He probably hit 1000 and decided to stop pretending to retire. He was the best in the league as a grandfather.

They also didn’t play as many games in a season. The game was different back then , I’m aware of that but 20 less games a season during an elite players prime could equal a lot of points . But players can’t play until their in their 50’s anymore so you can’t really compare eras but you can compare players to other players that played in the same era .

Gordie did his own fighting

Gordie was the first all around player in hockey. Players may pass his records after him but he was the first to achieve everything!

@ENGlishJELLo-yk7up in his day hooking,boarding,roughing, interference rarely called

played in the right era.

​@@tombradyshow1222The one and only goat.

@@tombradyshow1222 I know right? Why didn't anyone else from that era score as many points as Wayne did? Or even close?

Ya and I call bullshit 😂

One could argue that Lemieux was as close to an equal.

Cheap second assists

@projektkobra2247 you have no idea what you’re talking about.

@@oilersridersbluejays Deadmonton fans like you are why I don't care if Yanks win our Cup for the next 100 years. A "second assist" is often a freebie tossed in to pad stats...Id sit through a review of all his assists to see how clear cut they were.

He also has the most goals in history so the "cheap second assist" logic is illogical. Gretzky was the best offensive player ever, period and it didn't matter what era he played in he would still dominate offensively.

@@projektkobra2247 - obviously Gretzky has the most secondary assists since he has the most primary assists and the most goals as well (and thus the most points). It would be a bit weird if he was #1 in all categories except secondary assists. It sort of comes with the territory.

True . Otherwise he could score 800 goals and 2000 points.

I doubt that would have been enough time for him to catch Gretzky, but it definitely would have shrunk the gap significantly.

True, but Wayne also missed half of 95, and played in the WHL in 78/79, so that gap closes, but by no more than 100-120 points.

Mario Lemieux had over 2 points per game average to around 2005. If he stayed healthy he would be close to Gretzky in numbers

Nope. He needed a break. That's why he moved to the KHL. If he didn't, he would quit way sooner.

Same with his playoff goals and assists. Just like his Canada Cup totals (#1 in goals, assists, and points).

its going to be broken sooner than u think boy

LOL. By who?​@@valmettirakkori2563

Ya and all in what like 2 drafts? Just insane scouting from that team

He has 4 of the top 10 goal seasons (and is +6 over Brett Hull [the highest not-Gretzky season]), 9 of the top 11 assist seasons, including 1-8 (and is +49 over Mario Lemieux), and 9 of the top 11 points seasons (+16 over Mario Lemieux...and Gretzky is the only player to ever record a 200 point season, and has FOUR of them).

Obi will catch Wayne in goals but his assist record is secure

@@craigusselman546 - Gretzky’s 163 assists (in one season) was secure even when prime Gretzky was still playing lol. That record is completely insane. Even more insane than his 50 goals in 39 games, which is also insane.

hockey was so awful back than game changed a lot

@@tombradyshow1222 - awfully great.

The aaron brothers hold the record for most homeruns in baseball. Hank 755, his brother Tommie, 13 lol

many of Mario's games were not close to 100% healthy

Yup. He is the only player that I accept may have been as good or better then the great one. And he played his prime career during the dead puck era AND came back from cancer. I mean super Mario is a very earned title.

@@patrickthomas2119 well said ... His back was not always healthy &&& was always a huge target for hooking, slashing, holding, etc. -very often not called ... He will also tell that the biggest thrill was captaining Team Canada to Gold in the 2002 Olympics (my opinion the Greatest Team ever assembled) !!!!!!!!

maybe but hockey is undoubtedly becoming much more international in the great players. the dynasty Blackhawks were very Canadian but their star was American and Hossa was Slovak. the Lightning were led by Russians Kuch and Vasi and Swede Hedman more than anyone. etc. even Crosby's Pens, obviously led by Sid, but you had Russian Malkin right there and Phil the Thrill on the last 2 teams.

Another fun fact: Gretzky scored his first 2000 points in exactly 857 games. He went on to score exactly 857 more points.

PPG, not GPG

in 1940 Czechoslovakia NOT EXIST

@@881terrorhuh?

He’s still from Czechoslovakia

@@edited1325 Not a product of the Czech hockey system.

@@projektkobra2247 and? Lmao he wasn’t born in Canada so he isn’t actually Canadian

If you gain Canadian citizenship, as Makita did, he’s Canadian. And he played for the 1972 Team Canada.

He was actually born in todays Slovakia, so flag is wrong anyway.

anyone who understands hockey will tell you that points alone do not define the worth/skill of a player ... Mark Messier & Jerome Iginla providing excellent examples !!!

