NEW Panasonic S5 vs Sony A73 - FULL Autofocus Comparison

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The S5 has a whole new autofocusing system build from the ground up for video with brand new algorithms but is it as good as the Sony A7iii?
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@MaksimYuryev 3 жыл бұрын

What do you guys think? Is it a good enough improvement over the GH5? let me know below! Order an S5➡ bhpho.to/32JLRxm S5 Amazon➡ geni.us/ZFSeG Lens used on S5➡ geni.us/vyn1 - Lens used on A73➡ bhpho.to/3jFbari

@hiawrj 3 жыл бұрын

I think people testing the autofocus on the Sony system camera needs to put it into Responsive instead of Standard. Standard has a built-in intentional delay so things coming into the frame by accident doesn't get focused on. This is very true with those 'pop into frame' test. My A7r4 grabs focus on small fast flying rice thrown at brides and grooms at weddings when set to responsive, but doesnt when set to standard, as an example if this behaviour.

@dejavuking 3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying my best to create a boycott Panasonic movement!. My critisims to follow are not aimed at any context creator and I appreciate they have all got to where they are through hard work etc!. That being said when I first saw videos of this camera an hour ago I thought great ideal camera then I found out Panasonic has allowed all content creators who have made videos like this and all the others released today to keep the camera and lens!! Unlike Sony who required all A7S3 units to be returned by all creators! Out of principal I will now not be buying any Panasonic products ever again. Why should I pay money for their products when they just happily hand out 100s or eve. 1000s for free! No sorry it's anti consumer and an insult to hard working consumers, and that is why don't doesn't do it, I was told that by a sony employee directly, they know it angers and alienates customers so they don't give products for free for reviews! Shame on Panasonic absolutely unacceptable. Just to reinforce good on the content creators I don't blame them at all it's the fault of panasonic, the creators didn't ask for free cameras Panasonic offered it! Anti consumer I'll now wait save my money and invest in a Sony A7S because I'll know my money isn't just used to give free stuff to 1000s of people!

@MaksimYuryev 3 жыл бұрын

They didn't allow me to keep the camera so I'm not sure whats happening with other creators.

@dejavuking 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I've heard this from a few creators now, camera conspiracies didn't get sent one to review and he's fantastic, chelsea and Tony Northrup have had to return theirs, but I know for sure Gerald undone was told he came keep he's one (again nothing against him, no critisim he's worked hard to get where he is, so deserves all good things that come his way). It now appears they are sending select content creators free camera kits which is even worse because they are picking favourites and alienating customers by making them pay and saying oh ya you pay but we're going to throw out tones of free cameras to select people!. Just want to be super clear all my critisim is firmly leveled directly at Panasonic not any creators! Such a bad look for panasonic, Sony just looks more classy and pro consumer!. Giving hard working content creators the opportunity to get early access to the A7S3 to make their videos but then need to return the camera same for canon!. But oh no Panasonic just dishing out free gear to their special favourite people sod all other hard working channels and loyal customers! :). Looks like I'm buying the sony A7S3 then 🤣🤣👍

@WMdot 3 жыл бұрын

@@dejavuking They probably told Gerald he can keep his camera because he "left" the Panasonic system and they want him to come back. It's not uncommon. Sony (and every other brand lol) have people called brand ambassadors ... THOUSANDS of them, that they give free gear to regularly... you know this right? lol my friend is a Sony brand ambassador and hasn't paid for gear since 2018. So if you don't like Panasonic just say that but dont use "giving away product to influencers" as an excuse.

@peternavanac9310 3 жыл бұрын

Thankful for a balanced, not Sony biased review. The impartiality make this channel great!

@cactustweeter2890 3 жыл бұрын

Max, it's nice to see Panasonic reach out to you on autofocus after they took their lumps from your GH5 autofocus testing.

