NEW VENTUS TR RED & BLACK // Testing the all new 2022 Fujikura Ventus TR Shafts

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Today, Ian and Mike put the all new 2022 Fujikura Ventus TR shafts to the test against the already released TR Blue.
Ventus is one of the most successful shafts in Fujikura’s history. As the top shaft on Tour and at retail, Fujikura has now released the second-generation of its Ventus line with the two addition shafts in TR Black and TR Red. The TR models are stated to feature increased torsional stiffness in the handle section.
Find out what Ian and Mike think as they put all three to the test!
Ventus Shafts Showdown // Testing the all new 2022 Fujikura Ventus TR: • Ventus Shafts Showdown...
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@richardskinner5050
@richardskinner5050 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Ian you are the shaft Guru. Amazing insights
@FF04RDF
@FF04RDF Жыл бұрын
Interesting review 👍🏻 Played with the Ventus Blue 6s last year with my TS3 driver and really enjoyed it. (Felt I could hit it hard but my spin numbers were too high). Changed to Rogue ST Max with GD Tour AD xc and having a great time with it. Took a while to get the timing right when I went after one but over time, the feel is excellent and my numbers have improved significantly. Spin is down, carry and total up and fairways found much improved. Expensive upgrades but worth it even at my level of golf.
@justinm4801
@justinm4801 Жыл бұрын
This is great. I have found equally similar results. Ventus tr blue never went the farthest for me but dispersion was just soo good, i sacrificed a bit of ball speed from ventus black because i just feel with the tr blue i know where the ball is going almost every time
@JohnFishburne1
@JohnFishburne1 Жыл бұрын
Ventus Black does really well with heavy heads and high moi heads to help give the shaft a little more deflection on the down swing. Cool stuff.
@SONOMA_VALLEY_TOM
@SONOMA_VALLEY_TOM Жыл бұрын
I just swapped out a Vista Pro shaft on my Tour Edge Exotics E722 for a Ventus Red 5R. Adds 10 yards to my drive. Arrow straight. Going to get Ventus Red for my 3wood and 20 degree hybrid. I was a skeptic that a shaft would do much for an average golfer. Been proven wrong about that. I’m 70 years old, 12 handicap, driver club speed 90 mph.
@ryansmith9283
@ryansmith9283 3 ай бұрын
Amazing as always guys would be very interested to see a direct comparison between hzrds and ventus models.
@dylandavies3634
@dylandavies3634 Жыл бұрын
I just got a stealth with a black 6x. Definitely like it a lot so far
@timseebold2355
@timseebold2355 Жыл бұрын
Go the TR black, crank up the loft and tweak the driver for baby draw! Frozen rope! Great to see you setup in the new TSR!
@thegolfingmusician6345
@thegolfingmusician6345 Жыл бұрын
Love the Ventus Red’s in my Tour Edge fairway woods. Considering one for my driver.
@parmanduke
@parmanduke Жыл бұрын
I put the Blue TR7 stiff into play. Straightest driver ever now and as long as anything prior. Your chart seems to support that result for my game.
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus Жыл бұрын
I'm playing blue tr in my driver....what a hammer. My strike just comes out of the middle so often. I was playing black before but tr blue is just a little more forgiving. I'm putting a red tr 8x in my 3 wood. I think it's going to be a real weapon in the sim2ti. Ian if you want to play less loft the red is the way to go. I have a 6x blue tr at 44.75 in an epic ls and it just goes straight. Almost scary straight even in the tour sleeve at -2 to the point you are scared to aim down the middle of the course all day
@erflog
@erflog Жыл бұрын
Like the idea of an anti left option!
@Delburr
@Delburr Жыл бұрын
i switched to the Blue TR from Regular ventus Blue..and I didnt think it could get better but yeah..it really is! PIcked up a few MPH ballspeed and dispersion is tighter.
@oatechaosincycles
@oatechaosincycles Жыл бұрын
It's cool you got Kelso on the channel.
@j10browngmail
@j10browngmail Жыл бұрын
I have a tr blue that I hit a few times and had to switch to black. It seemed to flex more when I cranked up the speed 114+ the blue was actually better. Granted I now have a barely used tr blue laying around but I think the blue has a stiffer handle than the TR blue
@DLOT1
@DLOT1 Жыл бұрын
The TSR sounds good 😌
@chico3136
@chico3136 Жыл бұрын
Love my ventus Blue but that Red TR got me thinkin….
@wyatthenry6821
@wyatthenry6821 Жыл бұрын
Loving my Ventus Blue TR 6-X in my TSI3. Best combo I’ve ever seen.
@user-fq5xu5fw8t
@user-fq5xu5fw8t Ай бұрын
Did you tip it? If so, how much?
