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I hear the CFMOTO 450 SS comes standard with the ability to piss off "that uncle" at family events.

Bro I swear to god I passed you on my Ibex on the day you took this thing out! I was headed into the canyons as you were headed out.

Hi. I have been riding for nearly 2 decades and use this to daily comute. I just bought the CF Moto 450 because of its drop dead gorgeous looks and its ultra smooth engine and gearbox. As a 50 year old, I thought that the more aggressive riding stance (especially coming from a upright naked Duke) might be too much for me, but I have not had any issues with any back or wrist pains (even on long days out in the country). I use to own a triumph thruxton nearly 10 years ago, and I had really bad back and wrist pains after 1 hour of riding it. The fact that I don't get pains on this bike is a big plus. I will start with the bad points I've experienced so far. This one is not a huge problem, but one to note. The sat navigation has taken me to places that I've not entered once or twice when I've gone out to the country side. It also couldn't find a popular town that a lot of people go to. So while I like that it has in built turn by turn nav, I wished they had installed Google maps instead of their own system, but since I don't use the navigation (except to try it out that day), it's not a problem for me. Second, and more of an issue for me... I think the fuel economy is high for a 450. I know it's still in the breaking in period, but at 4.6L per 100k's (what I'm getting so far), it's pretty bad, especially since I'm quite careful with it during run in. That's nearly what a Hornet 750 or a Duke 790 gets. Lastly, and this is a minor gripe, but I wish that the kick stand was around a cm longer. It feels like the bike wants to go over when you stop on anything but a flat surface. Another really bad thing about this bike is the preconceived ideas people have about the brand. While I would not recommend cfmoto's earlier bikes, their collaboration with KTM and its in-house designers have paid off and has been proven in all the great reviews this bike has been getting. Even so people will come up to you and ask what make and brand the bike is. Then you have to explain.. it's CF Moto. , oh... they'll say. Then you have to let them know t's a Chinese company. They really need to change the name of CF Moto to something else, something that rolls off the tongue easier. It's hard to justify and explain who they are and what the CF in CF moto means. I think that we are all use to other big brands being made from China, but saying that name Cf Moto, doesn't bring pride to the ownerships even if this is a top of the class bike. I mean, look at the other up coming Chinese brand Kove (pronounced Kove'), it sounds fancy and more a kin to a top quality/premium bike. Cf Moto should follow suit so that they can increase their brand loyalties. Even though I like this bike, I would not wear any of their merch. Am I worried about the fit finish and reliability? Not at all. CF Moto has been around for a long time in Australia. This bike is solid and put together very well. It has a 3 year factory warranty which is longer than nearly all the established makes. Also considering CF Moto makes the engines for the Ninja 400, it would not suprise me if this is the same engine bored out to 450cc with a 270° crank shaft instead of 180 and they've called it their own. May be this the exact engine that KTM and cfmoto were working on before KTM pulled out of building the Duke 490 range. Thats it for the bad stuff. What I love. The looks. The front a rear winglets are a first to market in class and give it an aggressive and unique look to a otherwise mundane cbr-r sport bike template. I also like that it has a nice big, bright tft with optional 2 display layouts and lots of features, some of which include rev shift alert, over speed alert so you don't speed too much over and loose your licence, the forementioned sat navigation, from phone to Bluetooth call with music controls from the switches, a bike tracker with geo fencing alert. You can also track your bike if your friend borrows it, or it gets stolen and moved anywhere in the world. This has a greater advantage for owners because when I told the insurance company that It has it, they lowered my insurance premiums, all of which is not on the Ninja 400... yeay!!! It does have a bigger bike feel and you do feel it when you throw your legs over it to start, but the bike does shrink around you when you move at normal paces, but when you push it, I do feel that the bike feels like it's bigger than what it actually is again, which is really wiered but not in a bad way. Not a sensation I've felt before. I love how sure footed this bike is at any speed. It always feels really planted, stable and grippy. Pulls from 3800 rpm comfortably. The slightly more tucked in hunkered down position is comfortable as long as your not over 5 10-11". A really big thumbs up. It's really manuvrable and easily threads through tight and heavy peak hour bumper to bumper traffic (even with those big long mirrors out which was a big suprise). And have I mentioned how smooth it is. The engine is silky smooth, It also sounds good from factory. I like the pops and burble sounds it makes when down shifting. Almost like a softer quieter C63 merc. Like the C63, I wish the muffler also had the quiet and loud pass through valve to really give it a bit more rumble on the road and a quiet mode so the neighbours don't get angry option at 5am start up. For people who say it's only a beginners bike, I would urge you to think twice. You can only go as fast as the speed limit these days, so anything over a 500 to 600cc is posturing. This bike has more than enough power to get you out of trouble, it does also allow you to have fun while being much safer. It has a much lower rego and insurance cost compared to a big bike and much, much, much cheaper to buy. While I think beginners will love it, it is a great real world conditions bike for everyone under 5.10". The price. For what you get, it's a hell of a deal.

