The Four Train Routes Between Glasgow and Edinburgh

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@scotland753 Ай бұрын

ive got an idea for a point to point its its charing X in glasgow - charing x in london

@mrvwbug4423 Ай бұрын

Perth to Perth haha, though that might be a rather long trip haha.

@eugenedonaghy1 Ай бұрын

Montrose in Scotland to Montrose in Ireland

@anerdtravels Ай бұрын

@@eugenedonaghy1Steve Marsh did Montrose in Scotland to Montreux in Switzerland, so along similar lines!

@RealBrik2 Ай бұрын

London in England to London in Canada 😂😂😂

@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759 Ай бұрын

@@RealBrik2 let me copy your idea - Edmonton in London to Edmonton in Alberta 😁

@Aidythistle1231 Ай бұрын

Just a tip for riding those 334 units, the carriages on either end of the unit are in a 2+2 configuration and armrests. A lot more comfortable for the long journey. Great video Nick.

@rjs23565 Ай бұрын

The Bathgate route was a complete route to Edinburgh before the 50s but the Airdrie to Bathgate section was closed to passengers in 1956. My gran used to go in the "blue Train" to Helensburgh from Airdrie when she fancied a day out at the seaside.

@Sim0nTrains Ай бұрын

There was a 5th route via Falkirk Grahamston which was a quite route between Glasgow and Edinburgh but sadly been withdrawn an some of those puns were bad-ley 😂 But a good idea that was well executed (will admit, did hear this idea the night before Leven opened) great video

@CoastwayWill Ай бұрын

Honestly, 4 routes were more than enough, I think a 5th route would've broken us! Bathgate was grueeeling 😆

@thomascook578 Ай бұрын

I hated working those, felt like a lifetime on them, used to get passengers on them at queen street not realising they were over an hour journey time

@abtravel0279 Ай бұрын

The 5th via Cumbernauld ultimately went as it was a delay nightmare. On the stretch through Edinburgh Park pre covid, you had 2ph semi fast to Dunblane, 2ph to Queen St all stops via Cumbernauld, 4ph to Queen Street via Falkirk High (split stopping pattern to give all except Haymarket/Falkirk High 2ph, the other stops having 4ph). Then you had 2ph semi fast to Milngavie and also 2ph semi fast to Helensburgh, both via Airdrie/Bathgate. Throw in the handful of other operators services that used the route and you sometimes had 13-14 trains per hour in each direction through the section at Edinburgh Park, averaging about a train every 3-4 minutes. Many of the Queen Street fasts via Falkirk High were still 4 cars at this point though, as were the Dunblane’s. Something had to give and the choice was made as a result of covid to reduce the number of trains, but lengthen most of them to 6 or 8 cars. Not only did this save money, but it freed up space and maintained a similar level of capacity compared to what was running before.

@thomascook578 Ай бұрын

@@abtravel0279Newbridge Jn was and still is a nightmare, one thing goes wrong there...boof chaos

@nigelkthomas9501 Ай бұрын

I was thought Falkirk Grahamston was just for Sunday services as Falkirk High was shut on a Sunday. Incidentally, have you ever been to Falkirk High? It’s a very healthy walk from the centre of town!

@sueKay Ай бұрын

I live fairly close to Helensburgh and I've only done the Glasgow - Edinburgh stretch of the Helensburgh - Edinburgh route twice. It might not be the longest but it just has so many stops...and it's the busiest of the routes. I always change at Queen Street and get the train that goes via Falkirk High.

@katrinabryce Ай бұрын

Crosscountry also run one train per day between Glasgow and Edinburgh, on the same route as LNER.

@TheSamGrahamShow Ай бұрын

I work with Clara at The Bo’Ness and Kinneil Railway :)

@paultidd9332 Ай бұрын

That’s a great heritage railway, just a shame it doesn’t link with a mainline railway service.

