Hi Simon, I'm afraid that the only information that we have for Tesla Electric UK is that it's on track for 2025. It is live in the US at the moment, and compatible with Tesla Powerwall 2. There's some information on the US version of Tesla Electric here: www.tesla.com/support/tesla-electric

Hi Richard, we should still be able to help. Please email tokc@spiritenergy.co.uk if you’d like to discuss further.

Hi Gary, yes please use the content that you need from this video, with the acknowledgment/links back to Spirit. I look forward to seeing your video. -Tok

@@spiritenergy5409 Thank you, Tok 👍

Thanks for the comment. Payback periods depend a lot on how much electricity you will use, as well as the inflation rate of electricity over the 25 year+ lifespan. For the best payback period, take a look at a solar PV system with no battery.

Thanks for the comment, yes - Octopus variable tariffs allow you to do this. Octopus Flux has a peak export rate of 25.1 p/kWh at peak time, between 16:00 and 19:00. It varies by postcode, but that peak export rate should be consistent across the country. See this article: blog.spiritenergy.co.uk/homeowner/octopus-energy-tariffs

The main reason is to cut costs for the consumer. Most households are fine with just 2x MPPTs. The upgrade to three is welcome, but anymore than that would rarely be used. Systems with panel-level optimisation actually do very little to mitigate shade, and the panels already have bypass diodes in which help a great deal. At the end of the day, the shade is still going to be there.

Yes - it can be AC- coupled. It may be worth looking into a Powerwall 2 while they're going cheap if you don't need the in-built Powerwall 3 inverter.

There's a brilliant battery system called Powerwall 3 that I'd love to talk to you about ;) -Tok

That's correct, Tesla changed the UK version to 3 MPPT trackers as that's more than enough for the UK market. In America they have more complex roofs from our understanding.

That configuration would be able to take you off-grid, yes. The Gateway 'islands' the house from the grid. You can go completely off-grid with Powerwall 3, however, it's only 13.5 kWh so realistically you wouldn't be able to power a house for more than a day. One unit wouldn't be enough to take a standard house off-grid all year round, you would probably need 60 kWh of storage with ~ 20 kWp of solar to be able to do that reliably.

@@spiritenergy5409And since there would be no grid connection is the Gateway/Backup Switch really needed? I am looking into Tesla Powershare and 20kw solar. Should be enough for any (short winter) day + Powerwall helping during power surges/clouds/evening. The Cybertruck makes for the rest of the night. During the sunny weekends, the Cybertrucks gets to charge on solar. Never spend money again for electricity+gas+diesel.

@@spiritenergy5409 My plan is 20kw PV that generate enough for day time (even during short cloudy winter days), 1x PW3 that helps during mornings/evenings/occasional power overloads and Cybertruck Powershare for the night. During the sunny weekends the Cybertruck gets to charge on solar! Never again pay for electricity, gas, diesel and fully offgrid.

@@spiritenergy5409An off-grid application will be more feasible when the additional modules are available. That might be a little expensive using only Tesla branded products as you’ll pay a premium for the warranty and overall package.

Hi, I'm afraid that Powerwall 2 and Powerwall 3 are not compatible. You would need to replace the Powerwall 2.

@@spiritenergy5409 Now that is a shame! But maybe there will be some cheap PW2s for sale!

Could you add the PW3 as a separate appliance, not linked together with the old pw2? Or vice versa, PW3 as the main and the old PW2 as an unconnected appliance.

Thanks for the comment, the dimensions are H 1,098.6mm x W 609.6mm x D 193.04mm For more details check out our knowledge bank here - spiritenergy.co.uk/tesla-power-wall-3

The reason that we offer it cheaper with solar is that our installers are already on-site to install the PV system and can help with the Powerwall installation. Therefore the labour can be shared across the whole project and the cost of Powerwall 3 comes down. You also save on the PV solar inverter which brings the overall system cost down by ~£600, depending on the make. It's not technically making the Powerwall 3 cheaper in itself but does contribute to a lower overall price.

Hi Chris, thanks for your comment, as per Tesla’s agreement with PW2 and as discussed on site with the Tesla team for this installation, we put our AC isolator in the Gateway.

£7,750 fully installed.

We don’t do financing offers at the moment, however we do have some partners willing to offer financing on Powerwall 3. Please pop an email through to residential@spiritenergy.co.uk.

Thanks for the comment, at residential scale, some solar-only systems do payback within 5 years with an IRR of over 20%, but that is quite rare, 6-7 years is more common. With battery added on, that payback period does increase to around 8 years. From a purely financial perspective, our clients often make the decision by comparing it to whatever the alternative rate or return is for their money and where they can get the highest NPV. That's discounting any environmental & grid-independency benefits that may come into the decision. A big thing to consider when looking at the payback period for solar and battery is electricity inflation. If electricity inflates at the same rate as it did in 2022 as a result of another Russia-Ukraine type situation, then payback period will suddenly decrease dramatically as each kWh generated by solar is saving much more money. Anyone that installed a system in 2020 will be very glad that they did so. Interestingly, commercial solar has a standard payback period of 3-5 years.