Just got mine last week and I can't stop smiling while riding it. The ergonomics are fantastic, not too aggressive, not too relaxed. Brakes are good. Transmission is smooth. Sounds like a V-twin. And most importantly, it looks better than most of the other motorcycles in its class.

Man, everyone is really singing the praises of this motorcycle. It would really be a good thing for Cfmoto to be the “real deal” with their products. It would increase the availability of parts, aftermarket items, and the competition with Japanese and European bikes would be good for pricing for all of us. Good review!

Listening to this on my cardo neo. Thanks for the discount, Spite!

Yeah I just picked one by today. I love it so much

HELL YEAH!!!!!! Almost spat my coffee out seeing the thumbnail in excitement!

Thumbs up for a great video and perfect audio

Your note about the black/silver colorway looking like an Aprilia is exactly what I thought the first time I saw one of these on the road. Guy had an aftermarket pipe on it, and it looked and sounded like an Aprilia. Blew my mind when I got next to it and saw what it was.

I'd love to see a longer term review of these CFMoto bikes. Something like a 10K or 20K mile review. They seem great from the factory, but it would be nice to know how they hold up long term.

The ZX4RR is a very anticipated motorbike but only from a niche of a niche group of people. You have to be the kind of person to CHOOSE one over a second hand ZX-6R or an MT-09 for the same price. The 450SS is gonna be the kinda bike open to every new rider.

Spite I have not had one thing loose on my 450SS. Build quality is better than most all I looked at.

Demoed one today, It rides like a much higher end bike, just with only 50hp. I'm also 250lbs and the suspension felt fine, the Brembo brake was great, and the fueling and overall feel of that motor is incredible for a $5500 beginner bike. No jerky throttle response, blipping off downshifts is super easy and that little motor loves to rev. 80mph on the highway, no buzz at all.

Great video. Great bike😏

Can always count on Spite to have the sickest fucking riffs in his videos. 🤘🤘🤘

getting mine on wednesday and will be making reviews and mod vids so hyped

That intro music is 🔥

Awesome video! Your details in the comments show you do your research and remind me why you're among the best reviewers on youtube, Spite! A lot of videos on this bike talk about it as an "amazing beginner bike"... I'm actually in the camp of people willing to 'trade down' my 600 to get one of these machines as the package and styling really appeal to me. Do you think these bikes hold the same level of "awesomeness" to an experienced rider as it would to a beginner? Or would they eventually miss the power of previous bikes?

Really dig this video. Excellent example of a light bike being wonderfully stable

Got my 450sr here in Australia as my 2nd bike! put 2500km on it over a few months and I love it! I weigh 110kg and am 6 foot 8 and it still has a bunch on tap for me. An awesome machine and definitely bang for buck!

The 450SS was surprisingly fun, but that 700 CX-L was sooooo much fun!

