New Tom Ford Shade & Illuminate Soft Radiance Foundation Review

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Eric Thompson

Eric Thompson

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Beauties!!!
Today I am going to be going over the new Tom Ford Shade & Illuminate Soft Radiance Foundation and compare it to the Estee Lauder Futurist Hydra Rescue Moisturizing Foundation.
I hope you all enjoy!
-Mel
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Пікірлер: 264
@skicouture
@skicouture 4 жыл бұрын
Mel: wears Tom Ford foundation grocery shopping me: 😊 GOALS 🙌🏻❤️
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@lucaria6164
@lucaria6164 4 жыл бұрын
It's a price tag competition nowadays with makeup brands and my wallet doesn't have time for that.
@BlingyBea
@BlingyBea 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Sweet Mel, I miss seeing and listening to you, I went for the Estée Lauder, thank you sweetie.🐞❤️🙏🏻💔
@bellaatlantis8888
@bellaatlantis8888 4 жыл бұрын
Mel, thank you so much for taking the time to make comparisons like this. They are so helpful!!!🤓👌🏼
@eimearmorrissey7236
@eimearmorrissey7236 4 жыл бұрын
Your makeup today is soooo gorgeous!! The warm eye and lip with your porcelain skin...perfection!!!
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@stephaniesaslut12616
@stephaniesaslut12616 3 жыл бұрын
@@melthompson2856 what shade did you use?
@deblake-bacon4694
@deblake-bacon4694 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mel! Thanks so much for the review! And especially the comparison! I think I will check both of them out in person. Thanks again for all your hard work! Take Care ❤️
@Jbal8924
@Jbal8924 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mel! Incredibly helpful review and comparison! Will definitely check these out and likely get the Estee Lauder ❤️
@Loralarify
@Loralarify 4 жыл бұрын
Wow- So happy you did that comparison! I will gladly pick up the EL foundation that may suit my skin better anyway! Thank you so much! Love this eye look too!
@bratsj1
@bratsj1 4 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAND - that is why I love your videos so much! Lovely review, I will definitley check out the Estee Lauder one as soon as it arrives in Norway - thanks Mel!
@JojoJojo-qm7no
@JojoJojo-qm7no 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great review Mel. 😘
@makeupjunkie6838
@makeupjunkie6838 4 жыл бұрын
Wow great comparisons! I’ve been loving the Estée Lauder for the past several days.
@Kathrynh246
@Kathrynh246 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Mel!! Beautiful! And great comparison!!!
@isabelibraga6441
@isabelibraga6441 4 жыл бұрын
Omg this wear test made my mind blow, looks like a great foundation.
@gypsybelle637
@gypsybelle637 2 жыл бұрын
Oh , how I appreciate you doing this! I love my Estée Lauder, but just bought the tom ford. You did such a great job comparing them. 🙏🏼💋miss you. !
@loralee3232
@loralee3232 4 жыл бұрын
Your skin looks so flawless! It’s nice to know there’s a possible dupe for this foundation. Thank you for the review & wear test & comparison to EL.
@barbaramanning2571
@barbaramanning2571 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, Mel, I can't thank you enough for this super honest, yet drama-free review. I came thisclose to ordering the Tom Ford foundation and would have already but I can't get anyone from TF to answer my inquiries into the colors, especially the undertones (I need neutral). While waiting for their response, which I feel isn't coming, I found your video. YES the packaging on the TF is stunning, immaculate, but it's not like I'm going to be walking around with it all day displaying the bottle like a game show hostess! Right now I'm using the Chanel Les Beiges Healthy Glow and the Guerlain L'Essentials (I'm of a certain age so these work well for me and my dry aging skin) but I think when it's time to repurchase I'll check out this new EL. Thank you for being someone whose opinion I can always count on and respect. BTW, you look so stunning in this video, as always! xoxo
@megane11222
@megane11222 4 жыл бұрын
*Let's all take a moment to give it up to Mel for looking out for us* 👏🏼👏🏼 10+ *first* ingredients the same? Psh, the ish is *THE SAME* So thank you for saving this mama some coins!!!!😅❤❤❤
@TracyD2
@TracyD2 4 жыл бұрын
I’m never ever wanting to spend $150 on a foundation unless it can make my 52 yo skin look 22. I can get Botox with that money. I am willing to try the parent company foundation especially if it’s more hydration. Thanks Mel.
