New Sanwa JLX joystick first look and teardown!

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Жыл бұрын

Just got the new Sanwa JLX watch as we take it apart and compare the differences.
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@robhimselfttv1474 Жыл бұрын

One problem with your video is that is not a standard JLF actuator. What you have in your hand is a Kowal oversized actuator and you can tell because the sides are not tapered.

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

aww crap! Thanks for the heads up. I totally forgot that was in there. I got so many sticks and swapping and mixing them up I didn't realize it. I'll pin this to the top so hopefully everyone will know.

@TheRealRustyGrill Жыл бұрын

Do you know if this would fit inside a viewlix cab?

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealRustyGrill Yes it will. It's the exact same foot print. Exact same top mounting plate as the original JLF. You can even save $2.00 and buy the JLX that doesn't have the top mounting plate and use the plates from the old sticks. arcadeshock.com/collections/frontpage/products/sanwa-denshi-joystick-w-base-harness-jlx-tp-8y-no-mounting-plate

@TheRealRustyGrill Жыл бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade is it possible to remove the plate? If I get one with it?

@robhimselfttv1474 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade actually I'm glad you compared it to the kowal oversized because I was curious how larger/smaller the JLX actuator is in comparison

@vholf Жыл бұрын

I didn't know about this Sanwa update, nice! Great breakdown too.

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

thanks so much! I had a feeling not too many knew about it plus there isn't too much info about the Sanwa JLX at the moment.

@beyien 11 ай бұрын

Pretty much everything i wanted to know about the jlx. Thanks for the video

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

@TheRealRustyGrill Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@Brock_101 Жыл бұрын

Them bullet tops look much more comfortable to use than the ball tops i currently have on my sanwas, thanks for the video never knew about them.

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

I must admit I was a sucker for those bullet tops because they said EVO and limited. But I'm really digging them! And thanks so much for checking this out! I had a feeling the Sanwa JLX were under the radar for a lot of people. I couldn't find any real video or much info on them so I figure this would be useful

@astrovewlix5929 11 ай бұрын

I'll wait until OTTO DIY kits are released for this new model. JLF with that kit is heaven.

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

I'm curious to see if they update the OTTO kits at all alongside the JLX. I'd say the OTTO is superior and it replaces all the components that the JLX has beefed up anyways so I see no need to switch out to the new JLX in your case even if they update the OTTO kits. Unless they do something way different.

@8BeatsVGM 4 ай бұрын

How do you feel about the throw? Same as JLF? (it should be shorter to compensate the short engage but...)

@TheLivingArcade 4 ай бұрын

it feels exactly the same. I do like the feel of that new actuator. It's a more solid material and it's smoother running along the gate. Not worth upgrading unless you're already replacing your stick. I ended up using the larger red actuator one from the mod kit even though it's not as solid but I like that it engages a little earlier then their new actuator. I am currently working on a video on the new silent JLX with the adjustable switches. Been testing it for a couple months. Stay tuned I'll be finishing that up soon. Is there anything you want me to address about that new stick before I finish the video? and thank you for watching!

@8BeatsVGM 4 ай бұрын

Actually I just ordered the JLX but its the regular one. Anyway, great feedback, thank you very much!!

@TheLivingArcade 4 ай бұрын

@@8BeatsVGM You're going to be really happy with it! If you get the urge to "tinker" with it check out the little "mod" kit they sell with different springs, gates, and actuators it's pretty cool if you're into that. and thanks again for watching hope it helped

@jgvtc559 Жыл бұрын

They reinforced it Is it like hall effect sensor or something How do they keep.em from getting stick drift if not

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

These are using micro switches. on or off. It's not analogue if that's what you mean.

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching this first look at the Sanwa JLX. Check out my Steam Games that are arcade cab friendly vid kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ap6ladqZ3eC5d4E.html

@johnlund3088 11 ай бұрын

The snap in rings are improved on the Jlx compared to the jlf where you easily could break them. The pivot is the same as the jlf silent and it also comes in sanwas modkit.

@darth-umbrex 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like jlf or jlx both need a otto diy upgrade. How is the spring compared to the jlf?

@TheLivingArcade 10 ай бұрын

spring seems to be the same as the JLF. I defiantly want to try the otto upgrade when I can. But if you already have a JLF with the otto there's really no reason to swap it out for the JLX. I actually went back to my seimitsu silent stick.

