New Girsan Witness 2311 : 2011 Under $1000
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8 ай бұрынThe Girsan Witness is a 1911 with a 17+1 magazine capacity using the 2011 style frame. Optics ready with all the features of the 2011 but at a reasonable price. Thanks to EAA Corp for their partnership! #2011 #Witness2311 #1911
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@lz_377 8 ай бұрын
I had an issue with a Girsan Hi Power clone and sent it back to EAA. It came back in 2 weeks with a note saying what was wrong and what they fixed. Has so far ran perfectly.
@josebarajas619 8 ай бұрын
What’s wrong With Your Gun
@lz_377 8 ай бұрын
@@josebarajas619 the extractor was messed up, bent I think, and the front sight fell out before 50rds. It would have FTE or FTF almost every other round.
@pipefitterwithguns8688 4 ай бұрын
Hey buddy did you find any conceal carry holsters for it? I can’t find any. I purchased mine the is morning. Looking everywhere no luck
@lz_377 4 ай бұрын
@@pipefitterwithguns8688 It's just a range gun for me. I CC a S&W Shield Plus. Sorry bub. I would look into if it fits most Hi Power holsters since it's a clone.
@lz_377 4 ай бұрын
@@pipefitterwithguns8688 BHSpringsolutions here on KZfaq is the best channel you can watch regarding Girsan and any other Hi Power clone.
@jamesbroughton7870 7 ай бұрын
That’s ridiculous there’s no way I’m gonna buy a 2011 at 7 pound trigger. What’s wrong with these people that’s one of the things about a 2011 or 1911 is a good triggers and they seem to be putting his triggers out that are crappy well thanks for the review. I love the fact that you do the trigger on your reviews that’s why I watch them because triggers are very important to me.
@patrickcurran7987 8 ай бұрын
I think this review is the one ive been waiting for the most all year
@kevincielski5597 8 ай бұрын
This was a great review. I enjoyed what seemed to be one of the most honest and critical reviews from Sootch I've seen in a while. He wasn't dumping on the gun, because it didnt deserve that, but pointing out aspects of the gun that simply can't compare to a 2011 that costs literally two thousand more dollars. This seems like an excellent handgun for the current market and I hope it sells well.
@PinoyGrayMatter 8 ай бұрын
I always wait for your videos before I look into purchasing a new firearm. Thank you for presenting a thorough review. You can't imagine how much you've helped a lot of people. God bless you Sir.
@terryholloway9930 8 ай бұрын
A great review Don you always do a great job I respect your opinion you are the bomb diggity!!!! Living vicariously through you brotha
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Terry! I appreciate it Brother
@tomg.5194 8 ай бұрын
I think I know what my first 2011 will be now. 👍🏾
@allenc4909 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see you review this model in one of the larger calibers too. 😮
@fuzzyreticle 8 ай бұрын
Super smart using the industry “standard” magazine.
@cliftonwhittaker260 4 ай бұрын
An excellent review, as usual, Sooch00.
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361 8 ай бұрын
Thanks again for another great review. Steve - Canada.
@deaglan6641 8 ай бұрын
man this is one hell of a gun if its as good as I think it is
@pharaongaming8617 8 ай бұрын
It probably is, Like pretty much the only Problem Girsans had was brittle internals (Broken Hammers and stuff like that) but for the Price you get a decent Pistol
@michaell397 8 ай бұрын
@@pharaongaming8617And soft slides, frames, barrels, eat themselves for lunch. They should be sold with peanut butter as they come with a lot of Jam!
@imjudeau2156 8 ай бұрын
@@michaell397good one boss pb and j
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure you can work the trigger and get it down to 4 lbs.. like most other 1911's
@bestmillimeter1858 8 ай бұрын
I’m excited to see how much these drop below MSRP after they’re on the market for a while.
@Claimjumper55 8 ай бұрын
I'm seeing them for $860 without the red dot.
@POPJack1717 8 ай бұрын
This gun ain't going any lower than 800 bucks. There's a thing called demand. Demand from the 'budget' crowd will keep supply low (hard to find in stock) which will keep price up. If you think you're buying this for anything below 800, you're sadly mistaken.
@LeadSlinger_ 8 ай бұрын
@POPJack1717 naw they will be found for under 800. I can almost guarantee it. You just have to know where to look. I bet I will be able to find one for 650-700 easily in a few months.
@POPJack1717 8 ай бұрын
You aren't finding these under 800 bucks like I said because of this thing called demand. Freaking 6 shot Rock Island AL9.0s are 739(used to a 450 gun) and they are cheap revolvers. You aren't going to find a double stack 2011 for under 800 bucks. Period, not happening. And that's a fact. You can't even find a rock island double stack 1911 anymore and those been out for years. And when you do, they're always 800+.
