To add salt to the injury, there had been an image floating around of 5 Type 052DL under construction at the same time in a single dockyard in Dalian. That’s more than the number of destroyers that the Royal Navy can put to sea at the moment.
@The136th Жыл бұрын
That's just one shipyeard PLAN is laying down 10 052D in 2023
@TP-ie3hj Жыл бұрын
in Bohai they just finished the new yard for Subs crazy as it sounds 20 construction halls. Not saying they will build 20 ssn/ssbn at one time but they can....insane
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
@Tylerrr324 maintenance is only a problem if you don't have the shipyards when your ships need it.
@The136th Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 Good thing most shipyards in the world are in China then
@sw36jl Жыл бұрын
@tylerrr3242 They are aware of that, they studied the Soviet Union's collapse intently, but tbh right now the Chinese navy is undersized for its economy, especially since they are decommissioning a lot of old vessels. The new standardized vessels will actually streamline maintenance and also reduce costs of upkeep with the expertise in construction developed, plus the civilian shipyards experience (China produces like 45+% of world's ships, South Korea the other half or so.
@severinvika570 Жыл бұрын
The yj 18 missile has a detachable warhead carrying rocket for supersonic terminal phase.
@ningshanwang831 Жыл бұрын
FYI, YJ 18's max range is more than 500 km, in fact around 600 km.
@xenoaltrax485 Жыл бұрын
The "TV antenna" is for the type-517 radar, it looks that way because it's made up of multiple Yagi antennas operating in the VHF band. The longer wavelengths of VHF band give the radar a better chance of detecting stealth aircraft, since longer wavelengths can result in electromagnetic scattering in the Mie or Rayleigh regions which is less affected by optical region scattering due to stealth shaping techniques.
@xenaguy01 Жыл бұрын
6:00 If properly equipped, helicopters can be a useful tool for long range detection of surface vessels.
@armymanaka360 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Royal Navy doesn’t have AWACS planes so they just use a bunch of AWACS merlin helicopters which is actually better than a single AWACS because if one goes down the others just account for it
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@armymanaka360 Type 45 can in theory carry one Merlin HM1/HM2 or two Lynxes, The HM1 has better air surveillance capabilities but is still primarily an anti-surface type, the Lynx is optimised for surface search. There are a handful of Merlin HM2s some of which are fitted with Crowsnest air surveillance RADAR - these are in such short supply they will be reserved for carrier operations. So while in theory Type 45 can carry (and is cleared to carry) the “AWAC” anti-air variant of Merlin - it does not in practice due to a severe shortage of those types.
@armymanaka360 Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee I was referring to their use in csg21
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@armymanaka360 Sure in exercises they will deploy them but in reality there aren't enough Merlins to satisfy actual RN requirements - particularly those fitted with Crowsnest.
@AmirShafeek10 ай бұрын
@@armymanaka360No competent navy puts up a single a wax plane at a time. Let's take a look at the US navy. Aboard every single Carrier, there's 4 a wax planes. And there's 2 a wax being used when in a combat environment. And if you can shoot down an a rocks plane, you are probably able to shoot down an a wax helicopter a whole lot easier.
@michaelcampbell2650 Жыл бұрын
I am British but have always said we need to double the amount of VLS silos on board our Type 45, as it is an anti air destroyer, but I feel they insufficient amount of missiles carried for that role.
@montys420- Жыл бұрын
Arent CAM and CAM-ER cells being added??
@Dawnbandit1 Жыл бұрын
@@montys420- Yes, to part of the ship that was designed for the MK41 VLS. Apparently there may even be room for Sylver A70 cells further astern of where the CAMM launchers are going.
@JobMainland Жыл бұрын
u needs more ship....
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
And the lack of point defence means it has to be escorted by Type 23 - not clever when you are a tiny Navy trying to police the globe.
@samhawkes6597 Жыл бұрын
They are currently upgrading the weapons systems in the type 45's, of which one of the upgrads increases the amount of missiles each ship has from 48 to 72
@user-xd9ss7ru7m Жыл бұрын
YJ18 will be pulled up and accelerated to Mach 3 in the last period of attack, so this simulator does not actually simulate the real attack mode of YJ18.