@@spiritenergy5409 yes I’d currently get much more back putting an extra £10k in my pension, tax relief and growth than investing it in solar and a battery. The government should give tax breaks for putting one in. If I could get commercial ROI timeframes, because they can write off against tax, I’d get one,

Hi there. Please could you explain? A 6 year payback, for example, really means 16% or thereabouts return on investment, which beats most other investments hands down

@@mikeforward1983 You are earning what you paid for it in 6 years so ROI yes . But the difference is you can’t get your capital out, and if you ripped it out and sold it, it’s not worth much if anything. Return on investment means point you break even on the sunk capital. Invest money and you keep the capital. Invest say £$15000 over 6 years compound growth at 5% and it’s worth 20,235 with the capital. So your savings in electricity would have to be worth that to be worth a very modest time cost of money. I’ve got money in funds that is making 30% a year. And ROI on all the calculations I’ve done here in the U.K. is around 10 years. I’d have to pay £15000 for a system like that, so again assuming 5% growth in investments, that would be worth over £27,000 which really the electricity savings have to match by then to make it worthwhile.

For a Powerwall 3 by itself, you're looking at the ball park of £7,700.

We design and install solar and battery systems throughout the South of England. This video is not intended to sell anything directly, more to provide information on Powerwall 3.

Do you I my install in the south or would you carry out work in the West mids? ​@@spiritenergy5409

Tesla electric is an electricity tariff run by Tesla in the USA. It is expected to be coming to the UK soon.

@@spiritenergy5409 thanks for the info!

Hi, Thank you for your comment, PAS guidance while not a regulation, suggests to avoid certain areas but as you point out, there are practical limitations to being 1m from all openings. As the window is not a fire escape and given we installed this battery alongside Tesla engineers and the client, we collectively deemed the outside space safer than an internal cupboard where the previous battery was installed by others.

Thank you for your interest. Please pop an email through to residential@spiritenergy.co.uk and we can get back to you with a quotation.

Why is it £7500 without solar but cheaper with solar?

@@rmorrell70 The reason that we offer it cheaper with solar is that our installers are already on-site to install the PV system and can help with the Powerwall installation. Therefore the labour can be shared across the whole project and the cost of Powerwall 3 comes down. You also save on the PV solar inverter which brings the overall system cost down by ~£600, depending on the make. It's not technically making the Powerwall 3 cheaper in itself but does contribute to a lower overall price.

Ah ok.. thanks for the explanation.

@@spiritenergy5409my electric bill is £100 a month. How on earth can anyone save money by installing £15000 of solar and battery. The battery has about 10 years of life

Thanks for the comment, According to Ofgem, the average house uses 2,700 kWh per year. If you get a Powerwall, you would almost certainly go onto an economy 7 style tariff which would bump your usage up to 3,900 kWh, which is an average of ~10-11 kWh per day (disregarding seasonality). Tesla assume that you want to leave 20% capacity in reserve for a power cut, which is one of the reasons why the battery is sized to 13.5 kWh. See the Ofgem data here: www.ofgem.gov.uk/average-gas-and-electricity-usage

@@spiritenergy5409 a lot of assumptions. what isn't is the fact that the powerwall is the same size in every country in the world. The size of the battery is NOT based on anything in the uk .

@@spiritenergy5409Sorry, but I do not understand why changing to “an Economy 7 style tarrif” would result in a 44% increase in electrical energy consumption. Could you explain that one, please?

@@dougal6569 My guess would be so you can buy power at the cheap rate and sell it back at the expensive time making a small profit.

@@dougal6569yeh that’s total Bullshit isn’t it 😂

Hi, we are based in Reading, and do cover a few of the London postcodes. We mainly work within 60 miles of Reading for residential installs.

@spiritenergy5409 Yeah, I'm in East Yorkshire, so you will have to make sure your visa is on order lol

Hi, I’m very sorry if we have missed your email. We aim to provide a top service to everyone, however we are very busy at the moment. Please could you forward your email to tokc@spiritenergy.co.uk and I will take a look. I do apologise if we have let you down.

Hi, thanks for the comment, unfortunately rear-entry wasn't possible for this installation, so we went with side entry for the cabling into Powerwall 3. Tesla were on-site for the installation and it is in line with their guidance.

Thank you for your comment. I do understand where you're coming from and batteries outside do carry a risk, however, we have never had issues with Powerwall 2 and have installed well over a thousand in the 6 years since it was released, the majority going outside. They are fully IP67 rated, and with Powerwall 3, Tesla have laser-welded the bottom 2 feet to make it flood resistant. They advise installing it outside.

Did you watch the video? It’s flood resistant up to 2ft

@@JL-km8vj No I haven't but they said that about Titanic 🧐.

@@martinpowell3855 Really i don't think that this house is going sailing in the Atlantic do you. Electric meters and gas meters are outside and have been for years.

@@larropowell3658 oh dear don't be so serious 🧐