@MzClementine
@MzClementine 4 жыл бұрын
Tracy hehehe seriously 😐... 150$ I’d rather buy steaks... and mussels ‘mmmmmm.
@verenaw.5952
@verenaw.5952 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how honest you are Mel.👍🏼 Great review!😘
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jenlauren143
@jenlauren143 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could get the Tom Ford because it looks beautiful but I will definitely try the Este Lauder one. You looked so gorgeous Mel! 🥰🥰
@MakeupForMatureSkin
@MakeupForMatureSkin 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! This foundation looks amazing on your skin even at 12 hours!
@GlitzyFritzy
@GlitzyFritzy 4 жыл бұрын
I got a sample of the EL not that long ago and it was just OK for me ... this info is great to know for those who could afford a $150 foundation!! Love you! xoxo
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Love you!!!! Xoxox
@dornita1516
@dornita1516 4 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaaaassssssssss! Stunning! Mel you look awesome. I have birthday money I haven’t spent yet, I think it’s time for a treat. Lol! I’m happy the shade range has extended.
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ And YES!!!! Finally!!!!
@jenniferpillot9003
@jenniferpillot9003 4 жыл бұрын
I so can't wait to get mine and dearest mr.ford thought of so many shades right out the gate love him 🇨🇱💯💋😇🙋👍:)!!!wow Mel your complexion is DIVINE PURE AWESOMENESS .
@Yelrish
@Yelrish 4 жыл бұрын
U are the best Mel!!!
@ricciaci
@ricciaci 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison Mel ♡
@suzannebrock5310
@suzannebrock5310 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and comparison. Thank you!
@lolafox0607
@lolafox0607 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the Estée Lauder Foundation today and I’m super stoked!
@catherinebell122
@catherinebell122 4 жыл бұрын
TF packaging is stunning!
@lindamack7184
@lindamack7184 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I love the Estee Lauder
@MissPeachie
@MissPeachie 4 жыл бұрын
Love your eyebrows! Can’t wait until mine comes in the mail!
@ygujt
@ygujt 4 жыл бұрын
Makeup brands are losing their minds with these prices , everything is dupable these days so why spend so much money?
@prettyacct
@prettyacct 4 жыл бұрын
People want to feel "rich"
@ygujt
@ygujt 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty Accountant facts !!!
@TheFolkyboy
@TheFolkyboy 4 жыл бұрын
Luxury cosmetics has its own clientele.
@andreathesexy1
@andreathesexy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@prettyacct a fool and their money soon shall part! PPL assume ppl having money based on what they buy is foolish! The average American is in debt just trying to keep up with the Jones' (FOMO). Also new money is more prone on spending money on trendy goods and materials that expire for the sake of feeling and looking! Our generation is in trouble! A rich person buys a mercedes..a wealthy person buys a Saab or a Volvo bc its dependable and smart!
@jeanietouchofclassglam4573
@jeanietouchofclassglam4573 4 жыл бұрын
Mel, off of the subject but I looooooove your nude lippie!! I am so so glad I purchased it 💞 You did an amazing job figuring out what works for everyone!
@hiborand3285
@hiborand3285 4 жыл бұрын
Your wear test was the reason I bought Estée Lauder. I also picked up the new Dior concealer and love combining both. The concealer helps eliminate the gray cast I get from the foundation’s SPF on my deep skin tone. Tom Ford has joined Jo Malone in the handing over name and all good things to the “Company.”
@flocali3270
@flocali3270 2 жыл бұрын
Love this Tom Ford/Estée Lauder comparison video!!! I so MISS YOU 😢!!!!!
@dspadi1017
@dspadi1017 2 жыл бұрын
Miss you, Mel. Glad I can visit you here.
@barbr100
@barbr100 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for 5he detailed comparison. I will be purchasing the Estée Lauder.😀
@alisasepe6098
@alisasepe6098 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely foundation thank you for your review
@BethInstaNow
@BethInstaNow 4 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to try the Ester Lauder foundation! Geez Ester Lauder owns the makeup world!
@h.twells9358
@h.twells9358 4 жыл бұрын
Esdee lauder is becoming the Don Corleone of the makeup world! 😂
@andreathesexy1
@andreathesexy1 4 жыл бұрын
Yep...their lift foundation was amazing too.
@LaralittleTV
@LaralittleTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you darling, I love the Estee Hydra rescue foundation, and was curious about the TF - this one, for some time, and you just saved me £115! Thank u 💋 I can safely stop thinking about it!