@nirvana3921 Жыл бұрын
The YJ-18 is not China's most advanced anti-ship missile. However, the YJ-21 is, a hypersonic weapon. And the firing range is 800-1000km. As long as their relay guidance system is reliable. It is quite capable of launching a fatal attack on enemy ships from a distance of 900km.
@ahboon8101 Жыл бұрын
Y21 250-2500km
@nirvana3921 Жыл бұрын
@@ahboon8101 Your data is not reliable. 2500 km is too far for anti-ship missiles. It is unlikely to reach.
@user-fs9kc1vo4o Жыл бұрын
@@ahboon8101 A range of 2000 kilometers is impossible. The official parameters released by the Chinese military are: full flight at Mach 6, terminal speed at Mach 10
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but just a simple manouver and you are defeated that "ultimate" weapon... Hypersonic right? When the missile enters back to the atmosphere it will build up a "plasma" around itself because of the thickness of the air... The plasma will block everything. Guidance systems the missile radars everything. They will just fly to the "last known location". A quick reaction and a change of direction from the ships will defeat that missile. There is no way with that powerfull radar what the Type 45 got can not see a freaking missile coming down from the "space..." S band AESA Radar with 400km range like come on... Hypersonic missiles are good vs stationary targets... Go read about them and research about them. + the problem here too is the way how the Type 45 vessels wasting 10 missiles on 1 target.... One target one missile, this is what the Royal Navy stated. One target one missile... Not 10 missiles to the same target, thats wasting... Like literally wasting.... 1 target 1 Aster 30 or 15 depending on the range. Shame that it doesnt work in DCSs... Same about the Chinese Type 052D or 055 just wasting missiles for nothing. ONE TARGET ONE MISSILE. Such an easy thing to fix in the game but the DCs developers dont care about it.
@nirvana3921 Жыл бұрын
@@sulyokpeter3941 The important parameters of the YJ-21 supersonic anti-ship missile were officially disclosed, this missile can carry out hypersonic cruise flight at a speed of Mach 6, and its terminal attack stage speed can reach up to Mach 10, which is also the world's first combat deployment of shipborne hypersonic anti-ship missiles, with 6 times the speed of sound cruise flight and 10 times the speed of sound terminal attack, the current global active air defense and anti-missile interception systems, can not carry out effective interception methods. Hypersonic missiles rely on infrared guidance to strike moving targets.
@user-lt6ke9hg8f Жыл бұрын
Our Chinese 052D is only suitable for fishing. will not engage in war. . 052D is peaceful 052D.
@ddong9643 Жыл бұрын
Cannot agree more!. Indian navy is the strongest in the world. I strongly recommend UK and US seriously treat this mighty military power.
@larrysaul3795 Жыл бұрын
That is so TRUE. 052D is used for bombing fish.
@randlebrowne2048 Жыл бұрын
@@larrysaul3795 Or rival fishing boats...
@keyboardmanyoutube3189 Жыл бұрын
@@larrysaul3795 yeah, hope Uncle Sam don’t threat China no more.
@user-li2ww6em3f Жыл бұрын
全是战忽局的同志啊🎉
@pilot_howie237 Жыл бұрын
Asters, especially the 30s are much much better than modded here. They are known to be better than the American SM family missiles when paired with the type 45’s incredibly powerful and accurate radars. Yes, I agree they don’t have enough but I’m afraid the Type 45’s and the asters are much much better than modded in DCS.
@99IronDuke Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree wit you on this.
@georud54 Жыл бұрын
The Aster missiles seem broken, in the sense they fire way too early and are useless when they actually reach their target
@georgedang449 Жыл бұрын
In this case, their targets are VASTLY harder to hit than the typical subsonic antiship missiles they're designed to intercept.
@georud54 Жыл бұрын
@@georgedang449 true but the missiles do seem more effective when they fire later on and intercept with more speed. Also, as they discuss in the video, the Chinese missile should be subsonic until the terminal phase when it goes supersonic
@dabo5078 Жыл бұрын
@@georud54 Well later firing means less time to intercept and more chance something will get through.
