New World's Combat Changes (Not) Successful?

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The New World Combat Code changes on the Season 5 PTR change various interactions and are meant to improve combat long-term. Along with it comes a new camera system with a free camera option. In this video, we discuss the new mechanics and talk about if the Combat Code Rework was a success.
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‪@ThaCousin‬ 's vid: • Why I'm not using Free...
‪@volty699‬ 's vid: • New World - Season 5 (...
00:00 - Combat Code & Mechanics Changes
00:18 - Why Free Camera Isn't Good Yet
02:03 - Free Cam Interactions Not Working Yet
03:24 - Performance
04:01 - Combat Code Changes
05:01 - Attack Queue
06:35 - Tracking Improvements
06:54 - Mechanics Changes & Existing Bugs
07:21 - Abilities With Movement Inputs
09:07 - More Tests
09:34 - Was The Combat Code Rework A Success?
10:43 - Jumping
11:10 - Abilities not connecting
11:42 - Ranged issue
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@DukeSloth 4 ай бұрын

ThaCousin's vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ia-FptCp1pmdeKc.html Volty's vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9Ngo9tkl57eon0.html

@ThaCousin 4 ай бұрын

♥

@volty699 4 ай бұрын

thanks for the shoutout duke ♥

@AG-oi9uj 4 ай бұрын

Attack Que happens to me allllll the time! I hate tbh that sometimes I over click that Que gets fillled with other abilities going off that I don’t want

@siN19BeaT 4 ай бұрын

ability que is worst feeling in new world

@jzeat1480 4 ай бұрын

@@siN19BeaTits disabled now right? Or lessened at least

@swan7654 4 ай бұрын

Happy to hear about the performance improvement!

@NoAlias536 4 ай бұрын

If you activate the free movement in the PTR and then you swap to the normal game it stays activated. Is that a bug?

@alexorgy 4 ай бұрын

The performance improvements sound nice. Maybe also a good sign for the console releases.

@FunniesRS 4 ай бұрын

just out of curiosity how does redirecting your execute attack with a greataxe work on the freemove? since i tend to do that with my mouse would that now be done with arrow keys if the target moves?

@nickhohl3468 4 ай бұрын

if you enable the setting that your melee attacks will follow your mouse instead of the direction of your character then it will be the same feel as before with you redirecting the execute.

@rotnbazturd7569 4 ай бұрын

I am always using different weapons and i have had that issue with abilities not activating on several different weapons. Thought it might be my wireless keyboard but now i see it may be a bug.

@BluuSkyz 3 ай бұрын

Is the controller update live yet? I’m overseas don’t have option to play on my keyboard, so I’m looking to play on a controller.

@planetg2125 4 ай бұрын

Anyone checked hatchet + phoenix what peocs on death? Does defy death and amulet both proc together?

@BeeBopGaming 4 ай бұрын

The area you’re in reminded me to take my allergy medicine. 💊 great info like always.

@DukeSloth 4 ай бұрын

LMAO

@moseidon946 4 ай бұрын

Very curious to see how many adjustments they'll make before the patch release, should be easier to adjust given the native c++ move correct? Guess their word is getting put to the test. 🙏

@DukeSloth 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it should be a lot easier. That said, knowing their usual schedule I wouldn't expect an insane amount of changes before patch release, but rather in the next patches after

@moseidon946 4 ай бұрын

@@DukeSloth very true, it's a bummer we have to think that way given that the ptr is for exactly this reason, to adjust it and correct errors before live. We all have Stockholm syndrome lol I think for most pvp most will not turn on free-form.

@moseidon946 4 ай бұрын

@@DukeSloth looks like they are pumping fixes!

@ddyang9172 4 ай бұрын

I hate that you can just pass through all the plants, without them moving to you going through them.

@heartless_gamer 4 ай бұрын

Sweep not connecting unless you are trying to block it... then it'll go right through block and connect :P

@LoneBluesman 3 ай бұрын

Same as usual. 1 step forward, 3 steps backwards. Ags on new world since day 1.

@mikesimcoe3067 4 ай бұрын

@dukesloth your second spin on melstrom didnt go off. on great axe

@fpsshotty7445 4 ай бұрын

You can still flick your camera around on free movement. This can let you do things like dodge swings, angled dodging, etc. Personally the reason things are feeling weird is because its new. Most hardcore war players are all on the freecam movement on live because of the advantages you get from them.

