NEW SRAM Red eTap Wireless Groupset - GCN's First Ride
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Күн бұрынYou've seen GCN's first look at the new, wireless SRAM Red eTap groupset, but how does it actually perform on the road?
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In this video, Si heads out with a group of journalists to put it to the test. With a unique new system for changing gears, SRAM Red eTap looked very intriguing when we recently got a first look. Well now we've been able to try it out on the open road. Find out in this video what Si, and pro rider Loren Rowney think about the groupset, as they take a ride around the beautiful roads of Schweinfurt, Germany.
We talk lever ergonomics, shifting performance and try out key shifts like when sprinting or dropping from the big ring when climbing.
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@andreasdalhaug9754 9 жыл бұрын
From 4:21 to 5:18 Simon looks progressively more terrified/sad each time he glances at Scott. Jokes aside though it was a great video! Much respect to you Si
@gcn 9 жыл бұрын
Andreas Dalhaug I was feeling a bit sorry for the guy, the group was pushing 40kph on the flat and I was interviewing him just off the back. That's so serious cool under pressure from Scott!
@RomaniaDeAzi 9 жыл бұрын
+Global Cycling Network I think electronic items like shifting shouldn;t be paired with bikes because the whole point of the bike is that it;s not bound by electricity
@Velodictorian 9 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to get Scott in the fit studio because his hips are wobbling so much and his knees are so far out.
@milanbabic92 6 жыл бұрын
He's running Cantilevers on his bike... damn!
@DN580 9 жыл бұрын
You are really making the SRAM guy work hard to explain his product, he looks like he is ready to be dropped any moment in his story. Reminds me of Matt!
@brakeforcake 9 жыл бұрын
Great vids! My dream bike now consists of the hydraulic disc version of these levers, and a frame that only has cable routing for the rear brake -no cable routing required for the derailleurs! This groupset makes a frame designers job easier -no internal cable routing for gears and no need for an internal battery as with Di2.
@mrlewis152 9 жыл бұрын
A wireless groupset test in Germany. I guess they have more work to do to make it 'Hans free'.
@gcn 9 жыл бұрын
Jake Lewis Someone's been keeping an eye on the Edinburgh festival!
@applesapple6675 9 жыл бұрын
Jake Lewis comment of the week?
@felixg4785 9 жыл бұрын
+Jake Lewis you just copied that from Facebook..BBC
@SD_Racing 9 жыл бұрын
Freaking love the electromechanical sound at the end of the video :) Shiftgasm!
@logfan85 9 жыл бұрын
After seeing the picture of Dan in the white Cervelo Test Team kit (who knew??" I can assure you that those are not the smallest levers in the peloton.
@Jamesah1975 9 жыл бұрын
I need this group set in my life!!
@williamking44 8 жыл бұрын
never seen simon so happy
@gcn 8 жыл бұрын
+William King when he finally gets his own groupset: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbaDjMZ5172rp6s.html
@williamking44 8 жыл бұрын
+Global Cycling Network i bet he has posters on his wall of it
@ochai2055 9 жыл бұрын
Si looked like a little excited kid on Christmas! It made excited on the new shifters, even though it costs loads of money (like loads)
@theylivewesee1674 9 жыл бұрын
since 90 % of your subscriber base don't have 10 k carbon bikes and can't afford eTap shifting you could do a review on new Tiagra 4700
@richardcook1987 8 жыл бұрын
+Esseker Fit Just buy 105. Tiagra feels shit in comparison
@dcottreau2 9 жыл бұрын
The method of front derailleur shifting on this groupset seems unfortunate. When you change chainrings on a mechanical groupset you almost always change at least one and if you're using a compact crankset sometimes even two cogs in the rear simultaneously with the shifting of the front. With this groupset the front and rear shifting would have to happen one after another as opposed to at the same time, disrupting a rider's rhythm.
@meccaryner 9 жыл бұрын
I live right next to Schweinfurt ... crazy! Hope you enjoyed your visit to Franconia ;)
@SASJACOB 9 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this for my Cervelo P5. I've always run SRAM red and been waiting for this for awhile. Hopefully they're using the new shifting setup for the TT bars.
@JOSHakaDRAGON 9 жыл бұрын
That little ring/big ring shifting was nothing short of sexy!
