⌚ New Omega Seamaster BEATS Rolex Submariner ??

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John P Watches

John P Watches

5 жыл бұрын

Here we compare the new Omega Seamaster ceramic wave dial to the Rolex Submariner ceramic - Hulk!
That's right. I said it- the Omega Seamaster of current times really holds weight. In previous times in watchmaking history- sure it is fairly safe to say that Rolex Submariners outperformed their Omega counterparts. Throughout watch history, Rolex has been generally regarded as the top sports watch. Though, things are changing!
In recent years, Omega has been putting their watches through a shift. The quality of the watches has really come a long way. If you are a watch geek or watch collector, and you have not touched an Omega sports watch from current generation, I urge you to do so. You will be VERY surprised and impressed at the quality.
Thanks for watching !
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@carlmanu
@carlmanu 5 жыл бұрын
If you make me wait to buy your product, you lost me as a customer. I don’t care how good your product is, it is never going to repay my time wasted waiting. Ω Omega Ω is the answer!
@Mohammedalyafeimusic
@Mohammedalyafeimusic 4 жыл бұрын
carlmanu great point 👍🏼
@cityslickeroutdoors8306
@cityslickeroutdoors8306 3 жыл бұрын
carlmanu Rolex is a waste of time and time is money
@kenziearroyo3415
@kenziearroyo3415 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy aftermarket? Rolex is a better watch afterall
@alvin850
@alvin850 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex doesn’t care either. To be honest.
@ocb05
@ocb05 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenziearroyo3415 yeah and pay over 50% premium for some artificial scarce watch?
@TZOID08
@TZOID08 5 жыл бұрын
I own the black version of the Seamaster and love it..... The Submariner is stunning and I would buy one in a heartbeat but at the current situation I am out..... Rolex and their Authorized dealers are responsible for this F'd up situation and it's making me become Anti-Rolex..... Reports of AD's setting up side companies that jack the prices up 3X over MSRP and Rolex let's it happen because they are selling every unit they can produce shows how they aren't interested in new customers.
@rocco3099
@rocco3099 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with you 100%. Was wanting to repurchase the SD43 which i had sold earlier this year. Approached my friendly rolex AD and he was shamelessly asking for a $3000 premium. I was like bye bye, thank you, hello blue wavy seamaster300. Glad i got rid of the bulky SD43 and got my hands on this. Love this watch :)
@devinbrown7426
@devinbrown7426 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the black Seamaster as well, simply because j thought I was getting more bang for my buck. Couldn't be happier
@paulyoung4392
@paulyoung4392 4 жыл бұрын
I can't afford a Rolex but I have a blue seamaster. I would love a black submariner. The hulk doesn't appeal to me , looks horrible. I hope one day Omega knock the stuffing outta Rolex lol
@RickyRicon2023
@RickyRicon2023 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulyoung4392 you shouldnt beg to buy a sub rolex, omega treats you like a good client, and not like ad's of rolex. if you like rolex, good. but omega is better watch and more beatiful watch, you must see the white dial with a black bezel. brutal !!!
@Tenerio
@Tenerio 4 жыл бұрын
I have "Datejust41 bi colour" i bought for 13K and wanted to buy a "hulk sub" as a sportwatch but not available in any rolex store for months, just online for double the price so i finally bought a black omega gold steel "seamaster diver 300m chrono" for 9K. So beautiful!
@devinbrown7426
@devinbrown7426 4 жыл бұрын
I love the skeleton hands, the helium release valve, the scalloped bezel, and the wave pattern on the dial, Simple because that's what separates Omega from the rest. Everyone else copies Rolex and it's a bit exhausting with all of the retro releases as well. Great video!
@WatchUnwind
@WatchUnwind 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly ! Those little touches improve the uniqueness of the watch and in my opinion make it much more attractive than the Rolex
@cityslickeroutdoors8306
@cityslickeroutdoors8306 3 жыл бұрын
Devin Brown don’t forget the 6 o’clock date wheel
@leeharding8306
@leeharding8306 4 жыл бұрын
Like you said the Omega is technically a better watch and Rolex need to up their game. Omega all day long 👍🏼
@frisbee544
@frisbee544 4 жыл бұрын
Soooooooooooooo jealous.
@beri232
@beri232 5 жыл бұрын
The Seamaster looks nicer to me, offers a little more and a guy can buy one at retail and actually pick out the style/colours he wants.
@frisbee544
@frisbee544 4 жыл бұрын
Funny when folks are soooooooooooo envious of Rolex owners. Just remember, Omega is not a Rolex.
