Get the new Nucleus Nano ii Control Handle 👉geni.us/GripII or on Amazon geni.us/tiltaGrip Do you think it's worth the upgrade or are you gonna stick to the focus system you're using now?
@bigalleng843 ай бұрын
its as if tilta spent the entire r&d budget on the new design and new features of this handle and totally forgot about the attachment locations especially for mounting directly to cameras or cages. this seems more designed towards only being used for a shoulder mount handle and definitely not for handheld. Great review as always chad
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I totally agree. It seems as though it was really designed with shoulder rigs and the Ronin gimbals in mind. I don't understand why cause the previous focus grip was awesome and worked perfectly for handheld! Hopefully they come out with some new mounting accessories.
@KongThaoSound15 күн бұрын
Great video. I love the honesty and how you address the issues found in the equipment. Thank you for that.
@chadwin10 сағат бұрын
of course! thanks for watching and hopefully it helps. no product is perfect, so i hope it helps companies improve more.
@jordanchase80592 ай бұрын
There was another version that was released inbetween these two - Tiltaing Advanced Focus Handle. It had multiple mounting accessories on the side (arri rosette, nato rail etc) and was rotatable. Works great with nucleus nano (v1).
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
I have that handle and really like it.nice just ordered a cable which is supposed to allow you to use that handle with the nucleus nano 2 motor. So when I get it, we’ll see. 🤷🏽♂️
@angelhepburn1232 ай бұрын
@@GarCorStudioDid the Cable worked? I purchased the cable and nothing, talked to tilta and they say I have to re program the motor😢😢😢
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
@angelhepburn123 I'm not sure what they meant by reprogramming the motor, but I did have to ensure I was on the latest firmware release for both motor and wheel. When I connected the cable from my advanced side handle to the motor, it just simply worked.. with no real setup.
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
@@angelhepburn123ok….i think i replicated what you may be experiencing…Firstly, it only seems to work on Type C 1… not on the usb type c port 2 of the motor. Secondly, make sure the motor is blinking “pink and red”. It should eventually go to solid pink only, but if it does not, hold the CAL button on the handle and the motor should start spinning. You can manually/physically stop the spinning which will cause it to spin counter clockwise and repeat the physical stopping of it, and you should now have it working.
@SliceOfFilm13 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the info! For mounting the control handle, I put some electrical tape on the pins inside the side nato rail. Together with the Tilta NATO to Rosette Adapter (dual purpose) it's a lot more usable.
@chadwin10 сағат бұрын
That's a good idea! thanks, i'll have to give it a try.
@martin_wood3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the honest review! Hope they get the connectivity figured out. The start/stop is a must!
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
Of course, thanks for watching! Honestly I really wanted to love the new control grip and waited a year for it to come out, but there's still a lot of room for improvement.
@BarefootMediaTV3 ай бұрын
Out with the old, in with the nucleus!
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
😂 perfection
@bradleyc65643 ай бұрын
You have to have the wheel attached to the handle to get the record button on the handle to work. It’s super annoying but I messaged Tilta and they said it’s a highly requested feature so they imagine it will be fixed in a future update
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
ooooh that's good to know! I haven't tried that, but will now. Hopefully they do make a firmware update to add that to just the handle.
@YoIomaster3 ай бұрын
I am still confused about why there is only one Bluetooth focus wheel that has been made (only checked for the Blackmagic pocket camera), by a Chinese company with not as reliable functionality unfortunately. And yet, none of the big players produced such device. technically, as long as your lens has electronic contacts, the build in focus motor can be accessed via camera or, via Bluetooth > camera > lens, saving weight, costs, an external motor and most of all, time! Making a Bluetooth follow focus wheel so valuable and yet no one produces it, what am I missing here?
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
that's a great question! I'm not totally sure why, but what I know is that for a long time most of the camera companies had their firmware totally locked down. It wasn't until recently that they started opening it more up to apps and devices controlling the camera. Blackmagic opened it up first, Sony and other manufacturers are starting to now also. It would be cool to have a focus wheel that controlled the electronic internal focus motor of the lens. But honestly, I think one reason that hasn't happened is cause Auto Focus is so good, why would you use it? I usually only use manual focus on my cinema manual focus lenses.
@YoIomaster3 ай бұрын
@@chadwin Ah, good point. Makes sense that Blackmagic was the first one to receive such devices then, also, I ordered the bluetooth focus wheel off of a Chinese site now and will test it. I am a Video producer and I'm using The pocket 6k, so I am manually pulling focus and so do most other video/film producers. The problem is (Which I had last time on a production too, is that i have to change lenses during production sometimes, so a bluetooth follow focus that doesn't need any gears is pretty much what I need to up the quality of life during production haha. here's the device I ordere, maybe u find it interesting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9Gkf7Ghz5m7e5c.html
@yewkhuan3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, Chad. Question: Would the first gen focus handle work with the Nucleus Nano II motor?
