NFL Obscure Rules #1 (RARE Moments)

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@Superkuh2 Жыл бұрын

"Protect the quarterbacks, yeah, but don't take the game away like that." - Madden words as applicable now as back then.

@bethesdagamer7971 Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand what the foul was for that play

@falcon1378 Жыл бұрын

@@bethesdagamer7971 it’s a really stupid old roughing call. Thankfully it’s been replaced with modern day (still bad but better) roughing rules. Basically, if a defensive player has their arms around the quarterback/“has control of the quarterback” as the old rule states, the ball is dead and the qb is ruled sacked. The reason why it sucked is because you can’t throw out of a sack, something quarterbacks like Russel Wilson and Patrick Mahomes are known for and are praised for it. It takes away what would be called a heads up play and replaces it with mindless statistics and weird numbers. It’s like if an NBA official called Damian Lillard’s stepback game winner a travel before he even started the motion because he thought he was about to travel, or calling a homerun ball foul because you think it’s about to go foul. It’s like saying a serve is a fault because it looked like it came out his hand weird. It’s like saying someone is offside in association soccer because they were running too fast.

@pronkb000 Жыл бұрын

@@bethesdagamer7971 It wasn't a foul--if the quarterback was "in the grasp" of the defender the ball was dead and the play was ruled a sack. Technically the rule still exists, but you have to really be wrapped up for them to call it. In the late '80s and early '90s they were blowing plays dead at the drop of a hat.

@mariospizzaandwinebar Жыл бұрын

Heehee

@slicingonions4398 Жыл бұрын

@@falcon1378 thanks for the all the examples lol I get it now

@bioLarzen Жыл бұрын

Gotta love how the ref say @ 2:31 "Washington may not call consecutive timeouts" - like this rule specifically applied to that one team only :D

@thickgirlsneedlove2190 Жыл бұрын

Gooood teams ass anyways

@brianarbenz1329 Жыл бұрын

It's part of that anti-Washington sentiment out in the country.

@eauhomme Жыл бұрын

0:39 I remember when the "In the Grasp" rule existed. Horrible how many plays were nullified because the quarterback was basically touched by a defender. Jerry Markbreit, one of the all-time greatest officials, called it here, but I'm sure he hated the rule as much as the rest of us.

@xytrius8194 Жыл бұрын

Im glad you made this comment because I heard it as “In the Grass” and I was super confused

@eauhomme Жыл бұрын

@@xytrius8194 Basically, if the quarterback was in the process of getting tackled, they considered him to be down. It was a severely misguided attempt to protect quarterbacks from injury. Quarterbacks could scramble but they really couldn't break tackles. You'd see touchdowns get called back, turning 6 points into a 10-yard loss because the defense didn't have to make a real tackle.

@jeffmalinoff2836 Жыл бұрын

What a bullshit rule, so many iconic plays would have been ruled dead because of the rule.

@QBAN2010 Жыл бұрын

Loved seeing the refs in their classic unis! The ones they have now make them look less decisive. I miss Markbreit, Gene Tunny, Red Casion! They were more emphatic back then, even when calling a field goal good or signaling first down! And goal line plays, it has become impossible to find an official to signal touchdown. It’s like they are all waiting for some one else to call it. In my humble opinion, refs look scared these days. Replay has not been their friend!

@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 Жыл бұрын

And when it was in effect, it wasn't an obscure rule. It was just a hated one.

@LibraSnakeLibraSnake1018 Жыл бұрын

The point of the Ravens dropkick was to get the returner to call for a fair catch. If a fair catch is called no time runs off the clock on the kick, and since the clock was at 2:01 that means the 2 minute warning would stop the clock after 1st down. If the Chiefs had returned the kick, the 2 minute warning would have come after the kickoff when the clock would be stopped anyway. By doing this the Ravens effectively saved themselves 40 seconds for a potential game-winning drive if they prevented the Chiefs from getting a first down.

@frozenlightthequietviking489 Жыл бұрын

It should've been called for a false start after the first drop. The second was an illegal kick, as a drop kick is only immediately after it strikes the ground.

@vitesse_arnhem 8 ай бұрын

@@frozenlightthequietviking489Perhaps, perhaps not. But illegal kicks in this instance would be dead ball fouls.