@PN-80
@PN-80 4 жыл бұрын
Thefirstgalaxybeing you are right, omega isn’t Rolex. Omega is better
@edwardpetersii6276
@edwardpetersii6276 4 жыл бұрын
Thefirstgalaxybeing Who the hell wants a Rolex, anyway! I think people who buy a Rolex want the envy of others. Let me spare you with absolute honesty, here! I could’ve bought lots of Rolex watches but I never did because they never appealed to me. I have owned Breitling but they were a disappointment and have had two Omega watches. I currently own one Kmega and am scoping out another! Get over it, already, not everyone wants a Rolex. They’re not the desire of everyone who wants to own an automatic watch! They look cheap to me. Who the heck glues a magnifying glass feature on the inside of a watches sapphire crystal, anyway! Also, Rolex cut it’s production in half, so there is more demand than supply. If doesn’t necessarily mean they’re better than an Omega, although appearances might fool people. They’re supposed to build another factory in Switzerland and increase their production but as a friend pointed out to me, both Rolex, Omega and many of the watch manufacturers are getting killed by the sale of Apple watches! That’s right, a piece of junk like an Apple(Wouldn’t even call those watches) are virtually crippling the watch industry, as the watch companies are scurrying, trying to figure what to do. I can’t see it, though. People like you and me live automatic watches and know what they are. However, just like all the other modern technology crazes out there, it has people ‘fixated.’
@mr2bmw
@mr2bmw 4 жыл бұрын
When I think of Rolex, I think of a fat guy with. A hairy chest wearing gold chains.
@edwardpetersii6276
@edwardpetersii6276 4 жыл бұрын
mr2bmw LOL.🙂 A Co-worker told me he knows a guy who bought Evander Holyfield’s Rolex for $50,000.00!???! What the heck? I could think of way better things to do with fifty thousand dollars. I mean, the whole Rolex thing is just boring and played out, already. Even Daniel Craig, who could have any Omega he desires I imagine, has a collection of Rolex watches! Whatever! I love my Omega!
@clarkmjueco
@clarkmjueco 5 жыл бұрын
You did say ‘technically the Omega is a better watch...’ and thats it, end of story
@chrismartin4607
@chrismartin4607 4 жыл бұрын
Completely disagree. I have an SMP 300m (same as this vid). I know its technically superior. Would I swap it for a James Cameron Deepsea that I know isn't a big improvement (next watch on my radar), 100% I would. Whats technically better isn't the same as what people want.
@gasparjohnson3774
@gasparjohnson3774 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismartin4607 Deepsea, nice watch that wears like a boat anchor and tell me exactly how it is superior to the Seamaster? Is it because of the useless improved depth rating? The average owner of any of these watches never dives, and if they do, they seldom if ever go deeper then 30 meters, 200 meters is more than any dive watch needs.
@chrismartin4607
@chrismartin4607 3 жыл бұрын
@@gasparjohnson3774 Greater movement, power reserve, dial, finish on the bezel and bezel inserts, better quality steel used in the case and bracelet. Additionally the oyster bracelet being tapered wears much better. Any more you'd like me to add?
@gasparjohnson3774
@gasparjohnson3774 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismartin4607 904 Stainless is no more scratch-resistant than regular stainless and because of the higher nickel content is more prone to cause allergies. Fit and finish aren't any better then the Seamaster, not one iota, and the bezel insert is certainly not better than my SMP 2018. The Master Chronometer METAS movement with the 55-hour power reserve is better as well and is completely anti-magnetic, it is COSC rated at -0 to +6 meaning you never have to reset the time, just hack it until the correct time catches up! Mine has been steadily running at +2, never slow! I own a Rolex, they are just for the Kool-Aid drinkers to waste extra money on when you can get a better watch a 1/3rd the price!
@chrismartin4607
@chrismartin4607 3 жыл бұрын
@@gasparjohnson3774 The fit and finish of my friends deepsea is a level about that of my 2018 Seamaster. Its plainly obvious. The polish and the flip lock clasp is also of significant better quality to that of the Omega. Its simply a better watch. Now 3x the price better probably not, but I know what id rather have
@blazinmark1
@blazinmark1 5 жыл бұрын
Btw Federico called and wants his Hulk back...
@nishanthb6379
@nishanthb6379 5 жыл бұрын
The price tag on the omega is the real deal maker.
@WatchUnwind
@WatchUnwind 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@shaf1485h
@shaf1485h 5 жыл бұрын
Both are good watches and it comes down to what you like. I have the 2012 Omega SMP it's a great watch and I prefer it over the submariner. That being said I would rather have a Daytona over the speedmaster moonwatch. Buy what you like and enjoy.
@ticktology
@ticktology 2 жыл бұрын
I have 3 Omegas, including the SMP 300m. When I first saw a 2021 Submariner, I was utterly underwhelmed with its very bland design. Yes, the Rolex Sub is a robust & iconic watch, but there are also thousands of people who just buy it for the status symbol it portrays. The quality and design of the SMP 300m is perfect, imo. Arguing whether one watch is better than another can be subjective at times.