@LeadSlinger_ 8 ай бұрын
@@POPJack1717 I disagree. You obviously just don't know where to look. These will be found for under 800 easily. It's actually quite funny you mentioned RIA cause I got my RIA tac ultra for 625 about 2 months ago.
@327Federal 8 ай бұрын
Still Waiting on that 327 Fed Mag Review! Your the Best Sootch!
@allenperry2921 2 ай бұрын
Another good review .thanks!!! The fit and finish on that gun looks absolutely perfect. She's a beaut!!!!
@allenperry2921 2 ай бұрын
Oh and someday soon I hope to own the negotiator in 10mm.Check that one out!!!
@TraumaRider 8 ай бұрын
Awesome review! Finally a 2011 I may actually get into.
@LawrenceArnell 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for a budget 2011. This looks good. Interested to see a few more tests. Might be a pickup. Girsan does good stuff.
@araneaetvelivolum1086 8 ай бұрын
I was able to find 2 offers on gun broker, that's it. One had the configuration you showed in this video and the price was 899$. Will be interesting to see if EAA is able to provide more stock for the Christmas business. It reminds me to the Tisas PX9 gen 3. I own that gun and I love it, very accurate and great trigger .
@joepadilla6297 8 ай бұрын
Where did you find it for $899 I’ll buy it right now
@araneaetvelivolum1086 8 ай бұрын
@@joepadilla6297 read my comment.. it's in there.
@midnight4540 8 ай бұрын
I like it a lot, nice review thanks and take care.
@jetman1979 8 ай бұрын
Looks like a nice pistol 👍
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Brother!
@jamesbroughton7870 5 ай бұрын
So glad you got a different pull weight gauge. Now it matches up better with mine.
@pogeegitz 8 ай бұрын
FINALLY! A 10MM 2011!
@reekz8089 8 ай бұрын
The rock island armory made one a long time ago
@pogeegitz 8 ай бұрын
@@reekz8089 I should have said a "decent" one.
@cavalieroutdoors6036 8 ай бұрын
@@pogeegitzRock Island made one a long time ago.
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
You could get a few variants of the Rock island for less than 600 for awhile there.. (couple years back).. Not sure of the current price.
@pogeegitz 8 ай бұрын
@@calholliThis has a much better finish than Rock Island, and more than a POUND lighter in 10mm. I'd gladly take a Prodigy in 10mm over this, but I don't see that happening.
@BlazeOfGlory742 8 ай бұрын
Good Saturday morning SOOTCH.
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
Good Morning Brother!
@davva360 6 ай бұрын
Disappointed the trigger is 7 pounds. That seems heavy for a 1911 / 2011. Other than that looks pretty cool. HAs a lot of features for the money for sure.
@taylorlibby7642 8 ай бұрын
Dammit....now I gotta redo my Christmas list.
@reekz8089 8 ай бұрын
Lol
@Lomeli_Armory 8 ай бұрын
Just add to it 😅
@theblacksheepknights 8 ай бұрын
Finally this is a 2011 priced as it is that I was waiting for Armscor/Rock Island to put out but they never did.
@lz_377 8 ай бұрын
I'm ready for S&W to drop a 2011! They've been on fire lately and I know it has to be coming soon.
@SLOCLMBR 8 ай бұрын
😂 why? There's enough 1600-2500 dollar options..
@lz_377 8 ай бұрын
@@SLOCLMBR because I love Smith & Wesson.
@brianfortin2934 8 ай бұрын
I already bought the mc35 9mm now you're showing me the witness I'm going to buy that in the 10 mm but I would like to see is you do a review on that wrist ⌚ you're wearing. Always an excellent and honest review.
@kevinhullinger8743 8 ай бұрын
Girsan makes solid guns no doubt.
@loquette1 8 ай бұрын
I might pick one up, nothing an EGW ignition kit, new trigger and a little tuning can't fix. Great addition to my Staccato and Prodigies.
@needlamp2147 5 ай бұрын
You sound like a tool.
@timsmith9645 8 ай бұрын
Nice girsan 2011 gun thanks for sharing sootch00
@oddballgunman5288 8 ай бұрын
Definitely glad you mentioned the competing options. Kimber recently released a DS 1911 that seems decent as well for a decent price.
@aljosaskrabelj8412 7 ай бұрын
Kimber released compact version KDS9C. It is interesting. Good option for people interested for expensive Combat Wilson EDC X9 4. Kimber is way cheaper. But it is not really competition for optics ready 2011 style gun for under 1000$.
