NEW MISSION 770 HiFi Speakers meet the designer / factory
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Күн бұрынIn this video I am visiting Mission HiFi HQ to meet Peter Comeau who is Director of Acoustics and the designer of the new Mission 770 Speakers. The original 770 was released 1979 and was Missions most popular speaker of its day. I wanted to know more about the new 770 and how much of the originals sound remains but also how much has been improved and modernised
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0:00 Intro
1:22 History
3:30 Design
6:20 Drivers
9:40 Crossover
13:15 Cabinet
15:59 Port
17:00 Sound
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@JoeSee 7 ай бұрын
The older I get, the more I'm interested in finding myself a very simple 2.0 system I can sit down in front of and just enjoy my music. Finding an engineer that loves what they've done with their design like this is exactly what I'm looking for and would love to have as character in my system. Thank you very much for this video! Like others have said, I really wish there were more videos like this regarding specific audio equipment like this to help decide.
@PeterPaoliello 2 жыл бұрын
Synergy and flow between these two is excellent. Interviewer really has nice pace and totally on point with the questions second only to the quality of the responses.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Peter I still get quite nervous doing these interviews and by the time I have setup all the lights mic and cameras and extra bits I am as hot and flustered as hell going into doing it so thanks again for the kind comment
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I agree ...fantastic channel!
@JukeboxAlley 2 жыл бұрын
Silk/soft dome all the way, sharp, I like that he stuck to what worked on the looks, love the looks of these.
@stevesmith3033 2 жыл бұрын
My first Hifi speaker when I was a teenager was the Mission 737. So cool to see this look being brought back.
@markdoherty2750 2 жыл бұрын
I had the 707 many years ago before upgrading to the Castle Harlech floor standing speakers. I really wish I hadn’t of sold them now as I love the design and I’m feeling nostalgic 👍🏼🍻
@glenharvey2419 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic, so great to see how enthusiastic you both are, very informative and am even more excited to see you're forthcoming review... well done that man!
@Martin-bv1gk 2 жыл бұрын
nice to see the 770 makeing a comeback i'm still enjoying mine from 1981.
@ronaldrice2936 2 жыл бұрын
How much was they when you got yours?
@yvesboutin5604 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time and effort you and Mr. Comeau took to explain the engineering details and upgrades in these speakers. I really wish more channels dedicated to hi-fi would put the same effort in analysing a new product. It help the prospective buyer to understand why real hi-fi is more costly than the cheap imitations made by some other companies. Also, Mr. Comeau is very generous with technical details other brands try to keep secret (sometimes there is no secrets, just BS and salesmen mumbo-jumbo). Thanks to both of you and hope to hear from you soon!
@garethvaughan426 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic vlog guys, I had Mission 720's bought new around 1978 ish, they were the middle stand mount speakers from the first ever range, I loved them, my best friend also bought a pair, happy dayz.
@michaelmityok1001 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview, all manufacturers should do this kind of thing with KZfaqrs so the product is understood from this kinda of perspective.
@gdwlaw5549 2 жыл бұрын
truly excellent show today. Thank you for asking the right questions!
@shanestephenson8423 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview Terry an absolute passionate man. I look forward to your review mate.🎧🙂👍
@JeffHeon 2 жыл бұрын
What a treat to have another interview with Peter Comeau and in superb video clarity! Also seeing the old and new model side by side!
@CosmicKnight1 2 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video. It gives such insight into the speakers. I had a pair of 770 Freedom back in the 90s, obviously they were a bit old then, but I did enjoy them. Based on this video I really want to hear this new 770! Thanks for a get interview. Your questions and demeanor where spot on.
@adamcfada5071 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to see Peter, such a lovely person Looking forward to seeing your review Terry. 👍👍👍
@Redstickler1000 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview with Peter Comeau. Such a well known figure in the hifi world. I had the 770s back in the day and they were considered a very special speaker back then. I'd love to hear the new 770s. They obviously look very retro so it will be really interesting to hear your review Terry, and understand how they stack up against the modern competition. Thanks again, and well done on a great interview, you certainly didn't appear nervous or flustered. Cheers.
