Brian clough... football is so much poorer without him

Legend

He never got offered the job because he wasn't a yes man.

@@andrewh5457Tell us something we don't know!

@@alanwhite7912 snails can sleep upto 3 years. Bet you didn't know that.

@@andrewh5457 I didn't know that...👍

looking back at Bobby Robson in 86 and 90 ,,,,, very very close = although Clough was likely past his best by both those WCs

Tell me about it

When he was around chelsea were getting bought for a pound

@@ryangarcha2347 I’d try an have a conversation with you but as my comment an cloughie says speaking to u lot is hard work 😓

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I think he was a fascinating character anyway, without the football. DUncan Hamilton's "Provided You Don't Kiss Me" is worth a read. Very poignant but some funny moments too. The book starts with Clough banning him from the club.

are the books any good? i've never thought to check for his books lol, but i sure as hell will now

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He certainly had Anderson's measure ...

Brian Clough was a 1 off. He should've been Sir Brian Clough.

Possibly 2 or 3 out of 4 - '78, '82, '90 '98 (I know we never qualified for '78 but this shit is hypothetical) Would have been possibly at least 10 different names in each of the 4 squads and a completely different style of play - i.e not petrified of the opposition and everyone told to go out and express what they were best at. We are still in the same position with Southgate. We also were the same under Venables. Le Tiss would have been the player Clough built the team around then....like Spain did with the great Iniesta. Le Tiss was better than him! We have always been reticent to play the mavericks. Imagine if Frank Worthington had been Italian.....first name on the sheet. Harry Redknapp was our last chance as far as I can see.

Yes, he was a master of all that, a real natural showman. Well, much more than a showman of course, but he could doubtless have made a living in entertainment or broadcasting quite apart from football.

Jason Caddick people wonder where Roy Keane gets it from

@@saab2906 Very good point. I hadn´t made the connection before. Obviously had a certain father-figure influence on Keane, now that you mention it.

He'd never succeed in modern football...great for his time though

@@jonjohnson1978. No he wouldn’t, but that tells you something about today’s society and mentality.

He once punched Roy Keane in the dressing room after he kept playing the ball back to the keeper. Keane just sucked it up and took it whereas nowadays Clough would’ve been sacked and there’d be an internal investigation and multiple club statements.

Thank God

@@alantainty1903 get back in your cave

@@iohnxxxx LOL, truth hurts :)

notts county to the core but what a great manager and wonderful man brian clough was

Loved it that much, mr Demmers, he fd/off to Nottingham. Do hope it's improved since i was last there, albiet 30 years a go.

Well said

yes. one man has character... the other... is the little dweeb who is trying to provoke belittle & criticise...

@@mark.lawrence That is the format of the show

@@user-xo4mg2ij3t correct

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indeed. anderson made himself look like a disrespectful tool

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Well put. I actually thought Anderson was a bit disrespectful during the interview trying to get a rise out of Brian. In fairness to Clough he tells it like it is regardless of who he offends. Sadly, he wouldn't be received well these days but what a man!

@@rosshaugh7937 and frankly not should he......snacking random people is idiotic and likely wouldn't of gone well for him in 2022

@@jonjohnson1978. regardless of that, he spoke his mind, was honest and pragmatic to the end.

@@jonjohnson1978. During that time, he had severe alcoholic issues.

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legend & truth speaker!

Called makeup

He's not drunk here. Listen to how clear he's speaking.

I seriously thought it was at least 5 or 6 years later til he mentioned George Graham

he does look better

A year later or earlier your lost

E.T. Wash your bloody mouth out "young man" Don't ever call us "Notts"... we are either Nottingham Forest, Nottm Forest, or just simply Forest. Just thought I'd clear that up for ya "OK" 👂🏼✋🏼

@@forestranger5408 Duly noted, original comment rightly amended.. Lol 👍

@@e.t.2604 Nice one, very decent of you👍🏼COYR

@@e.t.2604 as cloughie would say ‘Now give us a kiss’ lol

I am a Gateshead lad who supports Sunderland but I always like to see if Forest are doing well. I have a couple of their shirts.

i don't think our Brian thought so highly of the yank

Yank? No yank here.

So true. Cloughie was a staunch Labour man but can you imagine what he`d make of the party today? I often wonder what he`d have to say about all these soppy little woke warriors that have hijacked left wing politics. They`d have a complete fucking meltdown every time he came on the box.

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Caked in make up

​@@petermernagh9991There's always one 🙄

It's a lovely accent. You're spot on. Michael Sheen was incredible as Brian.

If theres only one thing we can agree on, it's that Clough is a legend.

Once a century more like

He's not like you and I, particularly handsome. He was hilarious Brian wasn't he. His one liners are second to none here. Always having a bit of a gossip about someone but makes it sound so funny.🤣

He was occasionally to be found sitting in the (i think his) newsagents on central avenue which was always a bit odd! 😄 Think his son still owns it.