@birdnerd9437 6 ай бұрын

@@frozenlightthequietviking489 Which is correct, as the league did later determine after the game.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@frozenlightthequietviking489 You were allowed to falsely start a free kick play, and no time limit was specified on kicking the ball after it touches ground.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@birdnerd9437They didn't determine it, they made an office ruling.

@untexan Жыл бұрын

Goaltending in football was briefly a trend in the early 70s, when the goal posts were on the goal line. The Chiefs had a guy they were trying to make into a tight end named Morris Stroud. He was I think 6’10,” and they would put him near the goal post to try and block field goals if they were close enough to block. The NFL put a quick end to that.

@Namath1000 Жыл бұрын

Yes, I remember that. But I always thought it was legal as long as you didn't use the goal post itself for leverage.

@zachdamenti4387 Жыл бұрын

It is indeed illegal to deny history when it comes to field goals from 60+ yards!

@benherr9130 Жыл бұрын

This video: "Disconcerting signals." 2022: "Delay of game, making a move that's unneccessary and unlike...football."

@chrismartinez144 Жыл бұрын

Yeah that first one is called Goal tending Like in basketball

@chrismartinez144 Жыл бұрын

BTW as always nice video Savage

@Jwpro99 Жыл бұрын

it used to be legal though look up Morris Stroud

@chrissimmons9743 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but unlike in Basketball, it takes real skill and/or physical ability to successfully tend the goal, so the rule has no purpose in Football except to make the game more complicated and piss off fans.

@Aviii11 Жыл бұрын

Today I learned many rules that I didn't know existed

@Frankie-Bleddyn Жыл бұрын

And of course a couple of them weren't covered by rules at all. Just lucky plinks.

@kevinmoynihan5118 Жыл бұрын

3:48 I think it would be fun to bring this rule back. You used to be able to punt the ball whenever you wanted to but then some time in the 80s or 90s open field kicks were made illegal. Been looking for a while for when exactly that rule change happened and why.

@drvelocci Жыл бұрын

It’s still legal in Canadian football

@bunpeishiratori5849 Жыл бұрын

I got into an argument recently about this. I said that I thought it was legal to punt the ball past the line of scrimmage. And I was told that it was “never legal” to do so. I feel validated seeing this. I guess the rule changed and I missed it, but still it appears that I did learn the rules correctly when I was growing up.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

I don't remember exactly, but very close to 1990. Federation made it illegal first, then NCAA, then NFL. Return kicks were also outlawed, but the sequence was first NCAA, then NFHS, then NFL. Why? The only reason I recall given for any of those changes was Fed regarding return kicks: that rare plays like that make officials' errors more likely. I suppose the plays might've been considered too dangerous too.

@FadkinsDiet 4 ай бұрын

@drvelocci and there have been multiple games where the final snap had multiple punts by each team!

@redmustangredmustang Жыл бұрын

I always hated those In the Grasp plays. Where a QB could get out of a sack and like that Vikings play against the 49ers it changed the game.

@falcon1378 Жыл бұрын

I once got fouled for disconcerting an offensive cadence, one of those things you dont really forget.

@poisonpotato1 Жыл бұрын

Why is that a foul? Qb can clap his hands and shout to try and draw Def offsides but the defense can't do anything?

@skkkr5815 Жыл бұрын

@@poisonpotato1 yeah

@qwertyutopia4667 Жыл бұрын

@@poisonpotato1well technically the defense can also make calls what they can’t do is imitate the cadence of a qb. So for example if the defense calls “nascar, nascar” that’s all good. Even though nascar is an offensive call the defense can yell that to throw them off because it’s plausible that that’s a defensive call as well. What the defense explicitly can’t do is yell “set…hut hut” or things of that nature

@robertlucas859 Жыл бұрын

@@poisonpotato1 They can't try to deceive the O Line into thinking the QB called for the snap to draw a false start or early snap. Misdirection is a big part of football, but that kind of falls outside of the spirit of the game since the line isn't allowed to even twitch before the ball is snapped.

@Goatvarro Жыл бұрын

Wow finally clips I haven’t seen!

@jmr5125 Жыл бұрын

3:26 This play is no longer legal -- punting beyond the line of scrimmage is a foul very similar to a forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage (5 yards from the spot of the k8ck and loss of down).

@FryEmUp Жыл бұрын

maybe they ruled that the kicker was partially behind the line to make it a good kick?