@samsara1998 3 жыл бұрын

..& as a bonus the Panasonic footage doesn't look orange like the Sony

@TeabaggEditing 3 жыл бұрын

Just fix the whitebalance lmao

@DjVuyoUmlungu 3 жыл бұрын

@@TeabaggEditing Not that easy. Greys are magenta while skins are more green/yellow. If you wanna pull back the skin ur greys become even more magenta. If you try to make grey neutral ur skin basically green. Its needs a proper LUT to fix that. Which shouldnt be a problem to get very soon

@whoeverwhoever400 3 жыл бұрын

Or the Sony doesn't look peach like the Panasonic.

@destinfarr 3 жыл бұрын

The Sony actually looks more natural. It's typically the Sony's color science that is more magenta. But in this case that s5 looks straight up pink.

@fredriksvard2603 2 жыл бұрын

@@destinfarr usually it just looks green, idk how he got that pink result

@imamoviefanatic 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, extremely helpful detailed comparison review. Thank you!

@AdityaVarma 3 жыл бұрын

This is going to be a great test Max!!

@PlatinumONTV 3 жыл бұрын

GREAT JOB! I’m really impressed with the S5 in APS-C mode. If Panasonic can tweak the Autofocus Speed in Full Frame that would be perfect. This was the most informative testing I’ve seen so far. The direct comparison was awesome! Thx 🙏🏾

@JAXTWIN 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This is all I wanted to see.

@fangshizhu9383 3 жыл бұрын

The results look amazing. Have you tried using 3rd party L mount lens (sigma) with S5? Will the AF performance hold up to the native lense?

@1883entertainment 3 жыл бұрын

did you get to test out full frame 1080? A lot of my stuff I still shoot in 1080 for turn around speed. Just curious how it compares to 4K APS-C mode?

@michelangelodefranchis5374 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, looks good autofocus especially in aps-c 60fps even 24fps. But how does it work at low lights? the final version of the firmware is much better in full frame? can you publish some examples in low lights and with the new firmware? thanks. I would like to buy this camera what do you think, sorry my english i'm italian :)

@TheHitchcockBlues 3 жыл бұрын

How does the H264 422 footage compare to the R5 H265 422 which is uneditable on most systems? Same issue or does the H264 compression make it work okay

@shahabmeshki8369 3 жыл бұрын

very good clip to learn more about the S5 AF. Thank you!

@mrrolandlawrence 3 жыл бұрын

wow thats pretty good! more than i was expecting from panasonic!

@worshiptutorials 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison as always, Max! Random question for you: Have you done a video on your picture/color settings for the A7 iii (or Sony cameras in general) or how you color grade them? Your videos always look great, and skin tones, etc are spot on. Thanks!

@mmartel 3 жыл бұрын

very informative tests. Thanks!

@vloguy 3 жыл бұрын

Please let us know the lenses u used..coz lumix af not perform well with many othe L mount lenses...

@AoyagiAichou 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Max, did you manage to get your hands on the S5 recently? Has it improved?

@beatepeterschiller8007 3 жыл бұрын

Dear Max, thank you very much for your very informatif video. I have just one question. Why is the color of the S5 videos so poor, why is the image so red in comparison to the A7? Is this usual by the S5 or just in this video so. I thought the images of the S5 would be more natural. Many thanks in advance and greetings from Austria (EU).

@PolluxChung 3 жыл бұрын

Totally appreciate this comparison video.

@CharlieGreenberg 3 жыл бұрын

Great Job Max, thanks a lot!

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for an amazing comparison video!

@romsprod 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome work Max

@giannimoisson4000 3 жыл бұрын

The best test ever, great job.

@bmbfilmshd 3 жыл бұрын

Great informational video the autofocus looks good, hopefully they can do a update on there other cameras! 💪🏾💪🏾👌🏽

@marvin1885 3 жыл бұрын

Very good video! Helped alot!