@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617 Жыл бұрын
We never learned a single lesson from the Falklands. Over specialised ships, lack of anti ship capabilities, aluminium hulls and a complete lack of AWACs and EWACs. Cost us men and ships! Not nearly enough ships!
@XkMeng Жыл бұрын
In the battle just now, the Royal Navy of the British Empire lost 2/3 of all destroyers
@Chickenworm9394 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha so much for the Royal Navy XD
@Ukfairgrounds Жыл бұрын
@@Chickenworm9394 🤡
@mshahmirraza Жыл бұрын
Chinese carrier battle group is now complete so we can expect some naval war games now.
@frederickzhou7464 Жыл бұрын
actually in reality,Royal navy only have 6 type 45 and PLAN have nearly 30 type 052D. so each type 45 should against 5 type 052d in the same time.
@Chickenworm9394 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention China's most advanced Type 055, eight of them already commissioned, and eight more to be launched in a year or two.
@Ukfairgrounds Жыл бұрын
Not all of them will be able to be used chines navy is more of a coastal defence force lacks logistics to even go fair britian will use type23 frigates along with the 45a and f35bs plus the rest of NATO’s navel power witch fight together
@todox277 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the german F124 in DCS. 32 cells with mostly ESSM and some SM-2`s, as well as 2 RAM-Launchers with each 21 missiles. 8 NSM and 2 MLG 27 CIWS from Rheinmetall. As far as I know there are also 3D Models of the ship available online.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I didn;t even realise Germany had Frigates. Cool.
@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын
Said this on the previous video and I'll say again here. Sorry, but the Type 45 just isn't modelled correctly. They were literally designed to track and destroy targets like the YJ-18. Here's a quote from 2009: "Daring’s PAAMS air defence system can track over 1,000 objects simultaneously and order the ship’s 48 Aster missiles to destroy a tennis-ball sized target travelling at Mach 3." That is a harder target than the YJ-18. They also do this with an almost 90% efficacy rate due to their thrust-vectoring known as 'pif-paf'. Type 45s have the ability to deconflict targets with other Type 45s and NATO ships. On the mod, not only were lots of missiles missing, but they were also not being deconflicted at all.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
The RADAR is incredible - nobody really knows how good various ASTER missiles are - they've not really been used in anger.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
yes the YJ18s are massively overpowered in this game, they should be easy to shoot down in their cruise phase when they're all moving subsonic.
@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 they shouldn't be *that* difficult to shoot down in their terminal phase either. Mach 3 isn't that much of a challenge anymore. Type 45 has been doing tests as far back as 2020 against hypersonic targets and, while not perfect, it has faired better than a lot of people expected it to. This will be improved with the upgraded Sea Cepter that was discussed in the video. It'll also likely mean the removal of the Aster15 missiles and replaced with a full compliment of 48 Aster 30. But even before this, the YJ-18 should simply be an easy target for the Type 45 with a deconflicted almost 1-1 kill ratio, because that's exactly what this ship was designed to do and was capable of doing it way back in 2009.
@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee same goes for most missiles, but they have been used extensively in testing and they have a great reputation for a reason. Friend of mine was serving on one during some NATO training before the ABs got their latest upgrades. He said that the rest of the NATO ships asked for the Type 45s to stop reacting because none of the other NATO ships were getting any training value. The Type 45 was detecting, tracking, engaging, and destroying all of the targets before the other ships could start tracking them.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@skatman3278 Yes, they are bleeding edge in a few ways - interesting that the modelling chose to use ASTER 30 in engagements where ASTER 15 would be the correct choice. ASTER 15 has enough problems with minimum engagement profile - let alone ASTER 30! Terrible modelling.
@totalnerd5674 Жыл бұрын
Will be nice to see this in future videos! Wasn't expecting this!
@killsomethin Жыл бұрын
Friendly warning , if u had epilepsy, when cap uses the sea wiz u may want to cover ur eyes . My gawd those flashes were fast and a lot .