@michaelwilliams4086 2 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears, made in England. All those employees spending their wages in our economy, excellent 🇬🇧 Looking forward to the review
@Willogs78 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, I have always had mission speakers and these could be my next purchase. Can’t wait to hear what they sound like absolute classics.
@glenncurry3041 2 жыл бұрын
Some really great insight into the design and history! Good work! Thanks to both of you for sharing!
@scottdavis0801 Жыл бұрын
I just found a pair of Mission 707s at a local store. I redid the woofers, and replaced the dried out ferrofluid tweeters with a replacement. Anyway, dynamic, spacious with sound, and very detailed. It took me awhile to get used to them. I can't put them down now. Vinyl/records sound amazing, also radio. Anyway, loads of fun.
@melbguy1 Жыл бұрын
That was a great interview which really told the story about the new Mission 770's. I'll look for the follow up review next
@summerforever6736 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@brankocernik8384 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video , very well done and such a joy to watch !!! Looking forward to the review 😀 The 770s look the part !!!
@HanifBarnwell 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview
@jarekstorm6331 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the listen and review on these ones.
@martiny1804 2 жыл бұрын
I heard them back then and later the repair shop I work at carried them in the mid 80's. Sound great then and still do.
@milkman100001 2 жыл бұрын
great interview Terry enjoyed learning about the missions. looking forward to your review of them and a listen.
@clarencehoover6748 Жыл бұрын
Very engaging and educational interview. Wonderfully done.
@johngardner9227 2 жыл бұрын
Great video really enjoyed it, thanks Terry 😎👍
@AudioElectronicsChicago 2 жыл бұрын
Great quality speakers
@mikejames-drummerreginacan1386 2 жыл бұрын
VERY WELL DONE AND INTERESTING VIDEO.....Cheers from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.
@KB-os6lh 2 жыл бұрын
Love them!!
@milfordmkt 2 жыл бұрын
Got a pair of originals vintage 1979, passed over from my older brother. Sound great with vocal recordings esp.
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 жыл бұрын
🤗 WE ENJOYED THE VIDEO TERRY …AND LOOK 👀 FORWARD TO YOUR REVIEW…WHEN YOU GET THEM HOME 🏡
@yanabas4907 2 жыл бұрын
can’t wait for it to be released, be quite happy even to demo this on youtube 🤤
@craigenputtock 2 жыл бұрын
Great design!
@marknelson4699 2 жыл бұрын
Great speaker, back in the day I had a pair of the 770 so it would be good to see what the new version sounds like and if had the chance I'd get them in the back of my car too! Brilliant review👍
@Raymondey 2 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting 👍Still enjoying my Mission QX-2 and sure that my next speaker will be Mission too 👌
@andrewbrazier9664 2 жыл бұрын
I can't personally budget for these but recently purchased a pair of Mission QX2 Mk 2 to replace a decade old pair of Monitor Audio Bronze that came with my Marantz PM6005 amplifier. Really pleased ,such a wide soundstage with good depth. Not as forward sounding as many speakers around the price so less fatiguing. Soft but low rolled off bass( ,so not for heavy rock fans) with lots of treble micro detail 👍 🙂
@markcarrington8565 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview, thank you. I have a feeling I would love these speakers. Really good to see the quality of the crossovers. My only issue is with the lack of bi-wire terminals, however, that’s easily fixed with an extra pair from somewhere like ETI Research 😀. So pleased to see them made in the UK too, although it obviously affects the price, it has to be worth supporting our manufacturers.
@aussie8114 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, now need to hear them though.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 2 жыл бұрын
'Peter Comeau' IMHO is without a dought a Top desighner ! I would love to review the 770s I Just reviewed the Super budget LX2-MK2 and For the price point WOW! no giant killer but competes with my more exspensive speaker Great Job Terry thank you man !
