When I bought Movement in the early 1980s I was in high school and just been released from a child psychiatric ihospital. Still listening now when I'm 50. Still haunts me.
@jawknee40883 жыл бұрын
thanks for the story, soulminer.
@stephenoflynn502 жыл бұрын
never tire of listening ...
@Matias-td2te2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@thedelacruz5 жыл бұрын
This is an iconic show. These songs are hauntingly beautiful even if some are a little hard to swallow " some people look down on me. I hope they like what they see". Hooky is on the money. All of them in their inexperience especially without Ian look so vulnerable yet they deliver. Sounds pretty much like the album songs.
@naugjames4 жыл бұрын
A little hard to swallow? 😂 None of these songs are hard to swallow, they are excellent. The lyric you quoted isn't particularly scathing, lol.
@pressureworks4 жыл бұрын
Inexperienced? They've only been playing together since 1976.
@Anonymous-KB3 жыл бұрын
As many have described as “Unassuming” ... Passionately Novice. But very Very Good, and interesting. At least In my opinion.
@beaware648718 күн бұрын
Remember Granada TV was northern UK and NO wanted more to do with that than the snobby elite London exposure.
@MMCProductions9 ай бұрын
'Celebration' (Granada TV, recorded 23 April 1981, broadcasted 18 June 1981) Set 1: Truth, Procession, Ceremony, Tiny Tim (Doubts Even Here), Truth, ICB, Death Rattle (Chosen Time) [2 takes] Set 2: Little Dead (Denial), Dreams Never End [3 takes], The Him, Procession, Senses, Little Dead, Ceremony, Digital A few versions also ended up on a DVD as part of the 'Movement (Definitive Edition)': Tiny Tim (Doubts Even Here), The Him, Procession, Senses, Little Dead (Denial)
@Yvesdebxl2 жыл бұрын
This group is 4 individuals who were complementary to each other. A perfect harmony that unfortunately no longer exists
@DavidInSugarLand3 жыл бұрын
I love how Stephen is just doing his steady, 'human drum machine' job without fanfare behind, as always. And 19:10 Bernard looks so very young.
@offworldnetwork2 жыл бұрын
25 here
@buzzcrushtrendkill2 жыл бұрын
I love his style, he works that high hat while hitting fills and snare. I wish he got more camera time.
@christiankermorvant5704 Жыл бұрын
He always. Looks young.
@larrylevan4242 Жыл бұрын
Peter Hook looks like he's being played by Edward Norton
@lololop58 Жыл бұрын
20:53 this is a mood, basically that’s me when I listen to New Order.
@d.martin76923 жыл бұрын
Saw them in a muddy wet tent in Finsbury Park circa 1987. Worked on a machine in a factory listening to them on my Walkman. Real blue collar stuff.
@AndrewInCanada995 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the uploader, just wanted to drop in and say even if these videos don’t have a giant audience there are a dedicated group of us Joy Division/New Order fans that appreciate people who upload and pass on these these videoclips so others that are interested can watch it. Appreciate it. It’s great to have this HD footage of the band. I love almost every song here but “Chosen Time” “Denial” and “Ceremony” are particularly great.
@johnbacon94155 жыл бұрын
The fact that most of the sheep don't get it just proves how good this music is
@stevedavis7522 Жыл бұрын
Would not have any other way. Though the music is very poppy. The sheep could not processes it! Had school mates at the time they had no clue.
@paulmurphy7626 Жыл бұрын
Eff me.. this has to be one of my favourite performances by New Order now. Look at Gillian go on the guitar AND the keys! And Stephen cementing his place among the top echelon of drummers.
@KaiPonte Жыл бұрын
i've seen NO twice and didn't notice Gillian on guitar either time. i had no idea.
@Dermot29274 жыл бұрын
I recorded this on an audio cassette when it went out and listened to it for years. I never imagined it was Hooky singing the first song! I always thought he'd have a deeper, gruffer voice.
@GuilhermeJardim5 жыл бұрын
The line of Bass is amazing!
@deathwish12842 жыл бұрын
this drummer is a machine!!!
@walterswu Жыл бұрын
And yet he gave it up later for a drum machine. He's on every all-time rock drummer list.