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the Type-45 is that it only has one set of VLS whereas the Type-052Ds and Type-055s have two. The Type-45 is what happens when you build a warship on a budget that has been gutted to nothing. One future battle I would love to see is a combined flotilla of 052Ds and 055s vs a combined flotilla of Burkes and Ticos.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Yes it's criminal - when the Navy accepted the order to be cut to 6 (from 12) Destroyers the promise was the remaining 6 are fully equipped to their full potential - pah - nowhere near!
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee Did the original plan also call for the ships to have two sets of VLS?
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
As long as we get to watch it to the end and not just when the missiles run out.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@Stinger522 That design never made it off the drawing board.
@christophero55 Жыл бұрын
Dang! SEIZURE WARNING 7:56 That muzzle flash off the 30mm made my brain hurt lol. To CH, could you be persuaded to add another camera angle for firing ship guns that is further back away from the muzzle flash? It obscures the impact. We like to see our booms. 🙂
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! now china finally has all its principle surface combatants modelled. I guess what you could try to implement next would be some Type 022s fast attack boats or wait for the Type 054B to come out this year.
@jorehir Жыл бұрын
As i mentioned in more detail in the last Type 45 video, the Asters are way under-modeled. I suspect the "pif-paf" system isn't even modeled.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
And it fired ASTER 30 against targets that would be intercepted by ASTER 15.
@99IronDuke Жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@WolvesValleyFarm9 ай бұрын
The thing that makes the Chinese navy so dangerous isn't just that their ships pack so many missiles. It's that all of their modern ships are built to form a single integrated force. The 055 and 052D for example are practically the same ship, just one is (a lot) bigger. That means ships share the same systems which greatly simplifies operations and makes them more effective when working together. It also means it's a lot easier to train crew as knowledge and skills will translate between vessels. It makes the ships cheaper too because of economies of scale, which also makes them faster to build, repair and easier to upgrade. An added benefit to all of that is the momentum of development in the Chinese navy. Due to the sheer number of ships being build the navy as well as the shipyards gain a lot of experience very quickly. We see this being translated in fast incremental upgrades to their ships. For example, the first type 055 ships were built with engines producing 30% more power than needed, implying improvements were already expected, and indeed there are already rumors that the latest type 055 ships under construction will be commissioned as type 055A upgraded ships. The same goes for the type 054 frigates. With 50 planned type 054A ships, of which 30 are commissioned and another 20 are either still planned or already under construction. While at the same time, China launched the first type 054B in August, with a second to be launched soon and possibly more already under construction. There simply isn't any other navy in the world that can produce that many ships at that speed. Let alone continuously upgrade them as they are building them.
@BlackHawkTejas3 ай бұрын
A load of BS, with nothing to back it up! china has been saying a lot of things, but their wares don't prove themselves.
@simonyip5978 Жыл бұрын
RN has 6 x Type 45, the PLA Navy has 40 x Type 052C/D/DL.
@Alexei_99 Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see the hobart-class destroyer and type 45 together.
@slslbbn4096 Жыл бұрын
Ah the Imperial master and the expendable Australian Cannon fodder. Brings back sweet memories of Gallipoli all over again
@hzc8942 Жыл бұрын
Time for Agentina to buy some 052D LOL
@Sumppen Жыл бұрын
Obviously 52 is better than 45. UK needs to rename their ships!
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Type 999????
@Sumppen Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers That’ll do the trick (at least until chinese lauch their type 1001)
@michaelwheatley8394 Жыл бұрын
I think the prices of the type-45s wrong - you are quoting the first in class, which was sold/billed to the government with a lot of testing/debug work attached to it. In contrast, when I looked it up in Hansard, HMS Dragon had a "net book value" of £343m one year after launch, which is what the giovernment had spent on it in total up to that point.
@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын
It’s a GREAT DAY! Good job, CH!
@anderstroberg3704 Жыл бұрын
Just as a point of reference, MACH3 is roughly twice the speed of a rifle bullet, give or take. No wonder they are hard to hit.
