New Organ in an old Case | Netín, Czech Republic

New Organ in an old Case | Netín, Czech Republic | Concentus Moraviae

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0:00 Intro
05:04 Portunal 8'
13:39 Copula Major 8'
19:30 BWV 531

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@vjerkovjeverko 8 ай бұрын

Vrlo lijepa prezentacija orgulja, kulture, baštine, crkve, mjesta. Vrlo zanimljivo i lijepo. Uvijek imam volju gledati duže bez obzira na dužinu videa. I poučno je. Rijeđe i ja sviram orgulje. 😊

@vaniberi8189 Жыл бұрын

I believe they call it reconstruction, because they have recreated the organ with its original disposition (and scaling?) that was once in place there, hence missing Principal 8. Not that unusual for Eastern European organs with a smaller case. The heights of the case could have been also limiting factor, at least for a full length 8 Principal all the way to the bottom C. I still think the sound is very wholesome, Portunal ang Gamba seems to be a pretty good make-shift Principal...:) Very nice, genuinely Bohemian/Moravian colourful palette, just love it!

@pavelhrubes7479 2 жыл бұрын

NICE ! BEAUTIFUL SOUND ! NA JIŽNÍ MORAVU DORAZIL POKROK! JEN TAK DÁL.

@gregoryvozar6236 2 жыл бұрын

My sincere thanks for your stop demonstration and concert. I confess I thought the specifications of this organ very odd, but I was completely won over by its interesting pallet of colours and the way you employed them. While the lack of a true principal chorus seems an disappointing oversight, the instrument proved to be quite spunky and expressive.

@brucetominello325 Жыл бұрын

As an organist of great talent you know that you have to play the organ that you have and not the one you wish you had and it sounded GREAT!

@WINCHANDLE 2 жыл бұрын

Just exquisite. I love the Bach North-German-esque P&F starting with a statement on the pedal.

@jofido 2 жыл бұрын

An amazing church and setting. What a gift for this community. Balint, You have selected a wonderful piece that fits this organ perfectly. Thank you for sharing this with us.

@stevenbergstrom4360 2 жыл бұрын

Your video brought to mind the miraculous combination of music and a sacred space. I thought of the collective prayers of generations of people mingling with organ. Im glad you were able to add your own talents to that mixture

@howardbaitcher5464 2 жыл бұрын

This shows the competence of this master. He quickly figured out how to use this organ to its full advantage. Bravo doctor!

@mkroeseler 2 жыл бұрын

Vielen Dank für die schöne Vorführung der tollen, "kleinen" Orgel mein lieber Herr Balint Karosi ! Der Klang ist wirklich "hervorragend" ! Ein großes Lob an die Orgelbauer !

@richardrye7200 2 жыл бұрын

What a lovely organ in a beautiful place! And it has a wonderful, blessed uniqueness that is truly outstanding!

@jozsefmakai9194 2 жыл бұрын

KÖSZÖNÖM SZÉPEN!

@sukeyfrugalfrau Күн бұрын

This instrument truly sings under the hands and feet of Balint Karosi.

@marcelobrunorodrigues7630 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent demonstration and performance on this exquisite instrument! Congratulations, Balint!

@dionyztakacs Жыл бұрын

Köszönet ezért az orgonabemutatóért is, nagyon szép hangszer ez is. T. Dénes

@renaldtremblay8333 Жыл бұрын

Toujours parfait! Quel merveilleux organiste! Quel musicien! Merci beaucoup pour ce superbe concert …

@OldPannonian 2 жыл бұрын

A very enjoyable demonstration of a nice little organ, played by a much admired Master.

@pierrelauwers8719 2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that it is not quite little: 21 stops. With this size, it should be based on a 8' Principal on the great as this would have greatly enhanced the effect of an otherwise very interesting organ.

@OldPannonian 2 жыл бұрын

@@pierrelauwers8719 Yes, Balint mentioned that some 8 and 4 foot Principals are not well represented in the organ. Still, I love its sound.

@tomast3108 2 жыл бұрын

@@pierrelauwers8719 ...in an old Case

@pierrelauwers8719 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomast3108 The Pedal also do not correspond to that case dimensions. We have a 16' Pedal, a 4' Great and a 2' Positive.

