1968 HEMI Stroker Drops Valve

1968 HEMI Stroker Drops Valve - Can It Be Saved?

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Жыл бұрын

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Nick loves the legendary Hemi engine, and he has built more than a few over the years. Today, he is about to take apart a big 572 Hemi stroker that dropped a valve. Will there be anything left to rebuild?
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Пікірлер: 664

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

It may be a 426 or 472 C.I. Bore is 4.280. No way a 572. Just to let everyone know.

@jimmyford796 Жыл бұрын

4.5” bore 4.5” stroke makes 572ci

@gtsman6954 Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyford796 It's an original block 4.25 bore std, max .06 over.

@JalopyTechnology Жыл бұрын

Lighter valves, new springs and lighter pistons would all help with durability. Great engines....I worked at Mopar dealers from '68 until '72.

@fortyshooter1 Жыл бұрын

Well maybe enough left in bores to clean up? Play hard Pay hard. Man what destruction and cost one valve can do!

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyford796 ....That is correct.

@Mike-Olds-1 Жыл бұрын

WOW that re-defines the term “valve float”

@dewiz9596 Жыл бұрын

As per Clint Eastwood. . .”Every man’s gotta know his limitations “

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Right on.

@michaelmartinez1345 Жыл бұрын

@Dewiz , Great Movie !!! Magnum Force!!! One of my favorite Harry Callahan movies!!!

@I.Live4oldcars.prospecting Жыл бұрын

Wow that's alot of damage. That Hemi is Hurting bad. First for me seeing a Hemi taking apart. I learnt alot.

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Right on.

@davidedgar2818 Жыл бұрын

I've only seen that kind of damage in a turbo charged engine. It is astounding that those pieces flowed through all of those cylinders. WOW!

@brianreynoldson1965 Жыл бұрын

Heck of a "post mortem " on a Hemi. When any internal combustion engine "goes away ", it always tells a story. This was a very interesting story. Merci, Nick.

@genesimons8368 Жыл бұрын

Could see that spark in Nick's eyes when he first mentioned figuring this engine out. The man enjoys a challenge! Such an interesting episode! Thank you Nick and George, you made my day.

@onedayiwillmakesomecontent Жыл бұрын

I can just imagine Nick doing this in the back alley, back in the day, with old school tools! So good to see a master at work!

@glennk1931 Жыл бұрын

It is so devastating to see such an iconic engine suffer this kind of damage. Especially due to its age. I have loved Mopar cars since I was a teenager. The 426 Hemi was my all time favorite. When I was a kid in high school, there were a couple of Hemi cars in the hood. A 68 Charger, and a 68 Coronet. The sound of those engines even at idle was incredible. Hope this Hemi can be saved.

@mynameis9057 2 ай бұрын

I'm somewhat baffled as to how that broken valve made it to the opposite side of the engine. Race Hemis don't have single exhaust, so I don't expect it travelled to the other side that way, so it must've went out up into the intake manifold and visited all of its kin,then up and out of almost every cylinder . That's really one for the books I say!!!! I've seen my share of grenaded engines and rods through the block and such, but I've never seen a visiting valve like that ever before this!!! WOW 😮!!! Thanks for sharing this with us Nick.

@sampayette4921 Жыл бұрын

This channel really helped me grow closer to my dad

@Mike-ie6ee Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're okay Nick. This teardown made me nervous

@Sherlock067 Жыл бұрын

Wow that valve really moved around Nick. Never have I seen this before. Can’t wait to see in the crankcase next! Thanks Nick👍

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@michaelmartinez1345 Жыл бұрын

@Sherlock, I'm guessing here, but the broken valve appears to have made social visits in all but 2 combustion chambers before the engine finally quit turning... Maybe it is still in the intake manifold, maybe it fell out of the intake when it was removed.... What I'm wondering about now is what You are wondering about, damage to the bottom end... We'll find out!!!

@kurtzimmerman1637 Жыл бұрын

when a valve drops its always heartbreaking! happened to me 40 years ago! thanks for the video Nick!

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@P_RO_ Жыл бұрын

If it's low RPM there's a slender hope of re-making a usable engine again. Anything beyond that is miracle territory.

@BobbyTucker Жыл бұрын

I had one drop on my Chevy 409/425 back in 1968, sleeves were involved there too.

@wickedcabinboy Жыл бұрын

@kurtzimmerman1637 - That ain't all a dropped valve breaks. Sometimes it's the bank.