@steveeber2324
@steveeber2324 5 жыл бұрын
There may be a difference in finish quality but I can't see it in the video. I just don't see anything that would move me to the Rolex even if the price were the same.
@thewatchloungechris
@thewatchloungechris 5 жыл бұрын
I love my outgoing ceramic seamaster., .Outgoing as in discontinued. The non wave dial is such a classic versatile every day piece.
@matthewdavis8199
@matthewdavis8199 4 жыл бұрын
I own a black version and continue to get lost in the dial. I love it.
@TXCraig
@TXCraig 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same Omega but on a bracelet. The Omega bracelet for this watch is incredible.
@maitrehg
@maitrehg 5 жыл бұрын
Incredibly ugly.
@devinbrown7426
@devinbrown7426 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's a beautiful watch
@greenerick
@greenerick 4 жыл бұрын
The bracelet is ok but very heavy I find it uncomfortable that's why I put it on the rubber strap
@edwardpetersii6276
@edwardpetersii6276 4 жыл бұрын
maitrehg STFU!
@lbentley516
@lbentley516 4 жыл бұрын
Just about to get Omega black wave dial on rubber strap. Can you order the bracelet and interchange them? Currently own Daytona SS white dial but really like the Omega SM for a change it up. Especially since any Rolex I like are no where to be found which is irritating as a consumer.
@cityslickeroutdoors8306
@cityslickeroutdoors8306 3 жыл бұрын
Dial is too cramped on the submariner. Makes you feel like you’re confined in a tiny submarine compartment. Omega makes you feel free and takes a weight off your chest.
@bluemut55
@bluemut55 4 жыл бұрын
Omega: Hey nice watch! Rolex: Hey that's a good looking watch.....is it real?
@erikkalifornia5182
@erikkalifornia5182 4 жыл бұрын
Plus, who's paying more than 3 times the cost of the omega to get the Rolex sub Hulk??
@xPhreak1
@xPhreak1 4 жыл бұрын
Both incredible watches, the omega is clearly the better watch for the value compared to the sub but there is just something about Rolex that makes it more desirable, most likely the marketing and exclusiveness. It’s human nature! People want what they can’t have
@cityslickeroutdoors8306
@cityslickeroutdoors8306 3 жыл бұрын
Erik Kalifornia douche bags that’s who. And they’re not wearing the Hulk outside their house either.
@stevemclean4862
@stevemclean4862 3 жыл бұрын
Bought the Seamaster today in White/Black, stunning great piece, Great value for money
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 5 жыл бұрын
I really feel the new Seamaster is the equal to the Submariner in pretty much every way, without even taking price and availability into account. I’m even a fan of the He valve, because it helps to differentiate it from almost every other dive watch (which all look vaguely like a Sub and vice versa), which is of course why Omega included it. I sometimes forget exactly how handy and effective Omega’s anti-reflective coating is as well. There were moments I couldn’t read the Hulk, but I never had that issue with the SM. Also you mentioned that Omega’s Master Chronometers run fast. In my experience, so long as the watch has hacking seconds, which these do, running fast is so much better than slow, because resetting the watch simply involves hacking the seconds for however fast the watch is running.
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 5 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Pearce but its ugly, and everything else is thus irrelevant
@andresfg6788
@andresfg6788 5 жыл бұрын
Fredrik Svärd quite a subjective statement
@dragonmaster7841
@dragonmaster7841 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously? Skeleton hands are lame.
@Mohammedalyafeimusic
@Mohammedalyafeimusic 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree 👍🏼
@frederickdenina1305
@frederickdenina1305 5 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to tackle about the movement. Omega has an advance co-axial movement which for me is a better one and more desirable and can last long without servicing. I know this coz I have Omega Seamaster 2007 model the first co-axial model in seamaster and till now running great and accurate with out servicing.
@frisbee544
@frisbee544 4 жыл бұрын
But, it's not a Rolex.
@RickyRicon2023
@RickyRicon2023 4 жыл бұрын
@@frisbee544 Exact, it's not a rolex. it is better!
@erikkalifornia5182
@erikkalifornia5182 4 жыл бұрын
@@frisbee544 Exactly. Which is a good thing.
@gasparjohnson3774
@gasparjohnson3774 4 жыл бұрын
@@frisbee544 Rolex is a flim-flam operation that requires you to drink gallons of their Kool-Aid to fall for the insane prices they are selling their ($4k in reality) watches. Been there, done that, never again!
@marcdee4427
@marcdee4427 3 жыл бұрын
You are the first person to go into the advantage of a having the ceramic dial on the omega, ageless 😎👍🏻
@devinbrown7426
@devinbrown7426 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought the 2018 black Seamaster as my first luxury watch, I couldn't be happier. The 42 size case fits me perfectly
@iankaczer1781
@iankaczer1781 4 жыл бұрын
Contemplating the same first lux buy vs the Tudor BB. Decisions, decisions.
