New 'Sublime Porte' Azap Rush Build is incredibly strong!!!

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9 ай бұрын

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@metehanbodur7328 9 ай бұрын

3:30 the second one is right. AZAP means, torment or pain are situations such as distress and sadness that people feel due to various things that happen to them. It can also mean torture and punishment.

@ZS-rw4qq 3 ай бұрын

Always go for the pronunciation that makes less sense to Anglos

@metehanbodur7328 3 ай бұрын

@@ZS-rw4qq because its not Angleesh

@ZS-rw4qq 3 ай бұрын

@@metehanbodur7328 I would say ingliš but okay

@saviojoshua1311 9 ай бұрын

This was such a cool build, but I wonder why Italy didnt make Pavisiers

@ignasigarces1049 9 ай бұрын

yep against pavisier mass azaps stand no chance

@gabrielojeda1133 9 ай бұрын

Daddy Lion back at it with a cast after hitting 2k elo

@xaviere.7581 9 ай бұрын

🥵🥵 2k

@theexiledking1608 9 ай бұрын

They need to nerf them..... azap (see what i did there?)

@lionheart9015 9 ай бұрын

😂😂

@greatscythe1116 9 ай бұрын

Lack of a proper age 2 counter (except india and dutch) is a problem.

@raptorhacker599 9 ай бұрын

British longbows own them I think.

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

@@raptorhacker599 state militia from usa too. but azaps are still doing well against them because they have range resist and better attack rate and range than most of infantry units. also for a bow unit they have really good initial animation comparing to british longbows.

@Peachrocks5 9 ай бұрын

Actually I think it's the Sublime Porte. Comparing them by villager seconds they come off pretty poorly against Crossbows, Pavisers almost anything that isn't cavalry, although the 4.5 speed and 16 range and great fire animation does them plenty of work and means Muskets can't beat them conventionally but still Crossbows beat them comfortably. However I think the real issue here is Sublime Porte. That nasty wood cost becomes food instead (more or less) which means they are MUCH stronger. You simply flood them with sheer numbers, then your counters don't matter. This wasn't a thing before because Otto had no age 2 unit they could build (i.e not natives) with wood.

@aidangray7087 9 ай бұрын

As far as what civ to play - I would be happy with anything you want EXCEPT the new civs I don't own because you have to buy them separately (US, Mexico, Africa, Mediterranean)

@everythingexpert4795 9 ай бұрын

Always loved the sublime port card. It would allow u to age up with food and get a monstrous amount of wood

@everythingexpert4795 9 ай бұрын

It slows down ur tempo for fast jannisarys or a super fast age up, but it also means no shipping 700 wood, allowing u to send another card or wait for an extra fortrsss age shipment

@jamiemcphillips335 9 ай бұрын

Hey, you sorta do it already with your casts. But, would you be interested in making guides similar to Assuie Drungo? or is that too much work. Thanks for everything you do :)

@lionheart9015 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I have some in pipeline, but the ones I've done don't seem to be that popular :/

@jamiemcphillips335 9 ай бұрын

@@lionheart9015 But, now you can clickbait "certified 2000 elo pro-player endorsed strategy" now :D. I learned a lot from your videos, I copied your Ethopia FF/FI strategies and climbed a lot of elo in 1v1.

@lionheart9015 9 ай бұрын

Haha that is true, I should milk to 2k elo XD glad to hear you learn a lot, thats why I make these vids :P @@jamiemcphillips335

@crypticsavage0456 9 ай бұрын

so funny when someone plays Otto and sits on 25 vills

@email5919 9 ай бұрын

Italians just needed to train Pavisiers instead of musleteers…

@th3dool 9 ай бұрын

finally someone used that card.

@user-ik7xq1pb6s 9 ай бұрын

We want an India game ! I main India and suck at 1100 elo and there hasn't been an India game in 80 years on your channel, give us some mekalungas

@timwhitman3207 9 ай бұрын

I know its random, but i would love to see you play italy for your next climb to 2k! Is that even viable? I dont see many people play italy.

@lionheart9015 9 ай бұрын

Italy very good civ at the moment so defo viable, Italy are really fun civ, I will play them more once the fort spam bug gets patched :)

@molenini 9 ай бұрын

We want this build on livestream

@Peachrocks5 9 ай бұрын

The issue is that they have range resist rather than melee resist like every other ‘Musket’ or anti cavalry unit. This means they match up better against things that are supposed to counter them and in age 2 many civs only have soft heavy infantry counters like crossbows. I should run a test of villager second cost of Azap vs. Crossbow and vs. Skirms. I mean at close range (not melee) Muskets actually beat Skirms per vill second cost but of course have 8 range less which is why they are still a counter. Best counter would probably be Grenadiers or a non cavalry melee unit that aren’t pikes. Really though the unit from my understanding is supposed to be a specialist unit against cavalry so it should probably get negatives vs. anything else. Edit: Upon running the numbers, Crossbows, Pavisers etc. do very well against azaps. Muskets do too if they can get close enough but that's hard and probably ill advised. Obviously the 4.5 speed and fire animation are a thing but you gotta remember, only 8 damage or 16 compared to other things. That's not that high. If you look at what Italy does this game, they invest a lot into economy and don't fight evenly whereas everything Otto invests go into Azaps. Conclusion: IMO Sublime Porte is the culprit here, either that or the wood cost on Azaps. Before (aside natives) Otto had no units they could use the wood for but now they can just overload the opponent with sheer value by gathering only food for everything and using sublime, getting effectively a better age up and all the rest of it. The result is a LOT of value pouring in which means cost efficiency and counters simply don't matter.

