NEW DeWalt 60V Chainsaw DCCS677 Review and Performance Test
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Күн бұрынI'm testing the NEW DeWalt 60V Chainsaw DCCS677 - the good, the bad and comparisons against two Stihl gas chainsaws, one entry model and one professional mid-range model.
Btw: there are two Oregon saw chains which fit the ORIGINAL 20" bar the saw comes with. CONFIRMED: 91PX068G (AdvanceCut low kickback) and 91VXL068G (NOT a low kickback chain but cuts a little faster).
Here is a link to the bare tool (saw only): amzn.to/3cZUc9r
Here is a link to the saw in a case with battery and charger: amzn.to/3RAkzBM
0:00 Intro and 3 different models
0:25 Case and contents, pros and cons
1:23 Chainsaw features, pros and cons
4:00 Build quality
5:00 Chain oiler performance
5:21 Saw chain - poor choice!
6:10 Performance test - set-up
7:15 Stihl MS 250 C (gas) perf test
9:12 Stihl MS 261 C (gas) perf test
10:20 DeWalt DCCS677 perf test
11:50 Summary - pros
12:58 Summary - cons
14:20 Final verdict
Overall: a great electric chainsaw with great safety features, awesome performance and amazing torque. I do have some nitpicky issues with it and I don't like the choice of saw chain but there are two Oregon chains now that are a confirmed fit, check out this testing-video: • DeWalt 60V Flexvolt 20...
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@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
I tested both replacement chains (91PX068G and 91VXL068G) and they work well, here is a quick test: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNdmY8Kqm9fZiWw.html
@superfreakyricky Жыл бұрын
What is the exact 18" Oregon bar & chain combo kit you used?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@superfreakyricky in the test here I used Oregon 39272 (A041 mount, 3/8LP pitch, .050" gauge, 18" bar length). Link is here: amzn.to/3CS4MrI
@superfreakyricky Жыл бұрын
@@CascadesHomestead Thanks! It's hard to get replacement 20" chains here in Canada, like everything nowadays it's on backorder! :)
@styledliving Жыл бұрын
really curious how this compares to milwaukee and makita's best offerings.
@Nyall Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jonathanvisscher5797 Жыл бұрын
KZfaq, pay attention. This is the only good/real chainsaw comparison video your algorithm has shown me all day.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan, much appreciated!
@EasilyToxic Жыл бұрын
Great video here, also worth checking out anything from Project Farm's channel
@hdelano11 Жыл бұрын
I have the DeWalt and it's amazing. Just batteries won't last long but it does what I need. I wouldn't cut wood all day with it
@obfuscated3090 Жыл бұрын
I have sometimes but I've many cordless tools and batteries. Cordless saws save my replaced shoulder from pull starting. BTW a useful trick for any saw is run the smallest bar that does the job and enjoy the reduced drag/more power. Long bars can be installed quickly as needed.
@mattmacc Жыл бұрын
Nice to know about chain sizes, alternative chain, also nice to see the description and summary.
@gkcamden9050 Жыл бұрын
Best comparison of these saws I’ve seen. Thank you!
@michaelchownyk5255 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for a good honest review I bought the Z one kit yesterday
@darkestmistere2557 10 ай бұрын
Great review. Best I have come across.. very detailed. Thank you and keep it up..!
@CascadesHomestead 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@MasterQuack14 11 ай бұрын
I used mine last week to cut up a large walnut tree over 3 days. I have the 20" and the 16" saws, as well as 10 of the 9ah batteries and 1 of the 15ah batteries. The 20" has a lot of power, but it constantly overheats the batteries where you don't even get a chance to use all the charge. My 16" Dewalt clearly spins at a much faster rpm and doesn't have any of the overheating issues and it also noticeably cut through the walnut much faster. I also noticed the 20" saw uses about half as much oil as my 16" and was clearly a problem as the bar and chain became very hot to the point the chain would stretch. Also, yes the chain was sharp, the oil passages were not plugged, and neither saw ran out of oil. It definitely needs to pump bar oil much faster or it won't last very long under heavy use. I almost bet they used the same pump as the 16", but due to the lower RPM of the 20" saw it pumps proportionally less oil because of it.