@Thatspuremental Ай бұрын

@@paultidd9332it would be good to see a service from Edinburgh Waverley or heck haymarket to Bo’ness

@stevenking9346 Ай бұрын

Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Carstairs takes less than an hour if go with LNER or Cross Country. Scotrail only takes longer because it has more stops and has to wait at Carstairs for a while. Also the train you got to Queens street low level. Stops at Partick. Where you can get to Glasgow Central low level and Motherwell. saves you ever walking between Central and Queen Street.

@Saint_Dan132 Ай бұрын

you went passed where i grew up, garrowhill , what a video thanks for coming to visit my lovley city and this train route is how my hubby gets to uni, the Glasgow central express to Edinburgh

@paultidd9332 Ай бұрын

07:15 I think you need to do a video on how many devices you can power from one train socket 😂

@davidheyworth7947 Ай бұрын

I just plug my ebike battery in... it works

@ricoblade1 29 күн бұрын

Thanks Nick and crew - That slow service from Queen Street Lower bailed me out recently when the Falkirk High line was blocked and I still made my connection at Waverley, resilience is good!

@InkItOut 27 күн бұрын

A couple days after this video was filmed we had the same issue, all trains were cancelled via Falkirk High so we had to take the long route via Bathgate. However even though it was longer we still made it with plenty of time for our train at Edinburgh!

@MrPaulFCockburn Ай бұрын

Some trains between Edinburgh and Glasgow via Shotts stop at 19 stations-which is about the same number as the Bathgate/Airdrie option.

@mark2rob Ай бұрын

Thanks, love your videos and enjoy the contributions from your travelling companions.

@NickBadley Ай бұрын

Thank youuuuu!!

@Nooticus 26 күн бұрын

Great video as always, and very funny that you published it when I was visiting Edinburgh

@Thornaby37 Ай бұрын

Great video comparing the four routes 👍 The Shotts line is considerably faster than when I first did it in 1988 in a first generation (class 107) DMU

@simon11235 Ай бұрын

Another great video - excellent!

@kevinoconnor2754 Ай бұрын

This is a great video, and thanks for posting it. It feels like there could be other cities in the UK where this would work. I think there are at least three routes: Manchester-Liverpool and a similar number: Sheffield-Leeds. There are probably more that could create this into a mini series.

@ReecesTrains Ай бұрын

That was a great video and idea, Nick! I can say with complete honest that I haven't been on all four and probably only done two of them! 😂

@MichaelScott-kw6gv Ай бұрын

Fantastic Video. Well Done.

@SamsVlogstrainsmore 18 күн бұрын

Great vlog Nick. I’ve been to both Glasgow and Edinburgh but not taken the train between the 2 cities before.

@ReubenAshwell Ай бұрын

Brilliant video Nick, I thought the joke about the caledonian sleeper train sleeping at the depot was brilliant.

@Clivestravelandtrains 18 күн бұрын

The film omitted the Cumbernauld route, which had direct trains Glasgow-Edinburgh until the timetable rationalisation post-Covid. Now it involves a change of trains at Falkirk Grahamston. When these were running through, people sometimes caught them at Edniburgh without realissing they weren't the fast trains! I believe the plan is to re-instate them when passenger numbers reaches pre-Covid levels again.

@fenpikey Ай бұрын

I wonder if the Irn-Bru vending machine was deliberately placed near a girder! And I also wonder how many get what I mean!!!!! 😉

@colinnich 27 күн бұрын

Anyone who's Scottish I imagine. And over 40 😂

@fenpikey 27 күн бұрын

@@colinnich Lol, yer probably right!! 🤣🤣

@officialmcdeath Ай бұрын

Love the Shotts (sic) when the crew emerge from behind you \m/

@acfbrown1 Ай бұрын

I mainly use the Falkirk High route as it's back to every 15 minutes off peak in the week but if I'm going to Glasgow Central I might go from Slateford or Wester Hailes. I've only used the Airdrie-Bathgate route once in 2016 to see my sister when she lived by Partick station.