@martinbednarik8377 2 жыл бұрын

@@pierrelauwers8719 When we mean pedal als 16´ with one closed and one lingual stop, then is HW 8´ tet there are 3 8´ and one lingual. yes it it a compromise for this litttle organ case. for the positiv itĺ be better with 4´ principal. but again how in this case? When It will be as original, it wil be in Main: 5 stops in positiv 4 stops and in pedal as 12 tonal 3 stops.

@artie360 Жыл бұрын

Wow, how beautiful. Whatever shortcomings this organ might have it sounds absolutely wonderful. Thanks for sharing this with the world. Total enjoyment!

@ExAnimoPortugal Жыл бұрын

I really love this organ so much I want it. It's so quirky with the choices of stops and overall design! Some of it kind of reminds me of "our" Iberian organs - lot's of bright high pitch stops, but very colorful nonetheless!

@MW-qv7ph 2 жыл бұрын

Contrary to some I really like the palette. It's so very German with some of the Slavic flavour.

@socialite1283 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see such a full audience for the concert. Demonstrates the support in the area for organ music.

@owenesquivelph 2 жыл бұрын

Love the stoplist of this instrument based on my flavor of soft unison music...

@owenesquivelph 2 жыл бұрын

Church of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary Netin, Czech Republic (CZ) Jan Komornik, 1780-81 Attentus Qualitatis, CZ 2009-2016 HAUPTWERK (54 note, C-f3) Portunal 8 Rohrflute 8 Gamba 8 Prinzipal 4 Spitzflote 4 Nassard 2 2/3 Flote 2 (Waldflote) Terz 1 3/5 Mixture 1 III / 1 1/3 V Schalmei 8 Zimbstern POSITIF Copula Major 8 (Gedeckt) Coupla Minor 4 Prinzipal 2 Quint 1 1/3 Sedezima 1 Tremolo PEDAL (27 note, C-d) Subbass 16 Prinzipalbass 8 Quintbass 5 1/3 Octavbass 4 Schnarrbass 16 (Basoon) Couplers: II/I, II/P, I/P

@kiqw 2 жыл бұрын

What a lovely instrument! Thank you for sharing this information and demonstration.

@agogobell28 2 жыл бұрын

I like the three 8’ stops in the Hauptwerk, even though none of them is a principal - the viola da gamba adds a quasi-principalising colour to the two flutes, at least to my ears.

@ExAnimoPortugal Жыл бұрын

I like it as well. The fact the sound is so gentle makes it perfect so as to not be overwhelming in such a small church.

@sneaquexxmaster 4 ай бұрын

wounderfull video! very nice little village.it s so nice to see that this beautyfull church is in this very good condition. After the long periode of the socialistic terror government i didnt expect this fine condition. it s also nice that in this small village the people deciceded to build a new organ for this lovley church! it s phantastic to see that there a such a lot of dffrent stopps in this small organ.the voices had a fresh and delightfull sound! dear master of organ thank you so much for this perfect presentaion of this phantastic organ! it was a pleassure for me to see this video!

@l000kin 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! I missed your concerts at Concentus Moraviae :-(. I live in Brno, only 65 km from Netín and 30 km from Hustopeče. I will regret that for a long time...

@franzjoseph1729 2 жыл бұрын

Krásný Instrument.... škoda, že se toho nedočkal Mons.P. Frantisek Hrůza

@ianbrowne8871 2 жыл бұрын

I found this a fascinating musical and architectural case study and not an easy one to resolve and to decide how to make the essential compromises . On the plus side the church is rather lovely and calm rural setting and it is not the place where you might find a new instrument - so full marks to those who made it happen. The use of marbling in a calm grey on the pine (?) cases is a delight and fits the rustic setting and the generally simple and restrained palette used in the restoration of the building. The placing of the organ in a west gallery is the best place for an instrument and the small peal division was neatly accommodated in the tower. My first thought was the lack of strong enough 8' Principal and wondered if the three 8' stops together would form a better foundation. 18thC organs in England always demanded the use of a Stopped Diapason (wood or a metal chimney flute) to support the Open Diapason which was often in the cased a bit irregular in speech. I suspect the problem of having a stronger Principal then raises the issue of a balancing with the chorus on the Ruckpositiv. Anything stronger would completely overpower the other manual. The stop which did grate after not very long was the mixture which was a bit like broken glass and everything sounded lacking in bottom! Strangely enough I found the 5 stop positive much easier to listen to, the Principal 2" was strong but it held everything together. I was so pleased you played the JSB so that we could hear the whole instrument and it worked well. I would still calm the mixture but every organ is unique, to its building, acoustic, architectural aesthetic and setting and has to do other jobs than just please the organist's pipe dreams. I was so pleased you had a good crowd to listen to you play and to bring a dead case alive with music making again. It has been a hot day in England 32C and our town music festival and organ week has just begun with 15 private gardens open to the public. Pleased to report 250 came to enjoy my little courtyard cottage garden - and what better a way to relax at the end of a long and hot day than you hear you play this evening. The bats looping and doing acrobatics in the garden also enjoyed it!! Interestingly you described the location as Moravia. The Protestant Moravian community migrated to England in the 18thC and it was attending one of their meetings that John Wesley felt his heart 'strangely warmed'. Thus began the Methodist revival and the writing of some of the finest hymns in the English language.