I'm glad the King of beginner motorcycle Ninja400 has some real competition now. My only concern with CFMoto will just be reliability and aftermarket support. It's kinda like KTM's RC390; great bike but was plagued with reliability issues and lack of dealership in most places (non-existent here in Japan) Another fact which won't affect US riders but does for most parts of the world, anything above a 400cc displacement (or thereabouts) is usually a tier above the standard motorcycle license. Meaning in places like Japan, your standard motorcycle license only allows you to ride up to 400cc displacement, which explains why historically there has been many in this category, inc the new ZX4rr. This bike seems pretty sweet, especially for a new rider but outside the US, I don't see it being very popular because of the tiered licensing and I doubt anyone will take the time and effort to get the unlimited license just to ride this over all the others.

Im just here for the sick heavy metal at the intro.

Amazing, amazing bike. As a beginner I'm having a ton of fun on it. Would recommend it to anyone looking for a starter sport-bike.

Hi Spite. I bought a brand new CF MOTO 450RS motorcycle and from new, gear changes were rough and it had vibrations. After the first service, the bike felt a lot worse, and engine was over heating sporadically. At 1400klm I realised when the dealer said that it was normal and I had taken the bike back 6 times, back to the dealer, I investigated the problem and found the dealer was filling the oil to below the empty level. When I toped up the oil, it took 750ml to get it to the full line. That's 1/3rd oil missing since new. In the cf moto user manual it states that the oil should only be filled to below the low line, but in doesn't say if this when the bike is on the side stand or upright on a service stand. Turns out they were filling it up on the service stand in the upright, and those instructions were for the bike being on the side stand. So dealer was filling my bike and some others short of oil. Engine now sounds rough compared to new bike and I am hearing a slight ratting sound. Can you please tell me, during this crucial run in period, what is the potential damage to the engine and gear box? I think during the crucial 1000klm run in period not having enough oil to meet even the bottom line of the low indicator mark would have caused damage, but dealer said no, it's o.k..

I’m super curious to see people begin to really modify these thing and see what they are capable of!

Idk dude, that 24 ninja 451 SE comes LOADED with tech and a badass package 📦 👍🏻

ive definitely been interested since i first saw the 300 and now with this 450... i may have to find a local dealer.

Hope you get on the 2023 CLX 700 heritage it has the new ADV electronics. Offroad mode and switchable abs and traction control. Got mine in april and i love it.

Im happy that every gigle on bikes isnt just me 😂

Reliability ? Parts availability? Dealer network? Resale value? I’ll make my judgement when I see long term owners reviews with bikes that have covered 30 plus thousand miles.

Great video! Who plays the outro music for you? If you could point me in their direction, that would be great, thanks.

While you are at it Hangzhou is a great tea export as well.

Nice review, I wish you would have included Josh's ride and opinion since you know, he was there and rode it and is a lighter rider...just saying and enjoy yer channel

CF Moto is killing it

For me the buttons feel better than anything I've touched on a yamaha, that being r7 mt03 and mt07

Is it uncomfortable for tall people? im like 1,88 and want to buy my first bike, its either cfmoto 450sr/ ktm rc 390 or aprilia rs 660.

Wow, this must be the 6th cfmoto 450 review I've seen in the past 2 weeks. Cutting edge

I just got the 300nk a month ago. Would be interested in a review of that.

The thing to remember is this engine was being developed for KTM but they decided not to enter the middleweight market and they also make other engines for KTM and yamaha and frames for some of the yamaha MT series so it’s not a newbie company. I’m downsizing so I need to take one out for a ride it’s really growing on me. Amazon sells a screen protector for the display already😂

I'd like to see some options from CF Moto. I'd buy a NK700 with the spoke wheels from their adventure bike and the Brembo's off the SS.

Bro Spite …. Love your content mate.. but you are looking like a fire 🔥 hazard.. have a trim champ and you’ll look like a new man ..👌👍

Now im really happy cause i just put a deposit down for one of these a week ago :D

As a person that's interested in purchasing a a 400 class motorcycle, my concerns are the following: 1) accessibility to services spare parts, 2) are the aforementioned parts interchangeable\compatible with KTM motorcycles?

