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You are right about the disadvantages of CO2. Rapid firing or doing a lot of shots, even in a hot Miami spring day, will result in loss of power. But overall, those are both worthy sub-20 Joule options for Less Lethal defense. Thanks for sharing this new one with us.

Thank you so much for another outstanding video. I have the 11 joule HDR50, and it is very powerful, I made the mistake of shooting it in the house without proper backdrop, and I missed the target and the Aluminum ball went through the wall, with that said, the only thing I like about the Torpedo Revolver is the longer magazine to use longer type ammo. Thank you for bringing such excitement to the arr-gun world! Take care now my friend!

Now that was a cool package! 15j makes it more interesting now. Another great less lethal option for defense, and another excellent video my friend. 👍

Just the last 2 weeks I was thinking that I miss some of this less lethal content. Nice delivery! :)

Great video as always, i really like the torpedo ammo… Looking forward to the next video 😊

Grazie e complimenti per il nuovo test/video! Sei sempre on the spot!!

I was waiting for this to come out. Thx for the episode

I always look forward to my weekend mornings with your videos. I have the Umarex 7.5 and 11 joule versions, but Im DEFINITELY getting the Mercury Rise 15 joule model. Thats some decent power for a less lethal option and Im pretty sure theres nothing else out there that powerful. Another well done video my friend...your the best!

Desperately wishing there was a spring powered version of something like this. Would be slower in terms of follow-up shots, but would solve the freezing problem

Nice work as always 👍😀

Umarex if you're listening or in this case reading, we would like to see a new version of a revolver with a deep magazine such as the Mercury rise for us umarex HDR 50 fans. But if size does really matter, I take out my HDs 68 lol! I really do get a kick out of you playing yourself in your intros, hahaha, even better the accents! Well I finally made it down here brother, nice place in Jensen Beach, and loving it! One sad thing is my van does not fit in my carport, too tall. So, you know what I did, lol, it is now a 20-foot enclosed shooting range! Taking cues from the master in Miami!

another great video as always. love watching. have a MR 50 that I like and 3 BYRNAs . thinking about getting one of these also.

Great video, Gian! Happy to see you go back to the type of gun that drew me to the AAlley in the first place. Both guns performed similarly, but your explanation as to why this happened was very interesting. I think what the TR50 does better than the Umarex HDR is that larger magazine; gives you more options. Really liked your speedy unboxing! 😂

Nice work

Mercury Rise is Definitely on to something. Their Design gives so many Options....and those Darts are Impressive. Wonder what those Darts would do to a coconut ??? If They came out with a 25J version in .68 Cal....it would be a Game Changer. Good Stuff !

Thank you for the video! Was there any significant difference earlier in the day in terms of power between old/new launchers? I wonder how this new one compares with the new 13 joule TR50?

Oh man. I'm quite interested in those little .50 darts. They do seem to foster accuracy more than round ball. Glad you tested these gadgets.

Great review I have the umerx 50 I can hit my mailbox from my front porch 4 out of six times I’m impressed with it thanks

impressive, bro

Enlargening?? 🤣 Just messin with ya. Great vid, as always.

Love the gnome skit!

What I like about this one, is the quite long/thick cylinder. Many jist get short ones to only fit round ammo, which kinda is a damn shame..

Great video! I always enjoy them. I'm torn on which one I want to get. The Mercury or an Umarex?? I like the deeper magazine on the Mercury.

Nice! I missed the part with the "gasket" what are they for?

Nice comparison video. No deference in power between the 2 guns. Cododo projectiles are from the best projectiles in the market. I remember before over a year i bought from Cododo devastator and some of them was big for the mag but was very good ammo👍🏻🇨🇾

There's just something very funny to me about the dummy getting shot by the "pepper" balls and just looking completely unphased and unimpressed. lmao Cool little gun, good review and testing. I would've liked to see a break in the video between each of the guns' ballistic gel tests though. Like shoot the 6 from the OG, then say "okay let's try the 15 joule model now" rather than just put them all back to back. The results were similar enough I thought you were just blasting with the same gun 12 times lol

I would like to also see Umarex HDR50 Make same magazines type of Gun. I like this wider magazine

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i just contacted them about the shafts , to make em more re-usable , if superglue would hurt them . why not superglue the gaskets to the darts , that way can re-use LOL !!! ..... great show as always my awesome brother , like RUNE REBEL , you are also becoming a meistro in the less lethal world !!! lol . i have been with ya from the beginning my friend !!!!