@From_Journey_to_Keyboard Ай бұрын

great vlog all of you

@itzfloofykittymeow Ай бұрын

i was at central the other day going from corker hill it was good to go on a class 380 again ❤

@RoyTheMouth Ай бұрын

Edinburgh to Glasgow via the Airdrie to Bathgate Route I managed to do as a pub crawl with railway colleagues!! You are right there is a lot of station stops! 🍻🤣🤣

@user-iq4zj6fs8g Ай бұрын

Brilliant 😊

@MichaelTavares Ай бұрын

Nick Badley? More like Nick Goodley!

@Trainspotting_Mayhem Ай бұрын

Cross Country also goes via the Carstairs route to get from Edinburgh to Glasgow

@DTPORT5723 7 күн бұрын

There was previously five. The hourly Glasgow Queen Street - Cumbernauld - Falkirk Grahamston service was extended to Edinburgh some point after the E&G electrification works but was cut back to Fkg in the May 2022 timetable change as part of the "fit for future" scheme. If memory serves right it took about 1hr15m end to end. To be honest ..while it was nice having a direct link (living in Springburn area), very few people would go all the way through so wasn't making a massive profit - and this is pre-covid I'm talking. People from my way can just change in Glasgow, and people in and near Cumbernauld could travel a brief distance to Croy with its large Park & Ride facility and just get the fast service there.

@teecefamilykent Ай бұрын

Brilliant video, for pointless journeys have you thought of doing: Bromley north to bromley south via bromley by bow and bromley cross? Or Sydenham NI to Sydenham London?

@77smp Ай бұрын

There's technically a fifth but it's not direct. No change of stations or platform but a change of train at Falkirk Grahamston. Having done all these routes I'm keen to watch 🙂 Also just found out that the 21:05 Cross-country service from Glasgow doesn't run anymore, it was unique in not going via Haymarket but coming in from the south. Cool, hope you enjoyed it 🙂 Regional service indeed, it's an express Intercity route! The fact it's not very long, or fast, and prone to flooding is beside the point! 😉

@YTdannycookevids 24 күн бұрын

..I did Edinburgh Waverley from Wallyford.. Couldn't stop being entertained by the name, noted they have LNER, TPE, Lumo ect through there, so suspect I was on the main route in. P.S. also caught the Sleeper leaving Fort William (recommended visit up there. Quiet, but scenic!)

@stanley3647 Ай бұрын

In "old days" Nottingham to Skegness summer service has one train per day with 8 carriages plus 2 locos. It was a bit surreal to look at this set in tight curves on this line. But because HST sets was withdrawn from service - not anymore.

@Northerner_Transport_Hub Ай бұрын

Another great video Nick! Seems like you and Natt had a nice time in Scotland. One thing I will say is that, despite having guests that do the journeys with you is nice, I miss the videos that just you and Natt used to do. No offence to your friends though.

@deltic1964 Ай бұрын

Great Video Nick havent seen a Pointless Journey off you in a while is one looming??

@SuperKurashima Ай бұрын

This means you've passed through Breich, which was at one point Britains least used station

@garymacdonald7165 10 сағат бұрын

The train via "Shotts" is the one for Glasgow to Heriot Watt University (get off at Currie)

@owenstockwood5040 Ай бұрын

A tip for if you find yourself on a 334 again, try sitting in the driving cars, as those have seating in a 2+2 arrangement, rather than the 2+3 in the middle coach. That, and you also get arm rests.

@Gordanovich02 25 күн бұрын

To be fair to the Airdrie-Bathgate route it was always meant to be a suburban service that happened to have a large city at each end, rather than being an out-and-out intercity service.

@FusionZenFlame 26 күн бұрын

I was suprised how fast the Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen Street via Faliirk High was... It was my first time riding a 385 but I didnt know about Scotrail Express services beforehand. It blew my mind because of how efficient fhe connection is.