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
Just bought a set ;-) Now I have to wait to get them!!!
@miguelmanuel9618 Жыл бұрын
Do you have them now?
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
@@miguelmanuel9618 No.....Wish i did!
@miguelmanuel9618 Жыл бұрын
@@xsamitt What happened?
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
@@miguelmanuel9618 i assume they are in shipping...
@miguelmanuel9618 Жыл бұрын
@@xsamitt Oh! Now you have to wait :(
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for these but £3500 per pair might be a problem for me.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Have a listen first then decide is best way
@hclandscapes 2 жыл бұрын
Made in the UK = more expensive...
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
@@hclandscapes We knew that would make them more expensive but few expected they would go for £3500 / 4200 Euro / $4600.
@justoutlaw6423 2 жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex And you get half a pound sand resistors in crossover for that kind of money.
@timleelim9930 2 жыл бұрын
I never saw the 770 being sold in my country, but am a big fan of Peter's original Heybrook HB1s. It wouldn't be cheap to do an updated version today, but I hope it somehow comes to be.
@CC-bg8gf 2 жыл бұрын
Specs are now on the Mission website. 88 dB sensitivity 2.9 kHz crossover frequency 38.5 L cabinet volume 19.2 kg weight (each) I want them.
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
Did you get them....Thought's!!!
@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent thanks a lot. The only thing I would have loved to hear about is the internal damping of standing waves, as seen from pr material from Mission a lot has been invested in damping standing waves. Personally I believe there are two reasons mini speakers are so popular among audiophiles, the first of these are the fact that standing waves inside the cabinet are in a frequency region where they can be easily damped by lossy damping material. So I would have liked to hear a bit about the seemingly advanced interior damping of the 770’s.
@512bb 2 жыл бұрын
Holly cow, now that's a real crossover, Danny will not be offering an upgrade kit for these. I think I may just be able to rid myself of my LS3/5a's. The price is very fair when compared to many of the famous British monitors, ever seen the inside of a Harbeth or Spendor? And two big thumbs up for not building them in the PRC, the enemy of the free world. Beautiful British construction just warms my heart, much success!
@RennieAsh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he'd make one with the caps and resistors he sells
@512bb 2 жыл бұрын
@@RennieAsh Danny is a good guy , his views on crossover design & quality of parts are well founded, apparently Mr Comeau sees the value as well. I am really looking forward to hearing these new 770's, they really look well thought out.
@ganck1147 2 жыл бұрын
I have always revered the british loudspeaker sound since i started venturing into hifi in the 70s. To me they are just more musically & emotionally involving. And elusive elements like toe tapping & head nodding is what makes listening to music so enjoyable. To this day, i still find that ONLY british speakers can invoke this sort of reaction in me when i listen to my favourite music. Its certainly refreshing to see the reissued Mission 770s. I can listen to british speaker designers like Peter Comeau, Alan Shaw, Derek hughes etc talk all day & all night long about speaker design & what makes them so musical!
@peterwood2633 2 жыл бұрын
Damn the price though! But damn the bass response. I wonder how warm they are and if worth nearly triple the Linton Heritages?!
@andygee8716 2 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to own a pair of the original 770s back in 1982. These new ones at £3499 cost exactly 10 times what I paid for my pair back then!
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Have ypu checked the pricrs of other things in 1982 petrol was a lot cheaper too. Thats 40 years of inflation for you but as this video explains this is not the same speaker you bought with a modern day mark up its a much improved speaker
@andygee8716 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I was just making a point, not a criticism.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
@@andygee8716 fair point apologies i was trying to answer the comment that a lot of people have made.
@andygee8716 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I can imagine. Fair play to you and I still love the channel. Good luck mate.👍👍👍
@hoobsgroove 2 жыл бұрын
interesting have you got any pictures of internal bracing wonder if it's got a long vertical baffle inside must have to get those frequencies
@pickyaudiophile9898 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry. Did you ask Mr Comeau whether these will be introduced to the public (and demonstrated of course) at upcoming Munich Show?