@remoitalia95113 жыл бұрын
Tracklist: Dreams Never End - 0:00 ICB - 3:15 Chosen Time - 8:31 Denial - 12:30 Ceremony - 18:00 Truth - 22:53
@douglasmeneilley73213 жыл бұрын
Gillian rocks out on Truth.
@PetersPianoShoppe4 жыл бұрын
20:54 the great Dec Hickey, showing us what 80’s white-man dancing is all about!
@Postpunk-cx1ph3 жыл бұрын
Hookys memoir has pointed me here. The geezer is a legend! Busting moves solo with a tv camera hovering. I’m surprised he fit his massive balls into the studio!
@gustercc2 жыл бұрын
@@Postpunk-cx1ph I called her specially for this reason too. Just started the memoir and I’m already loving it.
@stephenoflynn502 жыл бұрын
@@Postpunk-cx1ph brill
@DanielMartinez-rr7pv6 жыл бұрын
WHOA! Are you fucking kidding me? Listen to the angst- lyrics and music- so fucking clear and pure! I never thought I would ever witness something like this! Thank yo so much, Dreams Never End! Evidently, my friend, they don't.
@thecapricorn112 жыл бұрын
my first new order album was power corruption and lies. I bought it in 1985. watching this crowd I feel like more people should be dancing.
@joshuanofuckingway4 жыл бұрын
Music i grew up on , can't seem to get enough of these live shows, especially all the joy division shows you can find on YT.... i just thank all you bootleggers that filmed/ recorded from the board/ or just managed to get these amazing show's from back in our recent antiquity and have shared them here ......
@seattlebeard3 жыл бұрын
I remember 1981 as the year when no one danced or barely moved in the audience. I was like the one guy in this video who was dancing. I had no friends, obviously. :o)
@davidellis51415 жыл бұрын
The first song on the first album. A classic. Can't wait for 2019 Reissue !
@brandonburroughs71285 жыл бұрын
Is there a reissue coming?
@Zezezeze695 жыл бұрын
@@brandonburroughs7128 it's already came.
@TriiangleJellyfiish4 жыл бұрын
David Ellis what’s the song name?
@davidellis51414 жыл бұрын
@@TriiangleJellyfiish " Dreams Never End "
@leonardoriosaraujo70534 жыл бұрын
What's a reissue?
@kaoduil5 жыл бұрын
This is precious footage.
@desert.mantis5 күн бұрын
Thanks for this awesome video upload!
@eddiebates31062 жыл бұрын
Gillian playing the guitar is sweet. Usually I've only seen her parked behind a keyboard.
@aboutdesouffle_ Жыл бұрын
20:53 iconic moment🙏
@martinparker65364 жыл бұрын
20:27 is just heaven ....then the way Hooky's bass rings out is the cherry on the cake.........AWESOME GUYS .......from a fellow Manc !
@douglasmeneilley73213 жыл бұрын
Excellent, saw them in Nov. 81 in Toronto. Movement represents a great transition from JD to NO.
@pesnevim16264 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Rehearsed above them at this time in the Rialto in Broughton. Brought back good and sad memories.
@mungofinalfi44804 жыл бұрын
17:23 - 17:41 Reminds me of Ian.
@jusufzemplin2 жыл бұрын
exactly !
@whychromosomesmusic57664 жыл бұрын
Had this lp a few years after it came out. Whole thing is absolutely great and brings back memories. I'll be 60 this month where did the time go! ;-)
@fredblair30184 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday:)
@whychromosomesmusic57664 жыл бұрын
@@fredblair3018 Thank you I thought some of these songs had a Joy Division sound to them. I saw Peter Hook in an interview online said that some of these songs WERE Joy Division songs that they never did. Hearing this I can see my room at the barracks/dorm at Iraklion, Crete when I was there 1984-85. Not that I'd want to go back there ;-) Although Crete was nice. Loved the food. I pretty much kept up with New Order's lp releases up to Brotherhood. Not sure what happened after that. I don't remember.