@sebastianmontero2010 6 ай бұрын
Oh my God! only 8 years have passed! it feels like an eternity
@GeorgeFarrowGreen 9 жыл бұрын
looks great! cannot wait
@Carmai7 9 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty awesome!
@jharris-pdxrides 9 жыл бұрын
Si, the GCN kit looks perfect with that Focus Izalco Max, I hope you pulled a Lloydy and made a quick exit with bike in hand.
@oswaldotte6936 8 жыл бұрын
I really like your video's, but the volume of the music is too loud for me compared to the volume of the speach. I constantly have to change the volume. Maybe other people find this annoying also?
@governator45 9 жыл бұрын
This video has incredible image quality, don't know what changed, but it's nice!
@redhunter1535 5 жыл бұрын
I have these on my Cannondale, I love them.
@Mandanara 9 жыл бұрын
New group ride excuse "Sorry, I forgot to charge my shifters."
@KandiKlover 4 жыл бұрын
Nice singlespeed you got there.
@MagliaNera 9 жыл бұрын
5:36 nice! I wanted to watch this.
@charliedillon1400 9 жыл бұрын
Couple grand for a drive train? I'll look for this on a 55 year old slow white guy's S-Works at a coffee shop soon.
@glennoc8585 9 жыл бұрын
+Raymund Regidor We will all hit the 55+ mark sooner rather than later and we will be slow compared to now. It's those cashed up former fast guys that keep the tech going so those parts become affordable to the younger crowd.
@glennoc8585 9 жыл бұрын
I'm much the same as i have the cash to splash but i still like to wait until i see a what i consider a fair price point. I know what you mean about the guys who are onto the latest and greatest but lack ability to start with but hey we all need those guys.
@Canucksteve 9 жыл бұрын
Its 'those' guys who keep your local bike shop in business. Without them mail order or go without.
@factsabouturmum9250 9 жыл бұрын
+brian fastabend I cri eri tiem
@SilkySpence 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Young Amen!
@JustAnotherDayToday 9 жыл бұрын
Si was all smiles like a kid on Christmas Day.
@iancornish2501 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Si! You said the shifting method was different to what most mechanical shifters would use, in that one shifter shifts up and one shifter shifts down -- how then do you shift between the big and small chainrings on a climb? "Little ring, big ring, little ring, big ring! Brilliant!"
@jrnamida5470 8 жыл бұрын
When will this be available for 11-32 WiFLi Cassette? I have a inclines and with my riding skill I need to use the larger size gears.
@jractv 7 жыл бұрын
hi i have a question the sram red 22 crankset its fit in any type of bottom bracket or no?
@leedorney 9 жыл бұрын
I like this more than Di2 just from looking at it - di2 has effectively 3 levers, this is more simple. I'd like to move away from the big S, as it seems to be confusing itself and having incremental altherations/changes between parts, so that you HAVE use whatever part. E-TAP: a bloody good thing!!
@oscar191067 2 жыл бұрын
ETAP is wicked and bombproof with maintenance ! ...interesting in this video chainring change is super quick....not on my set, much slower ! be interested to hear other users experiences of chainring change ?
@echtogammut 9 жыл бұрын
Having just re-cabled my SRAM Red shifters (getting the cable to thread through the shifter is a nightmare that involves liberal use of beer) I can't wait for eTap and never having to re-cable again. Whether I am ready to spend the money, well that is another question for another paycheck.
@redjumping 9 жыл бұрын
Evidently Si sold his gloves and glasses to put towards the groupset
@Toastybear1 9 жыл бұрын
big ring little ring.... thats very VERY impressive in my book :)
@LosihoTTT 9 жыл бұрын
Nice work Si, and it looks like a great Groupset. A few questions - (1) The front mech - does it still have the Yaw function, or does it auto-trim like DA Di2 9070 ? Did you get any cage rub in 53/25 ? (2) Shifting in the front - do you have to hit both buttons at exactly the same time, or will it still shift if you hit one button a split second before the second ? (3) You mentioned that the other parts are the same, but I will ask - I assume the Aerolink brake callipers are unchanged ? Thanks
@gcn 9 жыл бұрын
LosihoTTT Yeah the front mech still uses Yaw, and it worked perfectly on my bike here. As for the front shift, it activates a shift as soon as both levers are held down simultaeously. So you can press and hold one and then tap the other and it will shift. As for the brakes, I'm not 100% sure but I would assume they are the same. New graphics look cool though.