@wyatthenry6821
@wyatthenry6821 Ай бұрын
No tipping, standard cut from the butt and length. I actually ended up swapping it out for black TR with the same head to produce the same effect, but not lose length. I’ve picked up more speed (118-122 club head speed).
@baldwin9281
@baldwin9281 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for the new TR series embargo to be over for a while now. Great to get eyes on them, awesome look. For me the TR Red is going to hopefully finish what the Ventus Red started. Very nice part.
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus Жыл бұрын
The handle is noticibly stiffer
@baldwin9281
@baldwin9281 Жыл бұрын
@@ScottDreyfus I was in an OG (2014) Speeder 661x from my 2016 build and took a little time off from playing much. Came back and had lost a lot of speed. Went Ventus Red 5s and it was way too far of a compensation (although it’s fast!) …but I turn it over too much. I gained back a little speed and have some more to go, about 104-105 now and looking for 108ish. When I stopped playing I was around 110-113. I’m 55 now and probably won’t see those numbers but it’s nice to have gained back some. I am putting in the TR Red 6s this weekend (and 7s in fwy) so looking forward to hitting.
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus Жыл бұрын
@@baldwin9281 Ventus red tr is a different animal than the 661 motore speeder. From a feel prospective. The tip is actually very similar but a Ventus red tr even in 5s is going to play a whole flex stiffer in the handle. The 661 kicked like a mule. The tr is very non Fuji feel. They've almost always been lower handle stiffness. We finally caught on to com only giving you relative butt stiffness
@baldwin9281
@baldwin9281 Жыл бұрын
@@ScottDreyfus Hmmm …very interesting, Chad knows my numbers and pretty solidly suggested I go 6s. Was back and forth for a bit. Hopefully it works out well. I won’t (can’t!) pay $175 just to swing a club at ClubChamp, etc. Looks like it’s gonna be an interesting weekend.
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus Жыл бұрын
@@baldwin9281 have you ever hit anything from matrix in the mid to late 2000s, because that’s the feel of the tr. it’s not crazy demanding outside of black but it is incredibly stable and these shaft allow for quicker lead deflection with the stiff butt and it’s why most people are seeing a slight uptick in speed as well. If you have a good positive AOA you’ll be able to play with slightly lower loft which will also increase ball speed.
@wardman7655
@wardman7655 5 ай бұрын
Can you order the Velocore+ yet? And is there a video, think you play the current blue now. Like ot see a video, some are out there and love your videos.
@pukkapeter
@pukkapeter Жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I'm off scratch and my bad one is a hook. I used tour issue Aldila TX 60g tour green for 5 years. Bought a Stealth and it came with a Kaili 70X, the heavier shaft has completely eliminated the left side of the course like the black TR did in this vid, even though results improved, I'm not a fan of the heavier shaft, it's taken feel of clubhead away. Maybe the 6X TR blue or normal black might be a good option. I do like my new baby fade, just want the feedback with it
@timbuma3693
@timbuma3693 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Rocco Mediates bag? He plays super stiff in everything for his swing speed (ventus black tr 7x in driver). He says super stiff helps with a draw and if it’s too soft it’ll just go high right. I’ve put some softer shafts in my driver and noticed it flying high right, maybe I should try a ventus black like him!
@nathangosselin9380
@nathangosselin9380 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, Hi Mike... I am curious as to if you guys have the Project X VRTX Blue Shaft in your studio and if you regularly fit anyone into that shaft. I was recently fit into this shaft for my woods during a full bag fitting but I wasn't completely sold on it, and I was wondering if there were any alternative shafts to this one that would fit into the same mid-low launch and mid spin category. Thanks!
@mikehoffman7131
@mikehoffman7131 Жыл бұрын
The Ventus Blue is the best shaft that I ever had. Just the stock TM one that came in my SIM2 has blown me away. I would say the Ventus line is the most welcomed/used/popular shaft since the NV Green
@lawbinson
@lawbinson Жыл бұрын
Proforce, NV, Tensei, Ventus
@ConnorLyon
@ConnorLyon Жыл бұрын
The stock ventus shafts in the Sim2 aren’t even the same shaft as the Velocore versions. They have the same name and the similarities end there.
@mikehoffman7131
@mikehoffman7131 Жыл бұрын
@@ConnorLyon that's why i said stock
@TJ-nk4de
@TJ-nk4de Жыл бұрын
Mitch, the stock “ventus” is a $10 junk mass produced shaft bud
@Cinder-
@Cinder- Жыл бұрын
Facts
@tdouglas1234
@tdouglas1234 Жыл бұрын
Ian which of these shaft would you recommend as I am swinging it around 95 MPH and play to a 4hcp. Thanks, Ted
@Samec37
@Samec37 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't the Aldila Rogue very successful also a few years back?