@joannescouchet7038 2 жыл бұрын

The mixture has a tierce rank - common in Czech baroque organ building - which might contribute to the unusual sound impression. It seems like a very nice organ, although maybe not as characterful as an original, and probably could also benefit from a meaner temperament.

@ianbrowne8871 2 жыл бұрын

The nearest i have been to hearing a Czech organ was at the 1650s Peace Church at Kreisau which was in sight of the Czech mountains. It was played by an organist from Prague who gave me a CD of music by Brentner of the Bohemian baroque. I was officiating at a German/Polish wedding in this Lutheran Church. We could sing Lobe den Herrn three languages but i was very amused to hear Parry's tune Repton (Lush 19th Romantic!) played in the baroque fashion with a different harmony to each verse! Your comment about tierce mixtures is interesting as they were the norm on English organs built after Restoration of Charles II. Our organ building before that date was insular - no mixtures, reeds or mutations. It had machine common with Italian 16thC traditions. Renatus Harris introduced these innovations from France and "Father Smith' or more properly Schmidt form Germany and Holland. These gave a very distinctive reedy tone (and as with the Cornet), may have been favoured to mask deficiencies in the reed stops at this date. Our organs did not get Pedals until the 19thC and handle could only practice at St Paul's cathedral in London if he wanted pedals! Mixtures of quints and unisons came in the mid 19th C when many remarkable instruments were built. William Hill and his sons built fine organ in a more classical tradition than Henry Willis. He tended to use a tierce in the bass octave 17,19,22 and then resort to clearer unisons and quints for the rest of the compass. He said the tierce added clarity to the bass but hampered clarity above. Willis always used tierce mixtures but his organs were much more symphonic. It would be very boring if all organs were identical and this one has a definite character and all the better for that. It also depends on upon how the organ is used - I am not sure about the liturgy of the Catholic Church in the Czech Republic - how much is sung by choirs? Is there congregational singing of hymns or is that a more protestant thing? I am just pleased some one has brought a new musical instrument to this lovely village church! @@joannescouchet7038

@evanofelipe Жыл бұрын

Thank you Balint, I very much enjoyed your exploration of this instrument’s spectrum of sound ahead your public recital. It’s heartening to see your audience come together to appreciate your music in this wonderfully peaceful place. Loved it and subscribed immediately.

@SYLVESTRIVS 2 жыл бұрын

Kind regards from Brazil. You should come here in Mariana to see and test an organ from XVII century, speak withe professor Elisa Freixo, she is the curator and official player of that organ

@bkarosi 2 жыл бұрын

I would really love that! Please help me arrange it

@OneLSBHymnaWeek Жыл бұрын

The gamba and the rohrflute almost sound like a quint.

@TurtleFL Жыл бұрын

I wonder, and I don't think I heard, what the 8 foot Gamba and Portunal sound like together on the Hauptwerk. Maybe you can find a diapason-like sound there in 8 foot. The Gamba seems like a very thick string to me, maybe not very loud, but the Portunal might add weight to it.

@geuros 2 жыл бұрын

Are you still in the Czech Republic? I would love to show you the organ in my hometown, Telč, it's from 1725 with a lot of original pipes and only minor tweaks, it is however in quite a bad condition.

@emanuelecicchino7256 Жыл бұрын

Organista fantastico.

@marekzdaril6757 11 ай бұрын

. . . . 8ft Principal ?! . . . why - it is perfect as it is . . . . beautiful conception and voicing!