@jmr5125 Жыл бұрын

@@FryEmUp No, there was a rule change, most likely for player safety. It's easy to imagine broken legs coming from a snap punt like that.

@aarongothmann7247 Жыл бұрын

In NCAA it is the only foul that causes the ball to become dead.

@MultisportOfficial Жыл бұрын

@@FryEmUp Nope. By rule, you're either behind the LOS, or beyond it. There is no "partially".

@kevinmoynihan5118 Жыл бұрын

@@jmr5125 I don’t think that’s why that happened. Wouldn’t be more dangerous than a hurdle attempt and I’ve never heard of such an injury ever happening. I’ve been trying to find exactly when and why that rule change happened but haven’t found much of anything. If that was why there be stories about a famous play with an injury to point to.

@FryEmUp Жыл бұрын

3:26 So wait... One foot in FRONT of the line disregards the ineligible receivers down field penalty, and one foot BEHIND the line makes the punt legal? Amazing!

@jonahrippeth5439 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Weird to see Fry here! Love ya dude

@andrewm6424 Жыл бұрын

It’s just like the Illegal Forward Pass rule. If even one part of the back foot of the Quarterback is behind the line of scrimmage when he releases the ball, the forward pass is legal. (Has to be the player who received the snap though to apply).

@daviddechamplain5718 Жыл бұрын

Back then you could punt past the line of scrimmage.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@andrewm6424But at that time there was no such rule regarding kicks. Until about 30 years ago in NFL rules, you could kick from beyond the line. However, a drop kick from beyond the line could not score a goal after about 40 years ago.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@andrewm6424 No, that last part is not true. The rule on where a forward pass can originate from is the same for all passers, and that's true in all codes, amateur & pro, American and Canadian.

@geekout1642 Жыл бұрын

I was surprised we didn’t get “Delay of game, number 55 on the defense, for making a move that is not necessary… um… football.”

@blondoband 3 ай бұрын

Best penalty has to be the “giving him the business” penalty

@burke615 Жыл бұрын

The "in the grasp" rule was so dumb.

@ShelLuser Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thanks for sharing! Yah, sometimes the rules are annoying but at the same time they more than often really help the experience as well. I'm not just a fan of a particular team but I also very much enjoy the sports as a whole. And yah, this was educational!

@BobLovesKaren Жыл бұрын

I love when the “freeze” timeout backfires. 😂

@whaduzitmatr Жыл бұрын

0:39 pretty sure they will call in the grasp still but not as quickly as they did there

@alanhorowitz3796 4 ай бұрын

Interesting stuff. Thanks very much for sharing.

@whaduzitmatr Жыл бұрын

Bengals did that mimicking the offense signals against the Cardinals once at the end of a game (2015 I believe) Cards I believe missed the long field goal but got another try after the penalty and made it to win

@deepcosmiclove 4 ай бұрын

In the old days you could "punt or kick the ball any time you wanted." They have sinced changed the rule. Very long ago some high school teams would receive the kickoff, run it back a short way and they punt; usually if they had the wind. You won't see that anymore.

@Xhadp Жыл бұрын

4:30 that ref is awfully close to the ball, could have easily gotten into the play if that was a fake FG attempt. The crooked goalpost will always show up in videos like this, it is inevitable.

@jamescarter8421 Жыл бұрын

Remember a penalty for crowd noise...??

@howie9751 4 ай бұрын

I remember when you used to be able to block a FG attempt on the way, but it may have been before the NFL moved the goal posts from the goal line to the back of the end zone. So the defender was not in the end zone, nor had any reason to be. But I still never heard of that rule til now.

@HobanWashburne Жыл бұрын

I don't think Cobb was trying to block that kick. I think he was trying to catch it in case it didn't hit the crossbar.

@EduardoNevesSilva Жыл бұрын

I'm with you. But I guess it goes like goaltending in basketball: once the player's hand goes over the crossbar, it's a penalty.

@90hjorth Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s pretty obvious to everyone except for whoever made this video

@HobanWashburne Жыл бұрын

@@EduardoNevesSilva Sure, it's a foul at that point. Not sure that happened in this instance though.

@thickgirlsneedlove2190 Жыл бұрын

Nope he tried to block it

@HobanWashburne Жыл бұрын

@@thickgirlsneedlove2190 I disagree.