@GenDrake3 4 ай бұрын

Minus healers. You can't evade backwards in freeform

@gregorybailey3837 4 ай бұрын

@@GenDrake3 Yes but you can turn off attacks toward camera and run target select for heals in settings :D

@fpsshotty7445 4 ай бұрын

@@GenDrake3 Tricktrick was able to on live servers as a FS rapier. PTR really messed up a lot of random things but using the movement on live fixed a lot of them. Really counterintuitive

@WarchiefRoric 4 ай бұрын

also one thing i've noticed playing ptr is: When you go to light attack cancel with some weapons it breaks the ability i.e: the 2nd hit of maelstrom not proccing because you did an attack and cancelled into it, same happens with the new whirlwind axe: you display it here at 11:05 and it pains me to see xD

@DukeSloth 4 ай бұрын

I actually had a whole part talking about that 2nd hit not going off that I cut out since wasn't 100% sure about the cause. Assumed I somehow got staggered through grit but your explanation makes a lot more sense, cheers!

@lyncharles4856 4 ай бұрын

This should speed up combat a bit making engaging in battles more efficient for most. Hopefully attracting those who held the perspective that New World combat was a little too slow for their taste. A good negotiation factor.

@BBn577 3 ай бұрын

be cool if we could get something for the pvp community

@Altarknight 4 ай бұрын

The real PTR will be the " live servers" I tried to test basic attacks spells on every patch because never a same . It will be the same here too , needed to test all attacks from basic .. In exemplary basic attacks have more damage agents" absorb type" armour . So if go get thrust perc based damage will increase but absorb damage will be less, it's complicated to explain. But so vierd. I'm sure not even AGS understand the armour damage reducing/ absorbing or armour percs or gem absorbing.

@MrProbstandrew 4 ай бұрын

im not sure your explanation here gave any type of info or insight.. what are u even saying bro? hehe ;b

@user-ng2qx4xd1b 3 ай бұрын

I blame the mounts. Take them away and the bugs leave

@Timayy 4 ай бұрын

My fauult about the attack quing

@pvpgamerdotcom 4 ай бұрын

How do you do the greatsword animation cancel. I did not see you block or anything to stop the attack.

@nickhohl3468 4 ай бұрын

you heavy then press an ability with the right timing. it's very easy and doesn't need any special input. works with all weapons.

@ellis2888 4 ай бұрын

Pyramid song in the background❤

@milla465 4 ай бұрын

Im ready for x/y/z weapons/ abilitys being disabled for the first few weeks after the patch goes live due to bugs

@THESEVENTHART 3 ай бұрын

Please there is no option for freeform movement! why? I can't find it.

@RainbowGrinderDub 3 ай бұрын

i'm having the same issue. I can't find it in game settings.

@MythicSapphire 4 ай бұрын

🎉🎉

@McDudes 4 ай бұрын

yeah input que feels so bad on ptr

@Dor_sap 4 ай бұрын

sorry but how do you have 7K inventory space

@NoAlias536 3 ай бұрын

I think that the cyclone and auto attack test is OK. This is somehow something good against cancelling animation. After all NW is not a game like ESO. Has more a tactical slow combat. If someone expects the opposite can go and play ESO.

@neyriks101 4 ай бұрын

There may be problems with the hatchet due to your latency, which is 250-370. Just a guess

@DukeSloth 4 ай бұрын

Other people have tested the Hatchet issues on better ping and in both cases it only affects 1 ability. Unlikely to be ping

@McDudes 4 ай бұрын

Freeform camera is way better though makes movement faster and speeds up game play in general

@actosh7670 4 ай бұрын

Kinda like all the Changes and that it kills ani cancels and that the dodge>jump has been looked at. Was ok on ptr for me

@nickhohl3468 4 ай бұрын

you like that animation cancels are removed? and that they made traversing the battle field harder and lowered the skill ceiling? why?

@OccamsEraserhead 4 ай бұрын

If you live in SEA, 200+ ping is par for the course.