@brittneyfrederick1513
@brittneyfrederick1513 4 жыл бұрын
Love 💕 vveeee the NEW HAIR COLOR MEL !!!
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!
@candalinathomas6392
@candalinathomas6392 4 жыл бұрын
Girl u look fabulous ur skin is fire with nothing on
@taneasheils6597
@taneasheils6597 4 жыл бұрын
😲🤭😁😊 Hi Mel, thank you for the video.... I am really thinking to buy the Tom Ford one...
@kimcurnutt5104
@kimcurnutt5104 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, the Estee Lauder just came and I LOVE IT!!!! WOW! I am 46, almost 47 and have some fine lines. Not bad. This is amazing. The Fresco C23 is a tad lighter than Double Wear-perfect for me. Highly recommend for dry skin. Thank you SO much for this review. Found my Holy Grail!!!
@brittanymyers7552
@brittanymyers7552 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like they just did this with the emotionproof concealer I love Tom ford but I'm glad I have the Estee Lauder now I'm not tempted by the Tom ford.
@TaheerahA
@TaheerahA 4 жыл бұрын
That Tom Ford packaging though 😍😍😍 I have a gift voucher that will cover the majority of the cost so I might just splurge on it! And then when it's finished refill the bottle with something more reasonably priced 😂
@caleydopr
@caleydopr 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a sucker for packaging and I love TF so I will get it. Thanks for your review!
@themerz6982
@themerz6982 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I just have to say, that TF bottle is so beautiful.
@ezra64
@ezra64 4 жыл бұрын
Love your nails !! 💎💎
@LindaPatch1
@LindaPatch1 4 жыл бұрын
Long time ELDW devotee, and this new product I may like even better. It's a really, really good foundation. Agree with everything you say.
@mirellewalker5212
@mirellewalker5212 4 жыл бұрын
So helpful! Thank you 🙏
@gia6743
@gia6743 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mel, I would pick up the Estee Lauder it sounds the same as the Tom Ford; if not better at a lot less money. So tired of paying Top Dollar for a package and a name only! So glad you aren't an infomercial youtuber like a few high end beauty youtuber's are but will remain nameless. Thanks for the comparison it really helps. 💛
@valerievalois6263
@valerievalois6263 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Miss Mel, thank you so much for your honesty. You have just saved me a lot of money. I feel like this is the Tom Ford concealer drama all over again. He is not learning from his mistakes.
@CH-vm6cq
@CH-vm6cq 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think he is involved with the brand at all
@cynthiaalvarado3287
@cynthiaalvarado3287 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mel Tom Ford was really expensive but it wore beautifully I would wear the other one thank you for showing us these beautiful foundations I hope you have a wonderful day girl love you so much love and your makeup today
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, beauty!!! ❤️❤️❤️
@audreyso1201
@audreyso1201 4 жыл бұрын
love your makeup, j'adore
@gen7936
@gen7936 4 жыл бұрын
Right now I need something a little more hydrating. Everything I have is matte. I will definitely purchase the Estée Lauder for now and if I like it I will purchase Tom Ford for the summer. Great review!
@teri3965
@teri3965 4 жыл бұрын
Girl, your eyes look gorgeous.
@jpaulswan
@jpaulswan 4 жыл бұрын
Feels like a lotta cash for a fancy bottle! Cant' wait to try the EL!
@jgkicks4864
@jgkicks4864 4 жыл бұрын
For $150, all the gold on that bottle better be real 🤣. I just ordered the EL foundation for in store pickup today. Can’t wait to try it!
@laurenklatman6918
@laurenklatman6918 4 жыл бұрын
You have stunning skin!! Absolutely beautiful ♥️♥️ what are your options on these foundations for mature skin? Thanks ❤️
@darialakshmi4627
@darialakshmi4627 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you)
@emiliebova
@emiliebova Жыл бұрын
Miss you Mel!