@dwightducker9891 Жыл бұрын

Nick you are a master. Your tear down videos are so educational. Thanks

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@shadvan9494 Жыл бұрын

I had something similar happen on an LS7 454 big block chevy in a drag boat in the early 90's. valve let go, broke in half, part of it embedded in the piston and destroyed the head and piston and broke the cylinder walls when the piston split. the other half was sucked up the intake track, threw the tunnel ram and crossed over to the other side of the engine wedging it between the good intake and open chamber causing the piston to smack and bend that intake valve. almost the entire motor was junk since it cracked both heads, broke the cylinder wall on one cylinder. If i remember correctly, i was only able to salvage the tunnel ram, and crankshaft from that engine. I also remember keeping the oil pan and oil/water heat exchanger. but everything else was junk.

@ck4181 Жыл бұрын

Funny you mention the LS7 big block because the modern day LS7 has had issues dropping valves.

@shadvan9494 Жыл бұрын

all Big Block Chevys are known for having valve train issues. having big valves combined with them being canted toward each other and angled push rods and heavy is a recipe for valvetrain issues. I was unaware that modern LS engines had this problem as well.

@eugenecastles7475 Жыл бұрын

A Monday afternoon, and a wounded Hemi in the shop for some TLC. I have never seen a dropped valve cause so much damage inside an engine. I expected to see what was left of the valve imbedded in the top of the piston, like what Nick showed from his brothers Hemi. Now I'm wondering what the bottom end is going to look like when Nick removes the rotating assembly, and what bits, and pieces are in the oil pan. Great video George!! I always enjoy the teardown videos, they are very informative. You just never know what will come through the door of Nick's Garage, the best KZfaq channel on the net.

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the visit, Eugene. You're the best. We hope you have a great week.

@eugenecastles7475 Жыл бұрын

@@NicksGarage We are in the middle of a Texas heat wave, with the daytime temps well over 100F, and the heat index around 115F. I think I finally got my computer issues solved. Thank you George, I hope that you have a great week too.

@wickedcabinboy Жыл бұрын

@eugenecastles7475 - If you look closely you might see small bits of the valve embedded in the no. 4 piston. I wasn't certain but we didn't get the kind of close up that Eric gives.

@darrenbrisson4336 Жыл бұрын

Love the old stories nick letting people know youre not new at this Canada's mopar guru

@teamshem3853 Жыл бұрын

When I was a young lad, my Dad bought a used motor home and he and I drove to the great state of Texas. Just outside of San Antonio a keeper came loose and the 318 sucked a valve at freeway speed. Cracked the block in 3 places.

@MM_in_Havasu Жыл бұрын

Dang, that engine did a BIG potty! Ouch! Thanks Nick for a great teardown video!

@ImgoneButUrstillHere Жыл бұрын

This has to be the only car channel that uses music just like they do in the movies lol luv it!

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

Glad you love it!

@Z-Bart Жыл бұрын

Jim from Ontario you sent your engine to the right man. Nick will get her running top notch again.

@BobbyTucker Жыл бұрын

How does the saying go? "Horsepower is money, how fast do you wanna go"? lol.

@tomtheplummer7322 Жыл бұрын

It’s not how fast you go, it’s how you go fast.

@apachebill 11 ай бұрын

“You find all your problems on the first drive.” I’m 1400 miles deep in a full restoration. Still finding squeaks, rattles, pops, loose hardware. Oh and a recently developed pan gasket leak. So yeah. Don’t let them fool you. The saga never truly ends. If you ever say “finished” it’s just like the time W landed on that carrier and declared victory. You’ll walk home next time you take it out! Never say it’s finished. We say, “done for now”. Cause we know. 😂

@Australia-ky7kx Жыл бұрын

It was like a detective novel, a' who done it' escapade into a mechanical mystery. I've never seen a happy wander of a valve causing chaos as it travelled around the engine. But our inspector Nick solved the puzzle.

@jeffjankiewicz5100 Жыл бұрын

Wow, I forgot how big the "elephant" engine is. Definitely has malice in the combustion palace. That valve took a trip around the engine. I hope you can save it Nick. Thanks Nick and George for taking us along.

@wickedcabinboy Жыл бұрын

@jeffjankiewicz5100 - Another fan of Eric's, I see. That's precisely what I thought when he spoke of a dropped valve. Hope he posts a video of the bottom end as he dismantles it.

@gcrauwels941 Жыл бұрын

It's almost like the valve head shattered into small pieces before migrating between cylinders. Some of the pistons looked like they had fragments imbedded on top.

@fredcrook8228 Жыл бұрын

"Nick Vs. The Engine That Ate Itself" 😁

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Haha! Horror movie.

@BobbyTucker Жыл бұрын

@@NicksGarage , What a thriller that would be! lol!