@Emoore0909
@Emoore0909 5 жыл бұрын
Getting Tim Mosso vibes once you switched cameras haha
@ScottLewis123
@ScottLewis123 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me that gets tweaked out by John saying Zero 2 Rather than O 2 when talking about the chemical composition of the Seamaster dial? O for Oxygen, not 0 for nothing... Hahaha - rant over.
@Russ-ex8so
@Russ-ex8so 4 жыл бұрын
Got same Omega SMP black on black few months ago. Absolutely love it!
@TheWatcher60401
@TheWatcher60401 5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently saving for the Omega blue on blue on stainless steel. Can't wait!
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
awesome watch!
@katies15
@katies15 5 жыл бұрын
Keep saving you wont regret it I absolutely love mine
@nelsonprendergast9871
@nelsonprendergast9871 4 жыл бұрын
I'm saving for Seamaster as well. Can't wait!
@Kyu7
@Kyu7 4 жыл бұрын
I'm buying mine this weekend!
@erikkalifornia5182
@erikkalifornia5182 4 жыл бұрын
Got the Black dial on stainless bracelet. Love it!
@rayquintanilla614
@rayquintanilla614 5 жыл бұрын
I was ready to dislike the blue dial of the Seamaster, but this is the first time I’ve seen the gray dial and now I’m hooked!
@loukasantoniou8054
@loukasantoniou8054 5 жыл бұрын
Great video...omega is a winner for me. I thing still missed some points in favor of the omega but still a good review
@erikkalifornia5182
@erikkalifornia5182 4 жыл бұрын
I started to feel like a pretentious asshole wearing my no-date sub, so I sold it and bought this Omega, black dial on steel bracelet. Couldn't be happier.
@pouriashapourian9759
@pouriashapourian9759 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John love your channel man. quick question, im trying to make a purchase decision but im not sure which one is better. Im thinking about getting a Panerai PAM 753 (base logo Radiomir) or Omega Seamaster 300m black on a black rubber just like the one which you have in the video but the black version. which one do you suggest? also which one holds its value better? Cheers, thanks :)
@m33ch_1
@m33ch_1 4 жыл бұрын
Panerai only holds value if it's the big case like 44mm and above. I would get Omega if your wrist is not huge , for Panerai if you can't wear 44-48mm case then don't bother
@TennesseeMike
@TennesseeMike 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Could you do similiar video with the Aqua Terra and Rolex Oyster Perpetual? I am considering both.
@matthewdavis8199
@matthewdavis8199 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Mosso (Watchbox) has an excellent Aqua Terra vs Datejust 41 video. Definitely check it out.
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 4 жыл бұрын
This video shows the superb antireflective coating on both sides of the Omega cristal that enhances the bezel view, on the other side the Rolex shows light reflexions that mask the bezel view.
@Tenerio
@Tenerio 4 жыл бұрын
I have "Datejust41 bi colour" i bought for 13K and wanted to buy a "hulk sub" as a sportwatch but not available in any rolex store for months, just online for double the price so i finally bought a black omega gold steel "seamaster diver 300m chrono" for 9K. So beautiful! I love rolex but its hard to get some for a fair price.
@iconsult4usolutions644
@iconsult4usolutions644 5 жыл бұрын
Hello JP, good video, not sure if it has been mentioned on the comments; but correction on 4:36-4:41 the triplock is a term coined by Rolex and Rolex has the "triplock crown" and not Omega as you describe in the video during those 4-5 seconds, that's probably what you meant to say...just an observation and not criticism...best regards!
@brelaxed13
@brelaxed13 5 жыл бұрын
i can't stand that rolex doesn't use AR coatings! why does that not bother anyone else? at least put it under the crystal...
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Even a single layer under the crystal is cheap and easy. I can buy a $40 Seiko SKX sapphire crystal with dual AR coatings! Come on, Rolex!
@devinbrown7426
@devinbrown7426 4 жыл бұрын
Expensive watch with a foggy lense 😂
@Mohammedalyafeimusic
@Mohammedalyafeimusic 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree... I can’t stop laughing when Rolex said it doesn’t but the coating because of the blue finger print!! OMEGA did it with a big smile :)
@gasparjohnson3774
@gasparjohnson3774 4 жыл бұрын
Because in reality they are flim-flam operation and that relies on their Rolex Crown kool-aid to sell watches.
@cityslickeroutdoors8306
@cityslickeroutdoors8306 3 жыл бұрын
brelaxed13 - Rolex is cheap and nasty and lazy. Projects a bad message about the wearers.
@freakincrazy6932
@freakincrazy6932 5 жыл бұрын
Have gmt, would love a omega, that dial on omega is interesting and beautiful.