@SDADanCars 3 жыл бұрын

Cool info Thanks !!👍

@jacknicholasny 3 жыл бұрын

Are the new algorithms going to the G9 and GH5?

@pavanteja1975 2 жыл бұрын

can you please do a video on auto focus settings for sony a7iii ..... which settings are best

@kentmemories 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison.. Please help to compare 1080/24-120fps as well, who is better?

@VirtualVillageStudio 3 жыл бұрын

Great work Max!

@EinzMY 3 жыл бұрын

How about vlogging with the Sigma 16mm 1.4 in aps-c crop mode on the Panasonic S5? Is it the perfect camera for vlogging?

@HossDiaph 3 жыл бұрын

Is it only software based? Can it be brought to the GH5 by firmware update?

@LaurentCourtin 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry Max, another question : does the S5 have the the focus transition / pulling function? It was really quite nice and reliable on the GH5. Thanks.

@shawnclarke1993 2 жыл бұрын

Is this AF firmware available as an upgrade for the s1h?

@mediamannaman Жыл бұрын

Which autofocus settings did you use: 1-area (with or without human/animal tracking)? 1-area+(with or without human/animal tracking)? Zone? Vertical/Horizontal? 225-area? Tracking? Human Detect? There are quite a few options! Just curious which one you used in your test.

@spec-productions5733 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Max, it would be very interesting to see one of your great resolution tests with the S5 vs other 4K full frame options. I have yet to find info on whether it over samples, etc. for the full frame image. Looking forward to your next vid!

@Rubin_Lopez 3 жыл бұрын

Over samples from 6k to 4k no lone skipping

@Rubin_Lopez 3 жыл бұрын

Also does internal 6k! I have that video on my channel if ur interested in watching lol

@kuttychattan1 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent max great job. Tanks for your time. It looks like you have enjoyed doing this project. I think you forgot to mention the AF speed setting in each cameras.

@ShotByGreenLightTV 3 жыл бұрын

Sony a7iii 🔥kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7yadZt92LGlYas.html

@fantasyhyper8050 Жыл бұрын

What settings you are using for autofocus?

@Marticulate 3 жыл бұрын

What I notice about comparisons with Sony cameras is how much nicer the highlight roll off is on the Panasonic. The image is a just a lot more 'pleasing'. Have a look at the hotpots on your face on the outdoor test. It's one of the reasons I use a GH5, the great image quality. The af for the S5 is better but not reliable which for most equals unusable for when you need it. This camera is not enough to for an expensive crossgrade from a heavy investment in MFT for me personally. Thanks for the video.

@icanpooptwiceadayyay8771 3 жыл бұрын

Hey max will there be a review of dell xps 15 9500 and dell xps 17 9700 BTW love your vids

@adazon 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if these autofocus updates are going to come to the gh5?!?!?

@charliestone1745 3 жыл бұрын

You should do a Panasonic S5 update after the firmware to see if the Auto Focus is any better!

@ormon71 Жыл бұрын

Hi, why at minute 3:10 and over, the panasonic image unclear and the colors dull and cold, compared to Sony?

@kiyotoshiyamauchi7618 3 жыл бұрын

As always, so informative! Contrast-based AF came a long way it seems!

@ShotByGreenLightTV 3 жыл бұрын

Sony a7iii 🔥kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7yadZt92LGlYas.html

@obmotum 3 жыл бұрын

Does someone know if Panasonic MFT Cameras are going to get these AF improvements (I own a Lumix G9) Thanks.

@DahSkada 3 жыл бұрын

seconding this

@ruhri0411 3 жыл бұрын

I guess we will see these improvements not in the current cameras, this will be for the new GH6. No one would buy the GH6, if these improvements are in the G9/GH5.

@professionalpotato4764 3 жыл бұрын

@@ruhri0411 The only benefit of DFD is that it's entirely software based, so if Panasonic wanted, they could probably put these updates into idk a GH1 or something if the processing capabilities are enough. Just hoping for a day Panasonic wakes up and use hybrid AF. Good powerful cameras, but almost impossible to use for solo hybrid shooters doing sports work.

