Why the TVA is Different Deadpool & Wolverine!

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Will LOKI cameo in Deadpool 3? Erik Voss breaks down the visual differences between the TVA as it is depicted in the Loki series vs what they seem to be doing in Deadpool & Wolverine! Is Paradox’s department off-the-books in the TVA, unknown even to God of Stories Loki?
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@radiohostalastor 2 ай бұрын

I think it’s gonna be a different section of the TVA that was built after Loki saved everyone from being spaghetti

@j4m3sii 2 ай бұрын

what if the tva has different sectors for different universes, and the “fox universe” is collapsing and needs people to be saved from it ( for secret wars maybe?)

@Chudsic 2 ай бұрын

I think this is more likely, considering they showed wade clips from the "sacred timeline" mcu and not some alternate version.

@ashamedrepublican1224 2 ай бұрын

.makes sense

@bub-games 2 ай бұрын

Yeah. No kang? Loki's TVA?

@cyclonus_is_a_nerd 2 ай бұрын

Makes sense

@OhCarlJr 2 ай бұрын

In Loki S1, when Möbius shows Loki the TVA, that place looks massive. I can only assume there’s more different TVA divisions…

@samanthamaclean1430 2 ай бұрын

Agree

@MasterOfTheUniversebtw 2 ай бұрын

Fr nothing deeper than that

@SensationalSK 2 ай бұрын

@TheKASH303 2 ай бұрын

Different look and feel it's his rebuild. Who's mobius clone?

@direct_dan7578 2 ай бұрын

Kinda agree

@pedrorodriguez9607 2 ай бұрын

It's just an upgraded suit. I think this will be a big nothing burger when the movie drops. Outfits change all the time. I'm also one of the "Theres only 1 TVA for all realities..."

@ironshoes1720 2 ай бұрын

I think the suit color change to red was decided just to allow Deadpool to make a joke by referencing the Star Trek grunts wearing red and destined to die in the episode (or movie in this instance).

@Hannah-wo9qf 2 ай бұрын

@@ironshoes1720they aren’t changed to red they are just a brighter orange

@150_asharifadhilaha2 Ай бұрын

or maybe the TVA who's rebel because they're disagree with Loki's visions and their purpose was to erase the multiverse

@ironshoes1720 Ай бұрын

@@Hannah-wo9qf Maybe my color settings are playing tricks on me. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Honestly I still see them as reddish, but whatever. Hope you'll enjoy the movie. 🙂👍🏻

@Hannah-wo9qf Ай бұрын

@@ironshoes1720 I think it might be worth looking into! Same to you, it should be a really good time.

@Juggtacula 2 ай бұрын

Maybe the orange circles on the chest plates are body cams? With a more caring and forgiving TVA, they could use them to make sure the officers are acting appropriately and within company guidelines since now they can't just prune whatever timeline they want and stuff.

@joenciso364 2 ай бұрын

Good eye m8

@Grayves_X 2 ай бұрын

Yep that's exactly what I was thinking

@CtrlAltCreate92 2 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly, right on

@M32Mirach 2 ай бұрын

I thought that, but then the lack of "badge numbers" and the hidden faces also says something different about how they operate. Who knows if it is supposed to mean anything at all

@TheRadtrooper230 2 ай бұрын

These camera's likely are used to police the police, but more likely to act as evidence against arrestee. "Anything you say or do..."

@KincaidBlackwood 2 ай бұрын

In e1s1 of LOKI, Mobius tells Loki that Nightmare is a different department from his. So this might also be just a department in the TVA that Mobius *does* know about and he just doesn't much deal with. Like, it doesn't necessarily have to be some off-the-books section of the TVA as much as it's just a different department in an impossibly large bureaucracy.

@shadow_collector8488 2 ай бұрын

Same here. Just commented close to the same thing. Agree.

