thank you!

As an Englishman and cricket fan the very first thing I thought as this game ended was “I can’t wait to see what Jomboy says about this”

@🐅Joe Coolio🐅 i recommend trying T20 first. it's about the same length of a baseball game. I like the Indian Premier League and Caribbean Premier League myself

@@JomboyMedia I only wish you had included the run out on Bracewell. A "little league" mistake killed their second innings rally

As someone who has never watched a full game of cricket, and is not even really a baseball guy, these videos make me much more interested in the sport! I can't imagine hitting a baseball pitch that bounces first 😅

I just commented on that,then saw your comment.

Anyone but England

Yeah he just said 10 batters because you need to get 10 outs. I think he didn’t believe people were ready to hear about the concept of batting in pairs at the time.

The only thing I didn't like was a 4 being represented as a double as that's better described as the point for running between the wickets. 6 home run and 4 is hitting the fence but not over and if you do either the say good job you don't need to run the bases for that.

I thought you were going to to say as an Australian I'm disappointed to see that we lost the other 3 games that enforced the follow on to lose.

I used to think as a kid ODI's >Test match cricket. I never understood the Test part actually means it's a TEST of every little facet of the game, especially on day 4&day 5 when the pitch is deteriorating, both sides are battling fatigue, hostile crowds etc

why did england forfeit the last two wickets in the first innings, where they really concerned they would run out of time already??

@@Medsas Some parts of the game were lost to rain, so they were thinking about the time and it did end up coming down to the final session of day 5, so there wasn't heaps of time left but yeah with perfect 20/20 hindsight you would've batted an hour longer, but then you would have bowled to NZ at a different time at might not have got the wickets so easily so who knows?

@@Medsas the conditions of both the pitch (the section of ground that they bowl on) and the weather can have a significant impact on how the ball moves when bowled in cricket, to the point that in some conditions batting can be harder late in the day as the humidity rises so the ball swings more and light conditions can make it harder to see the ball. Because of this, England is currently playing with a pretty novel strategy where they bat significantly more aggressive than most teams would to allow for an early declaration late in the day to force the other team to bat in the tougher conditions. Also worth noting that it's hard to return to batting after the overnight break as players will get their eye in, then have to stop for the day and start fresh again the next day. So by declaring late in the day, England is forcing their opponent's top batters to face that risky period the next morning in the hope they'll get them out a bit cheaper. So no, it wasn't a declaration because of time concerns, but more a strategic ploy based on an innovative game plan.

@@glenni249 thanks for the detailed answer Glenn!

Follow-ons are quite rare. So not surprised you didn't come across it before.

Follow-ons are generally rarer in recent decades in test cricket because most captains prefer to bat again. The thinking behind that is that it allows his or her bowlers to rest and get a night's sleep and gives more time for the pitch to deteriorate to help the bowlers rather than have his own team batting last on a deteriorating pitch. If you bat again it can also mean that you have a chance of effectively batting them out of the game which can be psychologically difficult to to cope with.

TY for explaining some of the drawbacks. follow on just made sense, i figured there was no disadvantages, it saves time.

I believe in the case of this match, there was some chance that rain would affect the last two days. It's been a shockingly wet summer on the North Island of New Zealand, so this was a pretty safe bet. I believe that this was playing on Stokes' and the other senior English players' minds as they chose to enforce the follow on. They basically had the idea that if they could run through NZ again quickly, then that would take the effect of weather out of the game, otherwise, a draw was the most likely outcome. They didn't really expect to bat again or, if they had to, it would be a short innings, maybe only a session or so of batting. New Zealand adjusted well and gave themselves the chance to take it deep into the fifth day, though, probably more in the hopes of a draw if the aforementioned rain had hit, but in the end, well...

@@franzfanz I think you're absolutely right. Overs had been lost to rain already and if that had continued to happen much into the future then not enforcing the follow on would have seemed foolish. Rain delays alsk massively reduce the "tiring out our bowlers" problem.

One advantage of a follow on is it gives you enough time to bowl the team out. Hopefully cheap and allow you enough time to go back to bat and score the winning runs. Not the case in this game though.