@aleximd9244
@aleximd9244 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my Hulk at retail price in Wiena! I keep it like my precious!!! Omega seamaster is a perfect watch though and in order to exclude any fight I have an Omega too!!! It is almost as ok as the Hulk!
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Aha good point!
@portingfreak
@portingfreak 3 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow austrian at what store did youve bought the hulk? Wagner?
@aleximd9244
@aleximd9244 3 жыл бұрын
@@portingfreak yes wagner juwelier
@portingfreak
@portingfreak 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleximd9244 letztes Mal als ich nachgefragt habe wegen Stahl Modellen (egal was) wurde mir gesagt 10 Jahre min. Wartezeit
@aleximd9244
@aleximd9244 3 жыл бұрын
@@portingfreak meine hulk war in 2017 dez, milgauss 2019 und batman 2020 aug . Ich habe alle papiere. I can proove it!!!🥰😇
@jobber1984
@jobber1984 5 жыл бұрын
I like this new seamaster alot, likely will be my next target. The hands aren't perfect though (just my opinion).
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 5 жыл бұрын
mike c I agree. I think it’s almost perfect, but I wish it had Plant Ocean hands. Also the smaller PO He valve.
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, I find them hard to read at night. I love my Seamaster 2250.5
@reedgrabowski8314
@reedgrabowski8314 5 жыл бұрын
Great video John. Now it would be great if you would compare the Seamaster to the Tudor Black Bay 58.
@bingcrosby1378
@bingcrosby1378 5 жыл бұрын
the correct competitors for Omega are Tudor and Breitling. In todays market they aren't even close to Rolex.
@bobbremner3395
@bobbremner3395 4 жыл бұрын
The omega looks like a fashion Watch...but in a good way.
@warriorofsli
@warriorofsli 5 жыл бұрын
ZrO2 ( o not zero), its the formula for zirconium dioxide
@Bobbo123
@Bobbo123 4 жыл бұрын
Ok smartass
@OmegaR4y
@OmegaR4y 5 жыл бұрын
Don't like the reflections on the Rolex sapphire crystal. However, I also dislike the helium escape valve on the Omega
@ceantukes1803
@ceantukes1803 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the white dial Omega Seamaster. ABSOLUTELY beautiful watch. In all HONESTY, I do like the Rolex Submariner. However, I believe that the Omega Seamaster is the better watch overall. Just my OPINION
@JeremiahHartmanPhotography
@JeremiahHartmanPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
Id love a review of the Sub vs 300m (vintage dial) if you can
@durexjim
@durexjim 5 жыл бұрын
Omega all the wat for me
@265petsar
@265petsar 4 жыл бұрын
Forget about Rolex they have no thought for customers, who are now moving away because of their attitude. The quality to be found in the beautiful Omega SeaMaster 300 is breathtaking, and beats the Submarinier hands down for shear style and toughness. This watch is replacing the Subs gap in the market quickly, and Rolex are sitting on their name thinking they are indestructible.....wrong. Well Done Omega, my pennies are now being saved for this beauty. Having worn the SeaMaster in the store and owning a Submariner Date, and you see what crazy people are paying for a second hand Submariner, this is a no brainer. The Sub second hand price could fall with the onset of a watch like this leaving many burnt by overpaying. Whether it be to wear or as a possible investment this watch has to be closely looked at before making any future purchases.
@joshuacui2911
@joshuacui2911 4 жыл бұрын
How is price for seamaster 300 sedna gold
@jorgealvarez67
@jorgealvarez67 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Love the Omega Seamaster
@MrBulletpoint
@MrBulletpoint 4 жыл бұрын
Why do people review the silver faced version. It looks like a cheap toy next to the blue or black dial omega.
@HL-OOI
@HL-OOI 4 жыл бұрын
I only like the PO from Omega..😁 over the years they never changed that short hour hand..I feel it should be pointed ..
@Yoshikaable
@Yoshikaable 5 жыл бұрын
Did Hans finally give u gloves? Lol
@raymond2305
@raymond2305 4 жыл бұрын
Would be good to use a watch tray to avoid any scratches, particularly for watches that you sell.
@ajacks8007
@ajacks8007 3 жыл бұрын
Super awesome value from Omega! I just got the black on black rubber strap and it’s beautiful. So glad I got it! Great video also!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@jayarade31
@jayarade31 5 жыл бұрын
got the new seamaster. tomarrow i hope to go for the hulk
@hodad924
@hodad924 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the SMP black dial for 3500 in excellent cond on eBay for my 40th. That dial is just so unique whereas my Steinhart has the sunburst dial that matches the Rolex.
@mdesmet9111
@mdesmet9111 5 жыл бұрын
I've got the blue version of the Seamaster and absolutely love it! The dial is very special, can go from bright blue, to almost a mirror, depending on the light. Not a fan of any luxury watch on a rubber strap though, so I got it on the bracelet. I also love the submariner, but I'm not a cyclops fan. Have ordered a 'no date' version at the AD and have been waiting for months now, so that is certainly a frustrating aspect of the Sub...