@thepuzzledmagician 25 күн бұрын

Hello, I just got the Class of '81 Deluxe cabinet, and I'd like to swap out the joystick during the assembly. Apparently, the control panel and the monitor are 1 unit, so I'm concerned that installing a Sanwa joystick might be different on the new cabinet. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

@TheLivingArcade 23 күн бұрын

I assume you mean the arcade 1up class of 81. I have not seen the inside of one before but I looked it up and I see how the whole control panel is connected to the monitor. Most of the a1ups I've messed with have sanwa clones in them so the footprint mounting plate is similar but not always. You may have to drill new holes or if the the metal plate on the factory stick can be moved over to the new sanwa and mounted with the factory plate. Also be aware that it appears that the stick is mounted really close to the volume and power switches. I believe its mounted rotated sideways so it fits in that tight spot. So you may have to take the sanwa apart and rotate the PCB with the switches internally so your directions up down ETC are oriented correctly. Make sure you set the restrictor gate to 4 way instead of 8 way (diamond shaped) the emulator can't handle diagonal directions and pacman will hesitate or get stuck because it doesn't understand diagonal inputs. Also be aware that the sanwa has a 5pin connector. I don't know how that arcade 1up is wired. You may need a harness adaptor like this www.diyretroarcade.com/products/plug-and-play-joystick-harness-compatible-with-sanwa-style-joystick-arcade1up-single or something similar. I actually just cut the factory wires and solder directly to the metal contacts on the switches of the sanwa. there's no spade connector but there's enough conductive material outside each switch to solder to. If this sounds like too much to deal with you can try putting in a heavier spring in the factory stick for a more snappy solid feel. The sanwa springs usually fit. focusattack.com/4lb-tension-spring-for-sanwa-jlf/ Check out the arcade1up modifiers groups on FB as well. Have fun and I hope this helps. Let me know how it works out.

@thepuzzledmagician 23 күн бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade Ok, thanks.

@DrunkDudley 6 ай бұрын

Have you tried the diffrent Red / blue gate inserts that can be swapped, red has rounded corners, and blue Im not sure but its supposed to be diffrent from regular square, bought the Sanwa GNT-R gate insert but did not realise you needed a special gate for it to fit, tried for at least 15 mins to put it in a regular sanwa gate, guess i should have read more closly.

@TheLivingArcade 6 ай бұрын

It's unfortunate that those little nuances aren't very clear with online vendors. I believe they're making all the new gates that way moving forward. The "mod" kit as they call it with those other gates and actuators is really cool because I'm the type that constantly messes with things. I was surprised how much I liked that red "square" gate with those rounded notches. It helps you lock in to those directions. I like the red oversized actuator too but I wish they made it out of that same white nylon material. The white nylon is a little softer and rides along the gate better. But I still use the red one. Stay tuned I"m working on another video about the new adjustable silent JLX that came out recently

@pacificostriker 7 ай бұрын

Do you know if it fits on 8bitdo stick? I want to change it for a sanwa. But if this new model works its better

@TheLivingArcade 7 ай бұрын

I have installed them on the older n30 sticks also known as the mayflash amzn.to/41dlQV8 And yes it fits the new one as well but both require moding the connector. This video explains it very well but he's using the orginal JLF which hooks up exactly the same as the JLX. I hope this helps kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bcqce8V-0b6-k5c.html

@pusasalata Жыл бұрын

Hello there sir! Aside from cosmetic design in both pcb's what's other difference between them? Is jlx has silent or still the same with the og one? I'm about to purchase that if there's a lot of difference but still same I think I'll stick to my jlf instead. Thanks sir

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

If there’s nothing wrong with your JLF I’d say stick with that until it breaks. The JLX is a little beefier in that plastic base and the actuator is really nice but it’s not a significant difference. Exact Same switches and clicky not silent. Stay tuned I do have a low budget silent mod I’m going to share and some purists will probably hate it. 😂

@aidanmccarthy9249 7 ай бұрын

I'd maybe upgrade if someone made an optical PCB for it. I love my GamerFinger one in my JLF.

@TheLivingArcade 7 ай бұрын

I'm bummed I missed out on that optical PCB that thing is cool! It should fit the JLX no prob but I honestly wouldn't bother. The JLX isn't significant enough of an upgrade. Just no reason to buy the JLF moving forward. I imagine the JLF will get discontinued at some point. From what I've tested everything is same size and parts are swappable.

@ENNEN420 11 ай бұрын

At school I'd see so many really crude drawings of the JLF PCB switch pattern drawn in the text books all the time. I don't know why either.

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

Interesting. Did you go to video game high school? haha J/K maybe there was a student obsessed with the JLF design or something.

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

@@jcramirez77 would you believe I was trolling him back with my response? Oh well that went over my head I don't appreciate his style of humor but at least the algorithm sees this as engagement.

@nacho7742 8 ай бұрын

Is JLX Compatible with 8bitdo arcade stick?