@blindfoldedmissile 8 ай бұрын
that looks solid
@Super4guns 8 ай бұрын
Ill stay with the prodigy, yes cost more but is all around top notch for price point
@headshotpros888 7 ай бұрын
Great review. LOVE that someone really did a nice closeup of the trigger pull. In this example, a 7lb trigger defeats the entire purpose though. But maybe you pay for ta gunsmith to do trigger improvements, and the end cost becomes a decent value?
@paul_schuette 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review, as always. Sounds like a good option to break into the 2011 platform.
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by Paul!
@ernestmulliii3907 8 ай бұрын
Thought my finger was gonna break when I saw this notification pop up😂
@Dressed2KillTaye 8 ай бұрын
😂❤😂😂😂
@codybroadway8496 8 ай бұрын
girsan have made all their clones in a super high quality way they are a precision machine shop with todays technology especially in other countries like turkey etc we should be getting great guns for great prices i cant wait.
@Ninjaman-do5uk 8 ай бұрын
Impressive base gun. I wish there was a bull barrel option though. I get the pro/cons but I'd still opt up to the prodigy price for the longer dust cover and the bull barrel.
@nmr6988 8 ай бұрын
Watched this first on Patreon.❤
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
You're the best!
@Anamnesis010 8 ай бұрын
I'm getting one ASAP!
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
Throw an EPS carry on this thing and it's actually a sick setup.
@koksalaksoy4364 8 ай бұрын
Tanks very nice ds. My new favorite
@claytongross5657 5 ай бұрын
I totally didn't know they made this in the 10 mm and 45, thats awesome
@vondrelleraven4380 8 ай бұрын
I have a girsan with the derry optic. It needs a better option.but a great gun I have mc28 sa T 17+1 but yes only one mag
@aubreyholmes1235 8 ай бұрын
Greatness
@IsraelPerez-zb5nd 8 ай бұрын
Nice
@TheMakeReadyRanch 8 ай бұрын
If they work well and if they can keep them on the shelves, I expect they will sell a bunch of 'em.
@Chef_Of_Sandwich 8 ай бұрын
super badass 🤘🔥🔥🔥
@serilus4life 8 ай бұрын
That is the pistol for me!
@richardmorrison1495 8 ай бұрын
Loved the review. I think that the Cerakote finish is why the slide is not as smooth as it could be. Can you do a review on the RIA TAC ULTRA FS HC 9MM 17RD?
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Richard, I agree. The Cerakote does add a little bit of material to the surface.
@cavalieroutdoors6036 8 ай бұрын
I've rolled a few of my own from %80 RIA frames, and the cerakote didn't effect how smooth the slide operates in those. I doubt the cerakote is the problem, unless Girsan/EAA are using 'Cerakote' from Wish.
@danfloyd9338 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review, would love to see this compared to the Apollo 11
@Dogglegg 8 ай бұрын
Great Review, and with the usual dignified commentary. Just grunt and move a little further back, or forward.
@OL-Tom 5 ай бұрын
So, I bought one. Picked it up for $807 plus taxes and shipping. It's my 5th 2011 style gun. Have about 6-7 hundred rounds thru it. Can't say it'll ever be my favorite. The trigger totally sucks, the worst of all my 1911/2011 guns. I think the grip is overly aggressive. It's gritty in operation. The spent cases are flying all over the place, even back into your face at times. Took off my optic, and am going to modify it for a Holosun K series. It does run reliably and it's okay accuracy.
@joed3264 5 ай бұрын
Trigger is easily fixed.
@mark63366 5 ай бұрын
What do you consider okay accuracy? Just curious.
@TurboK24z 8 ай бұрын
7 lbs? Man that's heavy for a modern hammer fired gun.
@jessecaldwell6776 8 ай бұрын
I’m sold.
@fotofavoloso267 8 ай бұрын
Trigger pull seems kind of heavy.....don't you think?
@gameragodzilla 8 ай бұрын
Wish there were more .45ACP 2011 style guns. Also higher capacity options, too, since there are higher capacity .45 options for the Para Ordnance frame, so I had a custom gun built off that.
@TurboK24z 8 ай бұрын
Might as well just get a 10mm. Hits harder but you get more capacity wise than 45
@gameragodzilla 8 ай бұрын
@@TurboK24z Ironically, according to modern ballistic experts, energy doesn’t actually make a significant difference on wounding capability. The temporary stretch cavity won’t actually incapacitate anyone unless the cartridge is moving over 2200 FPS, which even hot loaded 10mm doesn’t. At that point, the only damage a pistol bullet does is the permanent crush cavity, and that is primarily determined by bullet size (including expansion for hollow points). So at least with my understanding of ballistics, .45ACP is actually better for human threats. 10mm does have merit for predator defense, but that’s mainly because the extra energy gives you a lot more penetration. 18” of ballistic gel is the max you need for humans, but you need a lot more for bear.