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er 5 жыл бұрын
My Seamaster Professional Master Chronometer holds rock solid at +.5 spd on wrist. +.2 spd if i play with positions at night as opposed to just throwing it on my dresser. My PR gave up just past 64 hours last time I ran it dead. The hardened 316L in the Omega has been heat treated. The 904L that Rolex uses cannot be heat treated or cryo treated. It's a wash in terms of toughness, both on paper and in the real world. Omega's CEO stated that every SMPmc is tested to 425 meters.
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er 5 жыл бұрын
Update: I'm down to +.3 SPD just by placing it crown up at night on my dresser. Daily beater. 😎👍
@dougp.6108
@dougp.6108 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video and non-bias comments. Both beautiful watches but I also lean towards the Seamaster. I wish Rolex used anti reflective flective coating
@BCOnTheFly
@BCOnTheFly 3 жыл бұрын
Okay... So between these two the Hulk is an obvious choice for most, but why not a video of the Hulk an The Omega Seamaster 600m To me this would be a more fair comparison.
@drwindsurf
@drwindsurf 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you John; for the price Omega is the better watch, especially pre-owned...but I still think the He escape valve is unnecessary.
@drwindsurf
@drwindsurf 5 жыл бұрын
@Will Harris But seriously, how many saturation divers are going be wearing a Seamaster while working at depth? It is a mass market watch...but I guess it makes sense from a marketing perspective.
@drwindsurf
@drwindsurf 5 жыл бұрын
@@gp2712 That is awesome! Very cool job btw. Well then, point well taken. Thank you 😊
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 5 жыл бұрын
99.9% of buyers will never use the He escape valve, but I can understand why they added it. Thanks to the prevalence of the Submariner, any dive watch with a 3 o’clock crown inevitably ends up looking a little like a Sub. When Omega designed the original SMP over 25 years ago, their brief was to make it their own, and definitely not something that would be mistaken for a Rolex. Thanks to that He escape valve, nothing on the market today can be mistaken for a Seamaster. Really wish they hadn’t made it bigger in the new ones though...
@deltropico7
@deltropico7 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Rolex wins for me; simply looks like more (dressier, more versatile, timeless design, exclusivity, rarity, etc). Omega represents immense value, though.
@purplefabian
@purplefabian 5 жыл бұрын
Rolex is for douchebags and nouveau rich
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 5 жыл бұрын
Omega Man And most of them are bought by people buying them for no other reason than the hype around the brand, which results in new models being impossible to get new, and massively overpriced used.
@michaelbishop9157
@michaelbishop9157 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mega-zi7ys I think you can actually say the same for most watches. They're simply jewellery for men
@squirrelmurphy2855
@squirrelmurphy2855 5 жыл бұрын
Dressier? The Rolex is supposed to be a dive watch.
@davidrosenblum2178
@davidrosenblum2178 4 жыл бұрын
It's the Seamaster...this one specifically...for me, hands down!
@imadbasayev8541
@imadbasayev8541 4 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the Squale diver though?
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Have not really spent time much with Squale, sorry
@imadbasayev8541
@imadbasayev8541 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnPWatches You're missing out, it's a favourite among pretentious wannabe half-breeds.
@mickeydee3595
@mickeydee3595 4 жыл бұрын
@@imadbasayev8541 lol. I think the Mint green squale looks awesome even though its a Rolex ripoff
@vegass04
@vegass04 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like the hands on the Seamaster. I guess it would be sacrelidge to change original hands with some after market ones the seconds you get the new watch.. Or would it be?
@WrongTimeWatch
@WrongTimeWatch 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the Seamaster. Delete the helium escape valve, and give it a coin edge bezel and I would buy it.
@BobFrostV
@BobFrostV 5 жыл бұрын
Check out Ulysse Nardin marine watch for exactly that :)
@yankeedoodle6293
@yankeedoodle6293 3 жыл бұрын
Wish they didn’t bulk up the new Seamaster. Dealbreaker for me..
@jaygenz46
@jaygenz46 5 жыл бұрын
JP, excellent content again. I would love to hear Fed's rebuttal regarding the Hulk and Omega.
@jefferyneu3915
@jefferyneu3915 5 жыл бұрын
jay genzale I think Fed also has an Omega SMP (can’t say 100%).
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay!
@stevewarren4292
@stevewarren4292 5 жыл бұрын
How did you get Fed to take off the Hulk?
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
not his, we sold this one :)
@ssvs0485
@ssvs0485 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought the Seamaster in black and that wave dial is much nicer than the old one I just can't stop looking at it. Never liked Rolex so I got caught in the madness.
@richardsoos8902
@richardsoos8902 5 жыл бұрын
SSVS04 Wear it in good health, and do use it as intended, as part of a balanced sun and sea lifestyle.