@timhanna8130 Жыл бұрын

"In the Grasp" was one of the stupidest rules of the many stupid NFL rules.

@andrewdutler9249 Жыл бұрын

Whenever I hear the song Brain Damage by Pink Floyd I always sing “The lunatic is in the grasp” - thanks a lot 1980s NFL rules!!!

@jtconley7647 4 ай бұрын

I'd forgotten all about Deadpool playing QB for the Vikings among other teams in the 80's & 90's!!

@yourfamilydocter Жыл бұрын

Jimmy graham rule is hilarious I knew he dunked but I never saw him bend the goalpost. Also I didn’t know u could punt past the line of scrimmage

@levikatriel Жыл бұрын

Include Claymores vs Fire 1997 (Nfl Europe) for part 2.

@Shivaho 4 ай бұрын

Seems the NFLs Only Rule Now that Organized Gambling has Taken Over...is The House Always Wins!!!

@Hollowsmith Жыл бұрын

I sort of feel that if a player can leap high enough to block a field goal from barely going over the crossbar, the block should count. That would add a dramatic new element to long field goals. Put your tallest longest dude back there and basically try to rob the kicker like a home run ball being caught over the wall.

@chiefcretin5303 Жыл бұрын

Just seems unnecessary. I think this rule originally was made because people would get on pyramids to try and block the uprights

@bigpoppa1234 Жыл бұрын

They could copy what they do in Rugby Union, allow a player or two to lift another one high in to the air for the block.

@iode9999 Жыл бұрын

Sounds dumb. Maybe basketball players should also be allowed to block a shot after the ball is out of the hands and going into the basket as well 🙄

@slicingonions4398 Жыл бұрын

Nah they'd never go for that it wouldn't add a new dynamic it'd probably be 10 years before anyone was able to get the block

@flyguyry1 Жыл бұрын

Great xfl rule

@keithouderkirk7493 4 ай бұрын

kind of surprised the double punt wasnt in this video

@aplund Жыл бұрын

Such a strange game

@MilsurpMikeChannel 3 ай бұрын

In the Grasp was such a BS penalty. I remember KC losing a game against Denver because a Steve DeBerg TD pass was negated due to an in the grasp penalty.

@rudened1377 4 ай бұрын

I thought Madden was saying "In the grass" I was thoroughly confused before coming to the comments.

@alanvanasch4793 Жыл бұрын

Reminds me how the other day in the acc championship I think when the defense got flagged for a false start for disconcerting signals

@DracoFire3000 Жыл бұрын

How do the refs consistently get these obscure ass rules right but fail to understand what constitutes a horsecollar tackle or roughing the passer penalty?

@popcorn32145 Жыл бұрын

What's that in the grass clip? I don't understand.

@savagebricksports1 Жыл бұрын

in the grasp was the wrong call in that situation, i probably could’ve picked a better example. But, to put it simply, in the grasp means the defender has his hands around the quarterback so, even if the qb is able to get a pass off before being sacked, it still counts as a sack and the play ends there. It’s a dumb rule and I’m glad they got rid of it

@popcorn32145 Жыл бұрын

@@savagebricksports1 Ah I see, thanks for the reply. Doesn't make much sense as a rule so good thing its gone lol.

@ren-gz1wh Жыл бұрын

I'm not as an expert as Savage (appreciate all you posts btw) but from my under standing they've changed the rules and the player that was on the ground 'grasping' the QB can't do that anymore, you can't be on the ground and grab at the QB's legs, too dangerous for them to get leg/ankle injuries. So if this was a recent game, a penalty would have been called on the defender.

@rjhooper9226 Жыл бұрын

@@savagebricksports1 that rule is anti-football

@Frankie-Bleddyn Жыл бұрын

@@savagebricksports1 What is more important is that you just taught us it is in the grasp, not in the grass, as I have always thought it was in the grass, meaning that the quarterback was effectively down on the ground even if he got the pass off. Nope, it was like you said...in the grasp, which in a way, like you said...was a dumb rule in either interpretation of the word grass or grasp.

@loganstolberg2743 Жыл бұрын

Can someone explain the first one with Randall Cobb that didn’t get called?

@Grid56 4 ай бұрын

Disconcerting the offence, lol 😂. Unique use of English when applied to these 6ft plus behemoths ! I'm glad in the grasp (grass i thought he he ) has been dropped. With todays outstanding defences, the QB spends most of his throws in the grasp now.