@@diox8tony Asking a team to follow on seems obvious but the number of times in recent years when teams have been in a position to ask the other team to follow on but haven't done it has actually increased. The team ahead actually chooses to bat quickly for a bit and then declare giving themselves like 1.5 days to try and bowl out the opposition. I reckon England should have done the same here.

The other time was a 1993 test match between Australia and West Indies at the Adelaide Oval where Courtney Walsh got Craig McDermott caught by the wicket-keeper even though it turned McDermott didn't hit the ball (or more accurately the ball didn't brush his glove). If Australia had won that match it would have given them an unbeatable 2-0 with 1 match to play in Perth. Instead the teams went to Perth 1-1 and then the West Indies destroyed Australia to win the series 2-1 and Allan Border never got to beat the West Indies in a test series.

​​@@stackhat8624 A certain hard stress ball through a certain door too haha Yeah felt sorry for AB, especially the capitulation in Perth. All thanks to Dean Jones and white sweat ban that Curtly Ambrose wore and transformed him from a average bowler on that particular tour up to that point back, to his world class best.

also the first time new zealand has won a test after being made to follow on

He lived in Australia as a kid for a while so he understands the sport.

Cricket isn't really a "foreign" sport in North America. Soon after the English went home after the WOI cricket took on in a big way to the tune of there allegedly being some 4000 players in the New England states. A USA Cricket Association has existed for over 60 years.

@@flamingfrancis Australia and England both have toured North America, before WW I . The first international cricket match ever played was 1844, Canada vs USA at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken New Jersey, co-incidently also the site of the first "professional" baseball game. Canada won by 23 runs. Apparently there were 20,000 spectators, huge mounts were bet on the game. This match is also probably the first international contest in any sport.

@@daviddilley8310 St. Georges moved to Hoboken in the 1850s. In 1844 it was in Manhattan.

@@daviddilley8310 You will find that the game you refer to used a Club team from USA so it should not be considered a full international. A modern day equivalent would be per a World Club Chamionship such as Rugby League plays.

What about celebration around the city

@@iameverywhere8551 Have you been to Mumbai?

I was 13 year old then. I still remember that world cup and that match vividly.

lol so the day before the game you mention, I landed in Colombo Sri Lanka, and every Lankan I spoke to look at me like I was an absurd fool... one finally told me... Half of SL is trying to go to India to watch the game, and you've come from India to SL!!

You could say that New Zealand won the game by the barest of margins

gratz it was such an amazing test. Wags is a legend.

fuck.....watch the windies....they are ruining my life quite a bit lately

if this is sliver age, has there been a golden?

New Zealand should feel proud for years. Winning that test match in the manner they won the match!

I honestly thought Neil Wagner was going to implode when he got that wicket, such an intense player

Also he wrote all that classical music!

He reminds me of Andy Bichel.

He's a pretty special player. For context: he's not considered a very fast or skilful bowler, but he specialises in 'chin music', which is basically bowling the ball at people's faces. Normally this doesn't work too good in cricket because players can just ignore it and wait for a better scoring opportunity- but Wags can do this shit all day, for days on end, which is not easy or normal. You can't just wait him out if you need runs, his superhuman stamina and energy will make you dance his tune - and if you make one mistake you're done. Guy is like the Terminator, he'll bowl at you trying to decapitate you for ten days if he has to. Everyone knows what it's about, but it ain't easy to deal with.

His bouncers are also very very accurate in that comfortable-uncomfortable zone where the batsman feels like its not high enough to duck under and so they go after it...and thus eventually get out caught. Wagner is the only bowler in the world that consistently uses bouncers as his go-to option to get people out.

Great to hear from you. Do you mean you watched the final half of England's innings?

This was a good test match to tune in to, lol

Next destination - Major League Cricket (July 13)

There's this year's IPL league starting soon, it's the most high-profile cricket league. Then, Major League Cricket starts this mid-late July I think. This is a big part of the "big push" to embed cricket more in the US.