@c0ldyloxproductions324 Жыл бұрын
The older radar is China trying to counter stealth cause supposedly the modern stealth works against modern radar but not older radar
@richardpatton6691 Жыл бұрын
Loving all of CH's work. Would be cool if he added the Zumwalt with its hypersonic missile refit. I know it's a bit of a disaster of a ship in reality, but man do I love it anyway.
@georgedang449 Жыл бұрын
What hypersonic missile?
@dht1247 Жыл бұрын
@@georgedang449 Yo 21
@shackvan Жыл бұрын
Proves why Type 45 defiantly needs the extra CAMM cells..... Not sure if it could be modelled but the ASTER missile uses a Piff-Paff system for terminal maneuvering specifically for dealing with very fast anti ship missiles and to give (probably) best in class terminal maneuvering ability, which doesn't seem to be fully accounted for here. has the very low RCS of NSM also been modelled?
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Sea Ceptor was supposed to be the solution to the lack of missile problem, freeing up VLS cells for all ASTER 30s, or a mixture of ASTER 30 and NT if we decide to buy in to the project - NATO want us to convert Type 45 into a fully-fledged anti ICBM platform - the RADAR has already passed trials in this application. But constant critical underfunding has left Type 45 in a pitiful state.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
it does make you wonder why western navies are all building new large destroyers with low numbers of VLS. Its like they want to lose.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 Politicians want to destroy the west - they don't work for us.
@fqeagles21 Жыл бұрын
CH the God of DCS
@alex-to8sd Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on if NATO did an amphibious raid on Kuwait during desert storm?
@depressedmango Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid cap
@kevincccc6310 Жыл бұрын
052D actually does carry some HMGs like type 89 HMG and other small arms operating by onboard marines/ship crews. There are lots of pictures and video shows those 052Ds carry mounted HMGs in any operation involving anti-piracy mission. However, I doubt those HMG pods are modified by the ship crews/onboard marines.
@RD-ht6go3 ай бұрын
not necessary. There is the remote-controlled close-in weapon system (CIWG) that is essentially a minigun.
@ShuRugal Жыл бұрын
Brittania has not, in fact, ruled the waves since Jutland. Y'all just been leaning on the US Navy to carry the load. :p
@timphillips9954 Жыл бұрын
Don't be a fool. The American Navy was years late for WW2 and never fired a shot in anger in WW1, LOL.
@ShuRugal Жыл бұрын
@@timphillips9954 "years late for WW2", bro, the fuck you talking about? Without the US Navy safeguarding convoys across the Atlantic, the Brits would never have held out through the blitz while also keeping their interests in the Mediterranean secure. If the US Navy hadn't been taking that load, the Royal Navy would have had to write off North Africa entirely.
@fatdoi003 Жыл бұрын
my advise is UK carrier group should not sail to SCS anytime soon...
@brianmcdonald2696 Жыл бұрын
Great job CH. Truth sometimes sucks but it is what it is. Thanks GR!
@nigeldepledge3790 Жыл бұрын
We may have had too few missiles, but we have the best music . . . Rule Britannia and all that.
@Mobius118 Жыл бұрын
At this point we could do a destroyer tournament, with each destroyer facing off one on one to another destroyer until the best one wins!
@mavrikmavrik3032 Жыл бұрын
Binkov says that one ship like this, specifically the one helecopter, could have completely changed the battle of Midway. I wonder if you guys could validate his assumptions.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yup we can do that.
@johngodden43639 ай бұрын
My suggestion to our dear British friends is to build your type 26 frigates as the upgunned missile frigate variant currently being offered to the Australian Navy, whereby the multi mission bay is being sacrificed and replaced with a second VLS ( 64 cells) giving it a total of 96 VLS & four quad packs of NSM ( ie 16 anti ship missiles )
@lenschen3063 Жыл бұрын
052d is widely used in fishing to satisfy huge population demand.