@scottbogen1168 Жыл бұрын

Enjoying the Aphex Twin outros

@savagebricksports1 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! He's one of my favorite artists

@Rockhound6165 Жыл бұрын

How does the Tuck Rule not make this video?

@a-mizzlebeatz6395 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand what the penalty is @1:00 ???? In the grasp? Someone elaborate. I might be too new school. Are they trying to call the play dead insinuating he got sacked?

@stopmikeandjim3196 Жыл бұрын

"In the grasp" wasn't a penalty, it was a rule that once a defender had their arms around a passer, the play was instantly dead. It was supposed to prevent injuries to QB's.

@a-mizzlebeatz6395 Жыл бұрын

@@stopmikeandjim3196 Makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

@dr.johnnysins Жыл бұрын

You forgot doug flutie doing a drop kick for an extra point and the fair catch kick from Phil Dawson and others

@jeffthevideoguy23 4 ай бұрын

Assisting the runner? Isn't that now known as the "tush push?"

@MikeyKaos716 4 ай бұрын

Pulling the ball carrier forward had been illegal for a long time, if it even ever was legal. Pushing a ball carrier is legal now, but I believe it's a relatively new rule allowing it.

@Btester2 Жыл бұрын

0:57 did he say Wade Wilson? I didn't know Deadpool played football.

@JonesDylan874 Жыл бұрын

Wait, Brad Nessler did NFL calls as well? That's rare.

@johnm1008 Жыл бұрын

3:23 they should have made them kick the extra point before fixing the goalpost. His idiot teammate messed it up they should have to deal with the consequences.

@daviddechamplain5718 Жыл бұрын

That would be hilarious.

@chesscomsupport8689 4 ай бұрын

So an offensive lineman is allowed to push the runner from behind, but not pull him forward?

@fluoriteheals 3 ай бұрын

IN THE GRASS? WHAT?!

@Angelcynn_ Жыл бұрын

I forgot all about the in the grasp rule.

@BC_VORTEX_CHANNEL 3 ай бұрын

I know you don't like the "in the grasp" rule, but these quarterbacks today are so big and strong that it is hard for a defensive player to sack a quarterback. Plus, you cannot hit the quarterback high and you cannot hit the quarterback low. Then I saw a defensive back run full speed into the quarterback and got called for a penalty. They have to bring back "in the grasp" or it is impossible to play defense.

@crondawg101 Жыл бұрын

what exactly is the penalty called around 0:56. I understand the rule no longer exists. What was the rule?

@becpennington7470 Жыл бұрын

"In the Grasp" was a rule enacted to protect the QB, meaning the play was dead when the player holding the ball was considered to be in the grasp of the defender (actively being tackled and falling) and the potential of injury if the play continued was too great. However, the officials got so strict with their rulings that the play was often blown dead too early, and great plays were eliminated by not trusting the players to make something out of nothing.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

Actually the rule was "in the grasp AND CONTROL", which is not such a severe requirement, but the officials went easy on the "and control" part because the league enacted it to protect quarterbacks.

@beaudure01 Жыл бұрын

What was the rule on the goalposts?

@deannelson9565 Жыл бұрын

There wasn't one or is there now so why that video is the one that starts this video off is beyond me!

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@deannelson9565 Goaltending isn't allowed.

@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD Жыл бұрын

"Number 61 assisting the runner" isn't that what they are supposed to do? They never seen them push or pull to get those extra yards? Soon they are going to have it where the offense will just stand in place while the defense tackles the person with the ball.

@ryanstejskal1506 Жыл бұрын

Pushing from behind is generally allowed, but dragging the guy with the ball along like happened in this clip is illegal.

@pronkb000 Жыл бұрын

At some point "pushing the pile" was explicitly written into the rules as legal, but this play was definitely a foul.

@bodhi8260 Жыл бұрын

@@pronkb000 I was wondering about that.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@ryanstejskal1506 I think at the time of that video, pushing the runner from behind was still illegal too. It was outlawed in 1906, same year the forward pass was legalized, before the NFL existed.

@guitarboy4000000 Жыл бұрын

That bills skins game was the first game after sean taylor died too. They been disrespecting the memory of this man since the beginning

@brevinmonroe7977 Жыл бұрын

#61 on KC made a hell of a play

@becpennington7470 Жыл бұрын

Grunny was a hell of a player, but it is still illegal to drag an offensive player across the line to help them. Unless you're the Eagles.