Always thought there was a resemblance, at least visually between the two men

Yes you would

Adam Glasgow to be fair you would say that.... not saying we would have won a World Cup but you are probably ‘slightly’ bias.

@@adamglasgow9268 🤣 Spoken by, a true jock! Who's team will never ever be in a final..... let alone 'WIN' it ⭐🖕🏽😂

Totally overrated as a Manager. Lost all respect for him with his comments about Hillsborough.

@@chrisconnelly7411 Over-rated, what planet are you on ?!!!!

As a Scot I've said for years Football Snobbery at FA owe every England fan an apology for not allowing who would've been most successful England World Cup winning manager ever Clough I believe would've gotten England to regular World Cup Final .Don Revie couldn't lace Brians boots .Table off Football Masters has Busby Stein Shankly Clough & Taylor making the brew.

Uninformed bollocks.

No, what stops it being true is simply that there is no evidence that any of it happened the way he said, and LOADS of evidence that it happened differently. The stubborn stupidity required to persist with Clough's bullsh*t version of what happened is amazing. And you have that amazing stupidity in truckloads clearly. He said Liverpool fans turned up late. They didn't, the people involved in the crush were all there well before the 2:45pm arrival time advised on the tickets. He said Liverpool fans were drinking in pubs when they should have got in earlier. They weren't, the alcohol intake was found to be unusually low for a Cup semi-final day. He said Forest fans got in early and with no signs of disorder. They didn't, and there were. There was a minor crush outside the Kop end of the ground around 2:35pm, and a gate was opened at that end to let scores of Forest fans in to lower the pressure. (Source: WPC Debra Martin.) He thought lots of fans were ticketless. They weren't. Subsequent analysis of the CCTV footage and the records of the stadium admissions system found that the attendance on the day roughly matched the ticket allocation. What ignoramuses like you - and indeed Clough at the time - don't get is that there was a bottleneck at the West end of the stadium, a serious one that had caused major delays to the starts of various semi-finals played at Hillsborough over the previous ten years. All the Liverpool fans had just 23 turnstiles to enter the stadium through, all of them crammed into a narrow concourse about 30 metres across on the corner of Leppings Lane. Just SEVEN of those turnstiles were the only access point for the entire terrace - 10,100 spectators - below the West Stand. The Forest fans had SIXTY turnstiles, spread thinly across the South and East stands. Clough was an asshole, crude, insensitive, sporadically racist, obstinate and bullying. But in fairness to him, even he admitted a couple of years later that he'd got this badly wrong. It's not just a matter of 'diplomacy,' it never was with him. What matters is that what he said was NOT ACCURATE. He didn't bother learning the real facts until later. It's clear you don't know them either, but why stand by the fake version when even Clough himself later rejected it?

Totally idiotic comment, an only 4 months ago, when ALL Liverpool fans have been cleared of ANY wrongdoing #Nobhead

Thanks for adding that much needed context. That part of an otherwise brilliant interview has aged badly.

Shit that he said this, though.

Its not, what he said was the truth. It's a tragic incident but there was only Liverpool fans there.

@tweedlio2763 "What he said was the truth"? Really? You ought to be ashamed of that comment, given the Hillsborough families unwavering and dignified quest to disprove such insights.

@@chrisbayes2972 well, since no one was eventually charged, everyone were acquitted, so it seems the courts feel they weren't to blame? It might not be concur with your opinion though

Genius

He was also a Scotsman!

Brilliant

What would Clough have done with England?

@@SteRDLK probably won a trophy

@@karl1091 England's selectable players were atrocious at the time. He'd have done fuck all.

I agree! Clough looked much more healthier and youthful here than he did even a year before this

i went 2 a lot of footy in the 70/80s n it WAS an accident waiting to happen ,too many people allowed i with no tickets- turnstile operators always took cash for a pay day ,not like that went 2 the clubs .It happened week in week out at old trafford wembley klanfield all over the show . Cut to 1999 watching Blackburn v man city - from a field next to ewood park cos the fuckin best view[point ( a tree) all the tickets were sold for that ! :D we had a commentator in that tree,motty he was not! but brians right you can see there was an issue n no one backed off they kept pushing more people in cos thats what footy fans did

Ray thanks for your comments You sound like a sensible chap

Ever heard of a guy called Alex Ferguson? Clearly not.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Even when talking about Hillsborough?

@@georgevanderbyl7519 He was spot on about Hillsborough!!

@@forestranger5408 A Rangers fan pipes up. I guess your fans were responsible for the Ibrox disaster too then?

He did subsequently apologise once he had all the facts.

Not sure if you were there or not but i can tell you that as a 14 year old kid outside that corner of the ground, it was the most scary experience of my life. The behaviour of a certain element was totally disgusting. It's no longer popular to say what one thinks but I know what I saw.

Joanna Green : I know. Brian was so naturally funny. Marvellous character. Marvellous humour.