@shipmate3577
@shipmate3577 5 жыл бұрын
I've been debating the past 6 months.... do I buy a Grand Seiko SBGE201 GMT or the new Omega Seamaster? I'm leaning towards the GS GMT because I think the Omega will come down in price in a year and I don't have a gmt. I love both brands. Big fan of spring drive, but also big fan of open/clear display backs (Omega has, GS doesn't). I wish Omega Seamaster rubber strap had the metal at the lug area like Omega did for the Aqua Terra rubber straps.
@caburnham1
@caburnham1 5 жыл бұрын
J.P. Can you go over the new Cartier Santos watches from the last two years. What do you think about their in-house movements? Was the simple eta in the Santos 100 xl better? Thanks for giving me some entertainment during other one of my deployments to the Middle East.
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I'll try to get some in
@eldiabolico3750
@eldiabolico3750 5 жыл бұрын
Own both, love them both :)
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
excellent!
@Mega-zi7ys
@Mega-zi7ys 5 жыл бұрын
Now that is being objective 😊
@slantyeyes4272
@slantyeyes4272 2 жыл бұрын
I own the SMP in black on the bracelet and love it. But if the Rolex Sub was attainable without the inflated price I would buy it in a heartbeat. I absolutely love the SMP tho it’s gorgeous… I just wish the bracelet was tapered although the quality is amazing.
@tarquesh
@tarquesh 5 жыл бұрын
The funny side is that i am searching for a descent dive watch starting a few weeks ago. Coincidence is that i like the submariner Hulk and see that the dial is also green, my favourite colour in general. The Omega seamaster is my choise, because of the safire crystal caseback where i can see the nice co-axial caliber. I don’t buy a diver to sit down in a chair in a house, but to use when i am at the water doing sports. Last sunday i was on a boat and i had a Seiko sportura on my wrist, and i missed my Swiss watch on my wrist. So i must be quick to have a nice swiss dive watch instead to wear my Japanese watch which i want to throw into a closet. Last i want to say about Ulysse Nardin. Sweet Swiss watches, and i can’t stop looking on them.
@InChristJesus87
@InChristJesus87 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the Seamaster yesterday and wow does Rolex need to start stepping it up.
@harrysmith3502
@harrysmith3502 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Seamaster 300 & planet ocean Ti, I would like a Sea Dweller to make an opinion. I was offered one by an AD during the early stage of Covid lockdown. They wanted £9K up front and I could have the watch when the shop opened... “When” I asked and they couldn’t say - I swerved that deal!! I would have waited 3 months.
@projekt679
@projekt679 4 жыл бұрын
Very subjective information but the one thing you can’t argue is the resale value between Omega and Rolex.
@shothorology9183
@shothorology9183 5 жыл бұрын
Great objective review.But I’m a convert to Omega. Too many QC issues of late with Rolex/Tudor. I bought a new Z-blue milgauss which failed to tick!
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 4 жыл бұрын
I think these are two very different watches for different buyers. These days divers utilize dive computers. I feel that anyone who buys a Rolex or an Omega is attracted to the brand and what it represents. Don't get me wrong, both of these watches are tough and durable and a very good buy.
@webbryan1
@webbryan1 4 жыл бұрын
The wall clock submariner in the back isn’t working
@Tony221100
@Tony221100 5 жыл бұрын
I love this Omega, and I am not a fan of the Hulk at all.
@beri232
@beri232 5 жыл бұрын
Tony221100 me neither.... I think it’s a hideous colour for a watch
@frisbee544
@frisbee544 4 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize for your lack of class. Frankly, nobody cares.
@daalb140
@daalb140 4 жыл бұрын
if its the old SMP's look + the new movement and display back
@rayquintanilla614
@rayquintanilla614 5 жыл бұрын
Does Fed know you snaked his Hulk?😆
@singflorent
@singflorent Жыл бұрын
Sea master very good price for value. I use it for my beater watch. The good thing with omega a lot choice of dial color to choose from.
@colinedwards4815
@colinedwards4815 3 жыл бұрын
Omega for me I am not going to dance to the Rolex dealers tune
@anderao9527
@anderao9527 5 жыл бұрын
man: clean once, stop wiping
@felixt1470
@felixt1470 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve commented same in other forums but I have to say the Omega’s date is really hard to read.
@MrEmbangweni
@MrEmbangweni 5 жыл бұрын
I do not have an opportunity to hold either watch in my hands, but just looking at the video of you holding them, and , well they both look a lot like sport watches to me.
@johnfrei9057
@johnfrei9057 5 жыл бұрын
So who gets to buy a new Hulk and are they still paying around $15K?