@nitr0junki3 Жыл бұрын

If you have only one takeaway from this video, it’s that “it doesn’t matter”.

@burlboone4288 Жыл бұрын

Nick you never disappoint, I always learn something when I watch your videos. Thank you Nick & George 😊

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

Love to hear it !

@mongrelhalfbreedobern Жыл бұрын

The valve's farewell tour

@rosewhite--- Жыл бұрын

what a beautiful engine! solid iron to last forever . hope we will see and hear hemis on the road for decades to come!

@newportbeach3621 Жыл бұрын

Anything can be saved if ur working on it . Nick knows his stuff wish you were close to me .

@lelandcox4089 Жыл бұрын

I watched some guys getting ready for an upcoming race and just warming up a big block Chevy. The motor was not being abused but it made a loud pop! We followed them back bo their garage and watched as they took the motor apart to see what happened. It appeared from the debris that the motor had dropped a valve head. The pieces traveled through the motor quickly and did a lot of damage! The parts on top of the pistons cracked the top of a couple pistons and cracked both heads! They took off the oilpan the next day and descovered a crack in one of the webbs on the block and a broken crankshaft. VERY EXPENSIVE POP!

@oldman454 Жыл бұрын

Out of the three factory big blocks there is nothing more badass in the 426 HEMI AND THAT'S A FACT JACK 🤤

@tomnekuda3818 Жыл бұрын

I forgot just how monsterous those engines are!

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

They sure fill up a room!

@timothyhays1817 Жыл бұрын

Hence, the Nickname the Elephant Engine.

@stevelee5724 Жыл бұрын

They sure are monsters ! Especially when Nick leans on it you can see the size !

@BobbyTucker Жыл бұрын

One really remembers how monsterous they are when one opens up all eight barrels, lol. Reply

@stevelee5724 Жыл бұрын

@BobbyTucker Gday Bobby. Yes Mate, wouldn't that be fun... Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿

@moosemanmagee4495 Жыл бұрын

My grandma said but don't kill you just makes you stronger! This engine sould be a beast in the end.

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Your grandma sounds to be very wise.

@joeljenkins2876 Жыл бұрын

Looking at that hemi on the stand makes it easy to understand how it earned the nickname ‘elephant’!!!!! But, no matter, I’m sure Dr. Nick can save it!!!! He’s the hemi guru!!!!!

@bobdavis3357 Жыл бұрын

If ANYONE can save this Hemi, it's Nick!

@FrankBullitt390 Жыл бұрын

For Hemis Only was another premier Canadian hemi shop, but he has recently relocated to Florida and was having trouble finding staff last I heard.

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Envious of their weather.

@HiTechOilCo Жыл бұрын

@@NicksGarage - You probably aren't envious of snakes, mosquitoes, killer bees, killer ants, alligators, hurricanes every year destroying homes, tropical diseases, flat terrain and swarms of illegal aliens. Count your blessings. :)

@myhemirr Жыл бұрын

Years ago, I dropped an intake valve on #2 cylinder when power shifting 2nd gear at 7200 rpm. It poked a hole in the piston and head. The head of the valve was found in cylinder 3. Fortunately, it did not suffer the carnage that this Hemi did.

@tomcox2565 Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing how that piece of valve worked it’s way through the whole damn top end! And it still hasn’t been found.

@darrinfry2251 Жыл бұрын

Love to see this 80 thousands over with bigger valves plus port work oh yeah .

@bobdavis3357 3 ай бұрын

Had to see this video again. Nick is the Man!

@slickrick5735 Жыл бұрын

That valve went on a world tour!

@stephenhood2948 Жыл бұрын

When you turned the engine to remove the rocker shafts it reminded me of what happened to a guy I used to work with. He was cutting the exhaust off of something with a cutting torch, spraying slag everywhere. Some hot slag got in a nearby trashcan and caused a fuel filter in the trashcan to catch on fire and put pit marks all over the windshield of the Mercedes on the left next to him. You have to be careful. At that same shop I was taking the trans pan off of a Dodge Ram pickup and the pan was stuck on. I had taken all the bolts out and couldn't pull it off so I went to get a mallet, I should have put a couple bolts in the pan, the pan came off and dumped nasty ATF all over the car next to where I was working. You do have to be careful with things like that.

@davewilkirson2320 Жыл бұрын

I have been through this several times. Strange things can happen when disentegration begins. It is always a mystery until the entire engine is opened. Sort of fun really. But can get really expensive.

