The ending was HIGHLY validating - the messaging. The rationale as to why people freak out over the headlines. Good video Uncle Layne ❤
@espenstoro5 ай бұрын
Worrying about minutiae is gonna give you a heart attack.
@Oldmonstrosityshop5 ай бұрын
Paralysis by overanalysis
@atharva-naik27 күн бұрын
That's not even a joke 😅. Stress and lack of sleep probably kill more people than small dietary deficiencies.
@Romero6105 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Norton. I heard about this study on the way home from work. I said to myself, i hope Dr Norton does a podcast on this and helps clear some things up. Once again thank you so much.
@Gromobran3 ай бұрын
You have new one with him on a channel called Diary of the ceo
@jiujitsujunkee5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this so simple. I'm an exercise science student and used to get so caught up in mechanisms, and your explanation of mechanisms vs outcomes in human trials changed my view on everything.
@rm06c5 ай бұрын
It's very applicable to all of science. Like Richard Feynman once said (paraphrasing here), it doesn't matter how wonderful your idea and your model is, if it disagrees with experiment then it's wrong.
@ProdigalSunTzu5 ай бұрын
I think it was Red Fox who joked " they say i cant eat butter, no sugar.... Imma feel like a damn fool when im dying of nothing"
@rm06c5 ай бұрын
He also said "imagine if the Pilgrims ate bobcat with the Indians. We'd be eating pu**y every Thanksgiving." 😂
@kimdecker89015 ай бұрын
Beautiful explanation of complex biochemistry! Thank you! Gonna go listen to it again!
@cybervoid84425 ай бұрын
Nutrition made simple made a great video regarding this too
@dreckigerdan82575 ай бұрын
Thank you for that video, my mum sent me a news article about that study and I couldnt wait for an expert to talk about it.
@noreturn43965 ай бұрын
Simple diagrams might be helpful for the uninitiated
@Busy_on_bottom5 ай бұрын
6:20 Makes sense. Isn’t this why body builders eat protein every few hrs? To keep that rate limited process less rate limited? Just so happens it could also be facilitating sustained mtor activation.
@cyclobenchaprine5 ай бұрын
In theory, yes, but evidence no longer supports this. The real utility of eating frequently is ultimately getting enough food in without needing inedibly large portions
@blainebowling33035 ай бұрын
I was very interested in hearing your analysis. Thank you FTA!
@cherylnielson47105 ай бұрын
Even when Dr. Norton talks in an alphabet soup of technicalities I learn something. Glad he looked at this particular study.
@ellefson15 ай бұрын
Thank you for cutting through the hysterical headlines with solid logic. I appreciate the way you explain the study, both how it was constructed and how to interpret it.
@gwenlauterbach27065 ай бұрын
Love it! Thanks Layne for always breaking down pubmed-stuff for us 🙂
@ryandalessandro41395 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this one. Thank you!
@arnaudgolenvaux2995 ай бұрын
Excellent educational video Layne! Thank you so much. Very informative and clarifying.
@rebeccaaksdal58405 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Can’t say I understood all of the technical parts, but your interpretation and comments eased my mind about my high protein diet.
@lastfirst75125 ай бұрын
1. I love you 2. Long time follower 3 these new videos exposing or analyzing new studies are awesome 4. The ones where you show discuss these new stupid fitness fads like seeds oils are bad 😂 are awesome.
@simonoregan47445 ай бұрын
Sits down with a huuuuge grass fed steak to watch this
@mike87255 ай бұрын
Us all being here is a sign it doesn’t give heart attacks
@thinleylama62575 ай бұрын
I love your advice or information ❤ always watch and listen thank you
@cesargutierrez81655 ай бұрын
Layne, this video was very very difficult to keep up with. I can usually keep up with your educational videos, but this one was tough. Can you please try in the future to simplify them as much as possible as if you were talking to elementary students in science. I know you have to be very thorough with your explanation, but not all of us are experts in your field. Not trying to be rude, just trying to understand the logic and explanation in someway behind the topic. Thanks Layne, love The Coach, it has made me learn more about my body and metabolism than I could have ever imagine. Thank you to you and the team for creating such an amazing and unmatched nutrition app.
@AdamScottfit5 ай бұрын
Another great one. This was a prime example of mechanistic data and, like you said, not focusing on the outcome based studies. This is what the bioquakers have done for years. Looking at mechanistic data and fully ignoring what the outcome based studies say.