@CascadesHomestead 11 ай бұрын
Hi MQ - have you tried using a thinner oil which might pump easier? During the winter when it gets cold up in the mountains our regular bar oil (Oregon 54-059) gets super thick and won't pump - then we switch to Stihl Winter Grade oil which is a lot thinner. You may want to try a lighter oil, maybe just experiment with a quart of lighter engine oil before buying a big gallon of bar oil.
@MasterQuack14 11 ай бұрын
@@CascadesHomestead Hey! Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely give that a try!
@jt1929 Жыл бұрын
Nice demo. I got an 18 inch with 3 batteries and will use it as a backup for my Stihl.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Yes, we keep a big Stihl for the “all day”-work but for everything else we use the various DeWalts.
@mike9rr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review and pointing out some cons as well as pros. If I got this one I would spray paint the side plate nuts and spacers with bright a color that contrasts, like light blue, so I can more easily spot them in the dirt.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
I like that idea, easier to find in the dirt that way!
@keepitreal5148 Жыл бұрын
very great review!
@k9copcam Жыл бұрын
Great review
@chip_stack Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison
@Bill-sp8kb Жыл бұрын
That thing has some power! I could use one to cut up those "gifts", that my oak, and gum trees drop onto my lawn! Many thanks for the comparison! 🍻
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
It’s a great saw and we use it for all of our mid-size trees. Beats having to mix fresh gas etc. And during storm season (fall) we keep it in the car in case there is debris on the road - no more gas smell in the car :)
@teosinghsyiem9426 Жыл бұрын
i am planning to buy cordless chainsaw for branches clearing. your review is really helpful.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@obfuscated3090 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see they improved the damn oil cap and reservior. I have the older version and the new design makes much more sense as does the bolted bar mount.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Yup, it's been rock solid so far and my saw is getting a ton of use! Only using the gas Stihl for >20" trunks.
@thehhoff69 Жыл бұрын
The 91VXL068G and 91PX068G chains will work. Oregon 91 is a 3/8"LP .050 gauge, which is what the OE chain is as well. The PX is the AdvanceCut line, safety chain with chamfer chisel cutters. The VXL is their VersaCut line, NON-safety and larger blued semi-chisel cutters. The VXL is going to give you a bump in performance and longevity, but not being a low-kickback safety chain, I would not recommend for the average user. So go with the 91PX068G.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Hi Houston, yup, I ordered both and both seem to be low supply. Will do a test once I have them...
@thehhoff69 Жыл бұрын
@@CascadesHomestead You can never have enough spare chains. Especially with these LP chains that like to jump more than standard chains.
@kevinblitzcki2709 Жыл бұрын
If you narrated any slower, you would have sounded no different than Morgan Freeman :O Very insightful and thorough video 🙂
@annacraft Жыл бұрын
Great review! I got the older version (DCM 575 - 14inch) on sale but was curious about the updated one. Seems like a really nice improvement. They seem to have kept the position of the safety switch for the trigger. That is something I do not like on my saw because it feels really not economical to me. 🙋🏻♀️Anna
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Da stimme ich Dir zu! I wish the safety was more like the typical Stihl switches...
@robinverbridge4900 7 ай бұрын
VERY informative most of my curiosity addressed! But... Is the trigger variable speed or just on! If you add the time it took to start the ms261 to the cut time the DeWalt would have won! This video caused me to buy the 20 inch Dewalt. By the way, l own and like an extensively used ms261 which l will keep and continue to use also! My Amish friend has a saw shop he can make the 20 inch loops (chains)
@doctorwu1303 Жыл бұрын
Thank you George Takei for that wonderful review..😊
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
I've been called many things but THAT's a new one LOL
@doctorwu1303 Жыл бұрын
@@CascadesHomestead I was of course referring to your silky smooth voice over..☺️
@stumps211 Жыл бұрын
Can you confirm if it has a variable speed trigger or not? I saw another review that said it was just a single speed trigger. That’s a little hard for me to believe since my older 16” dewalt has a variable speed trigger. Thanks for the review!
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
No, it's just a simple On/Off - no variable speed. Honestly, it doesn't matter much, for most cuts you want to go full throttle anyway :)
@haroldjones12 Жыл бұрын
seeing a lot of fine dust coming from the 250 compared to the dewalt chain is making chips
@frederickmartin6998 7 ай бұрын
Has anyone used the 9.0 Ah (DCB609) battery? How does it compare to the 15 Ah (DCB615)? Does the performance suffer much?
