I agree with you on both points. However, several major manufacturers have moved away from Schwintek slides because they are notoriously difficult to repair when they get out of alignment which is becoming all to frequent. Personally I like the looks of Schwintek but I don’t need the headaches they cause.

With all the the issues I have had with cable slides I will never owner another unit with them. I know some have been lucky but never again!

Especially for the price

@@thatguy7085 you could buy a house for that price.🫢

@@loganchilcote2733 The lippert slimrack and Schwintek systems have plenty of issues too. Pick one and your probably going to have problems with it...

I guess the kitchen island would have to perform that function or adding a table next to the island could work as well. Then, you'd need some stools or chairs...

It's outside. It's called a picnic table. Lol

I agree with everything you stated other than the appliances. GE profile appliances are simply rebranded graystone.

I dont 100% agree. I have crawled around these as well as lots of others when we were in our search for an RV. We also went to Elkhart and toured a few factories to see whats under the covers too. DRV is for sure well ahead of the mass produced units and its the stuff you don't see where the differences are. After those tours i have a very different opinion. There are some brands( and one that get a LOT of attention here on KZfaq) that i would not buy period. 1)RE: Cabinets Those cabinets are not constructed like mass produced units. They don't use any MDF or Lumbercore anywhere in their construction. Face frames are assembled with pocket screws, not staples like a lot of them. You wont find any laminate products either anywhere. Also the materials on the drawers and shelves are thicker. for instance the drawer bottoms are 1/2" VS most others 1/4" luan bottoms, drawer sides are also 1/2" vs 3/8" and as i mentioned no MDF(aka fallaparticle board) or chipboard. The thing i think they could do better is on drawer construction. They really should dovetail them, that would be so much better. The only 5th wheel manufacturers i have seen that do it are Luxe, New Horizons and Spacecraft, all of which cost a LOT more, in some cases like a SC over double. I do agree on the trays, dumb that they don't go all the way back and they seem narrower than they should be too. As a person that has been a woodworker for all of my adult life, these cabinets while not perfect are better than most and will last which is the most important part. 2) How are these "RV appliances"? Insignia is a residential appliance brand found in many homes. I have some in my current house right now and believe it or not the insignia refrigerator we have replaced a very problematic GE Profile. It been better then the GE and way better then the Samsung i had in my old house. 3) You missed it, the prep is in the half bath, he showed it and pointed it out. 4) I agree they should use copper on all of the fittings but im sure weight is a factor here too. 5) I think they all junk when they are broken. The Slimrack and Schwintek have plenty of reported and repeated issues as well, just go read any RV forum. I also feel like the term "high price" is relative. Compared to a Luxe or NH a DRV is a lot cheaper and not that far behind in quality. To me there are the low end mass produced units like a Cougar, higher end mass produced like a Grand Design. Semi mass produced units like DRV and Riverstone and then the super high end custom units like Luxe, NH and SC. Quality and cost goes up with each tier.

Cable slides are lightweight and reliable. Its why you see them everywhere, you can use it over and over again until the wires stretch or break. Slim rack mechanisms are awful, hateful things with rails that bend, deform and break, with a weak drive system that will just eat its self when it wants to.

The washer/dryer connections & closet were in the half bath!

This is now my favorite “bunk room” rv! I have two teens & this is the first two bedroom I’ve seen that I don’t need to redesign in some way to accommodate my family! Love the washer/dryer closet in the half bath. Doesn’t take up room in either wardrobe spaces which means more storage!

Name one manufacturer that offers higher quality and appearance for less money.....

@@cheetahman859 have you actually priced one or looked at what is standard and what isnt? Something tells me you have not.

@@TDub_ADV Forest River,Keystone, Jayco,,,,,, I’m sorry, you just wanted one example, my bad.

@@johndoran3274 And if you crawl around under and inside all of them sorry they are not at all in the same quality class, not even close. Let’s see, chipboard floors, slide floors and roof, MDF cabinets, paper wrapped MDF everywhere, Laminated MDF counters, single pane windows, a less heavy duties frame, leaf springs, drum brakes etc etc, those are the things you will find in those brands, none of those things will be present in a DRV. The only brand on your list that comes close is Forrest river in the Riverstone Legacy line. They are built very similar and retail for similar money. I have owned a Jayce, it’s not even remotely in the same class. They start falling apart after year one and are not up to the task of full time living for sure.

Only problem is Luxe is not in this price range. A Luxe is significantly more probably 100k or more retail, and you would need a truck bigger than a standard 1 ton dually to pull it. Luxe is commercial truck territory due to the extreme pin weights. We priced a Luxe 45FB toy hauler last year and it came in 110k higher than a similar DRV and we could have easily made that price gap even higher. We also would have needed a 5500 sized truck or bigger to pull it too, the pin weight would have been right around 5k according to Luxe with the features we wanted. They suggested a Freightliner Sportchassis which would have been another 250k+.

DRV told me Azdel laminated plywood on the slide floors when i asked that exact question when i toured the factory. they do not use chipboard anywhere including the floors. All real wood.

It's a 40 minute video,after editing himself out,ya get 10 minites of high speed spinnin

I thought the same thing! The whole living and kitchen area seemed cramped to me!