@teflondawn 2 ай бұрын

you might be onto something… kinda like a deli worker and someone from the clothing dept in the same walmart probably won’t have much interaction, if any

@401Orishas 2 ай бұрын

Nailed it

@davidh3823 2 ай бұрын

I think the masked TVA agents are only masked so Deadpool/Wolverine/who ever can kill random agents without the audience getting too attached to them. Also, less CGI would be needed.

@Naptosis 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, otherwise people would start to think about Wolvie and DP dicing scores of actual people that can't really hurt them at all.

@Pit_Wizard 2 ай бұрын

The Kevin robot was a gag that is never coming back. There is no way they go forward with that bad joke as the ultimate arbiter of the multiverse.

@joenciso364 2 ай бұрын

Dam kevbot 😠

@user-xp3mn9we3m 2 ай бұрын

Yeah these KZfaq channels dive way, WAY too deep into KEVIN therorys.

@M32Mirach 2 ай бұрын

The arbiter of "The Platform" maybe.

@pinaka5461 2 ай бұрын

People really think Kevin ai is a joke😂😁😁 it's like saying Zola algorithm is not a real world thing.

@TheAmazingCrazyguy75 2 ай бұрын

Imo that was such a mistake doing that scene.

@jackcroteau4105 2 ай бұрын

I think that they just might be a different faction of the TVA like a swat team who deals with more aggressive variants so they need more aggressive looking armour

@sarahhachadourian3365 2 ай бұрын

the note about the hair is sending me 😂

@etetgg1364 2 ай бұрын

I don't really believe there are multiple versions of the TVA. As for why the suits are different- there could be many reasons. Either those are updated suits (we've seen updated suits in season 2), alternate suits for another division, to maybe they're simply suits that were recreated for the movie (so it would be an out-of-universe thing).

@jeremymorris345 2 ай бұрын

Logically, there shouldn't be as the TVA was only formed to hide 616 from other universes. However, it's possible a different Kang had a similar idea to 616. Maybe the Kang in the X-Men universe had that same idea.

@rypulliam 2 ай бұрын

Having a scene with Deadpool, Wolverine, and Loki would be very cool and seemingly in line with the narrative crossover. Crossing my fingers.

@samanthamaclean1430 2 ай бұрын

I know that would be so awesome

@mishking9547 2 ай бұрын

I stan the wild uncombed hair :D

@iBLIV 2 ай бұрын

I'm leaning more to it being a Disney+ snap reference - I mean he even throws his remote/whatever is in his hands in a motion like the swoosh does above the plus.

@sillywillyog 2 ай бұрын

ive been wondering about this thank you!

@rockz6013 2 ай бұрын

Imagine if there’s a random scene where Deadpool breaks the fourth wall and the camera pans to Loki and he’s just like “why are you always talking to me?”

@BillAdams-fb3jm 2 ай бұрын

For what it's worth, camouflage that is patterned in colors like orange tends to be referred to as "urban camo" which is funny because deer hunters tend to wear solid, unpatterned orange so other hunters, but deer and turkeys are unable to see/differentiate it from other things.

@moondevell 2 ай бұрын

The TVA is huge. It'd be silly of anyone to think we saw the only department in such a big organisation. This could be happening simultaneously with the latest developments in Loki.

@joshuafranqui2702 2 ай бұрын

The chest lens may be a camera or more likely a temporal scanner that can display in the visors.

@TheRayvolution 2 ай бұрын

This feels like higher budget wardrobe. Remember the Borg costume in TNG vs First Contact?

@robinw2096 2 ай бұрын

10:03 prisoner 24601 is also a nod to hugh jackman being valjean in les miserable and a massive staple of musical theater overall

@CaptainJack2048 2 ай бұрын

This is fun, and I'm fully on board with this kind of speculation, but we need to keep at top of mind that Marvel has a history of putting stuff in trailers that isn't in the movie (or is different in the movie). Can't you just hear Deadpool looking at the camera and saying, "Well, now, this wasn't THAT way in the trailer. Darn, that was gonna be good".