@bryantitus6634 Жыл бұрын
The ms250/251 comes with a .325 chain setup because it really doesn't have the stones to pull full size 3/8. With a .325 bar and chain setup, it would have been far closer to the DeWalt. I'm not saying it would beat it because it very likely still would have been a few seconds slower, but not 20 seconds slower.
@darkerbinding6933 6 ай бұрын
FWIW, there are some other manufacturers of 20 inch 3/8" pitch low profile chains available now.
@fredio54 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to fit an ev3n longer bar with some standard chain on it?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Not unless you replace the drive sprocket which is geared for 3/8 low profile (LP), since there are no 3/8 LP chains longer than 20". I don't think DeWalt (or anybody else) makes replacement sprockets that work with say .325 chains etc. But the supply chain situation with the 20" 3/8 low profile chains is getting better, there are two working replacement chains, please check out this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNdmY8Kqm9fZiWw.html
@usa91787 11 ай бұрын
I was able to just stick one end of the included file under the file slot and it stayed in there. Probably not how they envisioned it but it works and the file is not rolling around. Edit: Do you think the larger profile 18" chain / bar would cut faster?
@CascadesHomestead 10 ай бұрын
I think it would cut faster but you can't run the larger chains on that sprocket. And I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement sprocket. So for now I use the 91VXL068G chain, works great and the kickback is manageable. YMMV :)
@nikotheshibainu7926 11 ай бұрын
But how long do you get a charge for on the 615 battery. Personally I had to send mine in for warranty as I only got less than 5 minutes of cutting on each battery.
@imagino0010 10 ай бұрын
5 minutes? that's frightening. any updates on that issue?
@njvw177 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if this leaks bar oil from sitting, like the 16" version does?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
I do not see any oil leaking out of the cap (like the other ones). But it does leak a bit of oil from the chain oiler hole, on par with all the other chainsaws we have (the two Stihls). Overall a big improvement over the 12" which leaked a lot.
@robinverbridge4900 6 ай бұрын
Great video l am going to buy a 20" Dewalt! HOWEVER you must start the clock when you grab the starter cord. Otherwise you are disregarding a big advantage of the battery saw. But l do appreciate learning several features of the 20" Dewalt!
@CascadesHomestead 4 ай бұрын
That’s a really good point. Shove the battery in and it’s good to go, no mixing the gas, filling it, pulling the starter cord etc. Ready to go in seconds!
@anthonymacneil2279 Жыл бұрын
Great review and one of the more detailed ones. I have one question what is runtime roughly with 15amp verus 12 a battery please? 30 mins or less. Paying $500 for a 15a battery is hard to swallow
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Strictly personal opinion: the 15 amp battery adds another 1/2 HP or so but I don't think it's worth it. I mostly use my 12 amp batteries and they are just fine in this saw. Depending on wood hardness, log diameter etc. I get anywhere from 15 - 35 full log cuts out of the 12 amps. So with three of these batts I go all afternoon.
@libertarian1637 Жыл бұрын
The reason for not transporting batteries in the saw, or any Flex Volt tool is the voltage and ability to short and start a fire. DeWalt FlexVolt batteries should always be transported with the red transport covers on the batteries as when the cover is locked on the 60V connectors are interrupted limiting the voltage to the 3P5S, or 6P5S configuration, thus about 20V. 60V wouldn’t seem that dangerous but it is enough to start a fire of there is a collision or even with quick/sudden movements as the connections are quit.e close relative to other 40v+ batteries; this is needed to ensure the batteries can function in 20V as well as 60V tools.
@CascadesHomestead 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the details!
@morganspencer-churchill2136 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see how this compares power-wise with the new Stihl MSA 300
@BenDiscoe Жыл бұрын
I'd also like to see that comparison, but the MSA 300 doesn't seem to available yet (as of September 2022) at least not in the USA
@sadihadi8898 Жыл бұрын
What oil do you use for your chain?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
I use Oregon Premium Bar and Chain oil, this stuff is great and very inexpensive, around $18 or $19 per gallon: amzn.to/3ywe1fG Husqvarna also makes good bar and chain oil but is a lot more expensive, not worth it in my opinion.