@framebyframegames 4 ай бұрын

Assisting the runner? So is the Tush Push illegal?

@Grid56 4 ай бұрын

No. Pushing allowed, pulling not, you effectively have to be behind the runner to help.

@jfmahler Жыл бұрын

So even if Cobb leaps and catches that ball, without going out of bounds or touching the goal posts before it hit the crossbar, He can’t return it?

@FadkinsDiet 4 ай бұрын

They decided any leaping to catch or block a fg was too much risk for injury

@Alexs23743 Жыл бұрын

I think the first guy missed his calling to be in a sport that actually has goalies. Why they need a separate rule for 1:40 when "face mask" would've sufficed is beyond me. D: *D I S C O N C E R T I N G A N O F F E N S I V E C A D E N C E*

@FUGP72 Жыл бұрын

Because the back of the helmet is not a face mask. And they can't just call it "grabbing the helmet" since you can do that, you just can hook your fingers under anything. But "Personal Foul - Hooking fingers inside the helmet" is a strange penalty call. You could say "Illegal Hands to the Helmet" but since when is fully describing things a BAD thing? Leave no ambiguity for either the players or the fans.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@FUGP72 In NCAA and Federation it's called grasping a helmet opening.

@justinclifford5486 Жыл бұрын

Lol I heard "in the grasp" as "in the grass" like wtf you can only throw passes on astroturf fields?

@kingquackington5301 Жыл бұрын

I feel like if you can block the ball at the post, it should be allowed to be blocked. I mean, do people realize how far up you would have to jump to get to the bottom crossbar?

@jasondean88888 Жыл бұрын

Yes. 10 feet. No higher than a basketball hoop. The real issue should be that they are preventing the return of a kick. Why aren't they allowed to catch it, no matter where the ball is on the field.

@loganstolberg2743 Жыл бұрын

Can someone explain the tackling by the helmet rule to me?

@tygrkhat4087 Жыл бұрын

Simple. You can't use the helmet to tackle a player.

@loganstolberg2743 Жыл бұрын

@@tygrkhat4087 does that fall under horse collar section of the rule book then?

@Kylora2112 Жыл бұрын

@@loganstolberg2743 It's the same penalty call, but you can't grasp the facemask, the face opening, or the back of the helmet. Since officials have to specify why a personal foul is called, it helps to know.

@tygrkhat4087 Жыл бұрын

@@loganstolberg2743 As was said in the clip, more like a reverse facemask. Only recently was the horse collar tackle made a penalty; whereas the facemask rule has been in place since the 50s.

@Geoff69420 Жыл бұрын

Basically facemasking, except by grabbing by the rear lip of the helmet instead of by the facemask.

@travisthompson292 Жыл бұрын

I miss madden... He said that's a bunch of bologna

@a-mizzlebeatz6395 Жыл бұрын

The Cowboys and Rams punt.... someone explain to me what that was about? Did the Cowboys get it or the Rams? What was so special about it? Just a rolling punt right?

@whaduzitmatr Жыл бұрын

rolling punts were never a thing in those days, they had thrown a flag for ineligible receiver downfield because they thought White was passing (he was a quarterback as well) but since they realized he punted they pulled up the flag. should have then been 1st down Rams

@a-mizzlebeatz6395 Жыл бұрын

@@whaduzitmatr That's what I was wondering because they concluded by saying first down at the other end but the way the hype was had me thinking the cowboys some how got it.

@untexan Жыл бұрын

Rolling punts or rugby kicks, like the ones you see in college, are not legal in the NFL and haven’t been for a long time. Teams have tried rugby kicks or done it after a bad snap and they always get called for ineligible men downfield. In the Danny White clip, back then you were allowed to punt the ball beyond the line of scrimmage, but I think the NFL realized that was a loophole and closed it.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

@@whaduzitmatr No, the flag was for ineligible player downfield ahead of a scrimmage kick, but it applied only when the ball is kicked from in or behind the neutral zone. Now it's illegal to kick the ball from beyond the neutral zone, but if you kick it twice the ineligibles downfield applies only to the first kick.

@Brirend Жыл бұрын

"assisting the runner" or "pushing the pile" hasn't been a penalty since 2005.