I can't tell you enough, about how right you are. I'm a lifelong cricket fan who got into baseball a couple of years ago. It was kinda difficult to understand initially, but once I understood the sport, it was really easy to get behind. I really like baseball even though I'm a casual fan of it. If people are open-minded (like how you are), there's so much cross-sport exchange of fanbases that can happen b/w these two sports. They're so similar to, yet so different from each other. On a foundational basis, they're both the same sport because the ultimate aim of both is exactly the same: to score more runs in order to win. And that there's a batting side and a bowling/pitching side. But, everything else on top of this is radically different because baseball. Trust me, you'll love cricket if you're a baseball fan. You're open-minded about it, so you should definitely give it a try. You needn't become a hardcore cricket fan. You can appreciate it even as a casual fan. If you become a hardcore fan, you'll get obsessed with it like you're with baseball lol. And there's no point comparing these two sports. They're both great in their own regard.

@@cricketexplained8526 The comparison of a T20 game to a Test game is analogous to comparing softball to baseball. One thing for sure is that if cricket is reintroduced into the Olympics it will not be the Test variant.

@@flamingfrancis not sure what point you're making that I don't already know. But the fact is Americans are much more likely to watch T20 than Tests so it's worth mentioning what's coming up.

​@@flamingfrancisI will never suggest test cricket to a new comer. They will be bored to watch it.

I feel like baseball fans, if born in a country where cricket was the predominant highly technical sport, would *absolutely* be cricket fans

​@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 Absolutely. Summer game. Bat, ball, fielding, throwing. Old traditions. Rich statistics. Beer and picnic vibes. Deathly rivalries both nationwide and neighbourhood level. Great sport for the radio. Dad and son vibes. Absolutely the same niche.

Free to get in but beers were 25 bucks

@@kevincinnamontoast3669 25NZD? Bloody hell.

@@kevincinnamontoast3669 Honestly? Not terrible, considering drink and food prices at stadiums in the US LOL.

Same here. Always been interested by cricket but have never gotten around to watching a game so these breakdowns are awesome

Try watching a T20 game. Takes about as long as a baseball game and favors hitting often. They can be pretty exciting to watch especially when a batter is in the zone or when the chasing team cuts it close as the overs deplete. From a fellow new cricket fan that started with baseball.

@@DurkMcGerk Good on you for giving the sport a go. Hope that with time you can come to love test cricket too

Major league cricket in june

ESPN+ carries cricket. Quite a lot of it actually.

Very hard to imagine that eventuating if you are familiar with the amount of baseball terms, techniques, skills that have become part and parcel of cricket, especially the T20 variant. Accredited baseball coaches have been employed in elite cricket for decades.

I'm using baseball brain!

​@@JomboyMedia the baseball rule would be good to introduce in cricket. The home field advantage is MASSIVE in cricket and allowing the touring team to automatically win the toss would reduce that a bit.

@@benneem some might even think that's the gentlemanly thing to do, which would be fitting for cricket.

@@benneem having away team choose to bat or field is a no-brainer but of course the Indians and BCCI dont like the idea so it will never happen. In the 2nd test between the recent Australia (home team) v West Indies (away) series Australia won the toss and batted first. I knew immediately that Australia would have a massive win and stopped watching. Not that if West Indies got to have the choice of batting first that they would have a real chance of winning but at least the game would be more interesting with the West Indies having a decent chance of posting a decent first innings score on a pretty good batting pitch.

If you're in North America, look into the information on the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup.

@@athhar3643 Cool thanks, I'll definitely look into it!

Thanks for sharing! I was somewhat confused what that happened in the video

Wouldn't it make sense to put a decent batter at 10 or 11 in the lineup, so you don't end up with 9 outs and 2 bowlers batting?

@@FCBfullMatch Not so much, because then you risk the good batter being not out, as they're stuck with the bowlers

@@FCBfullMatch You are better off getting the job done early and relying on the pitchers as the last chance for offence if things don't go well than putting the bunnies (poor hitters) in early where they'll likely contribute nothing and leave less outs for the hitters to risk at the end.

@@FCBfullMatch no, you want your DH to get as many pitches to hit as possible and bat together. sending bowlers anywhere other than the bottom would be like sending a pitcher to hit at 1

Ah, chill. I was out with an Indian friend of mine last week and he was *so excited* about getting up at 4am the next day to watch the India-Australia test. I did text him the following evening to see how he felt about that, but his phone must have broken or something, because he hasn't got back to me :)

preciate ya Jesse!