@ianjohnhorwood2605 2 жыл бұрын
My final sound electrostatics are very lucid, detailed, revealing, dynamic and exciting, and totally disappear too. Plus there is no crossover, just one uniformed sound, and lower distortion than any box loudspeaker.
@greggles69 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the speakers are definitely not my particular cup of Darjeeling (I currently own Kudos Titan 505’s at getting on for three times the price) I found this video extremely informative and entertaining. Any chance of an interview with Derek Gilligan (founder of Kudos)?
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind doing that
@willmac5642 2 жыл бұрын
Interested why they placed the tweeter slightly higher up compared to original
@margix1172 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the new KEF 104ab...the new B&W DM4/DM2....the new Rogers BC1......and the reborn of Celestion and AR.....I DO HATE ugly tower speakers that looks like vacuum cleaners!!! Make Hi-Fi great again!!!!
@playbackvintagehifihunter9669 2 жыл бұрын
The original was the first pair of vintage speakers I bought, only a few years ago.. After first listen, I got rid of them! I didn't like them at the time, but then again, I had much to learn in terms of sound quality and musical enjoyment. Another on the list of my Hifi regrets..
@RMax-lz4ry 11 ай бұрын
Probably your front end equipment was not up to par, or the pair you had was possibly defective.
@playbackvintagehifihunter9669 11 ай бұрын
@@RMax-lz4ry you are probably right 😔
@tonyhodgkinson4586 2 жыл бұрын
For a speaker at that price, I would expect soldered cable to terminals, from the video they looked like push on tags.
@truthful3777 2 жыл бұрын
It is expansive because it is made in UK with high cost labour. Period! I have a few polycone speaker KEF and Spendor that the speaker cone warped after some years. If you live in a hot climate country this is not the speaker for you. Once the woofer warped it has no more value. I trust the Wharfedale Linton is better, with easy on the wallet, great built quality and kevlar speaker that don't deformed due to heat. It is a good buy.
@hugobloemers4425 2 жыл бұрын
The mission 770 seems to be the Fiat 500 for speakers :) But not when it comes to the price :( The woofer has a full copper cap to reduce the eddy currents, just like the Philips AD9710 full range driver of the 60's. And that driver is referred to as the poor mans Lowther, so yes very good but by now nearly 70 year old technology... It sounds a bit snarky but is not intended to be mean spirited. All in all I really like this speaker by the looks of it, it is just that corporate speak tends to ruffle my feathers. Great video, keep them coming!!
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Its important to remeber Peter is not trying to invent the wheel with this speaker he is trying to mimic the best bits of a 70s speaker and bring the best bits of modern speakers without losing the character of the original. So its not always about the most advanced technologies its about using what is going to work for the desired goal
@hugobloemers4425 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks for taking the time to reply. I really liked the interview and I have also been looking forward to learn more about this speaker. It could be perhaps the best looking speaker on the market today and the eye wants something as well. I only picked up on the copper cap because I had the impression it was suggested to be a rather novel idea and I just could not let that pass. But any way, the video it self was a joy to watch so thanks for bringing it to us.
@super-z8943 2 жыл бұрын
@@hugobloemers4425 He mentioned full copper sleeve, because not all drivers do, though it is a no brainer. All Seas drivers for example don't. It results in massive difference in 600- 1500Hz range distortion.
@bigblueocean 2 жыл бұрын
Aimed at wealthy retired men who remember the old ones fondly. Struggling to see the value from my own perspective. Usual very high quality content from El Tel though.
@jameshoofer1766 2 жыл бұрын
I agree £530 in 1988 which is £1550 in todays money. They were never a top end speaker and you can pick a very good pair up on eBay for under £400.
@ronaldrice2936 2 жыл бұрын
How much was they back then for the pair?
@ianorigbo7617 2 жыл бұрын
These are looking good but with speakers like the KLH MODEL fives these missions got alot to prove for the asking price of £3.5k money.