@becpennington7470 Жыл бұрын

This is untrue. It is still against the rules to drag or carry a player to help them advance. Pushing is allowed.

@Speedster___ Жыл бұрын

What do you mean in the grass?

@erakfishfishfish Жыл бұрын

In the grasp. The official was claiming that a defensemen was grasping onto the QB and he blew the play dead as if the QB were sacked.

@gaston8512 3 ай бұрын

Perfect examples why i switched to SEC. The NFL has been wussified

@op_bread920 Жыл бұрын

0:39 whats this rule supposed to mean?

@Kylora2112 Жыл бұрын

The ref blew the play dead because Wade Wilson was "in the grasp" of a defender.

@erakfishfishfish Жыл бұрын

You know how when a quarterback is mobbed by a bunch of defensemen and he doesn’t go down but can’t do anything else? He’s in the grasp and the play is called dead. A few years ago, the rule was called more strictly, and it resulted in some completed passes to be called back because an official already blew the play dead.

@reamick Жыл бұрын

@4:20 That should have been called as an illegal kick. A drop kick requires kicking the ball as it touches the ground or immediately after, which it clearly wasn't.

@Anthony-hu3rj Жыл бұрын

The video is blurry, but I think (clearly, to me) he drop-kicked it -- after faking a real kick. Not illegal, thus.

@Kylora2112 Жыл бұрын

The ball clearly hits the ground he drops it, then is kicked after. The rule is that you have to kick it on the ground or on the up-bounce (the "immediately after;" if the ball is travelling downwards when you kick it, it's a punt).

@reamick Жыл бұрын

@@Anthony-hu3rj No. He dropped the ball and kicked it as it was coming down after a high bounce. That's not "immediately after."

@erakfishfishfish Жыл бұрын

@@reamick you’re correct, and the league admitted that the kick was illegal afterwards. I found a CBS Sports article about it online. (Search for the headline “NFL bans Ravens' crazy kickoff dropkick after watching Baltimore use it just one time”)

@n3r0wolfe Жыл бұрын

since when is "assisting the runner" a penalty.. they get pushed from behind all the time

@playdg Жыл бұрын

You can push, you can't pull.

@Cryolemon Жыл бұрын

It's only a penalty to pull them forwards, not push them, and it's almost never called anyway.

@poisonpotato1 6 ай бұрын

If assisting the runner is a penalty then eagles need to be penalized every tush push / brotherly shove play they do

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

They rescinded part of that rule a few years ago -- but not the part shown here (pulling the runner).

@chipseal9403 Жыл бұрын

Sin is one of the reasons for the season. Repent, therefore, and kiss the Son, the only Savior.

@TonyStebbins Жыл бұрын

In the grasp still exists and it's called multiple times every single game.

@SurfTheSkyline Жыл бұрын

To quote an article on that "Following a recommendation by the Competition Committee, the owners voted to enforce the rule only when quarterbacks are held by a defender with other defenders in pursuit." so it I believe a better way to describe it would be that the rule is different now

@jasondean88888 Жыл бұрын

Multiple times every single game? I've watched 1000s of hours of football, it's a pretty rare call. Not sure what sport you're watching. I'd be surprised to see it more than once or twice a week league wide, let alone multiple times per game. 16 games a week would mean 32 calls minimum. There are games where some offensive teams don't even run 32 plays. So, you're claiming that the refs are negating (at mininum) an entire game worth of offensive production, ever week, with this call.

@firetruck1364 Жыл бұрын

Tuck rule?

@murphyc15 Жыл бұрын

Seems ridiculous that you can't try to block a FG from inside the endzone

@iode9999 Жыл бұрын

No it doesn’t

@stopmikeandjim3196 Жыл бұрын

You can do this in college. If you catch the kick cleanly, even above the crossbar, it's not a penalty. If you block it above the crossbar and don't catch it (and it doesn't go through) it's a safety. Only potentially useful when it's the final play of the game and the other team is attempting a long FG to tie

@FadkinsDiet 4 ай бұрын

@stopmikeandjim3196 has it ever been done?

@jayNicks10 Жыл бұрын

What Cobb was trying to do was illegal. It’s one thing to block. It’s another thing to goal tend.

@pillettadoinswartsh4974 Жыл бұрын

1st rule isn't nobscure. It's goal-tending.