@TheLivingArcade 8 ай бұрын

I have installed them on the older n30 sticks also known as the mayflash amzn.to/41dlQV8 And yes it fits the new one as well but both require modding the connector. This video explains it very well but he's using the orginal JLF which hooks up exactly the same as the JLX. I hope this helps kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bcqce8V-0b6-k5c.html

@mightyhavoc2933 11 ай бұрын

So it's more or less the same then, guess I'm sticking w the Otto v5. Btw your fightstick setup looks sick! Might get myself a Nobi balltop as well. Also where did you get that dustwasher? I've been trying to find one that fits sanwa w/o the shaft

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

So the dustwasher I got at evo this year from attasa.shop/ It doesn’t fit perfectly but it’s good enough. Check Qanba website they sell dustwashers for their sticks and they use sanwa so there might be something that works from them direct. Yes stick with your Otto. You could flip the Otto to the JLX if you wanted but I dont think there’s a benefit. And my fightstick is actually the control panel on my chewlix. Check my chewlix video if you haven’t seen it.

@PandorusFightStick Жыл бұрын

why did they not make a pcb with removable micro switches. still soldered, why!!

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

You are so right! I don't know why I didn't mention that in the video. Granted arcade owners operators won't be interested in that at all. When you own 50-60 machines that use these sticks they will toss them and replace the whole thing even if one switch went bad. They don't have the time to do tedious stuff like that. But stay tuned I have a work around mod for it that will probably trigger some people. Your comment tells me I should make a video on it.

@astrovewlix5929 11 ай бұрын

easier to manufacture, easier to replace, less chance of things breaking during use

@vamp28k Жыл бұрын

But is it denser

@TheLivingArcade Жыл бұрын

🤣 yeah I now realize how many times I said that. I was so tired when I edited this.

@issamemoney 4 ай бұрын

Who is the best joystick in your opinion? Sanwa JLX TPML Or Qanba JOV8S ???

@TheLivingArcade 4 ай бұрын

I have yet to test the Qanba it looks really cool though. One factor is that the Qanba is silent. And the JLX is clicky you can really feel the JLX when you actuate the switches. For me when I tried a silent seimitsu I found myself pushing the stick really hard without thinking about it because I wasn't getting that "feedback" from it feeling that click. I did get used to it but the first few weeks my hand and wrist would actually get sore because I was pushing way harder without needing to or thinking about it because I didn't feel that click. Now I love it. But my taste changes over time for no reason. I am testing the new silent adjustable leaf switch JLX right now and I'll be putting out a video on that soon. I'll have to pick up that qanba later on and try that one when I can. I know you won't like this answer but it really boils down to preference. I enjoy trying new sticks. But its all about how it feels to you and if you miss more inputs or not depending on the stick you use. What stick is going to provide you with the most enjoyment? It's about having fun most of all.

@issamemoney 4 ай бұрын

Damn! I did not expect such a deep answer 😱 You are already an expert in this field You made things so much easier for me You are right, and as you said: all that matters is the stick that makes you enjoy playing the most I will go with Qanba And I will challenge you to a duel if you're a KOF player (just kidding 😂 ) thank u , thank u so much man 🥰

@TheLivingArcade 4 ай бұрын

@@issamemoney you're welcome! and it's very important to me to give the best perspective and insight that I can. I take it very seriously. I don't want to send anyone astray. I want to promote the fun part most of all. I love KOF but I'm terrible at it haha. Let me know how that qanba works out for you. I'm hoping to pick one up in a few months or so.

@issamemoney 4 ай бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade Thanks man It was an honor to talk with you Thank you for your honesty and your time Good luck, man you are the best 🥰

@issamemoney 4 ай бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade I subscribed to your channel with some of my other accounts hope this was somewhat helpfull for you HaHa 😂😆 Keep working man What you are doing deserves admiration and Respect Good luck man ❤️‍🔥

@beyondparis 6 ай бұрын

Hello, great video. Interested in testing a new arcade stick?

@TheLivingArcade 6 ай бұрын

Yes I would love to! Feel free to email me at prosperity@thelivingarcade.com

@RetroTuna 11 ай бұрын

Hello quick question you didn't cover the adjustable throw on the micro switches, have you tried adjusting them by any chance and if so does it make a much of the difference to tho ?.

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

Great question. I should have addressed that. There was a preview video from evo Japan that showed adjustable switches on a prototype unit. Hardly any other info and nothing official anywhere about those adjustable switches. And this final release doesn’t have any of those features. Just the normal omron switches they’ve always used. The only way to adjust is by changing out the actuator to different sizes. I think that whole concept was scrapped or there’s going to be a deluxe one later or a different PCB with those adjustable switches you can buy separately. But I can’t find any real info other then that one video unfortunately.