@voltvisuals 3 жыл бұрын

No, they are aimed towards light vloggers and videographers. Don't think they will have good autofocus anytime soon

@DenisIvanovmg 3 жыл бұрын

@@ruhri0411 im not sure they'll keep with the MFT line.

@OfficeofthePacific 3 жыл бұрын

Max I was considering purchasing the Sony A7Siii, but the specs looked good on the S5. I want to use a camera only for music videos in the future when I get better. What is the difference between Full Frame and APS-C mode? It seemed like the 4K 24fps was much better for what I would be doing in the APS-C mode? Thank you for the great video!

@moenlighted7681 3 жыл бұрын

Get xt4

@JetBen555 3 жыл бұрын

So in APSC mode, it does a great job with AF because its a 1:1 readout and it doesn't need to do any extra processing for oversampling 6K to 4K ?

@ShotByGreenLightTV 3 жыл бұрын

Sony a7iii 🔥kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7yadZt92LGlYas.html

@itsmebrotherkc 3 жыл бұрын

Will they be implementing this af system in the other cameras of the S line series?

@TheOneMonk 3 жыл бұрын

Kyle Camacho It appears they will do this by end of the year with a firmware upgrade for S1, S1R and S1H.

@AndyLifeInVideo 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, really surprised at how well the s5's AF is in APS-C Mode! It was keeping up with Sony and exceeding it most of the time! But the S5 IBIS more than makes up for the sometimes shifty FF AF!

@robertomaddaloni5841 3 жыл бұрын

What were the sony a7iii autofocus settings?

@DangLeProject92 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Max, if you can please compare the S5 & S1 in everyway please ? I’m S1 owner and now so hard to make up my mind to buy new S5 or buy used S1 to pair with my current S1 🤔

@targarian5818 3 жыл бұрын

S5 footage looks little pink and pink shade also there.. is any colour problem it have ?.

@enfieldlover8145 2 жыл бұрын

max may i ask... lumix finally stepped away from the 4/3. makes a full frame camera that everybody was begging for. why does one test with aps-c crop? why would you do it on a shoot when you have a full frame options now? thank you. great video of course

@nabilahmedkhan8052 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton for this review ! There are many videos on KZfaq that just write off any of the Panasonic camera's autofocus outright !

@amcorockx 3 жыл бұрын

Is there also a panasonic S5 vs Canon R6 video coming? I am in between these 2 atm. Main worry is the overheating on the R6, and if you can do a normal video shoot with it without worrying that it overheats. (also the DR of the R6 )

@Clickumentary 3 жыл бұрын

The R6 will blow the S5 out of the water. You saw that the only reliable AF from this camera was in APS-C crop mode!

@amcorockx 3 жыл бұрын

@@Clickumentary AF is the least important spec for me.

@BenFly23 Жыл бұрын

I’d be interested to know what your speed and sensitivity settings are?

@wideawake94 3 жыл бұрын

The comparison I've been waiting for!

@80-80. 3 жыл бұрын

straight to the AF tests. Love it!

@MrRytisG 3 жыл бұрын

Its a nice review, but S5 corners look reddish, is this a camera bug, or something else? What about controls via WiFi or Bluetooth? Is there any lens (upon release) with O.I.S. ?

@AllThingsFilm1 3 жыл бұрын

Great job on testing the S5 and comparing it to the A7iii camera. I've seen S5 footage with particular AF settings that improved the response time in 24p. As with any AF system, the settings for AF are just as important. As you show, and as I've seen from others, the S5's AF works better at 60fps. As a film maker, I don't rely on autofocus as often as your average vlogger. To be honest, if you're a vlogger and most of your videos are just walk-n-talks where you're a consistent distance from the camera, you really don't need AF that often if at all. Unless you're occasionally holding up an object in front of you as you demonstrate in this video. Personally, I've already ordered the S5. Considering the improvements, and having shot a feature film with the GH5, I think the S5 will serve me well in my films.