@BelindaEmanuel5 ай бұрын
I lie down on the earth and take a big breath in, that is to be happy and calm. I eat a balanced high protein diet full of fruits vege, plant and animal protein. That is to keep me alive! Keep up the good analysis Layne. Thanks.
@MrGrateful15 ай бұрын
I do exactly what he said towards the end. High fiber, lots of veggies, moderate amount of lean protein sources, along with resistance, and cardio training. Don’t smoke don’t drink in excess. I also spend a lot of time outside.
@staceyg17195 ай бұрын
Great video and final message 👏
@marsh84175 ай бұрын
Thanks @biolayne1 I saw this study and knew that you and Arnold would cut through it all for us mortals to make sense of it.
@br67685 ай бұрын
According to the FDA and the World Economic Forum.. I'm supposed to be eating mostly round-up infused corn flakes and.. insects I think? So I'll just continue to eat what makes sense to me. A balanced whole food diet.
5 ай бұрын
That is is simply untrue and made up dude. Try to be a little bit more critical.
@sudhanvakashyap2975 ай бұрын
link?
@elijahcaraballo29035 ай бұрын
It’s not made up.. go look it up on their website!
@br67685 ай бұрын
The FDA thing was a bit of a reach but glyphosate is actually in our foods that isn't a lie. The FDA, USDA, DOH.. one of those expensive, tax funded governing bodies have to know because I and other people know. They just let it slide on though to the supermarket shelves. The WEF is pushing _"bug based food"_ that isn't a lie either. Their thought process is it would be a solution to starvation. They are worried of potential livestock shortages in the future due to human overpopulation. I'm not sure how KZfaq handles external hyperlinks but a quick google search "WEF insects" and "Glyphosate quaker" you can see for yourself.
@br67685 ай бұрын
The FDA thing was a bit of a reach but glyphosate is really in our food supply that isn't a lie. The FDA, DOH, USDA.. one of our many expensive, highly staffed, tax payer funded, governing bodies has to be aware of this long before I was. Still these products still end up on our supermarket shelves 🤷♂️. The WEF is pushing for insects as food. This is very true. They believe the human population is too high and we can't supply enough meat for the entire population. This is their solution. Bug based food. I'm not sure how KZfaq handles external hyperlinks. If you google "WEF insects" and "Glyphosate Quaker" you can see for yourself.
@radvel59165 ай бұрын
So much valuable data. Loved it!
@jakubchrobry37015 ай бұрын
The researchers said their studies demonstrates a mechanistic basis. They made no claims about actual health outcomes in humans. Plus, they said risk might begin at protein levels over 22% of calories or 1.55 g/kg. There are not too many people eating this high of protein, especially in the elderly. The 95th percentile of men over 50 is about 21% of calories.
@Klaudiuszeg5 ай бұрын
Tell that to people who listen to Brad Stanfield or follow keto and carnivore diets.
@defeqel65375 ай бұрын
I wonder if other macronutrients affect things as well; we know they affect autophagy at least
@danielbrown0015 ай бұрын
Any evidence-based fitness enthusiast is probably eating over 1.6g/kg of protein due to the most current evidence on muscle hypertrophy. So that’s why people in these comments care a lot.
@jakubchrobry37015 ай бұрын
@@danielbrown001 If you're in your 20s or 30s and a lean healthy bodybuilder, go for it. 2.2 g/kg is likely fine, but you're not likely going to see any significant (noticeable) gains from eating more than 1.6 g/kg due to the diminishing returns of the concave-down curve of muscle gains vs protein. It's best to put your efforts into an optimal training program and recovery (yeah, the hard stuff) rather than focusing on the easy stuff of eating more than 1.6 g/kg of protein. Yes, people should care. Once you get in your 50s, fitness enthusiasts begin to think more about longevity and disease. Then it comes down to: why take the risks when you're not going to get benefit from eating over 1.6 g/kg. It's no longer about ekeing out every additional nanogram of muscle mass. There's plenty of research showing protein has a negative impact on all nine aging pathways, plus negatively influencing disease. You can gamble by believing this is all bunk, but to what end? Concerns about sarcopenia in the elderly? Research shows that the additional protein does not help in the elderly. They need to lift weights. Period. 1.2 g/kg is enough, when half are not even getting 0.8 g/kg.