@ShaqTown 2 ай бұрын

I think the void looks different because Casandra Nova has control over Alaith... which then clears the sky

@SebbStrife 2 ай бұрын

Loving and appreciate Erik's dad hair!

@thewraithe6575 2 ай бұрын

Lol the hair looks so funny 😅

@j4m3sii 2 ай бұрын

what if the tva has different sectors for different universes, and the “fox universe” is collapsing and people need to be saved from them because they will be needed in the future (secret wars)

@SuperSifl 2 ай бұрын

Maybe all those images on the TVA screens are just placeholders. Maybe they'll be different at release

@lordofninjas1 2 ай бұрын

That definitely could be the case.

@NarutoSasukeborutokawakigoku 2 ай бұрын

That would be a crazy twist because if we were to go off of what was said regardless of kang or he who remains being a big play now because of the legal situation stupid! But he who remains said every moment you’ve every been is because he was the only one at the end of time which would imply that there’s a possibility that would looking a different universes timeline and I also think that’s the case because at the end of Loki it looked like there wasn’t really ranking more like everyone working together to accomplish one goal the survival of the multiverse!

@burnsyladdd 2 ай бұрын

Was Wade crying just before he answered the door to the TVA? Kinda looks like there's a tear under his eye when he answers the door

@etetgg1364 2 ай бұрын

No, he wasn't.

@martinnarvaez9228 2 ай бұрын

The tva in the void could be previously pruned agent

@curtcurt74 2 ай бұрын

I feel like this TVA with Paradox will be a rogue version with Renslayer

@joenciso364 2 ай бұрын

TVA wars

@curtcurt74 2 ай бұрын

@@joenciso364 Facts 🤣

@ltils9081 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see a cheeky little interaction between Loki and Deadpool! Also just to see whether Loki can actually leave his throne. I'm curious about that.

@rossanderson5815 2 ай бұрын

If the TVA has changed to pruning Kang's then it's safe to assume they would have a more aggressive minutemen. I think this is just changes that Loki or Obi or the judges have put in place over time.

@ToliverKnoxThomasIV 2 ай бұрын

That’s exactly what i was thinking - i was wondering too if the TVA that actually yanked him through the Time Door is a different one that knocked on his home door (haven’t watched the vid yet, not sure if he covered this, just my thought)

@ahchiu9 2 ай бұрын

Ha! I thought the messy hair was on purpose as it came immediately after the ragged Valjean

@32275005 2 ай бұрын

I think there are two different factions of the TVA. Why did he grab Deadpools hair if they are taking him to the same place?

@Pardcore 2 ай бұрын

Honestly the no combed hair fits your personality 😂

@Ignorant_Art 2 ай бұрын

MY TVA HELMET LMAOOOO I LOVE YOU

2 ай бұрын

It would be cool for Wade to reference Paradox with the song Que passa Paradox.

@samanthamaclean1430 2 ай бұрын

That’s what I thought for the reason why their uniforms were different, because this is a different division of the TVA one we didn’t see Loki maybe they’re like the mega police and I do hope we get to see Loki or Mobius in the movie just for a small cameo

@ricardobalboajr.6573 2 ай бұрын

Lmao the hair

@user-zs9ly9ps5l 2 ай бұрын

I am so excited for Deadpool and Wolverine this summer

@riickyworld1 2 ай бұрын

You will be disappointed because it’s not for this summer 🤣.

@chrisbeaudoin1852 2 ай бұрын

I feel like the tva with the pruning sticks and the one who pulled him through the time door are opposing factions of the tva

@bontzie 2 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing and could track well with other scenes of the trailer where he's fighting the masked TVA troops but would also be there helping another department in a "classified" CIA like role.

@andrewignasky1445 2 ай бұрын

oh yay.... another video about this trailer

@martinsi953 2 ай бұрын

I like Erik´s hair :D

@cjperry2731 2 ай бұрын

I was wondering if maybe there are different TVA's and maybe they're at odds with each other or are somehow enemies or have different goals or purposes..