@bobb.9917 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a retro bonanza out there!!!!
@ronaldrice2936 2 жыл бұрын
You right the model 5 🔊🤣, and cost less even with stainds 🙄,No brainier 🔊🔊💯👍🥃
@toneswinger 2 жыл бұрын
You have the new model 3 out now. Exactly the same format two way with a 8 in midnass driver. And half the cost might sound even better with coated paper rather than a poly cone
@geoffwalmsley3066 2 жыл бұрын
Had these in the late 70s,lively speaker,stuck with missions along with tannoys, I think they have priced these too high,Mission was always a good budget speaker.
@bigmac.. Жыл бұрын
Have you ever listened to mission Cyrus 782s I have a pair,also a pair of mission 717s.both really different but if say the 782 image better.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I havent sorry no
@bigmac.. Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, you can really tell the difference between them as the 782s are sealed and 717s are ported.782s seem more controlled, plus there 4ohm.
@stefandijk5339 Жыл бұрын
Good evening, I have the opportunity to listen and buy the vintage MISSIOn spekaer 770S. According to the Audiophile database this speaker is the ‘80s successor of the first MISSION 770. Would you be able to tell me more about this particular speaker? Is this a should-buy; depending of the sound of course. With regards, Stefan (The Netherlands)
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
maybe watch this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6-beMWmnb7de5s.html
@stefandijk5339 Жыл бұрын
Thank you; have a nice day!
@neilthompson7752 2 жыл бұрын
They just need juicing up now with a quality amp and source...I.E Naim Hagel Linn Dcs 😉
@yippie6862 2 жыл бұрын
There are 3 very inexpensive sand cast resistors on the crossover board. They shouldn't be there in a 3500 pound speaker. Not Peters fault. I'm sure they gave him a strict budget to follow.
@gibbions 2 жыл бұрын
Would these work with my Naim Atom?
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sampahtetapsam21 Жыл бұрын
D way Peter explain way better than andrew jones
@doifeellucky 2 жыл бұрын
That price…. I was hoping more in the Linton Heritage ballpark.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Its a noticeable step up speaker over the Linton I got to do an A/B last time I was there
@doifeellucky 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Good point. No benefit for IAG to have two of their products directly competing against each other. Maybe more in the 2k region would have been nice, based on the price of other models in their range, but I’m sure made in the UK has an impact.
@zjzozn 2 жыл бұрын
👍🌈
@2HatHudders 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, can't I ask what is supposed to be the "British Sound"? Growing up in the 80's and 90's we basically listened to everything with the treble and bass bumped up.
@GO-mg7ft 2 жыл бұрын
4k euros !? Come on engineers, marketing and sales, Let's get down to Earth.
@mygarart2764 8 ай бұрын
I got them for 2.4K €
@chevyimp5857 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this interview..mind you the assembly line looked very staged and those guys did not look at ease..
@tone-369 2 жыл бұрын
Harbeth M30.2 XD vs Mission 770 Heritage ?
@tone-369 2 жыл бұрын
Or Harbeth C7ES-3 XD
@allenwilliams8962 Жыл бұрын
@tonnpag great question. I am contemplating between these 2!
@LorDarkGoose 2 жыл бұрын
Can I set them up so my wallet is also completely unaware of the speakers? 😋
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Banter 😀
@RennieAsh 2 жыл бұрын
You can, because the money just disappears into the room and you're left with just the wallet. You forget that you were even holding money
@peterlynn3190 2 жыл бұрын
Assembly team wearing Hi-Viz. Daft as....
@andrefortune8278 2 жыл бұрын
Price is an issue... 😭 Could get an elysian 1 for that money... Arguably better build quality but off the shelf drive units 😕
@markjohnathanappleton8642 2 жыл бұрын
Look a bit to big for most u.k homes and for that price,iam looking at Spendor a7 speakers which spendor make there own bass midrange drivers coils,and the cabinets and made in uk
@truthful3777 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Spendor built drivers. All handmade and crooked as hell..... Looks like a kid glued the dust cap. It is crudely made the last time I had it.