@MEDECK Жыл бұрын
I bought this saw after seeing your review. It is the DCCS677Y1 that came with the 12 AH flexvolt. I found on the Dewalt website that the 15 amp hour battery it will increase the horsepower by just a little but thinking that extra power will reduce the run time on the 15 AH to make it feel like a 12AH but alittle more zip. Does it seem to last about as long with the 15 amp hour compared to the 12 amp hour? After a few days of good luck with usability of this saw I am deciding whether or not to buy (2) more 12 AH Flexvolts for $245 each or if I should Spend the $375 for (1) 15 AH battery.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Strictly my personal opinion: I would go for the two 12 AH batteries (24 AH total) instead of one 15 AH battery. Plus the 15 AH overheats after heavy sawing, with the two 12 AH you can always pop in another one. Of course it depends on your usage patterns as well.
@marcowens3522 Жыл бұрын
I would get the kit with the 15amp battery why because the saw alone is $380 with the 15ah battery you only pay an extra $165. Which is a deal that's a $380 battery. With that said if you got another 15ah battery for$380 you would be had $545 in 2 15ah batterys.
@MEDECK Жыл бұрын
@@marcowens3522 You are not wrong there, I could not find the DCCS677Z1 kit anywhere when I was looking. That would have been a great deal. I ordered 2 more 12 AH batteries and I think it will do what I want for the hour or two a day I spend in the woods cleaning up.
@experienceprecision5406 Жыл бұрын
What makes you spend this insane amount of money when you can get a $99 gas saw with more power and you can repair it. Maybe if I can see it through your eyes I'll understand. Thanks
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@experienceprecision5406 have you tried the $99 gas saws? They are TERRIBLE! Now I do like my Stihls but a nice professional model will set you back $700-$800 (worth it though). My main reasons for a battery saw are: it's ready when you need it, no mixing gas, no "won't start" in the middle of a storm, no gas smell inside the truck (we always carry a saw in the truck in the winter since we live out in the woods) and we re-use the batteries with our other DeWalt tools. I've also used the battery saws quite a bit in construction work, mostly inside - you wouldn't want to use a gas saw there. I agree, battery saws aren't for everybody but there are some good use cases. We have a mix of both: a large Stihl gas saw for the big trunks and some DeWalt battery saws for the medium-sized stuff and the clean-up work.
@denisnorkin3931 Жыл бұрын
Can i buy an Oregon 20 inch bar and chain?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Hi Denis, I haven't found a 20" Oregon bar for 3/8"LP, .050" with a A041 mount yet, I don't think they make that. But you can use other 3/8"LP, .050" chains from Oregon, please check out this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNdmY8Kqm9fZiWw.html
@stork1988 Жыл бұрын
do you have to use a low profile chain ?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Yes, the drive sprocket is for 3/8 low profile so that is what works best. Some folks claim you can use regular 3/8 chain but that didn't work for me, and you would also need a new bar with a different front wheel. I'm currently trying to validate two chains that might fit: 91VXL068G and 91PX068G, will report back in a few days when they've arrived and I had time to saw with them.
@abdallahadalabeeh8962 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t find the 20 inch chain anywhere , it is very difficult specially when i live in the middle east not in the USA or Canada. Could you advise for good replacement of the chain bar ? But I want to keep the length to 20 not 18 inch .
@MosaicHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@abdallahadalabeeh8962 some shops will make the chain for you, this is the best alternative to this problem.
@MosaicHomestead Жыл бұрын
I went with the 18 inch to avoid this problem, but I do have a place where they make the chain to size.
@whiskeycreek4038 Жыл бұрын
How does it run with a 60V 2AH battery?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
I don’t know but it probably won’t run very long. It runs great with the giant 15 Ah and the mid-size 12 Ah and 9 Ah batteries. The 2 Ah is really small, plus it’s light so the saw will be a bit front heavy and not balanced.
@JustEnjoyingLife73 Жыл бұрын
By 2Ah, he means the “6Ah” battery. It’s 2Ah in 60V mode. The 15Ah is actually 5Ah in 60V mode.
@adriananderson261 Жыл бұрын
This saw runs fine on the 6ah(2ah@60v) batteries. I have 2 6ah's as reserve batteries for when my 15ah needs a rest.