@dongcdfb7c 9 жыл бұрын
you sound a bit pretentious
@LosihoTTT 9 жыл бұрын
+mcguffin ??? A bit pretentious because I'm curious and asked more questions ? Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to the video, or do you just feel like trolling ?
@robwhite7976 9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to ride this
@mlcallihan 9 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff... any mention of a release date?
@theowylde7047 8 жыл бұрын
4.00 look at that guys pedalling style man all over the shop haha
@richardcook1987 8 жыл бұрын
+Theo Wylde exactly what i thought. My 2yo goddaughter can do better
@hugog930 9 жыл бұрын
Is si using a Quarq power meter and Garmin vector pedals.Also i was wondering if you could shed some light on bike fitting my friend who i race with has just had a bike fitting and says he feels better for it.I have a hemivertebrae and scoliosis in my back and this can occasionally cause pain once i have finished my ride or during it has also prevented me using tt bars.I have called around bike shops about bike fitting some say good things others bad for example they may change saddle height to much and cause you start using different muscle that you haven't used riding before and this can take a whole season to get used to using new muscles. I was wondering what your advice would be and if you had any tips. Keep up the great content :)
@williamkeys5701 9 жыл бұрын
Simon keeps smiling. I think he likes it.
@onejaz 9 жыл бұрын
I often shift from front small to big and back a couple of gears on the rear to maintain momentum and cadence, scooping both the paddles inwards on my Rival setup. Is this in anyway possible? Or will I have to shift into big then quickly try not to lose momentum before making that rear change?
@brianj1r144 7 жыл бұрын
i love my 1.2 frame, but for some odd idea i think it may be a bad idea to buy this for it. as i never used another frame. i have just upgraded the components. would it be alright to buy this or should i just try different frames that are carbon?
@svenamundsen4879 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I missed it but is the chain ring size limited to 53T or can a rider use a larger chain ring like a 58 for a time trial bike using SRAM Etap?
@amerpapi 9 жыл бұрын
oh Si, you're giving me job envy!
@jorgitogaitan 6 жыл бұрын
I have Di2 on my canyon and added sram eTap to a second bike I have (Giant) I have noticed that when totally crosschain happens (big ring, big sprocket) there is rubbing on the front derailleur . is there something not setup correctly? or eTap doesnt micro adjust front derailleur like Di2?
@alexbojanic7363 4 жыл бұрын
it does
@abedfo88 9 жыл бұрын
a lovely looking groupset! wonder how long it will be before we see electronic shifting trickling down to say ultegra, 105 groupsets
@glennoc8585 9 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Bedford I'd say within 3-5 yrs you will see a wireless option. Di is available for Ultegra.
@hogwash9140 5 жыл бұрын
And we have a winner! Here I am in October of 2018 and we have Dura Ace + Ultegra Di2 - as well as Campagnolo's new Super Record electronic groupset and something similar from FSA. But no one else has attempted the SRAM e-tap wifi method yet.
@thenerdycanadian7172 7 жыл бұрын
i wasn't expecting to see a bike with canti brakes in 2015...i guess they still work
@DRDubreuil 9 жыл бұрын
I currently use Di2 on my Tri bike which makes all the difference in the world being able to change gears in aero or while on the hoods. Hows battery life? That's a small battery in comparison to a Di2 system.
@blackspeedm3 9 жыл бұрын
How about if you want to shift to your small ring and down the cogs at the same time like I can on my Campag Record thumb shifters? Press both thumbs at the same time and now I'm working with shorter ratios and when I want to shift to my big ring and taller cog I press both paddles together and I'm working with bigger ratios. It does not seem possible with this...
@scottbagturbo 9 жыл бұрын
Etap is a great name for this!
@Brewiiii 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what stand he is using for his rear wheel in the intro clip?
@qwksti 8 жыл бұрын
Do the ETAP shift levers have the adjustable reach like the others SRAM shifters?