@duckmartin9853 Жыл бұрын
I know that there is some issues and possibly some inaccuracies with the type 45 but I do hope that in the future we will get the type 45 with its upgraded SAMPSON multifunction radar plus it's extra Sea ceptor missiles and it's upgraded Aster 30 block 1 NT missile's !!
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Type 45s are critically under-funded - we learned nothing from the Falklands.
@user-wr8sm6jp6j2 ай бұрын
问题是CAMM ER只是计划增强中近距离防空,类似海麻雀导弹。
@user-wr8sm6jp6j2 ай бұрын
block30 1NT That is to say, the interception slant range reached 150 kilometers.
@Wilko601st Жыл бұрын
CH thanks for the model Cap thanks for the boom boom
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Pleasure
@patricktracy4371 Жыл бұрын
kick ass, watching. thank you vvvvv
@armymanaka360 Жыл бұрын
Well this is a mod and not accurate (I’m trying to cope)
@lukio12 Жыл бұрын
All british/european stuff is way underpowered in all these videos. The aster 30 struggling to take down the chinese missiles when there have been multiple tests confirming aster 30 can shoot down supersonic (mach 2.5) ski skimming missiles
@woollysheep6320 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Daniel-yh9dz Жыл бұрын
Avoiding or denying the existence of the problem is not a healthy coping strategy. Nor is it healthy to get angry or surrender yourself to the problem. Better to accept the problem, and start fixing it. In this context, it means the Royal Navy (and European navies in general) needs more and better warships. Preferably ASAP.
@apolloaero Жыл бұрын
@lukio12 Exactly that, the GQM-163 Coyote is both smaller in diameter and length than the YJ-18 while flying a sea-skimming height of 5m and flying over mach 2.5 The Aster-30 was tested and succeeded against this, the same target drones the US uses. These same drones can fly at up to mach 4 terminal speed if flying from a higher altitude before doing a terminal dive. YJ-18 estimated at about 24' in length and 20" diameter, Coyote is about 18' in length and 14" diameter. I think it'd be more fair to also model decoys for other ships. For example, Arleigh Burke can have up to 8 Nulka and with Mk36 it'd be 36 more decoys since it uses mod 12 and it could potentially be FLYRT as the decoys loaded up. Not to mention the IDS300 floating decoys used also by the Royal Navy
@lukio12 Жыл бұрын
@@apolloaero Yh would be really good if they could find a way to implement the decoy systems that navies operate.
@niemanon Жыл бұрын
Can you guys model the Chinese Sovremenny-class destroyer after its refitting? They installed new missile systems on Hangzhou (136) and enchanced its air defences. I think China will upgrade in the similar way the rest three vessels of Sovremenny-class in their posession.
@wuqixiang9633 Жыл бұрын
why bother upgrade 。。。 just get more 052d
@totalnerd5674 Жыл бұрын
Respect for CH! Are there plans to do the Type 21 frigate next?
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Will ask.
@Davros-vi4qg Жыл бұрын
Whoop… boom, boom, mini bam, bam! Wonderful!
@CaptainCockerels Жыл бұрын
Great Video per usual
@dreadlord76 Жыл бұрын
Can you mod the Chinese fleets so they actually try a saturation attack, rather than so much waiting? At minimum, it seems they should shoot at least 2-3 ASMs per target per salvo.
@marinuslubbe3993 Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining video once again, thank you for chucking out content in this rate. Just one small thing. Could you make the money counter a little bit bigger? Because it's kinda hard to read, you have to really focus. If it was a little bigger it still wouldn't block the screen but it would be easier to read.
@peribe438 Жыл бұрын
Hi Cap! You make my evening👍
@jpracing893 Жыл бұрын
Royal Navy really need to hurry up with those upgrades to the Type 45 and give her the the increased VLS space. Think 24 extra missiles.
@The136th Жыл бұрын
052D use the same VLS as 055, so they would have YJ-21 as well. 055 is basically a bigger 052 with better sensors and sub systems, they uses the same weapons
@The136th Жыл бұрын
@@cj64343 nope, that standard comes in 3, 7 and 9m. Both YJ18 and YJ18 uses the 9m vls.