@marekzdaril6757 11 ай бұрын

. . . opps . . . .I mean concept - of course . . . . although . . . having this organ as a result . . . 😊

@majathomi3021 2 жыл бұрын

Ein derartiges Abend-Konzert ist ein Geschenk, für das ich Ihnen herzlich danke aus der Schweiz

@bkarosi 2 жыл бұрын

Danke sehr! Vielen Grüsse aus Ungarn!

@majathomi3021 2 жыл бұрын

@@bkarosi das freut mich sehr. Sind Sie einmal in der Schweiz?

@bkarosi 2 жыл бұрын

@@majathomi3021 Ich habe in Genf studiert. Wurde gerne mehrere Konzerte in der Schweiz speielen!

@majathomi3021 2 жыл бұрын

@@bkarosi das müsste doch gelingen. Z.B.in Luzern ist?

@martinbednarik8377 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You very much.

@jrzzrj 2 жыл бұрын

👍 Always enjoyable.

@vjerkovjeverko 8 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 🥰🤗🌹

@thunderhands3274 2 жыл бұрын

I like flow 1 minute moment whose from start of Smetana Moldau.

@guustheelen5144 11 ай бұрын

Who has built this new beautiful instrument??

@sethdietrich4648 2 жыл бұрын

Why Portunal? It is a word of which I have never heard. What is the origin of the word? Is it a stop name that you have encountered elsewhere in that part of the world?

@eacromorne4829 2 жыл бұрын

I know this register name from the Aubertin organs. In Vichy there is a 16' Portunal at the Great division. There are some 4' Portunal in Mariager, London, ...

@martinbednarik8377 2 жыл бұрын

In a Moravian country it is a garble from bordun - bordunal - portunal. But it was in XVIII C. always as a wooden open stop that stand like the Principal stop.

@tomazzitek2110 2 жыл бұрын

You can find it in historical organs around Middle Europe such as Check Republik, Slovakia, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia. It having roots in Check Organbuilding tradition of 17th Century. It aparently coming fron Latin world "portare" - holding, holding main tone. Portun 8' is wooden and open stop, in small organs with stopped bottom octave. Scale very close to Principal 8' as well as character of thr tone. It was used, at the time, instead of much more expensier metal Principal.

@ExAnimoPortugal Жыл бұрын

It is also called sometimes portunal flute. The word portunal is believed to be a corruption of bourdon.

@ladislavvojakovic6748 2 жыл бұрын

Le a kalappal előtted,nagy fej vagy.Nem lett volna rossz, ha a Principal 16 Principal 8 úgy bele szállt volna Fisk op85 Stanfodból ebbe az orgonában. és azzal a hangzással ,igazábóll csengett volna a templom.

@bkarosi 2 жыл бұрын

Köszönöm

@martinh.7857 10 ай бұрын

I didn't get it: who is the builder?

@martinh.7857 9 ай бұрын

@zeusantony5027 2 жыл бұрын

Of all the various instruments that you have demonstrated so well this is the only instrument that I have to say I dislike. Perhaps it is the voicing not suiting the acoustic which seems quite resonant. There is not a single stop which even on its own sounds appealing. Sorry but that is what I find. I am presuming that the recording microphones were a suitable distance from the gallery and not up with you. I admired your genuflection on entering the church. In this day and age much appreciated.

@wouterattheorgan 2 жыл бұрын

The instrument is definitely interesting but for the case layout and time of the old organ it was built in pretty impressive stoplist. But indeed the prestant 8 is a bit of a dissapointment. The reeds sounded good to me though nice gnarly low end

@bkarosi 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I tend to agree, it is the neo-Baroque voicing

@TheJakeman789 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds ok, but the console is honestly ugly, and the stop selection Is pathetic, and no presets? No thanks.

@BohumirStehlik 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunatelly, this is the style how organs are being built in the Czech republic right now. As much original as possible even if it throws sticks under the players feet. In my church they are building a similar "museum", kinda nonsense... It is a gigantic baroque church and we will have a 19 stop 2-manual.

@tomazzitek2110 2 жыл бұрын

The style of the console might be reconstruction of the original one. It is obvious, the whole instrument was rebuild from previous one, which were possibly destroyed in II.WW. It is very possible organ was rebuild via Historical Trust. When they are involved there are very strict rules.

@christineroberts6759 Жыл бұрын

I thought it very unusual but not unattractive. Beautiful little church. Beautiful sounding organ too.

@vaniberi8189 Жыл бұрын

It isa typical console type for historical instruments from this region, a modern cockpit console would be an abomination on that type of reconstruction project.