@pauletterichards4755
@pauletterichards4755 4 жыл бұрын
Your makeup always looks so good ! But there is no way I would pay that much for a foundation when there are so many great foundations on the market
@bethemermaid1655
@bethemermaid1655 4 жыл бұрын
Oooo I see those earrings Ravenstone Jewelry 🖤🖤🖤🖤
@marydunn8770
@marydunn8770 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much for this. The Estee Lauder is high end enough for me price wise so I would never have considered the Tom Ford anyway but it's so interesting to know. Do you think the Estee Lauder and and IT Cosmetics Illuminating CC cream are similar or is it just the packaging that's giving me that vibe? Thanks x
@annatorboli6263
@annatorboli6263 4 жыл бұрын
Great to know.. Thank's❤️
@lgempet2869
@lgempet2869 4 жыл бұрын
On a discount (which most of us are able to get periodically) , I could get a gorgeous La Prairie foundation w/amazing skin care ingredients for approximately the same price as this Tom Ford foundation- always have to balance the quality vs the cost.💡 Thanks for these comparisons Mel!
@ThisIsBlackBeauty
@ThisIsBlackBeauty 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao $150 he’s playing games
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Lol!!!
@michaelamonroe7943
@michaelamonroe7943 4 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@avablue6062
@avablue6062 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! They’re just testing us to see how much we will actually pay. Do not fall for the trap! Do not buy this Tom Ford foundation and it will keep prices down!
@gillianwills9049
@gillianwills9049 4 жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to know how much it REALLY costs and what % of the RRP is gross profit...
@ThisIsBlackBeauty
@ThisIsBlackBeauty 4 жыл бұрын
Gillian Wills exactly. I was thinking the same thing.... But I ended up buying it 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️
@laurenfalzone3739
@laurenfalzone3739 4 жыл бұрын
So excited you love the Estée Lauder Foundation! I just picked it up 💕 can’t wait to try it out!
@kijo215
@kijo215 4 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing better than starting the day with a video from Mel 🖤🖤🖤🖤. But, that Tom Ford price is a tad too high for me. Will be trying out the Estée Lauder Futurist foundation though. Thanks Mel!!
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
@Starnote16
@Starnote16 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this!!! Can’t wait to try them!!! I heard that Estée Lauder owns tom ford or something like that. The smart thing would be to buy the futurist but I’m a sucker for Tom Ford packaging.
@Starnote16
@Starnote16 4 жыл бұрын
totheshore99 makes sense that they may have similar formulas.
@Gothqueen29
@Gothqueen29 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this video your videos are amazing and I love you soooooooooooo much
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! 💋💋💋💋 Love you!!
@fificat1129
@fificat1129 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mel! Love your reviews. They make my day. Just curious, why don't you ever review Trish Mcevoy ? Would love to see your take on her stuff. Thanks, beauty.
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
I have ❤️ I used to take samples home all the time when I worked at Nordstrom. I liked some but nothing stayed on my face at work (i would have to try again now) but i also had a hard time with the shades 😩
@michelleisabel
@michelleisabel 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I always comment before watching the video but you are STUNNING today and I love the dark hair. I think it’s way prettier - it complements your complexion beautifully. Ok now onto the video. 🤗😂
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
@candalinathomas6392
@candalinathomas6392 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed love your video's I'm going back to watch more now ur face is flawless
@thebeautyschooldropin
@thebeautyschooldropin 4 жыл бұрын
Bye bye Tom, Hello Estee!! This time at least! Thank youuuuuuuu! Amazing review and research!
@NK-yw5nl
@NK-yw5nl 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review. Does either foundation have a fragrance?
@HeatherE303
@HeatherE303 4 жыл бұрын
OOOOOooohhhhhhhh..... LOVE your eyes today!
@heatherj4351
@heatherj4351 4 жыл бұрын
Does the EL foundation leen more medium coverage or full? Being in my mid 40's full coverage tends to be a bit much for me.
@missyterry9930
@missyterry9930 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I love and I do mean LOVE that TF packaging, there’s no way. The most I have ever spent on a foundation is a $60 YSL one and that was a splurge even with 20% off lol
@aliciabrodie3494
@aliciabrodie3494 4 жыл бұрын
That bottle, though!!!
@Mary-ku8zf
@Mary-ku8zf 4 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that product is same but the price is for the name😳no way. Consumers are so much smarter today I hope then to fall for that, but thank you for bringing awareness as to who owns the product and the comparisons. ❤️
@buffbuff5016
@buffbuff5016 4 жыл бұрын
$150 for foundation??? What?? (Even more in Canadian $) I would buy EL hands down over TF. Thanks Mel...again you look beautiful and give us the info we need!! 🥰❤️
@paolaf3637
@paolaf3637 4 жыл бұрын
You had me at magnetic top!