@The136th Жыл бұрын
@@cj64343 from what I read, both 052d and 055 has 9m vls. Those cell are for cj10, yj18 and yj21
@The136th Жыл бұрын
@@cj64343 >classified docs I seriously doubt the PLAN will let you see their classified docs
@The136th Жыл бұрын
@@cj64343 post link then
@The136th Жыл бұрын
@@cj64343 "just trust be bro" is not a source
@trevorday7923 Жыл бұрын
My god, that CIWS is just the Woodchipper from Hell 😧😧
@thalo215 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I recently did some testing and found that 5 Visbys could take down a 055 but I'm not certain I set it up correctly. Might be worth running through your tests.
@slslbbn4096 Жыл бұрын
Our testing also showed the US can't handle a simple coronavirus outbreak. Over a million dead for a weapon that can be reengineered for less than a million bucks
@lenn55 Жыл бұрын
Can you give the ASMs a more unpredictable path to their targets rather than just firing them all on the same vector? In real life the NSM can be programmed to fly to different waypoints, ect before reaching their targets.
@randalljones4370 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the L-band radar on that to 'find' stealth aircraft? .. not good for pinpointing stealth, but good at determining they are out there somewhere.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Yes, but modern AESA RADAR should have that capability too - Type 45 can track "stealth" aircraft at the maximum range dictated by the earth's curvature without resorting to longer wavelength RADAR. It shows that the Chinese systems are inferior to the Wests' - as long as they work I guess...
@lightbenderga2017 Жыл бұрын
Neato.
@jameshewitt8828 Жыл бұрын
Boooom first. Cap I’m taking my son to the Duxford summer air show on june 24th (I think) and tickets for the goodwood festival of speed.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@TelpPov Жыл бұрын
It’s not about which ship has slight edge. China shipyards can build entire royal navy tonnage in a year. It’s not even a comparison of same class navies
@andrewsmall6834 Жыл бұрын
Model in the Australian Hobart class destroyer and that'll be a good match up.
@superflyguy4488 Жыл бұрын
Warrior has been ingame for years, this version is maybe a higher fidelity version.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Maybe I just missed it!
@steinfrick677 Жыл бұрын
It's always fun to watch these fights that never happen. Poor British army boys can't escape from a Chinese warship even in a navy video.😂😂
@asia-chik6346 Жыл бұрын
Are you planning on adding Chinese Frigates and Corvettes models to DCS? Any amphibious ships maybe?
@Chickenworm93947 ай бұрын
That goes 2/3 of the Royal Navy's destroyer fleet
@spiritualconnection4327 Жыл бұрын
Next type 54 frigate vs birtish destroyer
@mfreed40k Жыл бұрын
Again there is the issue of not the target not turning out from the threat. Maybe wouldn't be that helpful but it would allow for overlapping coverage.
@Cadenkellner23 Жыл бұрын
what other ships are in the works
@MrBdoleagle Жыл бұрын
Great video. More please.
@canconservative8976 Жыл бұрын
Ships are the hidden Gem of DCS... Would be great if they created a standard bridge to control these awesome machines instead of having to use the F10 menu.
@rotoface5469 Жыл бұрын
kirov vs type 45 or type 052D
@bearcatracing007 Жыл бұрын
Real question is can a type 45 take out 334 killer robot cows?
@AusExplorer Жыл бұрын
Surely if you were a naval weapon designer making weapons that might be used against Chinese vessels, you'd be giving them attack patterns that prefer frontal approach to take out the C&C first and avoid the close-in missile systems? Also, if you can't link the ships for whatever reason, why do 4v4 and not just 1v1?
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
so far I've yet to see antiship weapons do midcourse corrections or have pre-programmed flightpaths in DCS
@AusExplorer Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 Yeah I get that, I just mean IRL, having seen that the new Chinese ships seem to have a bunch of their defensive weapons at the rear half of the ship.
@Ayeote99 Жыл бұрын
Bloody-Hell, knackered again Guvnuh!
@issactian3143 Жыл бұрын
Saudi Arabia just placed order for 12 ships 052 from China.
