To add salt to the injury, there had been an image floating around of 5 Type 052DL under construction at the same time in a single dockyard in Dalian. That’s more than the number of destroyers that the Royal Navy can put to sea at the moment.

The yj 18 missile has a detachable warhead carrying rocket for supersonic terminal phase.

FYI, YJ 18's max range is more than 500 km, in fact around 600 km.

The "TV antenna" is for the type-517 radar, it looks that way because it's made up of multiple Yagi antennas operating in the VHF band. The longer wavelengths of VHF band give the radar a better chance of detecting stealth aircraft, since longer wavelengths can result in electromagnetic scattering in the Mie or Rayleigh regions which is less affected by optical region scattering due to stealth shaping techniques.

6:00 If properly equipped, helicopters can be a useful tool for long range detection of surface vessels.

I am British but have always said we need to double the amount of VLS silos on board our Type 45, as it is an anti air destroyer, but I feel they insufficient amount of missiles carried for that role.

YJ18 will be pulled up and accelerated to Mach 3 in the last period of attack, so this simulator does not actually simulate the real attack mode of YJ18.

The YJ-18 is not China's most advanced anti-ship missile. However, the YJ-21 is, a hypersonic weapon. And the firing range is 800-1000km. As long as their relay guidance system is reliable. It is quite capable of launching a fatal attack on enemy ships from a distance of 900km.

Our Chinese 052D is only suitable for fishing. will not engage in war. . 052D is peaceful 052D.

Asters, especially the 30s are much much better than modded here. They are known to be better than the American SM family missiles when paired with the type 45’s incredibly powerful and accurate radars. Yes, I agree they don’t have enough but I’m afraid the Type 45’s and the asters are much much better than modded in DCS.

The Aster missiles seem broken, in the sense they fire way too early and are useless when they actually reach their target

We never learned a single lesson from the Falklands. Over specialised ships, lack of anti ship capabilities, aluminium hulls and a complete lack of AWACs and EWACs. Cost us men and ships! Not nearly enough ships!

In the battle just now, the Royal Navy of the British Empire lost 2/3 of all destroyers

Chinese carrier battle group is now complete so we can expect some naval war games now.

actually in reality，Royal navy only have 6 type 45 and PLAN have nearly 30 type 052D. so each type 45 should against 5 type 052d in the same time.

Would love to see the german F124 in DCS. 32 cells with mostly ESSM and some SM-2`s, as well as 2 RAM-Launchers with each 21 missiles. 8 NSM and 2 MLG 27 CIWS from Rheinmetall. As far as I know there are also 3D Models of the ship available online.

Said this on the previous video and I'll say again here. Sorry, but the Type 45 just isn't modelled correctly. They were literally designed to track and destroy targets like the YJ-18. Here's a quote from 2009: "Daring’s PAAMS air defence system can track over 1,000 objects simultaneously and order the ship’s 48 Aster missiles to destroy a tennis-ball sized target travelling at Mach 3." That is a harder target than the YJ-18. They also do this with an almost 90% efficacy rate due to their thrust-vectoring known as 'pif-paf'. Type 45s have the ability to deconflict targets with other Type 45s and NATO ships. On the mod, not only were lots of missiles missing, but they were also not being deconflicted at all.

Will be nice to see this in future videos! Wasn't expecting this!

Friendly warning , if u had epilepsy, when cap uses the sea wiz u may want to cover ur eyes . My gawd those flashes were fast and a lot .

The problem with the Type-45 is that it only has one set of VLS whereas the Type-052Ds and Type-055s have two. The Type-45 is what happens when you build a warship on a budget that has been gutted to nothing. One future battle I would love to see is a combined flotilla of 052Ds and 055s vs a combined flotilla of Burkes and Ticos.

Dang! SEIZURE WARNING 7:56 That muzzle flash off the 30mm made my brain hurt lol. To CH, could you be persuaded to add another camera angle for firing ship guns that is further back away from the muzzle flash? It obscures the impact. We like to see our booms. 🙂

Fantastic! now china finally has all its principle surface combatants modelled. I guess what you could try to implement next would be some Type 022s fast attack boats or wait for the Type 054B to come out this year.

As i mentioned in more detail in the last Type 45 video, the Asters are way under-modeled. I suspect the "pif-paf" system isn't even modeled.