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Secondary market unworn
@johnfrei9057
@johnfrei9057 5 жыл бұрын
John P Let me rephrase: is anybody a good enough customer of a Rolex AD that they can get the Hulk - or some other highly sought-after Rolex - brand new and not marked up from suggested retail pricing?
@shaf1485h
@shaf1485h 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a good relationship with your authorised dealer and prepared to wait a long time then you pay retail. If you want it now you pay whatever the asking price. That why Rolex holds it value.
@johnfrei9057
@johnfrei9057 5 жыл бұрын
shaf1485h Thanks.
@Patomelb
@Patomelb 5 жыл бұрын
Omega is better in the movement department and is on par to the build quality of the Sub but I get Rolex is the brand to own atm which is a shame because omega is making amazing watches now days! I love both brands but I would not pay a cent over retail to own a sub when you can buy the SMP for half the price of a rolex sub and arguably is a nicer watch. I own a SMP blue on blue and a DJ41 because I could get it retail lol! I'm Still going to buy a sub to sit next to my speedy in my iconic section of the box, but I'm happy to wait for the call from an AD however long it takes.
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 5 жыл бұрын
THe Omega gives you a better watch. Rolex does a better job selling their brand, image, and story. It's hard to compete with a story. For me, I'd rather have the Omega. I think it's a better looking and more interesting watch. I'd feel that way even if both of these were equally priced and equally available. Fortunately for those of us who appreciate the Omega, they are easily available at below MSRP even for new ones and there are far more dial/bezel combinations.
@arthurscargill8010
@arthurscargill8010 5 жыл бұрын
I really love Omega but they provide an object lesson in how *not* to market luxury products. But then again their cluelessness means you can pick up fantastic watches for a great price on the grey/pre-owned market.
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 5 жыл бұрын
Arthur Scargill So true. They make more watches than they can sell, and don’t do anything to market them at all. But that just means I may in fact be able to buy one one day, unlike a Rolex, which I could never attain.
@TheSocratesian
@TheSocratesian 5 жыл бұрын
I hate the peace sign on the Rolex hour hand..
@romulus1300
@romulus1300 5 жыл бұрын
TheSocratesian same here. The Mercedes sign ;)
@TheSocratesian
@TheSocratesian 5 жыл бұрын
@@romulus1300 LOL!
@frisbee544
@frisbee544 4 жыл бұрын
And that, of course, is the reason you don't own one.
@crvq4521
@crvq4521 4 жыл бұрын
Look is subjective. The SMPc overtook the Sub with its Ceramic dial, display Caseback and 15K Gauss. If Rolex is gonna apply same improvements on their future Submariner it’s like admitting that they are catching up and it will be a tough pill to swallow because of the perception that they are the better brand. The Challenger challenges the Champion, not the other way around.
@bubbab7792
@bubbab7792 5 жыл бұрын
Omega has how many variations and special editions? Rolex has sustained this long with fewer variations why? Perception and opinions are going to be varied. That's why it's a good conversation. Profit margin? 😉 Good vid John P. 👍
@Yoshikaable
@Yoshikaable 5 жыл бұрын
It's a more conservative brand - some see special edition as fan service which is not their stance. Rolex comes in a plastic box, the Omega in beautiful wood. The idea is that Rolex knows best... For better or worse.
@markbarnes6626
@markbarnes6626 5 жыл бұрын
I checked your site and you don't have the Seamaster. Are you going to get it?
@JohnPWatches
@JohnPWatches 5 жыл бұрын
We had several at the time of this video- they all sold quickly. We get new watches every day :)
@monkeyballs512
@monkeyballs512 3 жыл бұрын
This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. Rolex is about brand name reputation, not quality
@casspirmk6338
@casspirmk6338 4 жыл бұрын
It does not matter which one you have.Always want something different
@lestercaldera3776
@lestercaldera3776 Жыл бұрын
I have both My omegas is the blue one I use it a lot more than my Rolex
@DavidBoyes
@DavidBoyes 5 жыл бұрын
Say in the title. Have the editorial courage.
@AndrewL31413
@AndrewL31413 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I would get the Hulk is to sell it for double and buy a speedy and a seamaster with change in the pocket.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex has an obvious wart on their designs: the Cyclops magnifier. If they made the date readable to begin with, like with an A. Lange & Sohne, then they wouldn't need to magnify it. The magnifier is an obvious indication of a design flaw. I can't believe Rolex aficionados let them keep getting away with that. However, the Seamster too has a wart: that ridiculous valve on the top left. I would never buy a watch with warts. I like the Omega GoodPlanet.
@gasparjohnson3774
@gasparjohnson3774 4 жыл бұрын
You left out the fact they lack of any kind of AR and every reflection comes off the dial like death rays!
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 4 жыл бұрын
@@gasparjohnson3774 I agree with you. I think they do it for the bling effect: "Look, I have a shiny Rolex." However anti-reflective coating on the inside should be a standard option for all of their models.
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