I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. F**k the ATF.

The atf recently did something or was this the encounter he had awhile back?

Too mainstream, more of a talking head then an activist sadly

Yes!!

@@fredrickmiltonthaddeusdoug9747 hate to agree

Any weapon?

@@user-fm9jj6bs8z YES

That is what the intent of 2nd amendment is

@@user-fm9jj6bs8z short of nuclear weapons? hell yes. The 2nd applied to cannons when it was written, so why not these guns?

@@user-fm9jj6bs8z obviously yes, any weapon. Aside from a job title theres no real difference between our military and our civilians. Lets not forget that a lot our military is between the age of 18-21 with little to no life experience and the govt is willing to let them handle millions of dollars worth of weapons and equipment so its not like theyre anymore qualified, other than basic training and whatever bare-minimum training they got rushed through afterwards

Yea I remember when Hornady announced this cartridge then boom ammo shortage I hope magpul comes out with a d60 or d 50 drum for 6mm arc and 6.5 creedmoor

Another empty suit throwing around buzzwords like "geometry" without a clear understanding of the cartridge.

@@computer_carnivore Exactly what I was hearing as well.

Love the SSE trig, but you could build just as good without the over priced components if you do the research.

Can report excellent accuracy and good terminal effect on pronghorn.

This will likely be a first amendment issue just as was the case for Defense Distributed. Art on a metal card does not a machine gun make without the supreme court approved phrase of, "something more".

bump

Haven't had any issues with factory ammo and the only bullet that doesn't feed right for me is a Sierra match king-if I load bullets with a 0.03" jump out more.

I use Ammunition Storage Components mags.

Very good comparison. I agree, the 6mm arc is basically a 6.5 creed lite

Same lol.

LoL! When one seeks to find something specific, one ends up missing what is unexpected. It's a suck fact, and just one more thing to add to the list of things that suck, lol. Still, I hope you find it, peace my Ninja 🥷

Same lol

Me too

Me too!

And yet it wont out perform the 6.8 Dasher from 18" AR setup.....sounds like you bought into 12 year old technology

It's awesome, and it's been around for almost 2 years commercially. In a civilian non plinking application it is in every way superior to 5.56. 6.5 Grendel mags work just fine.

@@userJohnSmith The 6mm ARC was developed in the last 12 months, they stated this in the video.

@@BB-1990 I've been shooting it since summer of 2020, when it was released to the public. I have meat in the freezer older than 12 months that it put there. The sales guy was wrong which makes everything he said suspect.

@@userJohnSmith Interesting, and yes suspect.

Check out Eagle Eye Shooting for solid info on the 6 ARC. He has been building precision rifles with the cartridge since it came out about 2 years ago. If you watch a lit of the other channels early semi auto rifles had horrible accuracy problems. Kenny worked out the problems and got the accuracy and performance that were originally promised out of a gas gun.

My question is why not 6.5 Grendel? It already existed, and is arguably better than 6mm ARC, and already fits in the smaller, AR-15 platform.

6mm arc is on the ar15 platform. Run 6.5 Grendel mags for it. Nice round for shooting distance

No. They solve different problems. I've been sitting the ARC since 2020. It kicks ass but it won't replace the .308 for machine gun fire.

But it's still a 5.56... the point of this upload was to highlight different cartridges that may give an advantage over 5.56 (6mm ARC is very impressive)

Especially for just a pistol configuration version of it. No way. At that price why not just give me the regular stock and sell it to me as an SBR, since the $200 fee is peanuts compared to the price of the weapon.

@@MiniDevilDF How do you know it'll be that much?

@@owenmick4575 because they “have” to be that much, any weapon that is first contracted through the government needs “approval” from the atf aka bribe them/spend big money

If you've got a .308 lower or ar-15 lower, you can just assemble your own uppers with the barrels & recommended bcgs for a lower pricepoint. And you'll get that sense of "pride and accomplishment" that you won't get from certain video games. ;)

PDWs are so cute! This one is up there with Q's Honey Badger!

I think you can. If they start selling the uppers for these by itself then just buy the upper online and slap it onto your AR lower.

🤣🤣He said special operations almost every sentence

Going to be drunk as hell at home

Back in the beginning of 300 AAC BLK a buddy and I had the market cornered and we contracted with several special operations weapons programs. I mention that almost more than the fact my great uncle is John Moses Browning!

You’ll be stone cold sober because he literally NEVER says “Special Forces” even a single time during this video. Not once.

Hasn't been too hard to find in Denver but realistically it's a reloader's cartridge. I have somewhere in the 500 range of brass in various states of loading at the moment.

I'm sitting here thinking the same thing. How have they over looked a cart that offered 500-800 [ or more] yard ability from a twelve inch package!

SOCOM’s procurement and logistics infrastructure, especially for the specialized sniper elements these systems are developed for, is considerably more nimble than the conventional army’s logistical behemoth. This is not a derogatory statement towards the army, it’s a mere statement of fact, as both entities are built and resourced differently. Also, the gentleman from Geissele did not articulate the four major strengths of the 6mm ARC and the way Geissele designed each platform: 1) it is based on the AR15 sized platform (not the AR10), which he hinted at with the significant savings in weight. Anyone who carried an SR25 or CSASS know instinctively what that means, which is a good thing. 2) The trajectory of the 6mm ARC is flatter and the minimal recoil of the cartridge affords the Operator the ability to engage targets out to 1,000 meters while never loosing the target (out of the scope) under recoil, while retaining enough energy so that the sniper can see his own “splash” and make immediate corrections without a spotter. 3) The 6mm ARC is, for the most part, “barrel length agnostic”, which means it performs very well down to a 12” barrel, thus can double as an entry gun and a sniper platform with the simple addition of a mini-red dot sight on a 45° offset mount to the tube or mounted on top. 4) In a logistics “worse case scenario”, the Geissele 6mm ARC and their 6.5 CM systems can be converted to 5.56mm and 7.62mm relatively easy at the unit level. Last, the gentleman did not mention one thing about the cartridge that is a useful piece of trivia: it’s the only cartridge that was designed from the ground up and successfully fielded in a time of war (with lethal effects) for a specific military customer prior to the public getting any wind of its existence. Several civilians mocked the cartridge saying “we didn’t need or ask for this round”, which is true. The Americans who are serious and tasked with killing people asked for this cartridge and they are happy with what they got.🇺🇸

Yes, but don't seek logic, when they scrapped no issue Beretta M9 in favor of Sig, same Sig that kept failing. Because they highly likely refused to pay Beretta their share due on next contract. I love my M9. Not many 9mm that can go neck to neck with it. In reliability, looks, and durability.

@@asador7922 That's all very nice about the 6ARC, but the 6.5 GRENDEL still has the best balance of compromises though. The 6ARC is a fine target round, but a combat round requires more than just transonic range, it also needs terminal ballistics, and cover penetration.

@@asador7922 In regards to logistics; you know what's going to happen if we're prest into a war. The major standard cartridges will take priority, and production of all these specialty boutique cartridges are going to be put on the back burner to whither and die.