@gman4072 3 ай бұрын

It's laughable for a game released almost 3 years ago to find itself still trying to figure out the combat. I imagine this game 3 years from now trying to figure out end game content and still fixing combat bugs

@Adzzzzzzzzzzz 4 ай бұрын

Joe!

@pvpgamerdotcom 4 ай бұрын

They need a hotkey to toggle the movement so that you can press that, then press backward and dodge.

@PoleVault 4 ай бұрын

Wake me up when AGS delivers actual content

@danborg1228 4 ай бұрын

yer agree

@Einared 4 ай бұрын

Set alarm to October 2025, think we should have some content by then

@MrRhoidRage 4 ай бұрын

@@EinaredI said that in December 2022 lol

@julianluna3680 4 ай бұрын

Don’t worry this has all been on giant alpha test they’ll finally work on content after they milk a console release

@garugaru6054 3 ай бұрын

most of this happen bcs input latency .. i play 180 ms in oce server this thing is normal

@MASTERVAVI 4 ай бұрын

click bait ? it's a huge improvement so far! The ability to time your dodges from attacks when running backwards is massive.

@krismason7322 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it's clickbait. Only a small minority don't seem to like it. In general it feels a lot better across the board. It justs an adjustment compared to the current way we all know that's all.

@Timayy 4 ай бұрын

@@krismason7322it’s just unnecessary. They should be spending their time on actual important changes

@MASTERVAVI 4 ай бұрын

@@krismason7322 yeah for a small moment I felt weird but it was muscle memory adapting to it. I think it's a 50% improvement!

@ArtfulDoge 4 ай бұрын

I can't wait for them to just go ahead and release it in this state without fixing anything 😂

@delunk5906 4 ай бұрын

I’m worried about the combat changes because they said ONE person did it… That doesn’t sound promising to me.

@shusakudake 4 ай бұрын

i can tell you thats the best that can happen if 1 person does it bc the person understands his own code to 100% normaly. multiple person will have often the problem not everyone codes the same (but its still nw so y could be still bad)

@Zhgarr 4 ай бұрын

They only named the architect, there's probably many people actually converting the scripts to use the new system.

@breal84 4 ай бұрын

New world combat not successful? Wow. How much longer are you going to wait?

@TheNarsilus 4 ай бұрын

On musket, after shot you're SO GODDAMN SLOW on ptr

@vadimKin22 3 ай бұрын

и это правильно)

@vobic13 4 ай бұрын

the only thing new world can do that's successful is shut down. also funny as fuck that people need to ask streamers to go over the notes and ect as if they are unable to read or understand anything 🤣

@LuiGuiShi 4 ай бұрын

Did they fixed the debuff/dot that doesn't stack ? Like if two people applies Hex from a gem on their weapon, does it stack yet or still not? As long as they don't fix that, this game is still in beta in my mind.

@DukeSloth 4 ай бұрын

That's not a bug, that's intended. They don't want dots of the same type to stack, including Runeglass.

@gregorybailey3837 4 ай бұрын

I hope people realize... that all of these "Delays", are to remove "Ability spamming" for HUGE burst damage. I can't tell you how many times someone has ran up to me with a blunderbuss and spammed all of their abilities and I die immediately with 15k health and heavy armour. It should have never worked that way in the first place. But oh, I forgot, any changes that remove something that gives you a unfair advantage is a bad change because then you can't gatekeep the ability sequences that are spammy as hell and don't take any skill from players that are new to PvP/ don't do it that often :). Same with the dodge tech. I think it was STUPID in the first place that you could ROLL DODGE in a FREAKING CIRCLE to get behind you're opponent. Thank you AGS for evening the playing field and making PvP more accessable to everyone :D Sorry for the rant. I just hate when people, especially influencers, complain about good changes that support the LARGER playerbase (Casuals) :)

@TB-4 4 ай бұрын

Yeah that roll dodge is bs if your in heavy and they keep flanking with roll dodges.