Funny thing with ties in cricket is that it's only ever happened twice where it ended with both teams on the same score exactly with no more outs left while draws where they just run out of time and there are still wickets left. Draws are fairly common, ties are the rarest thing in test cricket.

In cricket, ties and draws are not the same thing. A draw is when you get to the end of the 5th day of a test match and there was no "result". I.e., you didn't get through both teams' two innings. A tie is when a match ends and the scores are equal. These are _exceedingly_ rare in test cricket (has happened only twice ever), but are slightly more common in what's called "One Day" cricket, or in "Twenty20", because these formats are shorter and always go to a specified number of balls. In One Day, it's 50 overs (of 6 balls each), and T20 has 20 overs. Because of the specified number of balls, draws are not possible.

Great to hear an American enjoying it mate. I'm an Aussie and I just listen to it on the Radio at work. I've only started becoming interested in the Last few years and really enjoy it now.i enjoy the banter from the commentators as well

There is just so much more to baseball strategy. The different types of pitching alone does it for me. I know there's a few different kinds of bowlers in cricket, but because you can throw balls endlessly, it just doesn't take the Precision it does in the major leagues

@@RandallBalls Let's not make this a cricket vs baseball thing. Both are great games with endless intricacies that people enjoy. And you need plenty of precision and control to make it as an elite cricketer, as I'm sure you do for baseball too. Not sure where you got that from.

​​@@RandallBalls few,?? Lol, the different kind of bowling style in cricket is on another level, There actually sub groups withing these styles, for example one the type of Bowling in Cricket is called Spin bowling, Spin Bowling is than further classified into different kinds, Eg, Leg Spin, then that leg spin bowling also has different kinds of of style to bowl, and no not just 1-2, but probably 7-8. The Bowler in every over (1 over= 6 balls) jumps between all different kinds of bowling style to trick the Batsman. The strategy of the batsman, bowler and the entire match for that matter changes after every bowl, and the fact that u said that u can "throw" balls endlessly in cricket shows u know thing about the sport. We don't throw ball in cricket, we actually bowl it, Bowling is Biomechanically a different motion than throwing, you should look it up. And you say pitching needs precision? Well bowling needs precision along with Intelligence, strategy, calculation, and playing mind games with the batsman. The entire time both the bowler and batsman are at cold war with each other, the bowler is literally setting up the batsman to outsmart and trick him the whole time, and vice versa. Also the fact that cricket fielders catch a ball heavier and harder than Baseball with bare hands alone makes Cricket a far better game. Bruh, if Baseball is chess than Cricket is chequers, where Test cricket is playing chequers on a stadium for five days continuously.

Actually New Zealand won the toss and elected to field.

Well, Major League Cricket is starting in July. Hopefully they will have a big media push in the weeks prior. The draft is taking place this month.

Which team do you support in IPL @deathcare??? 😃😃😃

Don't forget Dravid aka "the wall"

I'm still in awe, if somebody asked me 'why do you care' about test cricket, this is exhibit A. It had everything, I'm actually a bit melancholy because I know it can't be topped. I saw someone do the maths on the odds of a crazy result like this and it's like a one in 3700 year event.

More like the 2019 ashes test match at headingley

Interesting description of how something similar to the follow on could be implemented in baseball.

Yes, they want the term draw should be forgotten from test cricket itself

Typical bazball

This is the part where test cricket loses me. Every match where the teams are actually competitive comes down to the last 10 minutes even if there were 5 days of play before it.

@@bubba200874426 That's conversely why one of the reasons I and others love it so much. It's like a marathon coming down to a photo finish.

@@cricketexplained8526 dude has to be there. It helps if you’ve got a team you care about! Or you’ve seen Neil Wagner’s face when he bowls. I usually think you’ve just got to be born into it.

Explore packages that will give you ESPN+. Willow TV might also be an option, but I hear mixed things about them.