@videograph 3 жыл бұрын

Is it still old contrast af working so good? Or it is phase detect based system?

@EdvardKALEN 3 жыл бұрын

Good only in APS-C mode... ничему их жизнь не учит

@1883entertainment 3 жыл бұрын

Still DFD contrast only

@supes0059 3 жыл бұрын

Soooooo what im getting is, the AF in the s5 is greatly improved and this is the production model, and to have somewhat of a consistent look with AF APS-C mode (for now) is best..I bought a G95 earlier this year and I love it, Might have to sell it , do some saving and pick this up for the holidays! thanks for the thorough video!!!

@PrVladimir 3 жыл бұрын

Can you compare between Nikon Z6 and Panasonic S5?

@JeanV1986 3 жыл бұрын

That's an excellent test, thank you! I'm curious how well or badly the S5 would perform with Leica or Sigma glass, since they are supposedly not supported for DFD focusing.

@farren7254 Жыл бұрын

They support DFD just as well as native Panasonic lenses.

@ImpactSpace Жыл бұрын

@@farren7254 Hey, didn't Sigma even get an update? Because I consider getting the 28-70 or maybe even 24-70 but I am not sure about AF. Will use it for 70% videos (DJ-mixes and talks) and 30% photos.

@aquissuk 3 жыл бұрын

I've not kept up with news and development, but does this replace the GH5 or is a GH6 still planned?

@lacijunga 3 жыл бұрын

It is still in production

@mtbboy1993 2 жыл бұрын

Since then firmware has been updated. S5 firmware is on 2.3 now. Not checked Sony yet. Do you have a test planned for new firmware? I know 2.0 improved focus, but 2.3 added Blackmagic Raw and more.

@Emilioh888 3 жыл бұрын

Can you test the dynamic range in v log?

@markovezmar5449 3 жыл бұрын

S5 or xt4 for studio video?

@faisalsheraz8101 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison...

@glpro2696 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison but I would like to see the low light conditions of the Panasonic

@leofreitas.video_ 2 жыл бұрын

great video brother, thank you very much. I thought the S5 loses in image definition too, bearing in mind that this is not the focus of this video, can you confirm this doubt that sony has more sharpness in the image than the s5?

@ThePhenomenalLife 3 жыл бұрын

Great job!

@frankwieczorek5112 3 жыл бұрын

Does dual ISO works for stills???

@eguitarstar 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a very detailed comparison. Looks like Panasonic have made major improvements with their DFD AF system. I hope it filters down to the M43 line but processing power on those bodies may limit this. We'll find out. The S5 looks like a great hybrid camera.

@ShotByGreenLightTV 3 жыл бұрын

Sony a7iii 🔥kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7yadZt92LGlYas.html

@fangshizhu9383 3 жыл бұрын

This is amazing. Seems like Panasonic camera could be finally used in gimbal tracking person shot.

@elmerlo421 2 жыл бұрын

Good job Vadim. You should talk about your weight loss and fitness you look great!!

@ahmd121774 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, you have followed years, excellent video, thank you from the heart. I hope that you develop your channel

@sunnysarkarwind 3 жыл бұрын

Splendid review.

@stevelaminack1516 2 жыл бұрын

I just got an S5 and I was very unhappy with the focus at night. I was thinking of sending it back and getting a7iii but maybe not after seeing this.

@manuelcaparco9068 3 жыл бұрын

the 60fps are in 4k on the s5?

@Alienform51 3 жыл бұрын

Camera Conspiracies sent me here ! nice channel

@emudojo 3 жыл бұрын

What about about against the latest Sony?... I might upgrade in a year from now to FF from M43 if things don't change

@MrAnuragindia 3 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend S5 for KZfaq one man army setup for product reviews/vlogs?