I LOVE STURGIS! What a beautiful part of the country! The rally is fun too 😉

I'm going to a dealership after work to go look at these.

I'm seriously considering this ride, How is the power in 4th gear at highway speeds? I see that you stayed in 3rd gear most of the time...

Do you or your buddy have a video on the CLX 700?

Can we see a review of the new Honda CB500F? It has inverted forks and dual disk front brakes now.

If you in the market for a sport bike and you are using your own money would buy this bike or a ninja 400?

how is the ergo for a taller person on this one? 1,84 m about 6'1.

I hope the 800 NK comes to the states.

any update on the cf450ss champ school thing ? that would be. good one :D cheers

Spitee, what would you suggest for a complete beginner? this biker or Svart 401? I am 6"2 around 250 pounds.

Does anyone know how big he is? He mentioned feeling a bit cramped just trying to compare to myself @ 6'2" 250lbs

I am currently on the weightless feeling 300NK. My local dealership has both the 300NK/SS and the 450SS, and honestly don't know why the 300 exists here in the USA. If I was not looking at the 2022 leftover 700CLX models in the brass rim Heritage bike, this would likely be the one. I am trying to get my wife to get one of these so I can put miles on it for her lol.

I love my 450ss

has anyone had the problem while in gp, that you click down (for me was into 6th gear) to upshift and the shifter went straight down vertically. kinda went into neutral then had to click it back into 6th where it went downard that way. concerned for my trans but its still clicking fine and dont hear any clanking inbetwwen shifts, keep in mind it has 350 miles on it

CFMoto coming hard at the Japanese companies...they are even building a factory in Mexico on the border to build these bikes for the American market. CFMoto could be as disruptive to the motorcycle market as Honda was in the 1960s. At first people laughed them off because at the time a bunch of Japanese products had a reputation of being low quality. CFMoto seems to have done their homework when it comes to quality control and if they can shake the stigma caused by the other Chinese bike companies maybe they will force the Big 4 to innovate some more.

I've been so hyped on these when I went to the local dealership with my buddy to look at a ZX6R. They have a new stock of the 450SS in. The salesman walked up started talking to me about the 450SS. Then I had to tell him everything he was wrong about, all the things he didn't know like the built in GP clutch. 😂😂😂 I ended talking the guy into buying one of his own bikes 😂😂😂

I really enjoy CFMOTO going to several type of bikes and really trying to go after big company and actually making competition in a market that feels stale

you should check out the 650NK and 300NK. I test drove them 2 weeks ago and holy crap really nice bikes, nice stock packages.

Quick question: Is it possible to lower the rear suspension to accommodate a short rider? My daughter is 5'3". Her 2011 Ninja 250r I installed lowering links, it brought the seat down about 3 inches.

I was a little skeptical at first but I think I am going to get it now. Plus it has a 2-year warranty. Thanks for the review!

Well seeing as how it cost almost as much as a Kawasaki I would hope that it would perform at least 90%

Hey Spite. Please review the TVS Apache RR310/ BMW G310RR if you ever get the opportunity....

The thing I love most about CF is for the quality and specs you get with each bike it would be like minimum $2k more from every other major brand.

I’m really surprised Yamaha didn’t put the 270 crank in the R3 and but up the displacement just a hair

The 300SR was so beautiful, and now they made the 450SR which is even more beautiful. However, CF Moto is not a cheap brand. Premium Chinese.

Test rode the cf 300nk & 650nk this past friday “cfdemo day”not gonna lie….leaning towards cfmoto than yamaha….

i sat on a cf moto. i weigh 45kg and im 162cm tall. It was way too heavy for me as the weight placement is higher on sport bikes.

I am wondering if we at the cusp of a new era where the Chinese do to the Japanese what the Japanese did to the British. Could the majority of us be riding Chinese bikes in 5-10 years, and only the upper echelon be riding Japanese/Italian bikes.