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Lol!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@JenMakeupDollxo
@JenMakeupDollxo 4 жыл бұрын
Does it feel like the Tom Ford soleil foundation? Love your smokey eye look 😍😍😍
@karlyeuceda4890
@karlyeuceda4890 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mel! What shade did you pick up for the hourglass concealer ?
@mariawi1357
@mariawi1357 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Ford's foundation is the only once that have worked for my skin, both how they look on the skin and colour (fawn). Will be interesting to try EL. When I have been hunting foundation EL has always been to drying or not cover enough or not yellow enough. Does it exists in a cool yellow version for fair skin?
@donnatrocks
@donnatrocks 4 жыл бұрын
I just got the bite foundation and the EL foundations and have enjoyed them both so far. I would love to try TF but for 150? thank you for the information.
@candalinathomas6392
@candalinathomas6392 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized the shesheido is probably what is breaking me out the spf I feel like a dummy ty for the info even though I love that foundation
@NorWeFLA
@NorWeFLA 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Momma! I LOVE YOU. And miss you, so much. I am so grateful we found each other during the KVD days.
@lisahilton9616
@lisahilton9616 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison-they both look beautiful. Did you say they have alcohol in it? thanks!
@wakeupordie
@wakeupordie 4 жыл бұрын
Mel, I see fragrance listed in the EL foundation. Is it noticeable? I usually can't tolerate products that contain fragrance. I'm hoping that its just a masking fragrance and that EL added it to help the product smell neutral.
@PhyliciaATL
@PhyliciaATL 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@marycookmoore3956
@marycookmoore3956 4 жыл бұрын
Love your look and it is through back to holy grail Mac shadows unless you also wearing secret eye shadows... not sure I saw you shadow on the last video 😀. I been waiting for your review because we hav similar skin texture and tone. The packing is so luxurious unlike ester lauder but."........Idk.
@TaraLynnbeauty
@TaraLynnbeauty 4 жыл бұрын
Girl, you read my mind. I NEED to know the deets on this pricey beeech😘🤣 Thanks for the comparison, YOU ROCK💋💋
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
❤️🥰😍😘
@andreathesexy1
@andreathesexy1 4 жыл бұрын
I am a dumbass for Tom Ford...but he breaks my heart repeatedly by disc lippies and eye quads i loved! Jerk off right? Got damn this foundation is gorgeous tho☑☑☑...get a sample bc Tawny worked for me but doesn't in the Traceless version. I am between 6.5...7.0/7.2 and 7.7 in all 3 foundations I own of his😐
@TaraLynnbeauty
@TaraLynnbeauty 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreathesexy1 I actually just reviewed his new foundation and I like it, but I LOVE the stick foundation. It's my holy grail. 🙌😘 I wear 7.5 Shell beige in the stick foundation and I bought the same shade in the shade & illuminate and it's the exact same shade for me as well. I've heard some say they are not the same shade, but for me, it was.. I am sad he discontinued the quads before I actually started getting into Tom Ford. Dang it. Why Tom Why?🤬🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤣
@andreathesexy1
@andreathesexy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@TaraLynnbeauty lucky you. I am 3 different shades in 3 foundations lol
@andreathesexy1
@andreathesexy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@TaraLynnbeauty i wonder if it just med golden/olive shades he cant keep right??!! 😂😂 lol
@jenniferrinaldi8808
@jenniferrinaldi8808 4 жыл бұрын
$150? It better do to my laundry and walk my dog too lol!
@tammyvaught2210
@tammyvaught2210 4 жыл бұрын
I think you’re paying for the packaging and the name. If I had an unlimited makeup budget I’d probably try it but unless I get one heck of a raise there’s no way I’m getting this. However, I’m definitely going to try the Estée Lauder when I get to needing a new foundation. Thank you for letting everybody know these two foundations are pretty much the same. It helps so so much!!
@claudiatorres9936
@claudiatorres9936 4 жыл бұрын
The only way I've tried Tom Ford is through a grab bag I've bought from Estee Lauder because the company I worked for is a vendor of EL. And the bags had products from all their brands and lots of perfumes. I have received many things from TF but nothing has really wowed me.
@nisreinshehadeh3418
@nisreinshehadeh3418 4 жыл бұрын
Hey beauty 🥰 mel i want know ur opinion on blendifull do u like it or recommend it ? I trust ur opinion as always
@melthompson2856
@melthompson2856 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, beauty!!! I just posted a review on my community page ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@EmilyRad
@EmilyRad 4 жыл бұрын
this eye look is everythin g. can you do a tut?
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