@Kylora2112 Жыл бұрын

Hardly anyone knows it exists because it doesn't happen much. Kinda like the Titans getting called for roughing the snapper last week. Every special teams D-lineman knows you can't line up over the snapper and you can't touch them until they set themselves up to block or move downfield, so you'll see it called once every 20 years.

@playdg Жыл бұрын

@@Kylora2112 I'd say that one gets called frequently. Also, I'm not even sure it is 20 years old at this point. It certainly isn't 40 years old, they used to hammer that guy legally.

@scottlemiere2024 Жыл бұрын

The second one is no longer against the rules and hasn't been for about ten years.

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

No, pulling the runner is still illegal.

@90hjorth Жыл бұрын

Randall Cobb wasn’t trying to block it lol😂 have some eyes and common sense. He was trying to catch a a kick a realized last second it wasn’t low enough

@lorenzobeckmann3736 Жыл бұрын

watching this video (20 sec) Dec 2022. film from 35 yrs ago not relevant today - these penalties not called today.

@justingolden21 Жыл бұрын

Disconcerting signals in college is called stemming and it led to SDSU losing a bowl game they should've won :(

@goodmaro 5 ай бұрын

No, that's not what stemming means.

@dsscam 5 ай бұрын

The only way in today's NFL is to push the runner across the line of gain or goal line. And the p-sy QB rules are dumber than ever

@andrewellis712 Жыл бұрын

I hate that they’re not allowed to dunk the ball. That was my go to celebration in madden 11

@joshmccalip6053 Жыл бұрын

2:14 In case anyone is wondering, yes. That is the same Joe Gibbs from Nascar.

@FUGP72 Жыл бұрын

Personal fouls for using grabbing the helmet from underneath is not obscure.

@rjhooper9226 Жыл бұрын

Since when can you not push a runner foreword. Even if it’s pulling that’s a dumbass rule.

@SgvSth Жыл бұрын

Pushing is fine to my knowledge, but pulling the runner is a penalty.

@rjhooper9226 Жыл бұрын

@@SgvSth should be considered the same tbh.

@bradmcnellen8980 Жыл бұрын

A more famous penalty of this nature occurred in 1985, when William "The Refrigerator" Perry picked up Walter Payton and tried to carry him across the goal line in Dallas. They called it "illegal use of the hands".

@reamick Жыл бұрын

It's been against the rules in football since before the creation of the NFL.

@Luke-cu7bf Жыл бұрын

so a lineman should be able to pull the runner as many yards as he can? That's just stupid dude....

@zwojack7285 Жыл бұрын

Lmao, American Football is a joke

@deannelson9565 Жыл бұрын

Just like you

@unclecreepy4185 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think these are obscure rules so much as things players and coaches know not to do and aren’t taught to do them. They’re simply not breaking the rule, so the causal fan doesn’t know it’s a rule. It’s one thing for the NFL to change the way a player is allowed to tackle and now this professional player who has been tackling someone the right way since the first day he put on pads as a kid has to learn a new way. But these penalty are more rare because in the heat of the moment, they’re not actions a player reverts. Defense know they can’t mimic the cadence. Linemen know they can’t pull a runner. Coaches know they can’t call back to back time outs. So they only do it when trying to cheat or aren’t paying attention. Grabbing a face mask, horse collar, holding, interference, late hits, are more heat of the moment, trying not to get beat type of plays. And the players doing it to cheat or out of anger, get ejected or penalized. You can’t intentionally stomp on someone’s head, so most players have enough control over themselves. Suh doesn’t, so he gets called for it. No one is like “I didn’t even know that was a rule that you can’t stomp on someone’s head.”

@garrisonsides Жыл бұрын

let players dunk on goal posts

@GoodTimerCO Жыл бұрын

ill be in the middle of eating my food and enjoying the content, and then remember this dude only puts out 5 minute videos 😐

@Luke-cu7bf Жыл бұрын

I don't understand the 3rd clip

@erakfishfishfish Жыл бұрын

To be “in the grasp” means the officials felt the ball carrier was grasped by a defensemen and the play is over. Instead of the completed pass in the clip, the QB was considered tackled. The rule still exists today, but the league put some common sense measures so plays are only blown dead if the player was obviously going down (example: getting shoved backwards 10 yards by a mob of defensemen)