@trybriguy1357 Жыл бұрын

I have in my tool box, a black hose that fits the spark plug that's been in there since 1972 when I first started working on motors. Not a tool but, a hose that fits over the spark plug. As I was working on pulling the spark plugs, I wanted to make sure I didn't put the wires on the wrong plugs when putting it back together. My mom was hanging clothes on the clothes line so I went over and I stole 8 clips. Just the right size and the hole in the clothes pin was perfect for the width of the wire. I labeled them R1234 and L1234 and I've used them for years!!

@rickyb2200 Жыл бұрын

Wow , Nick I've seen a valve head go go from cylinder to others , what a mess. But it's no problem for the King of Mopar. Thanks for letting us be part of the year down .

@tomstrum6259 Жыл бұрын

What a Dude !! ......Nick makes 'em look like Lifting Aluminum Heads !!!

@dickdaley9059 Жыл бұрын

I recall a friend who purchased a 1969 Coronet R/T with the same cross ram intake. Never saw one before. I understand it was a Dodge show car. Black with red interior under a black vinyl roof. It was spectacular! Automatic transmission would chirp rear tires under light throttle. Everything was stock from the factory. This was fifty years ago and I often hoped that beautiful beast was still with us!

@Ghostdog4 Жыл бұрын

Friday night, blue sky but a rainy weekend predicted. Take my motorcycle out or watch Nick tear down a Hemi and sort out the problem?? No contest, I'm watching Nick.

@brand-x7049 Жыл бұрын

Lordy, that valve must have shattered and blown shrapnel through the whole intake manifold... o!O

@JS-tu1ti 5 ай бұрын

Nick, It is great watching you work. Thank you for making these videos. I enjoy listening to your thought process as you debug problems!!!! - J

@eribertoacedo9505 10 ай бұрын

Unbelievable that valve bounced all over the place!

@deanehammitt7604 Жыл бұрын

That's the craziest thing I've ever seen an engine do.

@joedonnelly9487 Жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh!!! Another very intruiging vid from the Master....Dang... Mystery is a fair way to describe this one... Great job Nick!!

@62cripple Жыл бұрын

What N absolute monster of an engine.....beautiful...!

@chrismadaj8751 Жыл бұрын

My, My George, you got that cool music in the background NICK working on the VALVE Cover having a hard time made. me chuckle a little bit.

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

@victordjinn632 Жыл бұрын

@@NicksGarage I was thinking HOT FUN IN THE SUMMERTIME, Sly & The Family Stone.

@windycityben4850 11 ай бұрын

That’s wild how that valve just bounced around from cylinder to cylinder! Looking forward to see what this customer does with this project.

@yarsmythe Жыл бұрын

"It's got some damage." LOL!!! Wow. Sorry Jim.

@pappy017 Жыл бұрын

Evenin Mr Nick an George! Have a Great Week!!

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@stevepastore7970 Жыл бұрын

I just wonder if there was any damage inside the intake manifold from all that metal bouncing around? Great video Nick and George thank you!!!

@marzsit9833 Жыл бұрын

if the manifold has a vacuum balance crossover it could still have some valve and piston debris stuck in the passages. without a crossover only cylinders 1, 7, 4 and 6 would have damage, but cylinder 8 also had damage so i suspect there is a crossover in it.

@joeromanak8797 Жыл бұрын

We know pistons, heads and cylinders took a hit but I also wondered about collateral damage to intake manifold and exhaust ports. Will we locate the missing valve head? Is the internal damage worse than first imagined? Can this patient be saved? Tune in next week for the next exciting episode of “Dr. Nick Follows the Damage Trail”

@SHILO750 Жыл бұрын

My friend, you obviously know what you’re doing!!

@coreyshort9461 Жыл бұрын

Take a good look around in the intake for the valve pieces....🧐

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

There were tiny bits all over the place.

@glenbrannon7224 Жыл бұрын

Thanks , enjoy watching you tear Hemis down and put them together!

@psk5746 Жыл бұрын

Gosh that is a physically huge engine. It also looks to me like the inlet port gasket surfaces are not parallel to the bore centre line. That must make sealing a challenge

@bushmain Жыл бұрын

If you're not trying hard enough, you'll never break anything. LOL

@peteloomis8456 Жыл бұрын

There used to be a old racers saying that if your not breaking parts your not making enough horse power I remember reading .

@TeamJesus515 11 ай бұрын

Hemi karnage for sure. Nick please keep us posted on this one 👍

@Cultofpersonality09129 Жыл бұрын

Looks like it was a Craigslist rebuild when it was built.ring land and piston skirts everywhere. That oil pan is going to be full of metal. It’ll be a nice boat anchor for someone.

@lucascady4992 Жыл бұрын

Can we just admire the 60's era Hemi with 17 bolt's per head? They apparently knew they were holding back a Monster!!!