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it doesn’t! Otherwise I would absolutely use the original focus grip with the new nano ii motors.
@edvardlenander68663 ай бұрын
Would the nano II handle work with the first gen nano motor though?
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
@@edvardlenander6866 the hand wheel works with the old nano 1 motors, but I couldn’t sort out how to connect the grip to the old motors-I don’t think it does
@arieljgd3 ай бұрын
I think the product you're looking for is the Tilta Advanced Focus Handle
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the original Nucleus Nano focus grip is very similar to that and it works well for me! The Advanced focus handle came out in 2020, so it’s getting older now and I don’t think it’s compatible with the Nano ii. It also has the problem with the battery on the bottom that there’s no door, just a little quick release tab.
@arieljgd3 ай бұрын
@@chadwin Tilta's official response: All of our Advanced Focus Handles (left or right side) will work with the Nano II motor so long as you purchase the Advanced Side Focus Handle USB-C Control Cable for Nucleus Nano II Motor (30cm).
@GarCorStudio3 ай бұрын
@@arieljgdthat’s interesting because I asked Tilta awhile ago about compatibility of the advanced side handle (which I have) with the Tilta 2 motor and they said they can’t say if or when they will make those handles compatible. But maybe that has changed as I do remember someone sharing about Tilta working on a compatible cable.
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
@@chadwinso I just orderd a special usb c cable from Tilta which they actually stated on their website that their Advanced side handles will work with the nucleus nano 2 motors. Will confirm when I get it to test.
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
Confirmed…I received (purchased) two of Tilta’s custom usb c cable that allows the Advanced side handle to work with the nucleus nano ii motor, and I can happily report that it works perfectly…so I can now used my advanced side handle to control the new motor.
@powerhausstudiosgkfotograp32563 ай бұрын
Tilta lately puts products on the market before actual testing..had real issue with cages for zcam e2 S6, finally gave up after 3 tries and went with small rig
@DroseMr26 күн бұрын
The cap for the side falls off on mine. Not sure if theres a replacement or not. Great video.🎉Thank You
@f-vm2uy7 күн бұрын
Rotate it for 180 degree, it will stay better
@chadwin10 сағат бұрын
you're exactly right. mine falls off too. lol idk where it's at even now. maybe in a case somewhere....
@DroseMr5 сағат бұрын
@@f-vm2uy lost it. Thanks though.
@TDCIYB773 ай бұрын
Didnt Tilta release a firmware upgrade that made some older handle(s) compatible with the Nano II??
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
There may have been an update, but nothing I've seen that make the Nano i Focus grip compatible. If you find it, shoot me a link cause I need that haha!
@TDCIYB773 ай бұрын
@@chadwin Cant post a link here because KZfaq. But i was not quite right: They released a new cable that makes the compability happen: Google "Tilta Advanced Side Focus Handle USB-C Control Cable for Nucleus Nano II Motor" This makes Nano II compatible with the older "Advanced Side Focus Handle". Cheers! Please post a review should you get the cable!
@angelhepburn1232 ай бұрын
@@chadwintalked to tilta about this and they said I need to send them the motor for re programing😮😮😮
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
It works now…I bought the cable and have my advanced side handle control the nucleus motor 2…ok….i think i replicated what some may be experiencing…Firstly, it only seems to work on Type C 1… not on the usb type c port 2 of the motor. Secondly, make sure the motor is blinking “pink and red”. It should eventually go to solid pink only, but if it does not, hold the CAL button on the handle and the motor should start spinning. You can manually/physically stop the spinning which will cause it to spin counter clockwise and repeat the physical stopping of it, and you should now have it working.
@TDCIYB772 ай бұрын
@@GarCorStudio Thanks for the Update mate!
@FireLiteCreationsАй бұрын
Have you figured out how to comfortable mount the new grip onto your handheld camera rig?
@chadwin10 сағат бұрын
....not yet. lemme know if you have any ideas haha
@DroseMr3 ай бұрын
I wish i could use the handle front wheel to zoom my iphone w black magic app but its ony compatible w the main wheel only. I use handle to power the phone and ssd .Legit🎉Tilta is bomb .Thanks
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that would be nice. It's great that they even have the option to use the focus wheel with the BM app! The power handle looks nice, great if you don't need the focus conttol options too. I love Tilta--most their products really impress me!
@DroseMrАй бұрын
@@chadwinyour not nitpicky. They are valid points🫡
@cinestyleinc2 ай бұрын
you're likely not looking at voltage regulations - ie if you are supply too much or too little power you can run into these issues. V-Mounts typically have regulation done internally or label 12v etc. for accessory powering. That is why the Focus Motor was dying. I use the fully size Nucleus off of a Small Rig 99 and never run into power off issues. I don't see any reason to upgrade my Nucleus as it's been rock solid since purchasing.
