

Great video as always! I love the heated battery... but I wonder how well this would do in a hotter environment outside. It can get up to 120F here in the southern CA desert! I would accept one as a proving site! LOL

@ssoffshore5111 7 ай бұрын

That kind of heat will certainly lower the lifespan of the cells!

@Brian-os9qj 10 ай бұрын

Thx for this info

@Thunderst0rn 10 ай бұрын

I hope they will be introducing these in Europe as well

@sheaton954 6 ай бұрын

great video! Can you do a tear down on it like you do on the other batteries so we can see the build quality? Is it user serviceable like SOK?

@cainweber1978 10 ай бұрын

Another great video. Planet earth needs more E=hf and less E=mc2. Thanks for popping into my KZfaq feed 1 year ago. Must be 10s of thousands like me inspired to give solar a go with your encouraging and empowering videos. ❤