@audricbudiarto 2 ай бұрын

it either different section of TVA.. because as we see in Loki.. there is a whole city for TVA.. or.. because there is branch now.. there could be other multiverse continuity just like Rick and Morty where Evil Morty goes too

@foxos7776 2 ай бұрын

I mean I instantly thought it was a different tva since it’s a different universe, I would imagine they don’t span across the multiverse since they’re just time cops. People tend to use the tree with multiple branches being different timelines. And the way I always envisioned it is that if you extend that tree into a forest then each tree is a different universe. Whether that’s wrong or right I like that view enough to prolly use it in my own stories.

@sillywillyog 2 ай бұрын

its not the fact that its wrong but the fact that it just makes no sense. the tva is outside of time, outside of the mutliverse like the watcher. theres not one for every universe because they dont exist in a universe

@connorcrossland6007 2 ай бұрын

The tva isn’t in all the universes it’s not in any universe essentially it’s beyond them seeing them all

@offlineraided 2 ай бұрын

TVA exists outside of time, it's not a different TVA

@connorcrossland6007 2 ай бұрын

@@offlineraided best way to put it

@gbozzi05_ 2 ай бұрын

The TVA. Exists. Outside. Of the Multiverse. It’s not that hard to understand.

@LelandMGrayer 2 ай бұрын

Hair looking crazy wild 😮

@cordellrush7077 2 ай бұрын

The movie looks good can’t wait

@jimramos2613 2 ай бұрын

Same 👍

@eliechaya9690 2 ай бұрын

Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤

@jon-paulmcgowan6589 2 ай бұрын

The dots on the TVA uniforms look like they could be Chest Cams.

@bjarniheinze3675 2 ай бұрын

i think those small orange circels on the armore are like build in body cams or something.

@treyvvz 2 ай бұрын

Good video

@pedrorodriguez9607 2 ай бұрын

It's a 13 min video that was uploaded 3 mins ago... wtf

@taikairyu3184 2 ай бұрын

@newrockstars Deadpool joins the TVA in the Deadpool and Cable Split Second comic. Very interesting stuff in there

@i_slapped_a_t_rex6881 2 ай бұрын

Small detail I like is how they hid a X in the TVA Logo on the TV in front of Wade and Paradox.

@NicoleTaylorSoprano 2 ай бұрын

I think that hole on the front of the TVA guards is a body camera.

@AndrewForte-rh6kx 2 ай бұрын

Bingo. That makes perfect sense.

@joshfactor1 2 ай бұрын

this does bring up an interesting point, though. since this is a film, not a series, would dp not be able to break out of the mcu & get into the real world until the deadpool three hits disney plus?

@ericajackson9750 2 ай бұрын

8:51 it looks like we're going to have a moment like that if Loki S2 where Loki prunes himself

@xeventhsoul 2 ай бұрын

It might be possible that the 24601 is the original planned release date for deadpool and wolverine 24/6/01 or basically july 1st 2024 since it is slated for July 2024

@lokilover1315 2 ай бұрын

I hope we get to see Loki.

@babyjohnnyfrostrobertson5473 2 ай бұрын

It could be that instead of pruning, they send nexus beings into alternate timelines to change the timelines to be accurate.

@J.O.R.D 2 ай бұрын

1:55 something Ms Minutes related? Like a smaller built in version

@edboymovies 2 ай бұрын

The looks byKang and Loki look more like distant starres than looking into the camera

@A.j.Harris 2 ай бұрын

Those little circles in the middle of the chest plate are cameras.

@TroyLewis-js9mp 2 ай бұрын

Prisoner 24601 is a call back to Hugh Jackman's character in the movie les miserables👍

@Ashlego 2 ай бұрын

It will most likely be more armor to protect them from Knag since their now hunting his variants. This could also be because Wade is bigger threat than the likes of Loki since he is a Nexus Being

@tannerrobeson188 Ай бұрын

If the void is where people who got eaten by Alioth go, I hope we see the old version of Loki again. He was awesome

@modeazybonsai4403 2 ай бұрын

There’s something about Mary bangs are amazing.