@@brucewayne3602Messier is 3rd in points lol

awesome comment ... They defined the word "team" ... may we add "coach" as well !!!

The flag of Czechoslovakia was the same as it is now for Czechia though. There are only flags and they are factually correct.

@@medito1805 as a Czech, I confirm. But I just expected a Slovak flag :D

why hockeys so irrelvent outside of canadia. more ppl watch pre season nba than stanleys finals

@@tombradyshow1222 What are you smoking man, cause I'd want some of that

​@tombradyshow1222 another game invented by canadians. You're welcome.🤣🤣🤣

He just goes around all the message threads trying to fish with his stupid comments. Don't feed the troll. And his nickname say it all, a fan of the most boring, most idiotic game ever invented.

@@barley12girl Hockey was played in netherlands and scotland before in canada, but canadians invented modern hockey.

The back to back Pens teams had 5 players that are on this list and almost had a 6th but Trottier slipped out around 2013.

​@@joeheid2776 Wayne never even played 1 game with a player who was in the top 20 scoring at the time they played together. The Pens gave Mario a few to play with to help him win a cup.

@@dannycarlow8204 And neither was Lemieux at that time. Coffey wasn't in the top 15 then. Neither was Recchi. And certainly not Jagr. Trottier would've been but he was a 4th line role player by then. I get your point but Mario was in the same boat timewise.

@@joeheid2776 Ron Francis certainly was as well. The pens had to bring guys in. The oilers drafted all of their hall of famers. Anyone could have taken them and 3rd and 4th rounders definitely aren't expected to be hall of famers. Mess - 3rd round. Kurri and Anderson were both 4th rounders. Obviously not very sought out by anyone for their potential greatness.

That feels disingenuous. Coffey and Dionne were each only in Detroit for like 3-4 seasons.

Gretzky played against them in the Canada Cup and dominated.

It’s so insane that a player that good (2nd all time in points by 1986) had a 10 year head start on Gretzky, but Gretzky still somehow passed him in points before Dionne even retired… 😮

Crosby is currently in 10th place all time.

List is old. Crosby has 1596p and would make the list now.

@@windsolarupnorth7084 Looks like Ovi might bump off Coffey if he can have a great season or two decent ones. But even so, looking at it, the next after Ovi is Malkin and Kane at almost 300 points less than Crosby

I don't know about the other players, but Jagr, even though he doesn't play in the NHL anymore, still plays in the Czech Extraliga.

@@windsolarupnorth7084 and Ovi has 1550 now and would also be in the list.

best of luck !!!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm did/does Over have any team members like Messier, Coffey, Anderson, Kurri, etc. ???

@@brucewayne3602dude hasn't hit 50+ assists in 13 years, despite the Caps usually being among the highest-scoring teams for many of those years

Овечкин и в нхл гораздо меньше времени провел

Why would they include the WHA totals? This is for the NHL. If you do professional records you have to include pro Euro leagues and the likes as well. That's a whole different list.

It's been very debated whether or not the WHA was up to the the NHL's level. I mean sure Howe was killing it there, but he was around 50 years old and many critics would argue "no way he puts up those kind of numbers in the NHL". They may be right, in his final season in Hartford he only put up 41 points.

@@dannycarlow8204 Why? Because they actually included some WHA statistics. Like I mentioned, if WHA wasn't up to NHL standards then why was Gretzky not eligible for "Rookie of the Year" because the WHA was considered a professional league so he played his rookie year there. Why rather then simply erase the history of the WHA, the NHL called it a "merger" with four of its teams absorbed into the league. Points records were null and void, yet they still acknowledge that the players actually spent time in the league, so statistics such as "rookie season" or "active player" or their history with a franchise was still valid. Guess this was the NHL's way of punishing the players who dared to play for their rivals.

@@jayanxiety Have you lost your mind? Nobody is erasing the history of the WHA. Those stats all still exist under the heading of WHA Statistics. Do you think player's stats from the KHL should be added to their NHL stats as well or the XFL stats added to NFL stats? The stats of the NHL are for hockey players playing on NHL teams against NHL teams. Nothing else. WHA stats get separated just like we separate stats from players that play in the Swedish Elite League after their NHL career. Of course player's time in the WHA gets acknowledged. That's because they played there, just like a player's time in juniors gets acknowledged. Everywhere a player plays gets acknowledged in their own personal stat history. I don't think you even understand what you are trying to go at here.......I know I don't. You make no sense. Maybe you should do a video like this one that says "All time professional hockey career point leaders". Then you can finally be happy because all the numbers will be together again and you'll hopefully stop your crying.