@philippd.6909 9 жыл бұрын
So if you have to press both buttons at the same time to shift to the other ring, you can't change gears on your rear derailleur at the same time right? I'd think that would be kind of a problem for example if you approach an ascent and want to shift into the small ring but not have that huge jump in cadence so you shift down at the front and at the same time into a smaller sprocket at the rear. How do you handle that kind of situation with that new kind of system?
@GingyAce 5 жыл бұрын
What is the model of the FOCUS bicycle he is using in the video? Thanks.
@wilmerbetancourth8233 9 жыл бұрын
Well who knew it, Mr Smith from matrix, is a road biker and an engineer, pretty awesome i think
@maximapropositio 9 жыл бұрын
So you guys are at the eurobike? Get in touch if you need some good places to ride/film/having a beer/coffee...live and ride here and know one or two places to go ;)
@robwhite7976 9 жыл бұрын
It's a bit like flappy paddles in sports cars
@metinbaydere 4 жыл бұрын
how about using the chain cross on the biggest gears on both side?
@altcode1510 9 жыл бұрын
Does the front derailleur works with Rotor Q rings?
@aquatecu.k.limited7075 9 жыл бұрын
Like Di2 it's just not relevant to private individuals, no team car for me when 50miles from home! At least mechanical can be Mcgyvered into working, when electronic breaks it's all over. As long as they keep a mechanical option at all levels and don't drop it for electric on the higher group sets fine.
@CatchFenceCori 9 жыл бұрын
Hopefully with two or three major manufacturers making electronic drivetrains, the common man will be able to afford it in the next few years!
@aarontosky2836 9 жыл бұрын
I've been riding the Ultegra DI2 for the last 2 years. Cant see why I would give up that to go wireless. My shifts are super fast, and the battery charge lasts for about 1000 miles of hilly riding.
@johnnycab8986 9 жыл бұрын
Yes! Now I can drop my chain in .0008 seconds instead of .004 seconds with the mech Force group I have now!
@macmausxp 9 жыл бұрын
do you have something to say about Microshift white transmision?
@kennyvdh 8 жыл бұрын
i mis a cobbelsection. can't you lose the battery on let's say cobblestones?
@jaspermccrea5441 9 жыл бұрын
Why isn't there an option to have the front change automagically when it needs to? No need to double shift the front DR. Just imagine a continuous sweep of gears and the left and right levers run through them all. A simple bit of software to change the front ring and shift a few at the back when the crossover comes alon..
@alexbojanic7363 4 жыл бұрын
AXS does it now :)
@Mrsev1100 9 жыл бұрын
You forgot to upload the video shown partially in the end, how to set up the e tap !
@horsey604 9 жыл бұрын
You have to press both buttons exactly at the same time in order for the front derailer to move, otherwise the mech goes crazy and shifts the chain up and down the cassete.
@cameronmason 9 жыл бұрын
I think Scott needs to watch your "How to pedal like a pro" vid!
@earthstick 9 жыл бұрын
Can you shift multiple gears on the rear with one push of the lever?
@alexbojanic7363 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@felixg4785 9 жыл бұрын
3:05 lol .."dude you are fucking slow..get off the highway"
@efesosnola9633 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah! This is the future.😲
@BradleyCox23 8 жыл бұрын
You need to get more of these corporate people out on their bikes, it's hilarious. I've never seen a man look more uncomfortable or unnatural on a bike as that dude from SRAM.
@ranchlazyo 5 жыл бұрын
Yep they are working their ass off in a cubical to supply awesome products.
@KunaevNS 4 жыл бұрын
That’s mean as hell
@66rhcp 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I want it. GCN giveaway? :P
@Nialll138 9 жыл бұрын
will you guys be at eurobike?
@jamiephilpott1179 9 жыл бұрын
can you review tannus tyres???
@spanish111japan 9 жыл бұрын
What's the song you use at 1:20? ps: Does Si have a cat? Lookat those arms !
@abedfo88 9 жыл бұрын
+Christian Ortega same here!!! haha
@71oliver1 9 жыл бұрын
My next groupset.
@bigballerbrands5758 9 жыл бұрын
Im glad the Brakes are cable and not wireless electronic, as I would inevitably forget to charge it! #BigCrash
@glennoc8585 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice yet still many pro riders are still using the old mechanical mechs in the Vuelta.