@therathergoodengineer9285 26 күн бұрын

the fastest routes take between 39 and 43 minutes! they dont stop at croy or polmont.

@FusionZenFlame 26 күн бұрын

@@therathergoodengineer9285 I went on the one that skipped Croy. Then on return I stopped at all the stops.

@mik99D Ай бұрын

Another good one. I thought that it would be one person for each service. But this had better feedback from the group.

@nathanw9770 Ай бұрын

Crosscountry occasionally use 8 or 9 cars trains on some of their services, I think mainly Edinburgh to Plymouth. It's more of an Intercity service than Regional though. Still very rare for a service that doesn't touch London though.

@MaxBarnish Ай бұрын

I thought it would be 4 people racing each other but it's better to see you all together

@Computer895 29 күн бұрын

You are ridding the gossip line today and got on at reddish south and you got off in Denton

@DanBen07 25 күн бұрын

I have a suggestion for video where you travel between two stations in different ways. Example 1: East Croydon and West Croydon one way you would go by rail and have to change trains and the other way you go directly by tram. Example 2: You take two destinations and go one way by train and the other by bus and see which is better.

@hoover517 Ай бұрын

I last rode between Edinburgh and Glasgow in 1982 on a push pull set. Class 47 and DVT

@therathergoodengineer9285 26 күн бұрын

wow, consider yourself lucky

@Joshthetrainspotter85 Ай бұрын

Coatbridge Sunnyside used to be my local station now jst recently a moved so local stations now Lenzie Did you go on the last Glasgow Subway 2nd Gen stock btw?

@davejoey Ай бұрын

Enjoyable video as usual Nick! As there were 4 of you, I thought you all were going to do a route each. Also why was there 2 editing cuts when Natt was talking at the 9 min mark?

@NickBadley Ай бұрын

They were two rather long pauses so I just cut them out as to improve the flow a bit!

@CoastwayWill Ай бұрын

@davejoey I had planned this one and we were considering a format like this, but in the end decided just to be a bit more free flowing (plus I had to remake my notes on the spot as I'd left them back at my flat!)

@ollytippett7050 Ай бұрын

⁠@@NickBadley Hello there. Plz go Plymouth 1 day

@Lewisjma21 Ай бұрын

@@NickBadleyhey nick! Can u do a ‘how many trains we do’ Chesterfield-Derby-Birmingham New Street-Leicester-Nottingham-Chesterfield

@kieranbeecroft8414 21 күн бұрын

@4:37 you have passed Kirknewton, my home, and fail to mention that with increased trains the Level Crossing there can now be down for upto 20 minutes a go. My record is 5 trains passing through before the barriers opened!

@MrPaulFCockburn Ай бұрын

Also, quirky historical fact: the eastern terminus for the original Edinburgh-Glasgow line was, in fact, Haymarket Station. The underground extension linking it to Waverley Station came a tad later…

@scottishtrainspotter7209 Ай бұрын

Funny enough, I've taken those routes between Glasgow and Edinburgh a good couple of times.

@tommarshall1660 Ай бұрын

Working on the premise that we have had The 3 musketeers. Now we have the " 4 stooges". No offence meant guys lol Great video.....

@NickBadley Ай бұрын

4 stooges, I like it!

@tommarshall1660 Ай бұрын

@@NickBadley I hoped you would Nick and Nat. Remember and vote tomorrow.

@david1731048 24 күн бұрын

Whilst its great they opened a continuous roure from Helensburgh to Edinburgh, its so slow that its quicker to get off at Q St, go upstairs, wait for a Falkirk High service and you'll still be in Edinburgh first.

@Turrell_ Ай бұрын

Nice Vine reference :)

@From_Journey_to_Keyboard Ай бұрын

Thanks

@NickBadley Ай бұрын

My, thank you!