@zacharymilos392
@zacharymilos392 Жыл бұрын
Little ventus black tr in a g425 max or Max LS, aim for a push fade and swing as hard as possible knowing that sucker isn't going left on you. 🔥
@dougmael
@dougmael Жыл бұрын
I am playing a Ventus TR Blue shaft in my driver (I actually have two of them in two different weights, one in a Titleist TSi4 head and a 9 grams heavier one in a Tour Edge adapter that I play in either a C722 or E722 Exotics driver) and I love the TR Blue shafts. In fact, I love them so much that I am considering trying a TR Red 70 Series shaft in my TS2 4-wood. So far, the only thing holding me back is the fact that I love the 77 gram Miyazaki Kusala Mizu shaft that is in that 4-wood.
@user-fq5xu5fw8t
@user-fq5xu5fw8t Ай бұрын
Did you tip it? If so, how much?
@dougmael
@dougmael Ай бұрын
1/2”
@claytontylergolf6081
@claytontylergolf6081 Жыл бұрын
Really want to see a test with the Ventus TR line compared to the regular Ventus Line. But would also love to see the Ventus lines vs the HZRDUS RDX line.
@saturdayshanks3753
@saturdayshanks3753 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you from personal experience the RDX black is way more board-likethan Ventus Black (my driver speed is between 111 - 115mph). Really had to work hard to make the RDX work, but that’s just my experience. Could be wildly different for someone else.
@matthayes3686
@matthayes3686 Жыл бұрын
Is Michael wearing a paynes valley polo 👀 I have the same one
@brendandavis2292
@brendandavis2292 Жыл бұрын
HZRDUS RDX Red 6.5 75g in my 3 wood has been a game changer. Keen to try the TR Red in my 3 wood and see how that stacks up. Side note, how good are the TSR woods. Always been a 3 player but the new TSR2 is phenomenol and is the best looking 2 model I've seen
@joshvonpohle9624
@joshvonpohle9624 Жыл бұрын
320 at 111 mph is kind of hard to believe, I gotta go try that thing.
@encinobalboa
@encinobalboa Жыл бұрын
Older Black 6X is a lot of lumber for sure. I found I had to go after it to get the best. Interestingly, it still feels under control.
@eeleaj3934
@eeleaj3934 9 ай бұрын
I know what you mean once I tried it myself... very interesting indeed!
@Boothbym
@Boothbym Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to try a Red 6X!
@sully010579
@sully010579 5 ай бұрын
Red TR 🔥🔥🔥
@matthewsloan8827
@matthewsloan8827 Жыл бұрын
How does the hzrdus gen 4 black shaft compare to the Ventus tr line?
@TheBam3652
@TheBam3652 Жыл бұрын
Question for you guys. How can I reduce my back spin? Currently using a tensi orange 1k TX 60 in a sim 2 7⁰. Swing speed average around 122mph, going all out 130+ but my spin average is around 3000 and higher. I use a skytrak "I know its not a GCquad" but ill carry 305 with 3000+ spin. I feel it's accurate because I have the same results when playing golf. How can I lower my back spin. Thanks.
@nich576
@nich576 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video ya’ll, thoughts on tipping the TR shafts versus tipping the original line?
@MichaelM-to4sg
@MichaelM-to4sg Жыл бұрын
I think Ian already answered that in video. The TR versions are essentially handle stiffened versions of original. The Velocore tip sections are carryover thus tipping would be equal across entire line. That said, talk to your fitter and/or Fujikura authorized builder as Fujikura specifically does not recommend tipping of the Speeder nor Ventus shafts. You trim tip 1/2” on fw, drivers are untrimmed, at least if you follow their guidelines.
@schapediddly
@schapediddly Жыл бұрын
Maybe you said and I missed it, but we're these all 60x?
@rickrisatti6029
@rickrisatti6029 Жыл бұрын
Have to ask if you think the new TR red would add any more yards over my current red 5r ...95mph swing speed..thanks
@baldwin9281
@baldwin9281 Жыл бұрын
I’m about to find out. I’m just a little faster than that, not much (102-105 right now) and going from 5s Red to 6s TR Red. I turn over the 5s too much (TSi3 head), hoping this is the setup.
@JustaMountainbiker
@JustaMountainbiker 11 ай бұрын
@@baldwin9281hos did it work out for you?
@skylarsteel91
@skylarsteel91 Жыл бұрын
Need to see these shafts in the fairway wood! Needing a new 3 wood shaft. Play the ventus black for the handle but the red looks like the perfect compromise. Same butt section with a more active tip
@coryyyooo
@coryyyooo Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you guys test some different tour ad for comparisons
@williamelliott3778
@williamelliott3778 Жыл бұрын
Did you tip the shafts 1"?
@49giantwarriors83
@49giantwarriors83 Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to try the tr red tipped.
@jeremylonsdale3350
@jeremylonsdale3350 Жыл бұрын
Tr seems to be the tx models in other brands.