I think there are games on espn+

Willow tv or espn+

@@_kanv26_ Thanks for the answer(s) :)

That really surprises me given we have played baseball in Oz since the mid 1850's...around the time when the first official rules were set in US. We had a season opening MLB series at the SCG in 2014 (LAD v. ARI) which commemorated a century since A J Spalding brought his All Americans here. Baseball was played as exhibition sport at 1956 Melbourne Olympics where over 100K spectators attended (after opening ceremony). There is also a photo of Bradman's Invincibles decked out in baseball uniform in MCG Long Room. So many greats of cricket have played baseball at a high level, some being scouted by MLB teams. We have also produced over 40 ABL players in MLB since 1985. Also won Silver at Athens Olympics.

@@flamingfrancis Lol!! Sorry.. Babe Ruth!! Obviously some of us are just into footy and Cricket!! But you be a sikk kaNt and write a full essay bout a sport NO one gives 2 fUkkZ about here.

Just goes to show why cricket never took off in the US, you yanks (barring a few like Jomboy) don't have the patience for the subtleties of Test cricket.

@@thesmithersy I might get into it if jomboy keeps up the breakdowns. I lived in NZ for 8 years, I kinda regret not getting into cricket while I was there.

@@thesmithersy Au contraire, cricket was popular in the US pre WW1, more so pre-Civil War.

Well T20 finishes in 3hr

T20 cricket finishes in 3 hours. You are talking about traditional Test Cricket.

When he said 'away team bats first' I was like hang on...

Thanks for clearing up draw vs. tie. Would it be fair to say a draw is like a baseball pitcher getting a no decision?

​​​​​@@kevincrotty826 I wouldn't say so. A no decision seems to only affect the pitcher if I'm correct, but the game will still have a winner. A draw in cricket does not impact a bowler statistically as we don't have a win-lose stat for bowlers, but it affects everybody as neither side wins.

@@kevincrotty826 Kinda, depending on the circumstances of the game it can be the same as a blown save or a no contest depending on the team. For example if a team needs to score 4-500 runs to win. Which would be record breaking, the batting team will aim for a draw because the win is unlikely, while the bowling team will see a draw as a loss. Some of the best games end in draws or come close too it when a team will bat for two days just to either be all out with a short amount of time left or manage to survive with only 1 out left to draw the game while still needing to score another 200 runs etc. Draws can also be helpful for teams because the trophy for each series between two countries only trades if you win the series, if its a drawn series the previous winner keeps it. So if a 3 game series is 1-1, it can be in the holding teams interest to play for a draw and the other teams interest to play more aggressively because a loss or a draw is effectively the same result.

T20 is more exciting for a new comer. Hit out or get out strategy. The game finishes in 3 hours because there is 120 balls to play

Too dominant if you want to see competitive games.

Who wants to see one sided boring ganes. 😅

Follow on just makes sense. I see no advantage or disadvantage either...its simply a time saving method. no reason to play 1-2 days of extra games unless the losers make a comeback. So give them their comeback chance first, then do the extra games if needed. They should always do this...every match

@@diox8tony There actually is one big disadvantage - your pitchers' (bowlers') health. Sometimes their bodies just aren't going to be effective trying to pitch back-to-back innings, especially if the conditions are particularly hot. There may have also been some small injuries/cramps in one of your pitchers (teams usually have 4/5 in their 11-player team). If that's the case, you want to simply bat your turn so that while your main hitters are batting, the pitchers (with physios) have time to recover. Another potential reason not to enforce follow on is because of how certain times over the course of the 5 days can be easier/harder to bat. Most of the time, batting gets slightly harder as time goes on (day 1 easy-ish, day 5 hard-ish). There's heaps of nuance to this, but it's a decent general rule of thumb. I can also give one more specific example. There is a new scheduling of Test matches called Day-Night Tests. These start in the afternoon and end in the late evening (usually 2-9pm). Often, it's easiest to bat in the afternoon, and VERY challenging to bat at night. You may not want to enforce a follow on if it means the other team gets to use their best hitters during the afternoon when it's going to be easiest for them.

@@JdMaN211 Interesting point. MLB does have double headers and in the upcoming season the two games will revert back to nine innings. In recent times seven innings games have been the norm. Bear in mind that teams have several pitchers of various type on the playing roster and that when one pitches over a given number of deliveries he is then on a certain number of days' rest before next appearance. Pitch counts have been strictly enforced in juniors for decades.