@claytongross5657 5 ай бұрын
The absolute BS of gun snobs is ridiculous. I CAN'T STAND GUN SNOBS. Not the host but all the stupid comments is ridiculous. I love when he brings out new videos, he saves me lots of time and money. Thank you.
@coreys3662 7 ай бұрын
Put the thumb safety up so it locks the slide in place when putting your bushing back in so the slide won’t move on you
@kaig453 8 ай бұрын
Will these ever actually be available? I ask because they were supposed to hit the streets in April 2023. It is now October 2023 (6 months later) and they are not yet in the wild. Dealers have had them listed on their sites, but they have not had any stock, which suggests that they have been just waiting for their stock. I’ll hold my breath on this gun, especially with a 7lb trigger (should be in the 3-5lb range for 1911/2011-style pistol) and Girsan has a so-so track record with its 1911s. I never trust reviews when the manufacturer/importer provides a gun to the reviewer as it is to their benefit to hand-pick a good example, which may or may not represent the majority of examples of that given product.
@lawnmowerman25 8 ай бұрын
They're out. Check your stores and GB.
@Death.Co. 8 ай бұрын
7lb trigger is ridiculous, I would have to replace that fire control group before I even shot it. That's twice as heavy as most 1911/2011 pull weight.
@WH250398 8 ай бұрын
Girsan kinda reminds me of those Pagani watches. Shameless ripoffs of existing designs, but very well built and very affordable.
@isidrosevier1125 8 ай бұрын
I need one of these in a hard chrome finish with a bull barrel
@joaopedrobaggio4475 8 ай бұрын
Well Sootch, being your biggest fan from Brazil, you always impress me, you are right about one thing, we are seeing a golden age of gun industry, but as i can see there is a government war against your 2nd Amendment right, it's time for a 2nd Revolution, because i don't believe in elections anymore.
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Joao! I appreciate the kinds words and you're right about the 2A. It's a fight bigger than ever.
@JP-gw3bk 8 ай бұрын
Ohhh yeah this is a scoop forshor
@Dom_721 8 ай бұрын
The 10mm version would be interesting
@jamesdelong6401 8 ай бұрын
Sweet, pistol for the price
@markofmckinney941 8 ай бұрын
7 lb trigger??? I don’t own one yet, but isn’t the appeal of a 1911/2011 a lighter, better trigger? Not sure how much it would cost to upgrade it (if possible), but it closes the gap in price with the Prodigy.
@cavalieroutdoors6036 8 ай бұрын
If it uses the typical trigger spring you can bend the leaf spring to adjust the pull tension.
@robertoroffo1853 8 ай бұрын
It would be nice if they finally released it to the public
@piggygameing4223 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if you were still responding on this one but how did you actually buy it? I can’t find them in stock anywhere and I seem to keep seeing sites that have a catalog and you have the store order it
@TheLoneRanger745 8 ай бұрын
IT SURE LOOKS AWESOME , GIRSAN MAKES NICE EQUIPMENT. It comes with the optic ?
@SLOCLMBR 8 ай бұрын
Probably so, looks like an awesome $40 optic😂
@Sigrafix 7 ай бұрын
That's a good looking gun.. I'd want it on looks alone.. Lol.
@abhishekguharoy3416 8 ай бұрын
Please make a comparison video between this and bul armory sas ii tac
@sootch00 8 ай бұрын
That would make a great comparison. Thanks~
@pharaongaming8617 8 ай бұрын
I usually Love Israeli stuff. Not a fan of Turkey either but personally I think this looks better than Bul Armory, probably worse quality but still Overall tho I don't really like 2011s itself, STI Edge looked Kinda Cool tho
@jeffreycash1572 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the trigger group needs polishing. Be interesting to know what the hammer spring weight is.
@roul3688 8 ай бұрын
Will one 2011 maker make the trigger guard bigger on these things? That is my only complaint with 2011s
@atranimecs 8 ай бұрын
ATI is garbage but is literally the only company that I've seen that has a double stack, 14rd, .45 1911 that has a custom-larger finger guard.