The thing that makes the Chinese navy so dangerous isn't just that their ships pack so many missiles. It's that all of their modern ships are built to form a single integrated force. The 055 and 052D for example are practically the same ship, just one is (a lot) bigger. That means ships share the same systems which greatly simplifies operations and makes them more effective when working together. It also means it's a lot easier to train crew as knowledge and skills will translate between vessels. It makes the ships cheaper too because of economies of scale, which also makes them faster to build, repair and easier to upgrade. An added benefit to all of that is the momentum of development in the Chinese navy. Due to the sheer number of ships being build the navy as well as the shipyards gain a lot of experience very quickly. We see this being translated in fast incremental upgrades to their ships. For example, the first type 055 ships were built with engines producing 30% more power than needed, implying improvements were already expected, and indeed there are already rumors that the latest type 055 ships under construction will be commissioned as type 055A upgraded ships. The same goes for the type 054 frigates. With 50 planned type 054A ships, of which 30 are commissioned and another 20 are either still planned or already under construction. While at the same time, China launched the first type 054B in August, with a second to be launched soon and possibly more already under construction. There simply isn't any other navy in the world that can produce that many ships at that speed. Let alone continuously upgrade them as they are building them.

RN has 6 x Type 45, the PLA Navy has 40 x Type 052C/D/DL.

It would be awesome to see the hobart-class destroyer and type 45 together.

Time for Agentina to buy some 052D LOL

Obviously 52 is better than 45. UK needs to rename their ships!

I think the prices of the type-45s wrong - you are quoting the first in class, which was sold/billed to the government with a lot of testing/debug work attached to it. In contrast, when I looked it up in Hansard, HMS Dragon had a "net book value" of £343m one year after launch, which is what the giovernment had spent on it in total up to that point.

It’s a GREAT DAY! Good job, CH!

Just as a point of reference, MACH3 is roughly twice the speed of a rifle bullet, give or take. No wonder they are hard to hit.

The older radar is China trying to counter stealth cause supposedly the modern stealth works against modern radar but not older radar

Loving all of CH's work. Would be cool if he added the Zumwalt with its hypersonic missile refit. I know it's a bit of a disaster of a ship in reality, but man do I love it anyway.

Proves why Type 45 defiantly needs the extra CAMM cells..... Not sure if it could be modelled but the ASTER missile uses a Piff-Paff system for terminal maneuvering specifically for dealing with very fast anti ship missiles and to give (probably) best in class terminal maneuvering ability, which doesn't seem to be fully accounted for here. has the very low RCS of NSM also been modelled?

CH the God of DCS

Can you do a video on if NATO did an amphibious raid on Kuwait during desert storm?

Awesome vid cap

052D actually does carry some HMGs like type 89 HMG and other small arms operating by onboard marines/ship crews. There are lots of pictures and video shows those 052Ds carry mounted HMGs in any operation involving anti-piracy mission. However, I doubt those HMG pods are modified by the ship crews/onboard marines.

Brittania has not, in fact, ruled the waves since Jutland. Y'all just been leaning on the US Navy to carry the load. :p

my advise is UK carrier group should not sail to SCS anytime soon...

Great job CH. Truth sometimes sucks but it is what it is. Thanks GR!

We may have had too few missiles, but we have the best music . . . Rule Britannia and all that.

At this point we could do a destroyer tournament, with each destroyer facing off one on one to another destroyer until the best one wins!

Binkov says that one ship like this, specifically the one helecopter, could have completely changed the battle of Midway. I wonder if you guys could validate his assumptions.

My suggestion to our dear British friends is to build your type 26 frigates as the upgunned missile frigate variant currently being offered to the Australian Navy, whereby the multi mission bay is being sacrificed and replaced with a second VLS ( 64 cells) giving it a total of 96 VLS & four quad packs of NSM ( ie 16 anti ship missiles )

052d is widely used in fishing to satisfy huge population demand.

I know that there is some issues and possibly some inaccuracies with the type 45 but I do hope that in the future we will get the type 45 with its upgraded SAMPSON multifunction radar plus it's extra Sea ceptor missiles and it's upgraded Aster 30 block 1 NT missile's !!

CH thanks for the model Cap thanks for the boom boom

kick ass, watching. thank you vvvvv

Well this is a mod and not accurate (I’m trying to cope)

Can you guys model the Chinese Sovremenny-class destroyer after its refitting? They installed new missile systems on Hangzhou (136) and enchanced its air defences. I think China will upgrade in the similar way the rest three vessels of Sovremenny-class in their posession.

Respect for CH! Are there plans to do the Type 21 frigate next?

Whoop… boom, boom, mini bam, bam! Wonderful!

Great Video per usual

Can you mod the Chinese fleets so they actually try a saturation attack, rather than so much waiting? At minimum, it seems they should shoot at least 2-3 ASMs per target per salvo.