@jovianr900 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you don't invest in defence.
@homermorisson9135 Жыл бұрын
The CWIS is amazing, but the muzzle flash is way too pronounced, you can barely see what you're shooting at... should be reduced or optionally even able to be turned off entirely.
@user-xv6vo3kq3y4 ай бұрын
Keep relaxed everyone, this ship 052D was used only for fishing 😅
@FalcoGer Жыл бұрын
ED should just hire the guy. Very high quality mods like this or stuff like the A4 or SRS would be an enrichment for DCS if they were included by default. At the very least an automatic mod downloader for joining servers that have mods, or an automatic updater would be nice.
@shimadwan8251 Жыл бұрын
HMS Prince of Wales will be Destroyed in South China Sea AGAIN😅
@Chickenworm9394 Жыл бұрын
That's if she could sail to South China Sea in one piece
@bf799 Жыл бұрын
What are you doing there? Selling opium? Don't you feel comfortable staying at home?
@shimadwan8251 Жыл бұрын
@@bf799 well my home is near south china sea...percepatkan islands
@cluckingbells Жыл бұрын
Try the same scenario without the fixed wing airborne early warning platforms giving 20/20 battle space vision. Airborne early warning should only come from the aircraft the Destroyers can carry and operate themselves. That way it wouldn't be solely down to who has the biggest magazine of missiles.
@biochemwang2421 Жыл бұрын
Nah, simulation of YJ-18 is not accurate at all: At the final phase, YJ-18 would cast off its wings, accelerate to super-sonic, climb up, and dive toward to the target.
@ryanerickson8138 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to think the NSM performs better in real life otherwise it’s not better than a Harpoon really but with a lower payload
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
British NSM are much worse because - er - we don't have them. We don't have Harpoon either (onboard Type 45) taken off and given to Ukr.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
They're already doing better than harpoons because they weren't engaged until they were
@joshuasenior4370 Жыл бұрын
They are better than Harpoons but be aware, the NSM is specifically designed to be an interim missile whilst FC/ASW is being developed. Hence the reason we bought them over the much, much more expensive LRASM’s and the like. They are purely a.m stop gap measure.
@kevinchan3176 Жыл бұрын
Smile without a word,as long as U are happy
@YWETB Жыл бұрын
Serious question - Type 051B destroyer WHEN?
@Chickenworm9394 Жыл бұрын
Oh come on, 051B is an obsolete design
@BaseSerpentMessmer Жыл бұрын
Could you do the zumwalt just for fun?
@shtorm2616 Жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree a bit with the destroyer v destroyer duels because the west and the east(?) have different doctrines. While China and Russia use their ships as their main attackers(maybe for now, in China's case), western navies use aircraft as their main attackers. Hence Chinese and Russian ships tend to, if not always, have more and better anti-ship weaponry that their western counterparts. Anyway, props to CH for making another well done model!
@abc-id1sq11 ай бұрын
UK doesn't even make its own naval fighter anymore
@wonlop469 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the PAC-3 Patriot will perform when integrated into Burke.
@apolloaero Жыл бұрын
Where did you hear about PAC-3 integration into the Arleigh Burke's Aegis Combat System? The SM-6 already fulfills that role in essence, as does SM-2 and ESSM for much shorter ranges. Plus, SM-3 is there for all sorts of longer ranged ballistic missiles. The SM-3 BlkIIA is even capable of intercepting ICBMs at some stages of flight
@ronaldmelia11727 ай бұрын
So which one of you has ever served? Done a anti missile drill? every shot down an enemy missile?
@Chickenworm93947 ай бұрын
No. Have you?
@brckshouse3660 Жыл бұрын
Comments for the bump
@JobMainland Жыл бұрын
how dare the British navy come to south China sea with such weak escort?
@anirecapped.9 ай бұрын
You guy need to hit a brake on the SAM expenditure rate or rather the wastage rate.
@MrBdoleagle Жыл бұрын
YJ, or short for YingJi in Chinese, means Eagle Swoop.