@rezzylee2385 2 ай бұрын

Cuz Loki in our movie world controls the movie universes to a D+ degree and who really knows what is going on. Lol love the videos guys!❤

@whomilloo 2 ай бұрын

OR…it’s an entirely separate TVA for the FOX X-Men multiverse. now that Loki has integrated the Yggdrasil version of the MCU (which was previously isolated by HWR) back into the greater multiverse/megaverse, not only can other Kangs access in but also other TVA’s. however, the Void and Alioth might be some sort of nexus zone so there’s only one shared by all Kangs & TVA’s

@agonforreal 2 ай бұрын

Theyre definitely different from hunters like B-15. Those hunters pruned timelines while these guys were sent to kidnap (for lack of a better term) Wade. I think theyre more of a special forces

@Noah-i-have-your-boah 2 ай бұрын

Did anyone notice that in the first group of tve people the 3 people in the back didnt have that jem that was on the 1 leading persons top chestplate????

@user-mi2ps1ho4l 2 ай бұрын

The thing on the orange he thinks is camo kinda looks like comics

@lordofninjas1 2 ай бұрын

It's an interesting idea of it being a different division of the TVA, it makes sense as to why things are different and such. That said, I wonder if it might be something else. Recently I've been going through X-Men: the Animated Series in preparation for X-Men '97, and the other day I got to the Mojo episode. By the end of that episode I started to wonder if the reason the TVA and Void and such is different for Deadpool 3 is because it's a version of it created by Mojo, but when designing the sets and everything Mojo got the jist of it but didn't get everything exactly right. Mojo would bring Deadpool in not because of his "Nexus Being" status or whatever, but because he knows Deadpool teaming up with Wolverine and crossing over with the Fox Universes will be good for his ratings and everything. It would be sort of a meta commentary on media companies of today.

@Hannah-wo9qf 2 ай бұрын

They could have just updated their uniform. Before the TVA was all about pruning, but now they are protecting the multiverse from threats. So perhaps they have become more combat ready, and also dropped the numeric designations to allow the variants to identity as variants. Obviously them being just another decision makes sense too, but the TVA evolving now they aren’t under He Who Remains’ control also makes sense.

@TheRabbitRonin 2 ай бұрын

2:00 could be a body camera?

@karenbecker6751 2 ай бұрын

What X-Men should I watch before this Deadpool? I've seen the first 3 and Logan (maybe others?). None of the "younger X-Men" films. I appreciate input. (And of course I've seen the first 2 Deadpools)

@imwiththeunderhills2128 2 ай бұрын

If I understood you right, Id say watch First Class, Days of Future Past, then Apocalypse. In my opinion, the first two I named are good. Last one…meh. Might as well watch it though. Theres also Dark Phoenix but…I thought that was awful.

@jazzyjas2189 2 ай бұрын

@newrockstars What if he is the department "nightmare" in the TVA. Check out at 19 min 30 second mark. It sounds like a more aggressive/arrogant type department that even mobius would like to see burn down.

@vulephong787 2 ай бұрын

I really think that this TVA is a safe net that HWR set up if things doesnt go to plan to restore some version of HWR. They hire DP to restore the OG timeline that we all know just because DP is kind of nexus being. The first arc will be DP restore the OG timeline but then the 2nd arc will be with Woverine and try to stop this secret TVA and create the chaos lead to Avenger 5

@fin1199 2 ай бұрын

Eric’s hair has gone half Wolverine!