@jakubchrobry37015 ай бұрын
@@danielbrown001 Yes, people should care. Once you get in your 50s, fitness enthusiasts begin to think more about longevity and disease. Then it comes down to: why take the risks when you're not going to get benefit from eating over 1.6 g/kg. It's no longer about ekeing out every additional nanogram of muscle mass. There's plenty of research showing protein has a negative impact on all nine aging pathways, plus negatively influencing disease. You can gamble by believing this is all bunk, but to what end? Concerns about sarcopenia in the elderly? Research shows that the additional protein does not help in the elderly. They need to lift weights. Period. 1.2 g/kg is enough, when half are not even getting 0.8 g/kg.
@Nothingmuch10395 ай бұрын
I thought I was going to die the first time I drank a Boost shake...
@francisproulx96695 ай бұрын
Depend of what *boost* we are talking about 💉💉
@liamturner-beauchamp15705 ай бұрын
@@francisproulx9669the booster juice 😅
@Nothingmuch10395 ай бұрын
The little old people drink from the grocery store.
@francisproulx96695 ай бұрын
@@Nothingmuch1039 yeah I know it was just a silly joke on my part
@francisproulx96695 ай бұрын
@@liamturner-beauchamp1570 😂😂
@Sjs90005 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! I felt like I was in cell biology class again.
@carlag1475 ай бұрын
Love the citing of the research!
@gifridge5 ай бұрын
So glad you talked about this study, as I knew the internet was going to crazy over it.
@pelonete50005 ай бұрын
You only forgot at the end to say ,"limit your intake of processed foods".
@jarlwhiterun74784 ай бұрын
Greek yogurt, beans, tuna, peanut butter, tofu, cereals are all processed. You gonna avoid all those foods?
@davorzdralo80003 ай бұрын
Literally everything you eat besides raw fruit and some rare veggies that are also eaten raw, I'd processed.
@rgh6225 ай бұрын
Ok, hear me out. Lane said, "Hit the like button and leave a comment for the algorithm." After that I didn't understand a word he said.......my brain exploded...
@DDHS_Podcast5 ай бұрын
Hi Dr. Norton, really well explained and also the biochemical/ molecular biology aspect. Could not do it better! I wanted to read the study for myself, unfortunately I do not have access through my institutitons. I would have loved to see some proteomics data on this as well. Since the mTOR pathway seems to upregulated, it would have been amazing to see the transcriptomic and proteomic response to it. Maybe the pathways involved would not have lead to the notion, that high protein diet leads to heart disease. Thanks again for your effort on debunking the current news articles so we all can have an extra protein shake now for our muscle gain 🙂
@_MrTV5 ай бұрын
Always good info and content plus commentary for AL
@lonestarpatriot8765 ай бұрын
So in a nutshell, we are not like genetically modified mice! Got it. Good to know.😂
@NoLegalPlunder5 ай бұрын
Time to become a breatharian.
@nikoladjordjevic-kisacanin27775 ай бұрын
Love the video and the channel! I wonder if there are any graphics and animations you can show while you’re explaining some things. It can be hard to understand what exactly is going on.
@carperdiem87545 ай бұрын
I hate your videos because you are more buff than me.. keep up the good work
@ozzybeloiu4665 ай бұрын
Kinda Richard Simmons bro😂
@bogrunberger5 ай бұрын
I think all health studies should come with a Biolayne video attached.
@SexyMFPoker5 ай бұрын
I need to take the prerequisites before watching the rest of this video
@Billybear1855 ай бұрын
You should really consider writing a book that connects philosophical logic and human health! I'd buy it!
@NetanelLiftzshitz5 ай бұрын
love your face dude. 😂 great video, loving the stupidity on the internet being ripped apart to shreds
@klocugh125 ай бұрын
Nuance is the enemy of clickbait.
@helencantimagine5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Layne, for your dedication to health. I've been a subscriber for less than a week. I found you through your interview with Doctor Mike. Watching your videos makes me feel like I'm learning a new language. I also feel like one of the Charlie Brown characters listening to the adults as they talk-womp...womp. I keep listening because I know I'll catch on to all the science. I appreciate you.
@king-yq5xj5 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarification.
@mikewalkow18605 ай бұрын
So glad you covered this idiocy!
@alexanderabrashev13665 ай бұрын
Monocyte is not a type of macrophage, a macrophage is a monocyte that resides in the tissues.
@TheSfajacks5 ай бұрын
FTA! “Stared at the food pyramid for 6 years” 😂
@D.Fay_Coe5 ай бұрын
with this video, Layne Norton, today, wins the internet.
@deborahthompson8495 ай бұрын
You're this 71 yr old man's go to Doctor for well researched truth. I haven't had Doctor come to my home since U was 6 years old in NYC. Thank You Doc!!!!!!