@tyronnezx 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@dirrito 3 жыл бұрын

10:14 when the dual IS kicked in... ahhh yasss...

@ookiemand 3 жыл бұрын

Great job Max! Great job Panasonic. Now imagine Panasonic did this improvement for their initial S1, S1R, SH1. I don't expect the G9 GH5 to get this AF via firmware... but it would be awesome if Panasonic did. I wonder why Panasonic took so long to improve the AF for video to at least get close to the competition?

@Weird_Quests 3 жыл бұрын

What would you recommend for a lens though for content creation?

@Rubin_Lopez 3 жыл бұрын

I got it with kit lens 20-60mm. Upgraded from the a7sii with the tamron 17-28mm. Miss the wide angle but the stabilization on the s5 is superb!

@Weird_Quests 3 жыл бұрын

@@Rubin_Lopez awesome and thank you!!

@ikedayoshio_of_joytoy 3 жыл бұрын

if you still have S5&R5or6 ,please compare HDR PQ on canon and HLG on lumix🙇🙇🏿‍♂️🙇‍♀️

@chacana-rando 3 жыл бұрын

In those AF tests for example in Vlog, you should try with sunglasses, because many times in vacations you do were them. i noticed lot of change AF while wearing glasses

@hellochriis 2 жыл бұрын

Why does the back wall look so different on both?

@charliegamez3056 3 жыл бұрын

Please do a match up of panasonic s5 to sony a7siii!!

@visceraljourney 3 жыл бұрын

Max is THE AF Test Guru :)

@baihu4u 3 жыл бұрын

S5 is looking much better than I thought it would. Shame about the EVF but the GH4 EVF wasn't bad at the same 2.5 Mil so it should suffice. It'll be a dope Christmas gift to myself. Thx for the test Max.

@Clodrock 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video. Not much of a video guy but I'm intrigued by the S1R.

@loamoa2898 3 жыл бұрын

The ALTSON EF-L Mount Converter enables the use of Canon EF-mount lenses on L-mount mirrorless camera bodies, and maintains full lens performance, including autofocus in AF-S mode, as well as in-camera correction and image stabilization technologies.

@sebulban 3 жыл бұрын

Quite a big difference in white balance?

@englea134 2 жыл бұрын

I have been hesitant about these two cameras for a while. Thanks for your video helping me to make the final decision,which is Panasonic s5.👍🏻

@beyondhometown Жыл бұрын

How is your experience with AF?. How is image stabilization..do u need gimbal to actually look like smooth?....

@LaurentCourtin 3 жыл бұрын

The S5 seems to have a magenta tint, compared to a greenish Sony. Not sure which is more accurate on that point. Max, how was the light in the room? Was ir more on the warm or cool side?

@Immortal__ 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm seeing too.. Ideally it would be something in between I feel

@Began2011 3 жыл бұрын

The aps- c mode is sweet on the S5. I'm surprised. Thanks for the video. I'm curious now on how the files edit in Final Cut Pro X.

@MaksimYuryev 3 жыл бұрын

Handle great!

@DirectorCyclone 3 жыл бұрын

@@MaksimYuryev does it handle better than the sony a7s iii 10 bit footage?

@MaksimYuryev 3 жыл бұрын

@@DirectorCyclone Very similar if you're both shooting 4:2:0 10-bit

@DirectorCyclone 3 жыл бұрын

Max Yuryev thanks

@MaksimYuryev 3 жыл бұрын

James Theo you’ll be ok but the Vega 48 definitely speeds up playback and makes it smoother if working with luts and such. I recommended people to buy it but the new 8 core i7 5500XT is a killer value.

@dkuchta5 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see this pushed into the GH5 via a firmware update. But I suspect it needs a faster processor. Plus, they need something to entice people to buy the GH6 when/if that comes out. So I doubt we'll see it in the GH5.