@RetroTuna 11 ай бұрын

@TheLivingArcade Ohh that's a shame for me that was one of the best features, well hopefully there will add them in a future realese.

@jcramirez77 11 ай бұрын

@@RetroTunaget a shuriken which lets you pop on different switches including seimitsu ones

@RetroTuna 11 ай бұрын

@@jcramirez77 yeah i supose you could do that but the adjustable micro switches wasa cool idea shame they did go with it, i using the Seimitsu SELS 70X really loving it.

@c2ironfist 3 ай бұрын

I swear that looks like a Kowal 1mm oversized actuator and not a Sanwa JLF actuator

@TheLivingArcade 3 ай бұрын

You are correct! I made a mistake on that. And another user caught it and I pinned it to the top I think. Please let me know if it’s not there anymore. I appreciate the feedback. I want to be as helpful and accurate as I can.

@c2ironfist 3 ай бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade the video was very helpful Thanks I just noticed the actuator because it's the minimal mod I'd have to do to the JLF if I was ever going to use one The actuation is way too long on a stock JLF

@TheLivingArcade 3 ай бұрын

@@c2ironfist absolutely! Glad it was of help to you. Also check out the “mod” kit that’s available for the JLX it includes an even larger actuator, springs, and gates. I use the super large red one it comes with for even shorter throw.

@xaahd 6 ай бұрын

Hmm, that's a shame. I think there's a lot of potential for real innovation in the joystick market and no one seems to really explore possible improvements. I think there's a big grey area between standard fight sticks and the leverless trend that's been picking up steam. Would love to see some creativity with lever fightsticks (and no, not a Crossup)

@TheLivingArcade 6 ай бұрын

I agree. I'd like to see some more innovation as well. I am currently working on a video on their new silent leaf switch version. But it's a weird space. Some people get so "traditional" they want the exact same spec stick they used on their 90s MAS stick or whatever. "They don't make them like they used to" kind of thing. Or crazy mods that are just too expensive. Like the optical boards they made a while back looked cool especially the magenta adjustable optical analogue board thing. They just made a hall sensor add on for it too! Crazy! Additionally, they don't want to risk an innovation that might not be "tournament" legal or get a bunch of controversy.

@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV 4 ай бұрын

All this shit should be pure steel

@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV 4 ай бұрын

btw your micro has a lot of interferences

@RAN-os5gz 11 ай бұрын

I have never liked this stick. Maybe that's not fair, maybe I should say I never understood why it's so popular but I guess it's because I'm a shmup player and not a fighting game player. I don't get why fighting game players prefer a stick with a HUMONGOUS deadzone but, again, coming from shmups if I want the ship to move I want it to move *immediately* I am not sure of the deadzone with this new one but I guess I will stick with Seimitsu

@TheLivingArcade 11 ай бұрын

You make a good point. For me personally, growing up in the US pretty much everything was Suzo Happ bat tops that I had access to. Then the JLF was exciting for me because it was different and came standard on the Street Fighter sticks. A year ago I switched to a silent seimitsu and I was really blown away by it. Going back to the JLX yes the travel feels like the grand canyon after using the seimitsu for a while. Now I can't decide what I like better. Seimitsu def. for shmups and fighters do feel better with the JLX and JLF for me at this point. But my taste keeps changing. I even find myself going back to square gates on my JLX after using octagonal gates forever.

@ocoro174 7 ай бұрын

omron? bleh 😐

@TheLivingArcade 7 ай бұрын

Haha! I know I was a little disappointed to see the exact same PCB with the same switches. But! Stay tuned I have a new video coming out soon with the new Silent adjustable Leaf Switch version! Been testing it for over a month now.

@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV 4 ай бұрын

so what is better then omron?

@TheLivingArcade 4 ай бұрын

@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV well for me it wasn’t an issue with omron switches. I was just disappointed to find the exact same omron switches they’ve been using for 30 years. After all the hype of an upgraded stick, and to find the same switches. Now the new silent adjustable leaf switch version is another story! I’ve been testing for a few months and I’ll be releasing a video on it soon.

@ocoro174 4 ай бұрын

@@TheLivingArcade adjustable leaf breaks easily. it's a downgrade if anything.

@ocoro174 4 ай бұрын

@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV idk at this point they could be coming out with optical switches or just higher life cycle switches instead of the same old same old. like kailh or ttc have good switches. and they should consider switches with a lever like seimitsu

@b4ds33d 8 ай бұрын

This guy can tell you the relative density of a part but can’t articulate how said density makes it better. It just does. Perfect example of a shill reviewer.

@TheLivingArcade 8 ай бұрын

thanks for the feedback