@From_Journey_to_Keyboard Ай бұрын

@@NickBadley can i add you on discord please

@NickBadley Ай бұрын

@@From_Journey_to_Keyboard ah right yes, you'll need to connect your KZfaq account to your Discord account in your "Connections" tab, then my server should show up in there

@From_Journey_to_Keyboard Ай бұрын

@@NickBadley i have connected on discord

@joshuaellams9216 28 күн бұрын

you say that about the 8 car services, on a very rare occasion, Liverpoool - blackpool had 8 car 319s during peak time

@joshtrains-qr8ie Ай бұрын

WOW i did not know thereee are so many foreigners in scotland.!!!

@CoastwayWill Ай бұрын

2/4 people in this video are Scottish to some degree

@GazzaBins Ай бұрын

Clara is from Scotland.

@jacobporrett Ай бұрын

Great video Nick. I enjoyed watching. With four of you and four routes why didn't you have a race? That would have been good.

@DitzyNizzy2009 29 күн бұрын

It would have to have been a time trial, as they don't all go at the same time.

@jacobporrett 29 күн бұрын

@@DitzyNizzy2009 something like that yeah.

@alexturlais8558 Ай бұрын

Great video. Was there a difference is ticket price?

@bridgethuggett1052 Ай бұрын

No, its the same price by any route

@Jonathan_55018 27 күн бұрын

intresting vlog

@Ayrshore 18 күн бұрын

I’m watching this while sitting on the platform at Waverley having realised the train I came for here leaves 30 minutes before the next one but arrives in glasgow 3 minutes later, at the wrong station.

@simonwaldman5497 Ай бұрын

The term "regional" feels perjorative to me, and is mostly only used by rail geeks and Londoners... Is it "regional" to travel between Scotland's two biggest cities?

@abby4590lohan Ай бұрын

Could you do from Blackpool north to Blackpool south but a longer route

@therathergoodengineer9285 26 күн бұрын

What about Blackpool north to the pleasure beach station

@Listenerandlearner870 Ай бұрын

There seem to be many trains from Glasgow Central to Edinburgh.so it is not necessary to go to Queen St.

@therathergoodengineer9285 26 күн бұрын

Could you do Edinburgh to Glasgow train vs bus.

@RE-mm3nw Ай бұрын

You commented on the intermediate stops on the Bathgate line between Edinburgh and Glasgow Queen Street low level as having the most stops, that is incorrect. The line between Edinburgh and Glasgow Central via Shotts has the most at 19 stops.

@AndrewG1989 Ай бұрын

But which one is the quickest to get to Glasgow from Edinburgh by train. I would say via Shotts since the Shotts line have been electrified.

@nkt1 27 күн бұрын

The express service via Falkirk High is by far the quickest. As mentioned in the video, it takes around 50 minutes, and all four routes are electrified.

@andrewbeadle9168 Ай бұрын

HELENSBURGH - GLASGOW QUEEN STREET- BATHGATE- EDINBURGH end to end is 2hrs 04 mins ( monday to friday) 2hrs 22 mins ( sundays and late evenings)

@dianekivi5349 Ай бұрын

What about fron Edinburgh up to Sterling change then take another train to Glasgow!

@dianekivi5349 Ай бұрын

What about Glasgow via Springburn Falkirk Gramerston to Edinburgh!

@billmilligan1705 Ай бұрын

You never mentioned the annual all women Ruud Gullet lookalike contest in Airdrie.

@thedevonianfootiefan9871 Ай бұрын

Point to Point Idea, It’s rather Long, but Tynemouth to Teignmouth or vice versa

@paulharvey9149 Ай бұрын

It has to be said, the demand for the first three is distinctly underwhelming, if the number of unoccupied seats around you are anything to go by...! Also, there was until the covid lockdowns, a fifth Edinburgh - Glasgow route, via Falkirk Grahamston, Cumbernauld and Springburn; and until 1968 these was indeed a sixth route between the two cities - via Dunfermline, Oakley and Stirling (although I believe the odd one of these may have turned off after Alloa and crossed the Forth Viaduct to Larbert and therefore omitting Stirling, which might be a sort of seventh route, if you think about it! Also, it might be worth just mentioning that the Airdrie to Bathgate route isn't new, it is in fact a reopening of a through route that was closed to passengers in 1956 and to freight in 1982; and that it didn't all reopen at once as the short, single track, unelectrified branch from Ratho Junction to a then-new but now-old Bathgate station, reopened in 1984; and the short extension from Airdrie to a differently-sited Drumgelloch station opened in 1987!