@TheCrushmaster 4 ай бұрын

Homie no one is one shotting a heavy armor user with a BB, it's been nerfed into the ground Also, lots of animation cancels still exist, meaning it's just buggy as heck, not intentional Anyone can hit 2-3 buttons in rapid succession, if that's too difficult maybe PvP games aren't for you

@GodKingx87 4 ай бұрын

It’s an option you don’t have to use so I’m sure some ppl will still use old settings and roll around you’re back

@luthfanger1464 4 ай бұрын

New worlds jump was already a joke. How did they possibly make it worse lol

@Apoxolypse 4 ай бұрын

Oh god you'll have to use movement keys to actually dodge now. god forbid AGS makes it so not every noob can pull off 180 dodges on a whim lol

@Halloum_ 4 ай бұрын

Bruh what are you smoking, the change actually limits skill expression, not improve it

@nickhohl3468 4 ай бұрын

found someone who clearly doesn't know how to use their shift key. side dodges are an incredible movement tool when used right. you'd be less angry about it if you were skilled enough to understand and use it.

@davidhalsall667 4 ай бұрын

how the hell do you have nearly 7k weight lol

@JEROBI37 4 ай бұрын

Ptr bags

@KevOfPeen 4 ай бұрын

yep, any good pvper isnt touching the freelook . and the new combat system brought so many bugs... they ruining their one niche wich was the combat. 5k playerbase incoming

@_shep311 4 ай бұрын

Why isn't movement based on weight?> You're in the heaviest of the heaviest gear and you have the same movement as a light clothy...(speed wise, not dodge)? So many BS things they need to fix.

@Altarknight 4 ай бұрын

New World, will be the game where you always could make a content what is wrong. And more content creators then players. 12k world wide players it's tell everything about the game 😢😮

@Altarknight 4 ай бұрын

Sorry for comments, also remember the " mouse sensitivity" issue, is same on PTR . After years and years 😮

@veroh-qj3ix 4 ай бұрын

First! for the algorithm

@relow8650 4 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but why does everybody still play this. Been keeping a eye on this game and no actual content ever

@JEROBI37 4 ай бұрын

Combat is the only reason people stay at least pvp players, idk how any pver can think the pve in this game is good compared to something like wow which has had many many years to develop their progression and pve systems.

@user-tn5wm2tm1t 4 ай бұрын

Imo they could remove the skill queue 😅 I hate it.

@shusakudake 4 ай бұрын

y its so dumb how this game is buffering like hell feels so clunky

@StealthBoyElite 4 ай бұрын

Really have to question the validity/usefulness of a worldwide test server to test things like this.

@DerrekU2ber 4 ай бұрын

Why wouldn’t it be useful to test these changes?

@abnormous69 4 ай бұрын

When do you think something will actually be done about people using aim bot and other 3rd party programs to give players an unfair advantage?

@SOTR321 4 ай бұрын

Bro ive stsrted 3 months ago. I have over 1000hrs in pvp . Please tell where you are seeing this because i pvp constantly and never ever have i felt that another person was cheating / useing aimbot

@neyriks101 4 ай бұрын

@@SOTR321 Playing from alpha and have about 2300-2500 hours, never saw too. (im pvp btw)

@l1306 4 ай бұрын

Just a skill issue tbf

@enkript 4 ай бұрын

there used to be players with aimbot, but those days are gone since they reoworked musket. only thing that it can exist now is to speed up attacks, but you get banned from that fast. cheating atm is mostly gone, even bots are mostly gone.

@SOTR321 4 ай бұрын

@@l1306 lmaoo thats what i was thinking

@danborg1228 4 ай бұрын

you still adding playing can´t be bothered when is same o same altime the combatt was good before so why add more shit ebcuse of consoles prob it´s like i been saying from day one of crossplay it´s gonna ruin games it´s one thing if they port and then add for pc but the other way around is never ending well wheir in some cases console have advantages lower inputlags then pc apex legends is prime example of that

@77q7 4 ай бұрын

another failed update incoming

@aaronsmith4273 4 ай бұрын

New World is made by robots. Once that clicks everything makes sense. It checks all the boxes but has no "soul". They don't stop and think about what emotions they are trying to to invoke in a player while doing any given thing. From combat to expeditions to PVP to Wars to Invasions. It all just checks a box.

@TylerDull 4 ай бұрын

I’ve never played a game where the players hate the game so much.

@JEROBI37 4 ай бұрын

@@TylerDullI think a lot of us love the combat of the game we just do not like the devs, they are quite incompetent