@davidgraflex2065 8 ай бұрын
I really like ds 1911s but after the Springfield I am a skeptic now. I hope this one works
@PkwyDrive13 8 ай бұрын
That's a dumb reason... Staccato when they were STI sold poor malfunctioning 2011s for years, before they figured it out. Far worse than the Prodigy issues
@earltate56 8 ай бұрын
Seems like it recoil more stoutly than some others.
@ryanscharadin 8 ай бұрын
Wish it still had a rear sight while having a red dot installed
@mikelyon5595 8 ай бұрын
N/A in Calizuela!
@madpimp12 3 ай бұрын
I just picked up mine yesterday. The safety is really stiff and the trigger is heavy for a 2011. Hopefully it will loosen up after the break in period.
@richardwaid4718 8 ай бұрын
7 LBS trigger, that absolutely sucks for a 2011 trigger. I’d pick a Canik over that for a few hundred less. I know about trigger jobs but I’ll bet you’ll sacrifice durability if you grind on the existing trigger, so a new trigger system would be necessary if you’re planning to compete with this. $250 more. Now you’re at CZ Shadow 2 price range. It’s a fail in my humble opinion. Good pistol maybe for LE duty?
@SLOCLMBR 8 ай бұрын
7 pounds for a single action trigger is criminal..
@aljosaskrabelj8412 8 ай бұрын
True. But you can get one in 10 mm + trigger job. So that is 1300$ for 2011 in 10mm auto optics ready with good trigger. Not bad.
@SLOCLMBR 8 ай бұрын
@@aljosaskrabelj8412 1300 dollar pistols shouldn't need trigger jobs new
@aljosaskrabelj8412 8 ай бұрын
@@SLOCLMBR it is 1000 dollar gun. I was adding 300 for trigger job.
@SLOCLMBR 8 ай бұрын
@@aljosaskrabelj8412 gotcha, I'd be really careful who touches it for 300 bucks.. Lotta wannabe gunsmiths around
@user-iy1xh2hs7m 7 ай бұрын
It’s a heavy trigger cause they made it a defense pistol the trigger also gets lighter and probably around 5 1/2 pounds when it’s broke in
@nandkishorrajensingh4298 8 ай бұрын
I would have like it to come with a threaded barrel & decocker
@ManofTroy81 8 ай бұрын
How does this compare to the Alpha Foxtrot S-15 Bobtail that took Shield S15 magazines you had not too long ago for around $1500?
@jamesobanion5559 6 ай бұрын
I’ve got a Girsan it came with one mag that’s their thing
@non-binaryjesus 8 ай бұрын
I do like the magwell. You think it would fit the prodigy?
@saulgiron134 8 ай бұрын
Between Tisas and girson I prefer Tisas...now I hope Tisas gets with the 2011.
@RealMatthewMorgan 7 ай бұрын
Everyone sending their guns to Sootch now for the positive review kickbacks! Talk about a feedback loop, lol. Thanks EAA! 😅
@briancooke5532 2 ай бұрын
The slide is Made in Turkey, but the frame is Made in the USA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the frames are Made in the US.
@MrRob2you 7 ай бұрын
This will be interesting to see where it goes because 4:36 oracle arms came out with the 2311 but it’s a 2011 design using sig p320 mags. I thought this was a knock off of that but it just seems to be a knock off 2011 with a confusing name
@MCduck-yy4yr 4 ай бұрын
Can you swap out anything in the upper slide area I have a Girsan 1911 that already has boar cuts and a compensator in 9mm and I want to put that slide on the polymer lower
@garypease7414 8 ай бұрын
Could you get a 10mm version, and do an extended review? 500 rounds or so, maybe?
@PrecisionKing85 7 ай бұрын
Are parts compatible with Bul armory or Sticcato parts, barrels, trigger ect.?
@swartzkoft7886 8 ай бұрын
You need to do a review on live free armory apollo 11 it's a 2011 under a 1000$ too
@mrguiltyfool 8 ай бұрын
Ria has budget double stack 1911 for ages
@andreawhalen4142 7 ай бұрын
Trigger job for a 1911 is easier than changing your oil, i just dropped in a sear spring from wilson combat, trigger is now 3 lb 9 oz and im telling you this witness has the shortest reset there is.
@KYSBN418 8 ай бұрын
how would you hold this up against a staccato with a staccato being a solid 10? cause i might wanna get one
@bigbossoooo 8 ай бұрын
Is the price include the red dot as well?
@scotthiggins5813 6 ай бұрын
What is the barrel ramp style Wilson/nowlin or para/clark
@technut2200 8 ай бұрын
Am I reading the trigger pull gauge right? It appears to be around 5 1/2 - 5 3/4 pounds, not "just under 7"
@harshaare 3 ай бұрын
Please compare this with apollo 2011
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