@alexl7327
@alexl7327 Жыл бұрын
Is that the new TSR driver head???
@SKIFOSHO
@SKIFOSHO Жыл бұрын
any insight on which is stiffer/tip-stiff? CK pro Orange 60TX vs Ventus Black TR 60TX?
@johns7446
@johns7446 Жыл бұрын
interest and good test, nice addition to the Ventus family. Anyone know if the Ventus Blue or Blue TR is equivalent characteristics to Hzrdus Blue, anyone tried them both ? - i dont have a way to test them so need to ask. :)
@tigertim9232
@tigertim9232 Жыл бұрын
I would say Hzdrus Blue and Blue TR are closer. I couldn't load either of those without back pain whereas Standard blue profile was my one and done. I believe Ian has said before that Hzrdus Blue has a tip profile stiffness stiffer than the Hulk Green one.
@jeffreygentes
@jeffreygentes Жыл бұрын
I went from the rdx blue 60TX to the blue tr 6x and the blue tr is a firmer feel through the mid while still a great feel. The rdx blue felt a bit soft in the mid for my feel. The blue TR in my g425lst is the straightest driver I’ve ever had.
@marshallw4492
@marshallw4492 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygentes That is great info Jeff. What SS are you at with the driver? 113-115 is pretty standard for me, but can get into 118-120 when warm. Currently play RDX Blue 70(6.5) and it can get a little loose. Not sure if I have the gas to step into a TX.
@jeffreygentes
@jeffreygentes Жыл бұрын
@@marshallw4492 I’m about 118-120 also. The 60TX was not enough. I also had the 80tx in my 3wood and still felt a little loose. Just put the kbs TD 80gTX in my 3wood and loving that!
@marshallw4492
@marshallw4492 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygentes Thanks man. Interesting that the Ventus TR seems to play a flex stiffer than the Hzdrus shafts. I'll take a look at the KBS TD.
@colinrenton890
@colinrenton890 Жыл бұрын
Ian looks like he’s been dooking for chips!
@GregPace
@GregPace Жыл бұрын
Curious where does the Fujikura Speeder NX fit in with these new Ventus shafts?
@jordancalanchini3496
@jordancalanchini3496 Жыл бұрын
Tsr?
@bananaballgolfermbaya6908
@bananaballgolfermbaya6908 Жыл бұрын
I was fitted for a Fujikura Ventus velocore. The fitter told me that as soon as I get the club, the new shaft has a break in period? Is this true? I almost feel like trading in the new shaft I get for the one that I used in the fitting process so I can go use it right away.
@scottjones2531
@scottjones2531 Жыл бұрын
Is there a left handed option for these? I can't find any info on the Ventus website.
@purrly8578
@purrly8578 Жыл бұрын
😆
@donkee9
@donkee9 Жыл бұрын
I need the metric one
@lawbinson
@lawbinson Жыл бұрын
Sutnev
@bentidy8951
@bentidy8951 Жыл бұрын
Should the TR range have been Purple, Navy and Midnight?
@michaelsmoot5200
@michaelsmoot5200 Жыл бұрын
Black is made for Scottish Lads
@ydargybwen
@ydargybwen Жыл бұрын
Idk, send me one of each so I can sure
@MichaelM-to4sg
@MichaelM-to4sg Жыл бұрын
I realize it’s completely psychological but there’s just something about red anything that’s a hard no for me 🤣. I did demo the original Ventus Blue and Ventus Black. The blue was solid but I didn’t feel it as smooth as familial mate Speeder NX. Of the 4 shafts I demoed for my driver, the Ventus Blue and Black finished 3rd and 4th, respectively. Probably just my swing, I’m 108-110 driver clubhead speed, smooth transition and moderate tempo. Think closer to Ernie Els than Justin Thomas. I ended up with Speeder NX 60X but it was really close with Mikey’s favorite, Diamana TB 50X. Surprisingly I preferred the 50 series TB despite coming from a 661 Speeder in my old gamer and preferring the 60-series in all of the Fujikura shafts I demoed. The knock on Ventus for me was the effort required to make it work. Especially the Black, it felt very wooden and only performed if I really went after it. I wanted to try the 60S version but my fitter didn’t have one to demo, the 60X was actually his personal driver. Sounds like the Ventus Red TR would be most suitable to my profile but the Speeder NX is such a fantastic shaft, it’s also in my 3-wood, that I can’t see it getting replaced in foreseeable future. I am curious with the proliferation of Ventus line on tour, is this replacing the Speeder line or will we continue seeing Speeder shafts in future?
@mcubez817
@mcubez817 Жыл бұрын
As always, excellent content! BUT…that new intro is terribly corny. Even if it’s 5 seconds I skip it. Nails on a chalkboard
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