@James-ye7rp 6 жыл бұрын
So, when is there going to be electronic eBrakes?
@ChuiStrong 8 жыл бұрын
Scott looks so unnatural on the bike..
@KandiKlover 4 жыл бұрын
He's fine, just him ride man. Roadies always gotta be snobs about everything smh.
@Patrick94GSR 9 жыл бұрын
I equate this to something like air jacks on a race car. Sure you could install air jacks on a street car, but what's the point? Useful for racing, but a floor jack and stands is just fine for a street car. Similar this, useful for racing, but what's really the benefit in a non-racing scenario? I guess if you have money to blow... Then there's the issue of the shifting being completely different than every other system. So if you have multiple bikes you'll likely have to "get used" to shifting different every time you switch between this bike and another, similar to getting used to different clutch pedal feel in different cars.
@MrEnjaycee 7 жыл бұрын
What bike & spec are you riding?
@ernestpaul6444 9 жыл бұрын
Damn 79 comments and not a single one mentioned about the sexy crankset. MAN!
@glennoc8585 9 жыл бұрын
+Ernest Paul A sexy crankset, is there such a thing!!
@arqomx 8 жыл бұрын
i wonder why SRAM decided to alter the shifting pattern (normally left shifter for FD right shifter RD)..
@hchernandez03 9 жыл бұрын
poor Scott, it was painful to watch him on the bike. in any case, great video Si!
@zbqb84a 9 жыл бұрын
I'm still completely bought in to Sram's "Mechanical Advantage" crap where they emphatically stated that electronic shifting has no place on a bicycle. Either way, this was a nice commercial.
@katep4485 9 жыл бұрын
This video seems to be missing an explanation of how the shifters are different. I had to go find another article for a break down.
@gcn 9 жыл бұрын
+Kate Powers Hi Kate, this was the second of two videos, the first should do what you're after: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o6mdq72ArazSg4E.html
@BurnDuration 9 жыл бұрын
How long is the battery life?
@AlexandarHullRichter 9 жыл бұрын
5:59: try it out of the saddle!
@benjamin.kelley 8 жыл бұрын
Little ring, big ring! Are the eTap shifters the same as cable shifters in that the left side is front mech, right side is rear cassette? It sounded in the video as if the left front was front mech up and right front was front mech down, and same for the rear (smaller paddles).
@brianmcg321 8 жыл бұрын
No. They perform like paddle shifters in a F1 auto. Right hand up shifts. Left hand down shifts. Both together shifts the front derailleur.
@benjamin.kelley 8 жыл бұрын
+brianmcg321 I watched the Red mechanical groupset video and it explained it. It would be different from shimano, but winning it would be nice!
@BurazSC2 8 жыл бұрын
Scott never skips arm day.
@Dmitryzakharov 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice any pressure during shifting at around 5:50
@MrMbriceno 9 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to know about the battery and how long it last and charges.
@jackrobinson4441 9 жыл бұрын
Watch their other video :|
@carstenjensen6654 7 жыл бұрын
what model Focus er u riding
@_PATRlCK 4 жыл бұрын
Izalco
@ClaggyPants 9 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of Shimano pretty much due to brand familiarity but wireless might just be enough to sway me.
@EvilBambo0 9 жыл бұрын
poor FSA already lost the groupset race with their semi-wireless. Sram's eTap really hit the jackpot if the shifters play well with DA9000/ee rims brakes
@trannel73 Жыл бұрын
Is it weird I’m watching this in 2023? And aiming for a 2nd hand SRAM RED eTap? Oh my. What am I doing? :D
@Sebskie1 9 жыл бұрын
Start a new series on first rides with new equipment clothes bikes and innovations. The first episode could be Matt riding a lightweight carbon racing bike as his first ride in the 21st century
@rosshallard5208 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, GCN. Do you have any word on price or weight? How do you charge the units, are there 4 separate parts to charge? What's the battery life like? Also, what operation is required from the shifters to change chainrings? This was a little unclear from the video.
@samofdiamonds 9 жыл бұрын
They have another video covering this.
@rosshallard5208 9 жыл бұрын
samofdiamonds So they have. I'm such a dummy. Cheers.
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