@lazerjetjordanscottcrawfor2008 25 күн бұрын

juniper's are cool becuase i love these trains

@dirty_mac Ай бұрын

Dang you never got to ride the declassified first class on a class 385 (it's declassified on every route except via Falkirk High)

@MichaelTavares Ай бұрын

How does ticketing work? If I turned up at Edinburgh and bought a ticket to Glasgow could I catch a train on any of those routes? Or do I have to buy a ticket for a specific route?

@DitzyNizzy2009 29 күн бұрын

It looks like any of them, as a ticket via each one costs the same.

@roberthillman5057 Ай бұрын

Avanti use Carstairs diverting for Lon Edinburgh service via Birmingham

@Vanmanyo Ай бұрын

Debating about 8 car trains in the comments I will - Chiltern run some 8 car peak regional services from Oxford & Brum to Marylebone so maybe that would count? Oxford could be more commutery but Birmingham is a regional service I would say; it's not ran as an intercity service apart from the 68s! LNWR also run 8 cars from Birmingham to Euston

@pal2011 Ай бұрын

Don’t forget the bus routes that could be faster (and definitely cheaper)

@mrvwbug4423 Ай бұрын

SRE from GQS to Waverly via Falkirk High is pretty quick. Outside of the handful of intermediate stops the train is usually going 100mph for most of that route.

@mrvwbug4423 Ай бұрын

If LNER is withdrawing its Glasgow service does that mean AWC is withdrawing their Edinburgh service? I do know that AWC's Edinburgh service doesn't call in Glasgow, they take the Midcalder bypass to get to Edinburgh without passing through Glasgow.

@CoastwayWill Ай бұрын

Avanti are keeping their Edinburgh runs. There's plenty of service between Edinburgh and Glasgow you can use in place of the LNER service, but Carlisle to Edinburgh would have a frequency of just a single train every two hours without Avanti

@TaffieMproductions Ай бұрын

The one thing you could do is go to sandwich railway station and eat a sandwich on the platforms 😂.

@Dunco3550 Ай бұрын

Then go to nearby Ham Railway Station and eat Ham

@networkerfan 21 күн бұрын

what about via Falkirk Grahams ton

@gordonsteel7483 26 күн бұрын

You missed one although you need to change trains!!!!

@RichardOldroyd 23 күн бұрын

I thought each of you were going to do a route each.

@allanm6246 26 күн бұрын

There is a faster train on the Airdrie - Bathgate line which skips a lot of the stations.

@williamwallacedebruce9221 Ай бұрын

In Scotland Irn Bru kicks the shit out of Pepsi and Coke

@johnclements8534 23 күн бұрын

Glasgow Queen street springburn cumbernauld falkirk Grahamston haymarket edinbugh

@thisisstuart7951 Ай бұрын

I thought you were going to have a race

@camero3266 Ай бұрын

Who are the people you did it with

@InkItOut Ай бұрын

There’s me (Natt), Coastway Will and Clara! :)

@georgerutherford24 Ай бұрын

Meanwhile folks outside the Central belt have no electric lines and not many trains.

@mrvwbug4423 Ай бұрын

At least there's some electric lines. Wales has basically no electric lines except for the small corridor to/from Cardiff. So you get your choice of crammed to the gills 158 or 197 for most trips in Wales.

@bigcrispyhied 9 күн бұрын

52% of the Scottish population stays within 10mls of the M8. I'm afraid the money will nearly always be spent in the central belt.