@efo19wire5 ай бұрын
lmao thanks biochem degree for carrying me through the mtor activation process 😂. i study bacterial kinases in my grad program rn and it’s nice that my signaling cascades are so damn short haha
@JOHNNY34A5 ай бұрын
I knew you would do a video on this. You explained it best
@johannesvenezian6425 ай бұрын
I am sorry, but the caveat regarding the mice strain being ApoE knockout is wrong. They compared the plaque levels between different diets in the same strain, so the results are very much valid. Also, the following point you raise also makes no sense, given that at the diets they provided with lower ratio of protein, the rest of the calories came from either carbs or fats, but they didn't measure an increase in plaque formation (it was over the course of 8 weeks, so not immediate response only in mice). In Fig. 8b,c you can clearly see correlation between increased leu intake and higher plaque build-up and lesions. It is important though that indeed given the knockout, it is very much possible that in the WT the ApoE mechanism can get over also the higher amounts of protein, meaning you won't see the deleterious effects.
@Melesniannon5 ай бұрын
Anyone else immediately glanced at the clock when he said "Get enough sleep"?
@BertoniCostales5 ай бұрын
Taking into account the study and your comment that a high-protein diet could potentially decrease body weight, perhaps an approach focusing on sources low in the amino acid Leucine could be a correct approach to decreasing cardiovascular risk, low in saturated fats, and low in sugar.
@RandomHuTaoSimp5 ай бұрын
You don't need to lower saturated fats. A meta analysis of all the data on the highest level of data on this compound was conducted and they wrote a paper that their was NO correlation between saturated fat and negative health effects. Literally no data in the literature proves saturated as being harmful as a standalone compound, and NO it does not cause diabetes. All it does is make you sugar intolerant which is a protective mechanism in adaption to low carb diet. So don't fear saturated fats in any amount, mainly if you're low carb.
@Judgement2205 ай бұрын
Awesome video my friend. You know your stuff.
@mikekdawgman15 ай бұрын
This does make sense as I have started resistance training to build muscle and increasing my protein intake about 150-200 grams per day and over the course of a month or two of consistency, I feel like I’m having a heart attack post workout (very hard to breathe and relax like I’m having a heart attack).
@mikewalkow18605 ай бұрын
Obviously it the protein LOL
@NofirstnameNolastname5 ай бұрын
Wow never seen a video appear yet from Layne when it had 0 views. #likecommentforthealgorithm before I even watched. Did hear about this study though, was waiting for this vid thanks as always for staying on top of this ! :) Looks like I'm actually the first real human to comment because Chasidy qs8xb and tammykacyee with underwear profile pics(not that I'm complaining) and generic comments seem sus ;P
@brandonotoole43745 ай бұрын
For my nutrition degree we stared at myplate for 4 years, not the food pyramid. Showing your age Layne.
@karynstouffer35625 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, it also depends on the university, and the teaching program, plus the professor's preference.
@BigBrownTruck225 ай бұрын
That "no alcohol" recommendation is kind of difficult
@user-jl9pt3do3m5 ай бұрын
Me eat protein. Me grow.
@factbots5 ай бұрын
just one for the algorithm 🤣 Man I even understand chemistry when Layne explains it, fancy words simplified for the masses 💪
@cookinthekitchen5 ай бұрын
I have to find your videos debunking some of Thomas DeLauers statements, he certainly throws a lot of science out there that may or may not be accurate
@Santa-ny1yp5 ай бұрын
Thomas focuses on mechanisms, Layne focuses on the end product.
@pieman87055 ай бұрын
Are you going to post a reply to Norwitz latest video about your video on the oreo research?
@erich73015 ай бұрын
Carbon...Go use it. Game changing for me. I love it. I'll be a lifetime subscriber to it.
@arnoldlarisch77175 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@jacobdebernardi43855 ай бұрын
This vid is the first time I heard about the ApoE knockout caveat. Holy moly
@heathergant08195 ай бұрын
Ty for this one!!
@senditcody31305 ай бұрын
ok so the mrna is translated in a ribozone where it latches to mrna and protein and is the assimulation of emis4f then acts as a scaffold to attach to the mrna. THen releases into ef4e then into ef4if, then to mtor. Ok got it. Wait... I lost it. lol
@Pazuzu-5 ай бұрын
Doing a lot of high intensity can also cause heart disease.
@kiwimaccomboattack97655 ай бұрын
I heard lettuce is good to use as an ice pack? Do you use lettuce instead of an ice pack?