Well, thanks you did it again, I have the first addition and now I will have the new one JUST BECAUSE OF YOU! your killing me Bro

Il terzo colpo di quelli caricati a polvere, fosse stato peperoncino su un bersaglio biologico umano od animale, lo avrebbe steso malissimo. Le pepper ball calibro 50 comuni sono purtroppo inefficaci il più delle volte: la polvere è poca ed infatti per la hdr hanno fatto il lanciatore sottocanna con dentro la classica bomboletta, molto più funzionale. Ma i silurotti qui son belli pieni, la dispersione su quel colpo è stata veramente eccellente!! Ottimo video come sempre!!

wow my brother the measure board under the gel block has never been done before ,that i know , being the modder and awesome inventor i am makes me kindda of jealous ,lol , pure genius my ol friend !!! WOW !!! ...... also another important question , do you saturate the marker with pure 100% silicone oil before shooting . before my testing , i will put in a few drops in before i slip the 12 gram canister in that way i know its well lubricated , have you ever noticed the second shot being more powerful than the first , this happens because of the lubrication, the ammo goes through easier when lubed !!! . FYI , this is not advisable to do in real firearms though , the excess oil or grease in barrel can become an obstruction , and at the very least catch fire and detonate , just like higher powered air guns but worst !!! in all my years/decades of testing , i never thought one drop of oil on top of co2 powerlet was enough ! i do this for long term storage also , that way mt LTL marker is well lubed and ready for ACTION !!! LOL what another great show my most awesome brother !!! LOVEYAMAN !!!!

new generation HDR can we do all same thing whan the first edition?

excellent video and testing, the torpedo powder are impressive that would definitely stop someone with a face full of that if it was the pepper 🌶 ones 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇲😎👍

Nice test and comparison as always. I have the 1st torpedo hdr but have serious co2 leak issues that they cannot fix. Have you had any issues like that?

The cartridge launchers serve more as a protection when you are out and about and you need a quick getaway. The PCP launchers would serve far better as a home defense tool.

I think the LTL bravo needs a new test mine has this thing with CO2 some don't fit right go through a whole box and screw it all the way if the last but if screwing is spongy it's not a good one if the last turn is crisp it seals perfect at least test it out let my know if its nit just me but i think thats why yours had that hicupp

please we need a video about how to coock the balistic gel! :) Great Job as usual sir!!!!

Hello, I just have a question is hdr 50 effective for home intruders

Mercury Rise is sold out of the 15 joule version. They expect stock ready to ship in July. Anyone have other vendors?

Alright mate 👍 great vid back to your roots sucks that I can't get that pistol over here have looked this country is such a fun sponge when it comes to stuff like that can't have automatic can't have pepper balls . 😂 don't have to worry to much about this gasses expending here to make it more powerfull lucky if it gets to 15 degrees . As always keep up the great work mate 👍 look forward to the next vid

After seeing the gel test, the chrony test did exactly as I expected. There was no appreciable difference in both tests.

How compared to Byrna LE ?

😎а я думал с дротиками будет полностью отстрел... мало, может ещё будет? В тыкву не стреляли, кокос тоже остался не застрелен, даже фанерку и то не дротиками дырявили 🧐

I think that 15 joules is just there new packaging box on the new batches, it's between 11 and 17joules ob original depending on amo temperatures, sometimes the hdr 50 revolver is faster then torpedo revolver and sometimes the same, they both you can call 15 joules average i guess!