@DueM 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet, they're sick.
@barrybrennan2135 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of room, set-up do these needs? I guess they'd fare poorly near boundaries
@sloboat55 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they wearing safety vest?
@soulnik 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe their fans of Men Without Hats and do the Safety Dance while working?!?
@kevinnewell7880 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to both the new and the old 770's and the new ones sound excellent as the old ones did, better in fact, however I cannot justify the £3,299.00 price tag. It seems Mission like many other companies nowadays deliberately inflate the price tag to make people think they are buying something exceptional and they like like to boast to others about how much they paid for certain things. I would imagine there is a high mark up in the price from the retailers too. Personally I will stick with Q Acoustics that are far better value for money.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
To really hear what the new 770 can do they need to be playing off a very good system, exceptionally good and then you would hear where they easily justify their price against other new similar ish speakers available today. You have to judge them against new speakers today to ascertain their true value
@kevinnewell7880 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem lets agree to disagree, far too much profit in them
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
@@kevinnewell7880 defo disagree I listen to high end speakers all the time. There has to be profit in products otherwise they won’t exist. I know how expensive it is to have things made in the UK. If you compare the 770 to its main competitors from Spendor and Harbeth they cost less. If they sound like the original 770 that is by design in the mid range but they have modern capabilities at the extreme ends that makes all the difference for a versatile all round speaker. You wont know what they can do bass wise without the right gear. You wont know what they can do sound stage wise without the right gear. I have been using them for the last year comparing them much more expensive speakers so have a very good handle on them now
@kevinnewell7880 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem The Hi Fi retailers in the UK put a 100% mark up on just about everything they sell, the speakers probably cost Mission around 25% of the price they are sold to the consumers, they cost in store for £3,495.00 they most likely cost Mission around £1,200.00 to produce.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
@@kevinnewell7880 it doesn’t work like that prices are set by the manufacturers and they have to allow for dealers and or distributors to make enough to have a business and fulfil their duties. This is true for every industry all over the world for everything you buy pretty much. No one forces anyone to buy anything but value can only really be judged by a products position within the market compare to its peers and the Mission offers at least as much if not more than its peers for the same or less money.
@glennjones6574 2 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that these high end designers use sand cast resistors. I mean you know who says they are garbage..... lol
@PurpleDreki Жыл бұрын
Never liked the front baffle lable.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Thats what the grill is for
@PurpleDreki Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Yessir! Love your reviews!
@kramsniggah4333 Жыл бұрын
£3.5 k? cough cough.... You could buy British ATC, ProAc or Harbeth for that outlay...
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Yes any many other speakers for the money but you might not want to based on listening.
@allenwilliams8962 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem How do these 770's compare compare to the Harbeth 30.2 xd anniversary speakers? or the Splendor 3/2's?
@toneswinger 2 жыл бұрын
They are going to be too expensive for what they are. You could buy the new khl model 3 for less money if you like the retro look or spend slightly more money and buy a modern dynaudio contour 20i with much better performance. Made in UK is a gimmick for just to inflate the prices
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
There are quite a few similar speakers around this price point and I think its best to wait until you get to hear them before you decide what is better wouldnt you agree
@toneswinger 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting wound be wise. I am trying to find the ideal speakers and cd player for my NAD m3
@alexandervaneijken7741 2 жыл бұрын
I do not think these speakers are going to be sellers. Mission is a brand that has a certain image: good speakers for an affordable price. GBP 3.300,00 is simply a pricetag where people are going to look elsewhere for their speakers. Like Wharfedale the Mission brand should stick with their heritage/image. (think ,as an example, of Jamo ) This naturally does NOT mean that the mission cannot be a superb speaker.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair they have sold quite a few already and thats without people hearing them, I have started listening to them today and they are going to push me as an audiophile to hear the best of them. These are going to surprise a few people because normally the British BBC type sound comes with some caveats and I think Mission have tried to do away with these limitations and tweeter is sensationally good.