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

Afaik heavy cav units like mamelukes or cuirassiers also could counter them populationwise since they have relatively low hitpoints and no meele resistances. Also sudanese dervishes from hausa/ethiopia could work well since their range attack is considered as meele damage in game.

@Peachrocks5 9 ай бұрын

@@jakubmalinowski1474 Doubt it. In melee they've got high multipliers vs. cavalry. Each one hits harder then 1 Mameluke does and that's in age 2. 1 Mameluke costs more then 5 azaps in villager seconds. Sudanese would definitely work. After running the numbers, Muskets and Crossbows comfortably beat Azaps in a straight fight. However there's more going on then that. Crossbows have a pretty crappy animation and of course Azaps have 16 range and 4.5 speed. On top of that, Ottomans early eco especially with Sublime Porte is extremely strong. So even if they lose per equal cost, that's not what's going on here.

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

@@Peachrocks5 oh i forgot mams cost 5 pop not 3. Oh well. But cuirasier could win due to area damage. But still, 8 damage and 1.5 attack rate is insane. They are like equal to russian musketeer with better range and higher speed. They should have been equally weaker than muskets and stronger than pikes and this was just showing not only they are stronger than pikes But than musks too.

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

Also Worth mentioning is a fact azaps gain range for each promotion. In imperial they have 20 range which is basically 66% more than muskets have. I admit, their fully upgraded damage isnt as strong as musks (20x2 vs ~50 depending On country), but they do have 20% range resist and headstart of longer range and really quick initial animation.

@sickjuicysjamshack3580 9 ай бұрын

What about otontins?

@xaviere.7581 9 ай бұрын

Chad Daddy Lion ❤️

@JV-wk9wk 9 ай бұрын

I think you can do a new 2k elo with haude

@MadameRouzgar 9 ай бұрын

You pronounce both of the "a"s in Azap as short "uh"s (or like the "ua" in the word "guard"). Like "uh-zup".

@MadameRouzgar 9 ай бұрын

Fyi, it means "torment" and is of Arabic origin

@coaiemandushman1079 9 ай бұрын

3:30 second one, brother. azap not Eyyyyyzap

@ettubrute_ 9 ай бұрын

Poor Look_Tom he just wanted to make the 3 Tavern cards work. lmao

@cano3391 9 ай бұрын

Bro it spells like "i-zap" but fast

@sedatgorkemyenigun6055 9 ай бұрын

Azap pronounced as you pronounced second time. Short A.

@xaviere.7581 9 ай бұрын

2k Elo ❤️ the white stuff is coming out

@WyattBeeler 9 ай бұрын

can you malta for next civ PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

@Dingleberry69420 9 ай бұрын

Asap shouldn’t be that good, nerf range resist to 10% and melee to 10% like a regular pike, nerf range to 14 and adjust multipliers vs light cav to 2.5 to deal 40 dmg like a pike

@haasva2637 9 ай бұрын

azap not eyzap!

@Actae0n7 9 ай бұрын

Azap is such a broken unit...

@andreashillitzer2291 7 ай бұрын

I tried this rush and lost 300 elo, I did the exact same thing, this does not work!!! Dont try it!

@cryptoricardo 9 ай бұрын

Please don't pick Otto as your next main civ; they are by far the lamest civ!

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

such a busted unit, they should have cutted attack rate to 2.25 instead of 1.5. also their initial animation is so busted for age 2 bow unit... Its like pointless to recruit jans early now, because they are winning resourcewise early and have more LOS + range.

@email5919 9 ай бұрын

With one video how is it possible that you come to nerf conclusion? If italians trained pavisier u would see if Azaps win or not. It is purely italian player’s mistake tbh

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

@@email5919 few reasons: 1. Higher siege damage than musketeer. 2. More equalised resources cost than musketeer (and wood instead of coin). 10 resources per unit cheaper. 3. Higher range. Up to imperial can get if im not mistaken 20 range. 4. Considering they are faster than most of the heavy infantry units, they counter both heavy infantry and cavalry. 5. They are better against cavalry than musketeer in both meele and range attacks (range its 8x3x2=48 per 3 seconds comparing to regular musket having 23, meele its 10x4 vs 13x3). Dont forget they deal damage faster because they have longer range. Its not like im concluding that hypothesis after only this video. Ive seen plenty of ottomans strategies purely using azaps, have seen them wrecking italian fort spam at imperial. They literally losing more drastically after fighting with falconets and heavy Cannons which doesnt change the fact janisarries are all the way worse than azaps early on. The main difference is that you focus more on the wood income instead of coin which can be crucial on arid maps. Don't forget this unit is considered as a pike unit, not as heavy infantry.

@rafaelrmaier 9 ай бұрын

@@email5919 Sublime Porte is what makes the real difference here. Even if Pavisiers would win 1 on 1, the numbers game was in Otto's favor, since wood is very slow to chop

@asifcra7839 9 ай бұрын

The scary thing about azap is they are a xbox type unit which massacres Every type of cavs. Azap works so well with sipahi or mams its insane. Cause azap counters both cav archer & pikes. So, killing Sipahi become a very expensive task. Lastly, azaps are the skrim that can protect artillery from cavs. I literally once win a mach sending 21 azaps in age 4 with 3 Bombardier with mosque card. Anyway, Germany does great countering azaps with their pike and dops. Azaps are bad at melee Against infantry.

@jakubmalinowski1474 9 ай бұрын

@@asifcra7839 azaps are also bad against rods spam from Spain which are fairly popular nowadays combined with falconets. You can also say against japan can work a bit worse since ashigaru have same speed and yumi Archers are shredding them. But still many European civs havent got sufficient counters in Age 2 to azaps if we dont include xbows and/or longbows which are easy targets for huss.