@ronwelch6548 Жыл бұрын

Every time I watch your show I always say, (man I wish I was there with you).

@DJTruth_1970 Ай бұрын

Dropped a valve on a race heminat 8000 rpm, lots of damage, saved block and heads. Indy redid the heads. 2 sleeves.

@FWCaptain-kv6sm Жыл бұрын

i like how the mood of the music changes haha spooky

@cpnolto Жыл бұрын

Great content Nick. I was worrying about your Kowalski car if that spring launched across the shop! Glad you moved the engine stand.

@jmptaz Жыл бұрын

From the looks of it the customer had bent the floor with his foot hahahahahah

@ThePontiacgto65 Жыл бұрын

This valve in the piston a true work of art😮

@garyangelstad5212 Жыл бұрын

A new meaning for the term valve float

@BobbyTucker Жыл бұрын

Hey Nick, I haven't read any of the other comments but I think many of us will agree, the owner of this Stroker Hemi drove it quite a bit after it sucked that valve, it had to happen that way unless he was in the upper echelons of the tachometer (Possibly 8,000 rpms or more) when it let loose. I sincerely hope there's no cracks in the block to deal with. I love your show, I want to get up there one day, hopefully, when you have an open house. Have a Great Day, Nick.

@455buick6 Жыл бұрын

That wasn't driven anywhere I don't believe, high rpms caused all of the damage until it finally locked up after it managed to spin down

@ewconway Жыл бұрын

Wow incredible…… the story of the floating broken valve….. amazing

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@bobbyhackney988 Жыл бұрын

That hurts. I just see money burning. Your engine is in good hands

@CORVAIRWILD Жыл бұрын

I would have been faster, but I was admiring a gas powered cement mixer on the rear bumper of a pickup truck, in Madison wiscomma I'm on my way to a Corvette show in Wisconsin Dells

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

Right on.

@fw1421 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen damage like that. Amazing!🙀🙀🙀

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

We could not believe our eyes either.

@mikebaker9574 Жыл бұрын

You should visit the drag races more often lol

@wickedcabinboy Жыл бұрын

@@mikebaker9574 - Or "I Do Cars" on YT. Eric has shown us some spectacular failures.

@scottd4426 Жыл бұрын

What a wizard you are Nick ! knowing enough to turn the engine and which direction a broken valve spring is going to fly ! your a pleasure to watch work .

@Cultofpersonality09129 Жыл бұрын

😂

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@wallace3953 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely incredible....you are the very Best! can't wait to hear it run again, making huge power! Rock On!!!! wow!

@netgnostic1627 Жыл бұрын

Nick, great video. Fascinating story this engine tells. I hope you'll make more videos showing the repair and rebuild of this engine.

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it !

@FreedomRock44 Жыл бұрын

Wow that valve did FLY around that ENGINE!!!!

@ericball6000 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Nick, like you all ways say, you never know what is coming through the door next!, cheers.

@jonathonhass4178 11 ай бұрын

Damn. That thing has had its guts beat out…all of em

@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын

that elephant is going to be awesome !

@DieselAddiction Жыл бұрын

Says a lot for the strength of the engine and components 👍🇦🇺

@tomstrum6259 Жыл бұрын

Great Presentation & Fantastic content video !! .....Keep 'em Coming Nick !!!

@billsprague9783 Жыл бұрын

Nick, I just found your channel, I am really enjoying.what you do and how you do it. I have subscribed to your channel and rang the bell. Thank you for how you are educating the public.

@nickpanaritis4122 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words!

@edwardweisenburg16 Жыл бұрын

Awesome content !!!! Only on Nick's garage 😊

@NicksGarage Жыл бұрын

More to come!

@chrisjeanneret5091 Жыл бұрын

At least you got an interesting desk ornament out of the experiment.

@myleftthumb2294 Жыл бұрын

The valve covers on that thing are like the oil pans on most cars. Wow!!

@paulbergin4239 Жыл бұрын

Definitely a fun episode to watch. Good work.

@tomstrum6259 Жыл бұрын

At 19:34, Looks like the Exhaust valve Seat Ring is totally Missing & Added to the total Loose bits Traveling about & Increasing the mechanical Interference Carnage !! .....Amazing how the relatively Small intake Plenum interconnect Tunnel opening let the debris move to Both heads !!

@alanpaulick7815 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your content Nick. Take care

@pauljanssen7594 8 ай бұрын

Basically the Piston chews up the valve and pieces of the valve float through the float through the intake into other cylinders, it looks like the exhaust valves were cupping. You usually see that on Intake valves.