@r00k834 күн бұрын
Just curious, can this be applied for zoom instead of focus for smooth zooming? Thanks
@chadwin11 сағат бұрын
yes, you can put the motors on zoom, focus or iris and then assign it one of those roles. you can also change whether it's on the wheel or rocker.
@DroseMr8 күн бұрын
How do you set up to control dji gimbal?
@chadwin10 сағат бұрын
Tilta has a full video about how to do this on their channel!
@renatopico998916 күн бұрын
Hi there! Is this grip compatible with nucleus nano motor?
@chadwin16 күн бұрын
@@renatopico9989 the grip doesn’t work with the nano 1 motor, only the focus wheel.
@lorageproductions3 ай бұрын
Does it work with every camera?
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the grip technically works with any camera since it’s just controlling the focus motor on your lens. But if you wanna electronically connect it to the camera for start/stop, there’s a list of supported cams on their website. Only works with the hand wheel right now though
@OttoFilmStudios3 ай бұрын
If only I could afford it lol… Hopefully this would drop the price on the original by a bit 😅 EDIT: Oh wait it’s not as expensive as I though, I just don’t get why the motors cost as much as the grip itself..
@DimitriFarkas3 ай бұрын
Motors are torque monsters.
@OttoFilmStudios3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriFarkas That makes sense. I have a few vintage lenses where the focus ring is really stiff, always wondered how a follow focus would hold up with it.
@XYang2023Ай бұрын
Does the original Nucleus handle work with the new motor? Thank you.
@chadwinАй бұрын
@@XYang2023 it’s not supported no. I wish it were!! Maybe they’ll do a firmware update, but I doubt it
@ggdfggdfgdffgfddg342 ай бұрын
Friend, can you tell me how to attach the Tilta Nucleus Nano ii wheel to the side handle of the camera on the left side?
@chadwin9 сағат бұрын
I don't know of a great way to do that yet. still figuring that out....lol lemme know what you find
@ggdfggdfgdffgfddg349 сағат бұрын
@@chadwin изготовить ручку из дерева прикрепить штифт и прикрепить к нему ручку!
@TDCIYB773 ай бұрын
Also, the lens is moving in your setup when it hits the hard stops and would mess up your shots... Maybe use an additional lens support mate.
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
The lens does move at the hard stops of my lens, I didn't address this in the video, but it's mostly because I'm adapting Canon EF glass to Sony E mount. But yes, a lens support pushing the lens up continuously might help reduce play.
@colsha61442 ай бұрын
Thx man! This helped so much, I was going insane with how to set this up, it just didn’t work. Also a super important thing to know, the advanced side handle does not work with the nucleus nano 2!
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
Hi, it does now.
@colsha61442 ай бұрын
@@GarCorStudio what?? Really! Nooooo I just returned my handle 😱
@GarCorStudio2 ай бұрын
@@colsha6144 😬🫣
@Loqua88817 күн бұрын
You cant control 3 motors with the handle? Iris, zoom, stops?
@chadwin17 күн бұрын
you can control up to 3 motors yes, a FIZ. it's best if you can pair 3 of the new Nano ii motors.
@Loqua88815 күн бұрын
@chadwin But with one cameraman, not having a focus puller assistant. Heard those nano slipping gears and not being strong enough. Hence the new Focus Lite about to be released. Hoping they fixed the issue and can still control with the magicfiz handle not just a single focus lite follow wheel.
@nathanmartin78582 ай бұрын
Can you control two motors with just the handle? I know on the wheel you can run two motors, but was curious if you can do the same thing with just the handle?
@babybrown42892 ай бұрын
Wow… it’s like you’re in my head!!! Any updates on the handheld mounting dituation? I’m about to purchase a NATO female to NATO female to have it on the left side of my A7S3 KondorBlue rig. Do you think I might be risking damaging the six connecting pins? Awesome review. Dubbed and liked. Cheers
@metalmonkey1113Ай бұрын
You can calibrate the motors from the motors themselves. By passing the menu.
@chadwin10 сағат бұрын
good tip, thanks!
@Banananeater3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@chadwin3 ай бұрын
thanks for watching!
@jancarlosguedezgonzalez39352 ай бұрын
amigo,recien me compre el nano2,le di la vuelta al menu y algo no encuentro o no esta,controlar la velocidad del zoom,asi como en el contro del nucleu M.
@felipevece3 ай бұрын
Mine melt down after firmware upgrade i ask a refun to B&H and they geve me back the money
@DimitriFarkas3 ай бұрын
It’s very odd your system has so many bugs. Mine works flawlessly. The only major issue I found is that the handle should have both NATO rails. I manage to mount the handles and the wheel for handheld, but I had to bought an extra handle.