@fredblair30184 жыл бұрын
@@whychromosomesmusic5766 I never knew that thank you for telling me explains a lot. Good story unfortunately I am too young for the eighties although most of the music I listen to is 70s or 80s the golden era
@whychromosomesmusic57664 жыл бұрын
@@fredblair3018 Probably sounding old here but to me "unfortunately" and "young" are words that don't go together. I would give anything for the "misfortune" of being young again. Maybe in the rest of my lifetime they may create a time machine or device of some kind? I can hope ;-)
@fredblair30184 жыл бұрын
WhyChromosomesmusic haha yes perhaps the next great band is round the corner although at the moment I’d take that time machine
@kbrown6492 жыл бұрын
Boy…when Hooky started singing, I was pleasantly surprised! I dig this. And, I always say Gillian got picked on for no good reason. No matter what Hook writes, lol. She was just what they needed.
@hughiedavies6069Ай бұрын
I remember seeing this on tv , it changed the direction of my life, people need to remember the crap that most people were listening to at that time, this performance was groundbreaking at the time, I'd never seen anything quite like it on tv , they made a deep impression on me and my future.
@ALDERSONPHIL3 жыл бұрын
Was there.theyvdid a fantastic version of I.a.l.p which wasn't televised.im in the crowd at the end of dreams never end in an unknown pleasures t.shirt.i was 19.great memories.
@iamyourfuture8082 жыл бұрын
great quality, thanks for the uplosd DNE
@TomTropic2 жыл бұрын
The people at that time couldn´t imagine how we celebrate this show today!
@marclashley20622 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Needed this by accident.
@astral_null6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this! One of my favorite performances
@deanbriggs73936 жыл бұрын
Yes, had it on audio cassette. Great quality upload.
@linoportelli8240 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous upload. The chills it sends up my spine.
@bladeandsuki5 жыл бұрын
This is the best quality I've seen of this gig, thanks for sharing.
@Rodolphe19766 жыл бұрын
wahou !! the complete performanc with a really upgraded sound
@victorrodriguez57653 жыл бұрын
New Order son parte de mi recuerdo de los 80s que ama mi corazon... saludos de Peru.
@beaware648718 күн бұрын
Ahhhh...The Great NO era. Guitars and vocals yeah we had hope during the Movement release, then came Power Corruption and Lies, then it was all over.
@Dermot29275 жыл бұрын
I loved it when crowds stood and absorbed music, rather than jumping around mugging and trying to get their flag on tv.
@jumofi5 жыл бұрын
No fuckin mobiles times! People enjoying the gig...
@BurtonRdForever4 жыл бұрын
@@jumofi well said. Fucking hate that "gotta film everything culture". What happened to memories.
@MaximumJoy3 жыл бұрын
@@BurtonRdForever playing devil's advocate here, you wouldn't be able to watch a gig like this after the fact if no one had filmed it. I do understand the appeal though, there is next to no evidence of the Sex Pistols' legendary Free Trade Hall gig.
@matthewjdouglas64713 жыл бұрын
Last gig I went too was 1999 oasis. No smart phones was perfect.
@iamyourfuture8082 жыл бұрын
@@matthewjdouglas6471 you should get out more Matt
@gimmeshelter722 жыл бұрын
I once read that this ( 1st song in this set ) is the song they Sued The Cure for copyright on when The Cure released In Between Days ( released 1985 ). They were not successful but you can hear why they might have had issue with In Between Days
@Ruben_Godoy5 жыл бұрын
Gracias!!!!
@wowihaveachannel48622 жыл бұрын
Wow fantastic thanks
@MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa20 күн бұрын
"Hey, aren't you the band whose vocalist committed suicide?" Being on TV playing with your band barely a year after Ian's gone. There's more to the picture than meets the eye. P. S. Ceremony, one of the most amazing songs ever written.
@mikefiore22594 жыл бұрын
Bernard was so monotone in this...in Taras (soon after) with the same songs he found his own voice and went away from the monotone
@alanwaites86273 жыл бұрын
I spotted me
@firstboyonthemoon88762 жыл бұрын
The chords and the riff after the verses of 'dreams never end' sounds like the cure 'in between days '
@Nick-ne4ln2 жыл бұрын
It really does, although dne came out before in between days
@cosmicslop12723 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@TheJerr822 жыл бұрын
1:28 Dreams Never End " solo" ... Mi favorita.
@johnladoe68604 жыл бұрын
Gillian is 80's hot!!