Very entertaining video once again, thank you for chucking out content in this rate. Just one small thing. Could you make the money counter a little bit bigger? Because it's kinda hard to read, you have to really focus. If it was a little bigger it still wouldn't block the screen but it would be easier to read.

Hi Cap! You make my evening👍

Royal Navy really need to hurry up with those upgrades to the Type 45 and give her the the increased VLS space. Think 24 extra missiles.

052D use the same VLS as 055, so they would have YJ-21 as well. 055 is basically a bigger 052 with better sensors and sub systems, they uses the same weapons

My god, that CIWS is just the Woodchipper from Hell 😧😧

Great video. I recently did some testing and found that 5 Visbys could take down a 055 but I'm not certain I set it up correctly. Might be worth running through your tests.

Can you give the ASMs a more unpredictable path to their targets rather than just firing them all on the same vector? In real life the NSM can be programmed to fly to different waypoints, ect before reaching their targets.

Isn't the L-band radar on that to 'find' stealth aircraft? .. not good for pinpointing stealth, but good at determining they are out there somewhere.

Neato.

Boooom first. Cap I’m taking my son to the Duxford summer air show on june 24th (I think) and tickets for the goodwood festival of speed.

It’s not about which ship has slight edge. China shipyards can build entire royal navy tonnage in a year. It’s not even a comparison of same class navies

Model in the Australian Hobart class destroyer and that'll be a good match up.

Warrior has been ingame for years, this version is maybe a higher fidelity version.

It's always fun to watch these fights that never happen. Poor British army boys can't escape from a Chinese warship even in a navy video.😂😂

Are you planning on adding Chinese Frigates and Corvettes models to DCS? Any amphibious ships maybe?

That goes 2/3 of the Royal Navy's destroyer fleet

Next type 54 frigate vs birtish destroyer

Again there is the issue of not the target not turning out from the threat. Maybe wouldn't be that helpful but it would allow for overlapping coverage.

what other ships are in the works

Great video. More please.

Ships are the hidden Gem of DCS... Would be great if they created a standard bridge to control these awesome machines instead of having to use the F10 menu.

kirov vs type 45 or type 052D

Real question is can a type 45 take out 334 killer robot cows?

Surely if you were a naval weapon designer making weapons that might be used against Chinese vessels, you'd be giving them attack patterns that prefer frontal approach to take out the C&C first and avoid the close-in missile systems? Also, if you can't link the ships for whatever reason, why do 4v4 and not just 1v1?

Bloody-Hell, knackered again Guvnuh!

Saudi Arabia just placed order for 12 ships 052 from China.

This is what happens when you don't invest in defence.

The CWIS is amazing, but the muzzle flash is way too pronounced, you can barely see what you're shooting at... should be reduced or optionally even able to be turned off entirely.

Keep relaxed everyone, this ship 052D was used only for fishing 😅

ED should just hire the guy. Very high quality mods like this or stuff like the A4 or SRS would be an enrichment for DCS if they were included by default. At the very least an automatic mod downloader for joining servers that have mods, or an automatic updater would be nice.

HMS Prince of Wales will be Destroyed in South China Sea AGAIN😅

Try the same scenario without the fixed wing airborne early warning platforms giving 20/20 battle space vision. Airborne early warning should only come from the aircraft the Destroyers can carry and operate themselves. That way it wouldn't be solely down to who has the biggest magazine of missiles.

Nah, simulation of YJ-18 is not accurate at all: At the final phase, YJ-18 would cast off its wings, accelerate to super-sonic, climb up, and dive toward to the target.

I’d like to think the NSM performs better in real life otherwise it’s not better than a Harpoon really but with a lower payload

Smile without a word,as long as U are happy

Serious question - Type 051B destroyer WHEN?

Could you do the zumwalt just for fun?

I'd have to disagree a bit with the destroyer v destroyer duels because the west and the east(?) have different doctrines. While China and Russia use their ships as their main attackers(maybe for now, in China's case), western navies use aircraft as their main attackers. Hence Chinese and Russian ships tend to, if not always, have more and better anti-ship weaponry that their western counterparts. Anyway, props to CH for making another well done model!

I wonder how the PAC-3 Patriot will perform when integrated into Burke.

So which one of you has ever served? Done a anti missile drill? every shot down an enemy missile?

Comments for the bump

how dare the British navy come to south China sea with such weak escort?

You guy need to hit a brake on the SAM expenditure rate or rather the wastage rate.

YJ, or short for YingJi in Chinese, means Eagle Swoop.

YJ-18 means YingJi-18, meaning eagle attack-18