@kdeuce8374 Жыл бұрын
Where can I get that case by itself?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Part number is DZO6KBOX and it seems to be out of stock everywhere. Keep checking at www.dewalt.com/product/dzo6kbox/chainsaw-kit-box
@kdeuce8374 Жыл бұрын
@@CascadesHomestead i appreciate you. Thanks
@hr.4576 Жыл бұрын
The 18" DCCS672 & the 20" DCCS677, Had the same runtime with 9ah battery??? An Ausie KZfaqr said he get 38 cuts (runtime) With the same battery (9ah)...
@roberthill4239 Жыл бұрын
If i cant get a full chizel chain for a chain saw i dont want the saw...i am a huge dewalt fan boy and was extremly excited about this saw. I have the first gen 60v saw and love it even though it has a couple problems. That were resolved in tge new saw. But dam the 3/8 chain is a deal breaker... anyone that knows chain saws wants a full chizel chain....so disapointed....come on dewalt
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, check out this video, there are some saw chain options: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNdmY8Kqm9fZiWw.html
@TomSilver_42 Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused by Dewalt's naming. Might be that this one is for US market only and the second one for the rest of the world. By that second one I mean what Dewalt names DCMCS575X1. Because it looks pretty much the same. However, thanks for all the details and nice review.
@CascadesHomestead 10 ай бұрын
Looks like the DCMCS575X1 is a 16" saw? Weird, never seen that one in the US!
@xtek100 Жыл бұрын
over 300% efficient in neodymium magnets , brushless is only few %
@georgen4077 Жыл бұрын
couldn't you just put a 20" Oregon bar on and shred whatever chain you want?
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
You can as long as the 20" bar has the A041 bar mount pattern and a 3/8" LP pitch to work with the drive sprocket. Oregon doesn't make one as far as I know, they're not on the Oregon website and neither Sheldon Hill nor Frawley's have something like that. Please let me know if you can find a 20" bar that fits!!
@TheSirPotato Жыл бұрын
Shame they include a crappy charger for a 15ah
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Agreed! A faster charger would have been preferred!
@woofy548 6 ай бұрын
In two yrs you'll either have to throw it away or spend another two hundred for new batteries. If they still make the same batteries.
@slpip4365 Жыл бұрын
This is a great well designed saw. Stihl is junk because I can't pull start any Stihl gas chainsaw.
@justinjenkins1620 Жыл бұрын
I think anyone that has used a chainsaw in any capacity is laughing at the idea of the "build quality" This is for a home owner that doesn't use a chainsaw often.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Actually, this DeWalt saw has really good build quality, much better than the electric saws from say HarborFreight (it's also more expensive). Does this saw replace a full-size Stihl? No, but for a homeowner with clean-up work this is a good option IMHO. We got rid of our mid-size Stihl and use the DeWalts for all the small and medium stuff. And the Stihl comes out for the big trunks or when I need a saw all day long.
@twiztidicp56 Жыл бұрын
Saw dust is to fine chain not sharp and doggers to high
@experienceprecision5406 Жыл бұрын
I love it. It's just to bad they charge such a outstanding amount of money for batteries that will eventually go bad. Just makes zero economical sense. Unless you do business in Zombie, California.
@christschool 9 ай бұрын
Horsepowers? LOL!
@moichi2957 Жыл бұрын
That chain is dog sh, the battery compartment is fully exposed. Did I mention its an electric pruning saw that costs $700Aud skin and not a firewood saw!
@robertcornelius3514 Жыл бұрын
Terrible warranty.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
What went wrong? I never had any major problem with one of my DeWalt chainsaws but when I needed warranty service for some of my batteries, DeWalt was super generous and came through.
@bigbearhungry983 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Dewalt man. I only get Dewalt tools but this saw is useless. The Battery compartment gets saw dust in it very easy. You have a hard time cleaning it out. Get a Battery Still which has a lot more power.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
We just didn't want to commit to yet another battery system and we already tons of larger DeWalt FlexVolt batteries. Definitely some room for improvements on the saw but after four months I still like it. Just went through the early fall cleanup, great saw for the medium stuff while the big gas Stihl does the big trunks.
@bigbearhungry983 Жыл бұрын
@@CascadesHomestead I understand, They should have made a cover over the battery. That would have been easy to do.
@CascadesHomestead Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Just a lid like the lawnmower has for example...
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