@TheArpomni23 жыл бұрын
Shame Joy Division was booked into playing Riverside Studios on return from the US, and was going to play Ceremony and Heart and Soul, shame it never happened and what great footage we would of had
@donnybrooklads2 жыл бұрын
In NEVER wanted to go to the US of A. He detested everything America stood for then. He was NEVER getting on that fucking plane!
@kennethcrandall55573 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@paulmca97319 ай бұрын
This should be in the National sound archive. ❤
@patrickperrin8237 Жыл бұрын
merci :)
@antunivanovic4 жыл бұрын
At the time, Hook had a much more effective voice to lead on these songs. Confusingly, his deeper range on the studio version really had a Curtis touch. But maybe it was conscious decision by everyone in the band, that they step away from the "Joy Division II" connotations thus Bernard taking over. His lethargic tone of voice stayed weak (and out of tune) to the present day but altogether gave New Order a trademark charm all of its own. A great early live show, this.
@Elias-no9fy4 жыл бұрын
It was indeed a concious decision! If I recall correctly they picked out the vocalist that sounded the least like Ian.
@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion3 жыл бұрын
Can't play bass and sing. JD's tracks had the vocals go around the guitar not the bass.
@neoisis93733 жыл бұрын
@@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion Yeah Hooky has explained that was part of the reason. Neither of them were very good at playing while singing, and they could arrange songs to have the guitar alternating with the vocal, which is pretty much what they’d already done in JD, but it wouldn’t work so well to have the bass cutting in and out. Also iirc he said Rob auditioned them and thought Barney was the least bad of the lot.
@nicholassmith76362 жыл бұрын
Fancied Gillian sooooo bad after seeing this when I was older than I am now
@danmcdonald8522 Жыл бұрын
This set of songs is an amazing look at the sound and haunting style of 80s new dimension prog rock
@marciobanfi23314 жыл бұрын
PARABEN$ NEW ORDER brasiL13 ama vocês ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~y~
@carbonfibrecanary31685 жыл бұрын
Cheers for this upload - some of this footage - Ceremony was used in the NewOrder story documentary from the 90's wasn't it?
@NOWtheband4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@desertornacionalista59592 жыл бұрын
7:18 It looks like Bernard is crying or holding back from crying, remembering Curtis.
@remko1238 Жыл бұрын
So shy,, but heroes at the same time JF / NO made music for all times to come
@johnniejukebox2 жыл бұрын
Beauty is Truth thats all you need know..
@javiervedas14444 жыл бұрын
😍 😍 😍
@thebard4144 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow that was Jillian playing guitar!
@neilwilliams87415 жыл бұрын
watched it [mate rang my house and the old duchess said mikes on the phone about new order...no idea bless her]..manchesters finest..the days of lois jeans adidas trainers soul music..inter city jibbers
@colmanchester93 жыл бұрын
Manchester Music & M9 Kidz on sale now for charity a factory fairy tales story from a true Manc
@bighill827220 күн бұрын
21:07 A lone dancer ahead of his time 🙂
@jumofi6 жыл бұрын
DNE is a very classic NO. Do not know the band dropped this song.
@creekandseminole5 жыл бұрын
Probably because of Hooky
@onepointsixoneeight4395 Жыл бұрын
New Order at their most intense best.
@tonyalder4 жыл бұрын
So a year after Ian Curtis took his life must have been a tough time for the rest of the band,just to think two years later and blue Monday such a change because here it’s still more joy division than new order. But saying that all bands evolve
@daviddockery89625 жыл бұрын
Drunk Barney 20:13
@brirags3 жыл бұрын
Forever Joy Division
@BurtonRdForever4 жыл бұрын
See a few Perry's in the crowd. Always had a massive football hooligan following. Looks like Barney has partaken in some whizz.
@gustercc2 жыл бұрын
“Whizz “?
@BurtonRdForever2 жыл бұрын
@@gustercc amphetamine sulphate.
@paulmcarthur35144 жыл бұрын
No superlatives are good enough.
@RustyShackleford90005 жыл бұрын
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNNNNNNN
@Fac323JQ2 жыл бұрын
New Order at their best
@Mancheguache4 жыл бұрын
fucking brilliant
@pcalf101 Жыл бұрын
Learning on the job.. especially Gillian
@godsstruggler87833 жыл бұрын
The album made in purgatory.