@alexandervaneijken7741 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Well,in that case I stand corrected of course. Do not misunderstand me I hope for Mission the new 770 will be a spectacular success.
@drownedinwine 2 жыл бұрын
the closest speaker in design goal seems to be Finkteam Kim and that's 3 times as expensive
@aleksandarkovacevic1990 2 жыл бұрын
Bezobrazno skupi a jos engleski.
@carlsitler9071 Жыл бұрын
$4600 is absurd.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Why?
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem He can just look at B&W 800 bookshelf.....which is well over 10k and will not give you any where near the fullness and will also not give you the soul of music! And the stands are over 2000.00 alone!
@oluhamilton2121 2 жыл бұрын
Logo TOO BIG!!!
@noco-pf3vj Жыл бұрын
Oh no, designing a speaker with ears? ASR community would be angry because to them our ears are dumb.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
A very successful speaker it was too haha
@carmenandthedevil2804 2 жыл бұрын
Serious? I can understand remanufacturing Gale 401's or Wharfedale E90,s but 770's? For 3.5k? OMG, Harbeth wannabee;s and they aren't that good either.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
If they wanted to make a Harbeth-a-like they wouldn't remake a classic speaker like the 770 and the fact you picked up on the Harbeth being a similar price means this speaker is priced correctly - think about it
@amazinganimallearningandfu3842 2 жыл бұрын
cant believe these are worth over £3k - 3k would buy a lot better speaker elsewhere....
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard these to know how good they are to then suggest what might be better?
@amazinganimallearningandfu3842 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem yes I have and for the same money I found PMC 25 22i and Monitor Audio Gold 200s blasted them into next week on every level. That's just my opinion, you will have yours as well.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
@@amazinganimallearningandfu3842 interesting i know both of those speakers and know that wont be the case but if that is what you heard then its a valid opinion.
@amazinganimallearningandfu3842 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem what makes your ears better than mine to say "I know that won't be the case" - I am purely reporting my opinion which you are disputing. Is your response based on the fact that you don't want to upset Mission, but are perfectly happy to make such a response against PMC and Monitor Audio? I think you have to respect what your viewer of youtube is saying vs just blanking out someone's opinion. My statement was based on a 3 way audition of both models vs the Mission, which I found to be the weakest of the three.
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
@@amazinganimallearningandfu3842 i said i know all these speakers well enough to know the missions wont be blasted on every level by the other two. But if that is what you heard its a valid opinion. I think that is a pretty fair reponse
@MrMarkhall1 Жыл бұрын
Another speaker review video where you don't get to hear them.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
This is not a review and if you searched you will find a sound demo video I created. If you want to hear them go to a dealer
@worstalentscout 2 жыл бұрын
YAY.............more garbage from Mission...............let me guess, they couldn't sell the Wharfedale Lintons ??...........and so used the cabinets for Mission...............LOL hope they remake the Pilastro too.........the most horrifying high-priced speakers ever........LOL
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you hear that the Lintons don't sell well?
@worstalentscout 2 жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex ....brands like Wharfedale has very little worldwide market or appeal.............obvious that the audio group that own these UK brands - they're out of ideas and decided to go retro..............LOL
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
@@worstalentscout I find that hard to believe given the amounts of reviews and awards Wharfedale receives.
@jamesm90 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The Wharfedale have sold very well which influenced this remake of the Mission 770.
@burtonwhiteside1240 2 жыл бұрын
Ugly in my opinion
@bobb.9917 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to hear Peter's detailed and careful redesign process of a classic speaker. (Sad to hear that it was all the way back in 1978 when I almost wrecked my Toyota Tercel Hatchback while listening on my self-installed Kenwood stereo, as Mark Knopfler's "Sultans of Swing" hit the airwaves!!! WOW! WHAT A MOMENT!). Great stuff! Looking forward to your review, Terry!!! 👍🏼
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