Does it only have 3 gears? :o

got about 500 miles on mine - at how many miles should i bring it in to get it serviced for the first time?

there is a 450CLC soon from cf moto.. a classic bike using 450sr engine

I wonder if they'll make an A2 compliant version for Europe since they only need to drop 3hp. I reckon that could allow it to be a big seller here. Especially since there's already a large Chinese market for 125s and even a bit in 250s.

How did your lower half feel compared to the ninja 400? I can’t find a 450ss near me and we’re basically the same size so your opinion will be valuable.

is the SS different with SR? Ive been seeing yt videos review on CF moto 450 SS and 450 SR

Wait what!!!! I wanted a 300 but couldn't find one in white but this now is it!!

Curious about how durable the motors are?

I hope my main man Spite will do a first ride and a review on CFMoto's Ibex ADV bike.

Well, that settles it. Spite has spoken. I'm getting one.

Hysung are Built in South Korea are Awesome Motorcycles

I’m 6’6 220lb and a 34in inseam do you think I’d fit on this bike?

It costs as much as a Ninja 400 here, or around €7500. There's 2 main issues here that'd keep someone like me from buying them. The biggest one is not having any dealers nearby. The other one is there's no real used market for them. A used Ninja 400 is cheaper, and if/when you want to move on to a bigger bike, you won't be losing much money on it. Meanwhile the CFmoto probably tanks in value the second you buy it. Still, very exciting to see this competition for the best A2 sports bik., Aprilia is also working on a RS440, I wonder how competitively priced that'll be.

Hey spite I just bought a 450ss in the red and black color I was wondering how you mounted your insta 360 looking to mount it there

WoW, For Spite to really like it. It must be a sweat ride. Because he is a very honest rider.

I'd like to see someone compare CF Moto to Hyosung. See which engine blows a gasket first.

I’m an experienced rider and got one because it caught my eye at a dealership. Let me just start off with it’s an amazing experience. I like it more than my h2! I have a few other bikes as well and this one beats them all. Every turn is fun, the looks make me happy and all the aftermarket parts are affordable. I put a slip on exhaust on and it sounds like a smaller ducati 899. The features beat all other sport bikes in the category and in the Facebook groups no one has had an issue with theirs. This bike absolutely kicks the other brands in the pants and they better start to rethink their beginner models. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I’ll get back with you.

I really do think though, dealerships need to step up their game. Shitcan the little markups and get an honest price on the bike. I know they’re there to make money it just pisses me off royally that there’s an extra $1100 tacked onto the out the door price. I know not all dealerships are this way but they need to step up their game and really start focussing on the consumer and bring value to the marketplace. The fact that you can get some Chinese motorcycles in the United States mailed right to your front doorstep and then an afternoon go through it have it running and save some serious coin does not go well for the dealerships. Most people do not want to feel like they got bent over!

I have long hair and ride. My ponytail has got rekt from riding, honestly I think I've lost a bunch from tangling and breakage. Or I'm just getting old. What are your tips for taking care of that awesome mane?

They need that engine in an adventure bike with a 400lb or less wet weight with cruise control. Till then ill keep my Aprilia Tuareg 😉

Did you have it in eco mode the whole time?

My only complaint with this bike, is that if you finance it and need full coverage insurance, be ready to pay like 400+ per month. Only reason im going with a different bike lol

Sure are a lot of comments on this thread that are hypocritical. "I won't buy Chinese it sucks" while posting from a desktop computer or phone that is made in China driving a Ford Raptor that has lots of Chinese “subassemblies” (“Globally sourced” is the term they like to use) imported from China for final assembly in a US factory. Even the new Harley MSF bikes are made in China. Not defending all the shit China does, just saying these CFMoto bikes are not your usual Chinese POS bikes of the past. The positive of this is it can force the Big 4 to bring high end features down to the lower end price points (like cruise control) to compete.

if you think cfmoto's alright, try the real buzz bike in their home market ---Kove's 450RR(4 cylinder).

what helmet are you wearing in this vid?

How is the vibration cruising at 75 mph? Most critical thing left out. 😮