@paulmca97313 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@Darin_Willow2 жыл бұрын
Gillian looks just like greek or roman goddess
@pablobarrio12702 жыл бұрын
ICB es Divided by joy de Sumo,.... no sé quién se la copió a quién.....
@user-go9lm3gi6c2 жыл бұрын
Петер Хук жалко что ушел.
@sylvainrichard66795 жыл бұрын
The kids showing no respect to Gillian ! Just ignore her and turn them backs !
@sammencia79453 жыл бұрын
0:01 I contend that Dreams Never End was a JD song they had been working on that was never played live like Ceremony. It simply sounds too much like LWTUA era JD. Peter sang lead - he sang no other NO tunes, and his deep voice sounded like IC.
@Saturn-gv9ru3 жыл бұрын
Dreams Never End is likely the very first original New Order song. Peter Hook came up with the bassline right around the time Ian died, might have even been the very same weekend. From there the rest of the song was written around the bass part, and Peter wrote the lyrics. He also sings Doubts Even Here, the second to last track on Movement, though that song was written by Stephen Morris.
@aurelionasvw4 жыл бұрын
show d +
@alexfletcher51923 жыл бұрын
Kings of rhythm.
@GuilhermeJardim5 жыл бұрын
Bass 6 Strings!
@futurereducer4 жыл бұрын
It's a 4 string. He just plays it well.
@neoisis93734 жыл бұрын
futurereducer no it’s a 6 string bass
@futurereducer4 жыл бұрын
@@neoisis9373 watch the video. You'll see there are 4 pegs. Look and pause at 5:12.
@clappingjazzhands94084 жыл бұрын
futurereducer he played more than 1 bass. Look at the first song. 2:45
@futurereducer4 жыл бұрын
@@clappingjazzhands9408 Ah! Okay! You are all correct on that. Sorry. Ha! I would like to say though that in general Hooky does play most songs with a 4 string including Dreams Never End in most performances. Ha! You got me on that one though. Cheers!
@boc4135 жыл бұрын
is that hooky singing on the first track?
@jebdunkins67965 жыл бұрын
Yes! He sang lead on two tracks from movement "Dreams Never End" &"Doubts Even Here"
@vinnieblesi10095 жыл бұрын
Peter Hook and the LIght search it.
@Wheresnorth4romhere5 жыл бұрын
It took them a while to figure out who would be lead vocalist after ian died. They chose barney but it took him a while to grow into the role. Thats why the vocals are shared in their early days.
@NOWtheband4 жыл бұрын
No. It's Jillian Gillburp.
@FracturedImage6 жыл бұрын
Is this without the overdubs?
@dreamsneverend93806 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@FracturedImage6 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the soundboard recording and not the broadcast version which they showed with overdubs. I was just asking which version of this this was
@dreamsneverend93806 жыл бұрын
hmm, I've never seen a version with overdubs, I'm sure it's original soundboard
@FracturedImage6 жыл бұрын
You probably have heard it, it was included on the Live In Glasgow DVD. The version you have just seems to be an edit from the soundboard synced up with the video from that because it sounds exactly like the versions I uploaded kzfaq.info/sun/PLvhtFJLy0g8uqpEDWD1bl-lDCLctdqXwo
@jumofi6 жыл бұрын
I could swear that this big guy on the front was next to me at Finsbury Park concert in 2002.
@xxxxxxxxXeroxxxxxxxx3 жыл бұрын
what's the song between 13 and 17 minutes?
@daveshousestudio3 жыл бұрын
"Denial"
@aransaspass Жыл бұрын
Wait, is he doing the Carleton dance at 20:54?
@pressureworks4 жыл бұрын
Around this time, a record company exec said to me; these guys will never make it, they sing out of key. Years later they headline Madison Square Garden.
@stevedixon85673 жыл бұрын
Gillian's stuff only just fit on that podium
@daledillard4326 Жыл бұрын
Fire the soundman! Mark Smith would never have put up with that.
@canaldosgames79762 жыл бұрын
Ian mal tinha morrido e eles já criaram outra banda
@wowihaveachannel48622 жыл бұрын
Oops I got somezcoted I pedd my pants!
@damedolladame4 ай бұрын
First performance of Ceremony since Ian’s sad death. Must’ve been insanely nervracking…
@mrlux07163 ай бұрын
they already played Ceremony before that, here is an example