@kiwimaccomboattack97655 ай бұрын
Oh, you deleted your response Layne, I wonder why?
@McN4styFilth5 ай бұрын
No.
@Dylaniated5 ай бұрын
I like the part where you have to confirm that people need to eat 😆
@billleach79155 ай бұрын
Truth!
@marcdaniels90795 ай бұрын
Outcome > mechanism
@Anusdeur5 ай бұрын
Thank you for digging into this and explaining it here🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@NofirstnameNolastname5 ай бұрын
Just for the people who don't speak dutch I will translate this user's name. It says "Anus door" Don't ask me why though.
@user-ls1zs7lz7l5 ай бұрын
thank you
@vincentninja685 ай бұрын
MTOR has been a misunderstood boogie man for years now. Swig of water is not the same as drowning in it.
@andrewboss20185 ай бұрын
How did we go from the argument of high protein potentially dysregulating mTOR expression to saying this paper assumes we shouldn't eat any protein at all and practice fasting. That is a red herring and not really the point of this paper.
@atharva-naik27 күн бұрын
After seeing the whole thing it makes perfect sense. Also there's nothing special about Oreos but rather the subject. Any carb would've worked with this person to lower LDL. They were genetically prone to have high LDL on a low carb diet and other markers suggest they can still be healthy with it.
@TheHivefl5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one
@StyleshStorm5 ай бұрын
Spike Protein* Amyloid Protein*
@matejmotuz1085 ай бұрын
As a hearth attack , I confirm that I like protein powder
@user-ip9mw8yg9o5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Jompany5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Protein and Heart Disease. I just came with popcorn 😂
@annamokrushina92285 ай бұрын
Please address the “Sailing La Vagabonde” recent “fasting retreat” video. This is insane
@zach812105 ай бұрын
In the mouse arm of the study, what exactly is the purpose of the apoE knockout? Wouldn't this just make it more difficult make applicable to humans?
@DDHS_Podcast5 ай бұрын
Hi, they used this type of mice since it has been shown that these mice can form plaques similar seen in human. Therefore this would help to study the outcomes in the disease context, here cardiovascular diseases. Of course even having such a mice model, it is hard to translate every finding into human trials. Hope that helped. (References: Pendse AA, Arbones-Mainar JM, Johnson LA, Altenburg MK, Maeda N. Apolipoprotein E knock-out and knock-in mice: atherosclerosis, metabolic syndrome, and beyond. J Lipid Res. 2009 Apr;50 Suppl(Suppl):S178-82. doi: 10.1194/jlr.R800070-JLR200. Epub 2008 Dec 5. PMID: 19060252; PMCID: PMC2674752. Lo Sasso G, Schlage WK, Boué S, Veljkovic E, Peitsch MC, Hoeng J. The Apoe(-/-) mouse model: a suitable model to study cardiovascular and respiratory diseases in the context of cigarette smoke exposure and harm reduction. J Transl Med. 2016 May 20;14(1):146. doi: 10.1186/s12967-016-0901-1. PMID: 27207171; PMCID: PMC4875735)
@GigaNormie5 ай бұрын
Still, most bodybuilders are dying from cardiovascular causes. Even those that don't abuse steroids. Why?
@ruthannlewis64715 ай бұрын
Enjoyed ❤
@publicname5155 ай бұрын
Hey with all due respect Dr. Layne Norton, the shirt should read data > beliefs. Your BELIEFS are what shape your reaction to certain foods, not your feelings which are generated by your beliefs
@ThomasAT865 ай бұрын
Third review of this study by people I value and respect, and every time I hear something new. Here for example the nuance with obese people. Fantastic, thanks Layne!
@kestag21105 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Nutrition made simple Dr Gil talked about this yesterday too. 👍
@bobbysmith53205 ай бұрын
Great video! I have protein and drink amino supplements everyday! My arteries are all good. If we can’t eat Carbs, protein or fats, what are going to eat? 🤷🏽♂️
@Gruso575 ай бұрын
I find it really strange they used ApoE knockout mice knowing they have high ldl cholesterol.
@FloydBassett-ys2mu5 ай бұрын
There is a machine that can receive organic materials and it turns them into human body parts like magic! That machine is the human body
@Gr33n0ni5 ай бұрын
For the algorithm, by the way I need to say earliee on in my life I was not focusing on eating enough protein throughout my day. I wasn't even eating 70 G on average but in abundance of extra calories