👍😉🇳🇱 have a great weekend

I think the Tr 50 is better than the HDR 50 with it's longer magazine and safety feature however I know the HDR 50 can be pimped up to over 20 joules with that being said I no longer prefer Co2 for less lethal home defence I converted my Tiberius T8.1 to Hpa thanks for sharing 👍

You know. You keep pointing them gus our way you'll shoot one of our eyes out. Lol. Great gun. But. How is it vierses that gun compared to the burna ungun

I need to get like 20 of them for around my property to keep the coyotes off the property

Io comunque, vivessi negli usa, col piffero che rischierei di far incazzare un aggressore con questi semigiocattoli: senza andare sulle armi da fuoco, opterei per qualche pcp che ho già visto nel tuo canale. Saluti dalla Grecia

One way to weigh really light items on a scale close to it's ability and for additional data. Weigh something like 10, easy math with 10. Haha That way it gets the scale into a better accuracy range and the idea of the "standard deviation" 😂

The Mercury Rise is a pepper Ball launcher. The large 'torpedoes" pepper balls are its best use. Kinetic balls .. not. Thanks for covering the wide gambit of gas powered devices.

Have you ever thought of trying to get and try out a reproduction Girardoni air rifle?

I prefer more lethal rather than less lethal when it comes to home defense, but I understand that not everyone has that option for one reason or another. A disclaimer does need to be made that even though it may be legal to own these, it may not be legal to use the more lethal projectiles, as such, it is likely going to be cheaper to ask a lawyer ahead of time than hire a lawyer should the police/DA decide that even though it was legal for you to own these guns, it is not legal for you to fire some of these projectiles at a human, even if it's a criminal breaking into your home. There is another challenge with these guns for self-defense - they look like toys. This means that a criminal is more likely to call your bluff and force you to shoot him, which also means that checking with a lawyer ahead of time is VERY important. Hmm, you know what - if you can afford to, do an interview with a criminal defense lawyer or a gun rights one and see what sort of input they provide - that would make a good video. If you can't afford it, then reach out to the various KZfaq lawyers and see if one of them would be interested in doing a compilation video with you - I will recommend Tom Grieve as he focuses on gun rights and might find this interesting enough to say yes. Pepper balls - should test those on ballistic gel with some cloth over it as humans aren't as hard as a plastic manakin, meaning they might simply bounce off rather than burst. Should have done the chrono on the darts, or also done them, since I'm sure that's the ammo most folks interested in these guns are going to use. I'm thinking you also should have done a meat target with the darts - maybe a chuck or rump roast with a cheap tee shirt over it - just something cheap so that we can see how they penetrate meat since clear ballistic gel does NOT simulate human tissue, instead, it's only purpose is to allow you to see wound cavities and other effects the projectiles create. In fact, you should probably add a meat target to all of the videos for air guns which are intended for anything other than knocking soda cans down - adding ten to twenty bucks to the cost of each video shouldn't hurt. Do you hunt? If so, then set up a Patreon channel as well so you can add hunting videos as well as earn a few extra bucks as while you have been given/loaned some nice guns, the ones you're buying are not cheap. Otherwise, keep up the good work!

I cannot understand the manufacturer's reasoning regarding the puny +4 J increase in kinetic energy (after seeing the chrono test - the real life difference is 1-2 J???)?! If this is not related to some legal boundary, this second version should have, at least, 30 J (30 J will pierce pepper balls regardless of the surface you shoot, i.e., a soft winter jacket). If I take my research into consideration, the minimal kinetic energy necessary to stop the majority of (human) attacks with the KINETIC round is 40 J. Police use 60-80 J (riot balls: rubber on the metal in.68 cal.). I wonder why people who are paying the very same police cannot legally own something similar? Well, I think we all know the answer to that question...

use a leg of pork with skin to simulate hitting a person

So basically both the new and the old, along with the Umarex HD50 are trash from the factory. They're only worth a damn when heavily modified.

Hey my man...what is your email? I have some shaped projectile prototypes that I created for the hdr50 and 68, that I want to send you to test.