@@dannycarlow8204 The difference here is that WHA got merged with its competitor, much like the ABA into the NBA. That's all I was saying.

Ok well then that means Bret Hull is American because he grew up in the US and was developed here for most of his early years. He also always played for an American team

He moved from Czechoslovakia, not Slovakia. That does not make him Canadian. I was born in Canada. Moving to Japan at some point does not make me Japanese.

@@dannycarlow8204 you do know that Slovakia and Czech made-up Czechoslovakia right? Surely you’re also aware that you can get citizenship in country you weren’t born in right? Maybe take 2 minutes to look up his bio. He’s referred to as a Slovak-born Canadian. Not to mentioned he played for the Canadian national team.

@@vikrim1 when he was born, what was the country called? I know what happened after. Just what was the country named at the time of his birth? The country's name in 1940, not 2023. Be honest because I know the answer. I just want you to say it. Having citizenship in another country doesn't change where you were born, look it up.

@@dannycarlow8204 this is a silly thing to argue but first off, I never claimed he wasn’t born in another country I’m saying he’s recognized as a Canadian national so his stats are as a Canadian hockey player. Second, although at the time of his birth the country was Czechoslovakia, he’s also recognized as a Slovak-born Canadian. Again, take 2-minutes to read his bio from any of multiple of sources and we can spare ourselves this wasted time of arguing over semantics.

The goals record is in jeopardy, Ovechkin is 41 away. He is starting to slow down, but realistically, he could do it in a year or two.

True. He was born in an indepedent back then pro-fascist Slovakia.

in todays game he would have about 1300 or so. they used to play with logs back than and the goalies had no gear

​@@tombradyshow1222 Why didn't players in the 50's score so much more than Wayne when the goalies had worse equipment and no masks? Shouldn't it have been incredibly simple to score? Why was Wayne the only one to be so far ahead ahead of anyone in his era compared to statistical leaders in any other era?

​@@tombradyshow1222you are funny 😂

@@dannycarlow8204 Thank you for this! I get so tired of people saying athletes 40 years ago couldn't do what present day athletes can. Every sport has improved due to a number of reasons, so you can only compare the era's that they played in. It's not rocket science but to some people it seems like it is.

@@thomaskorell6234 In Gretzky's time and before they ate hotdogs, drank booze and smoked in the dressing room. Many players were also not "career" players...like they are today. No matter how you look at it and no matter what equipment was used/ wasn't used....his is a feat that will stand the test of time.

Same for Czechia. Unfortunately, hockey has been on the decline in our country, hopefully the bronze from 2022 and the gold from this year's world championship will pick it up again.

5 missed seasons with +-900 points? No chance to reach Gretzky.

@@JaN-nh2fo well, it's Jágr we are talking about here. When he was 40 years old, everybody was telling him that his hockey carreer is over. 12 years later he still plays. Sure, not as good as in his prime, but still good nontheless...

@@trixus4768 I am talking about realistic numbers here. And +-900pts in 5 seasons simply impossible even for Jagr.

Yeah he surpassed Esposito to get N 10.

and Ovechkin

not true

Na Ukrajině😂

the list is obsolete. Sid (1596) and Ovi (1550) have to be added now.

He was born in 1940. Slovakia was founded in 1993. Hence, the Czech flag. As it should be.

​@@dannycarlow8204 By your logic, Czech republic also didnt exist, only Czechoslovakia, so it would be Czechoslovak flag, not Czech flag. But that doesnt even matter because in 1940, due to Nazi Germany effort, the country was devided, and first republic of Slovakia established, so Stan Mikita was in fact born in Slovak Republic, which used the same flag with the coat of arms being separate (so fun fact, todays Russia flag was originaly Slovak). Also, we are talking about his nationality, which in no way shape or form was czech. You could argue with Peter Šťastný that at the time, he was actively playing for Czechoslovakia so you might have a point. But still, most recently, he represented Slovakia and is of Slovak nationality. If Czechia changed the flag after the split, should Jagr still have the old flag next to his name? You make no sense. Hence, the Slovak flag should have been used.

@@oogaboooga69 Just so you know, I didn't put the flags. Whoever did, did not use the same logic for all obviously.

Slovakia back in 1940 was an indepedent pro-fascist state. Not a part of Czechoslovakia.

On Ukraine

the list is obsolete

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did Over have any outstanding team members ???

the list is obsolete. Sid and Ovi have to be added now.