@InternetSado 2 ай бұрын

the hair is goated

@Marvelousgamer7697 2 ай бұрын

I think Loki has made some serious changes since he's become God of Stories and hero of the TVA! 👀

@michaelhorwitz7933 2 ай бұрын

What’s going on with dead pool and wolverine??? What’s going on with your hair 😂😂

@AdRoK 2 ай бұрын

The Void is Battleworld. It’s pruned patches of multiverse. Deadpool is probably being sent there to get someone and bring them back to the TVA. To resolve whatever. Or something like that.

@Jdizzle0667 2 ай бұрын

Do we know when this movie takes place in the timeline? Bc it could just simply be that it takes place in between season 1 and 2 of Loki, when the TVA was split, and each universe has their own TVA sector, and this is just the Fox universe TVA. I may be wrong, but I think the whole "each universe having it's own sector of TVA within the entirety of the TVA" thing is correct

@jonleehk 2 ай бұрын

Where’s Josh’s song. Can’t we get a live version

@johnnywashington8270 2 ай бұрын

It could be the Beyonder or Dr Doom that controls that sub branch of the TVA that arrested Deadpool

@user-mv3gs4qc2x 2 ай бұрын

I like this. I can see the antagonist ruling the next level of the void and the one who made alioth, not kang. Deadpool tries to saves everyone who is traped under the antagonists mind, maybe this where all the cameos will come from all the other movies, and maybe jokes about the movies that die in development hell go here to this level of the void as well. The end will have deadpool and wolverine as friend and this wolverine gets to go to his dream timeline where i could see wade thinking hes going to this awesome time line to fight but really to be off doing wolverine on broadway , wade swearing but mcu leave it in and even suprising wade, and maybe helping to set up secret wars too. 😅

@NH-jz1il 2 ай бұрын

Do you think Hydra Bob will make an appearance since it looks like he is heading to the “hydra” era of the MCU?

@nwkborn99 2 ай бұрын

I think they’re going warring factions within the tva. Maybe one side is sent by Loki to recruit Deadpool for the upcoming secret wars and the other side is aware of Lokis plan and trying to take out his recruits before he gets to them

@eddiestan3674 2 ай бұрын

LOL, he named it Prisoner 24601 (Hugh Jackman's prisoner number in Les Miserables). 😭

@christopherfascenelli2454 2 ай бұрын

Could this be a previous iteration of the TVA? We do know that He Who Remains wiped everyones memories, could it be before the current iteration?

@christopherfascenelli2454 2 ай бұрын

Also, I think the void may look the way that it does where alioth lives because it's a waypoint for the trash and discarded of the universe. Alioth is drawn to this place a protector but maybe there's something about it's energy that it feeds on. Outside of this area it might just look more like it does in the deapool trailer

@BrandonDudley-pr6cv 2 ай бұрын

Kang are one of his variants are still in control!

@burneyboys02 2 ай бұрын

If this is set after Loki S2, then perhaps the TVA was recently given upgrades now that Loki is watching the timeline and the management has changed.

@zmanvisuals 2 ай бұрын

It is definitely a different TVA the only time we see the only time icons is in the time keepers room we see the door two times only in season 1 the sword going down has something to do with kang but I don’t know quite yet

@Kolnerbigblue 2 ай бұрын

Could this be the equivalent of MI-5?

@Jilocoknight 2 ай бұрын

Look at you still excited by the MCU. So adorable. 😂

@AnthonyBuddyPace 2 ай бұрын

Yeah i think this TVA is like a marvel studios TVA with anything related to marvel studios and Deadpool will have to help paradox fix the timeline from fox, and marvel studios

@joewyatt2269 2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure we've ever established if there's only one TVA for all universes or if there's a different TVA in each universe. I'm going with this being an entirely different TVA rather than a division.

@jeremymorris345 2 ай бұрын

The whole point of the TVAs creation was to hide the Sacred Timeline 616 from other universes. Therefore, the TVA only watches 616. It's possible that a different Kang from a different Universe, let's say 838, for example, made their own TVA to fulfill a similar purpose. That's why the TVA in Deadpool 3 is different. It's a completely different universes.