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@marshall6113
@marshall6113 5 ай бұрын
"I'm the most loyal person money can buy" is a brilliant line!
@TheBlackAmbassodor
@TheBlackAmbassodor 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@kasiahroy2082
@kasiahroy2082 5 ай бұрын
Never take a paycut!!! Owners don’t honor the contract, so neither should players
@bodaciousskies
@bodaciousskies 5 ай бұрын
13 games and 1200+ yards and still asking him to take a pay cut is crazy😭😭😭
@brianhenry7983
@brianhenry7983 5 ай бұрын
He's also giving them lots of losing
@Hypnotiq406
@Hypnotiq406 5 ай бұрын
He also hasn’t played a full season since 2020 if I’m correct
@Travis89-ob5tt
@Travis89-ob5tt 5 ай бұрын
Khalil Mack had 17 sacks and he took a pay cut. These WR's are making way too much anyway.
@Hypnotiq406
@Hypnotiq406 5 ай бұрын
@@Travis89-ob5tt exactly. Dude hasn’t played a full season in like 3 years and he thinks he can call the shots😂
@wh1skeybud
@wh1skeybud 5 ай бұрын
@@Hypnotiq406he doesn’t think, he got what he wanted 😂 and him being so injury prone is exactly why he wouldn’t take a pay cut. like fuck y’all i need all the money i can get while i can still get it. people who think these athletes should take pay cuts are crazy, you have a responsibility to your family to do everything in your power to set them up forever. that’s all that matter, not the team lol
@starttheconvopod
@starttheconvopod 5 ай бұрын
Shout out to Unc on this convo. He’s evolving on letting Ocho talk a lot more and it’s beautiful to see.
@Acradus
@Acradus 5 ай бұрын
It especially works because when ocho gets his full point out, its brilliant. You can easily splice him or clip him and think hes stupid, but with full context hes smart
@Chaoskae
@Chaoskae 5 ай бұрын
And people still want players to be loyal to organizations that do shit like that 😂😂😂
@thedangerwich5476
@thedangerwich5476 5 ай бұрын
I have the theory that over the decades owners or commissioners funneled money to media outlets to make player loyalty as one sidedly expected than team or franchise loyalty to players. Lets teams off the hook and makes players ashamed for leaving teams. Two birds one stone.
@757Bricksquad
@757Bricksquad 5 ай бұрын
Who are these people? They’re not in media…they’re not in comment sections. Who are these people that want players to be loyal outside of fans just wanting a good player to stay at their team…?
@Chaoskae
@Chaoskae 5 ай бұрын
@@757Bricksquad these people are you
@J-Bo-hr9zp
@J-Bo-hr9zp 5 ай бұрын
It bothers me fields left my bears but I'm glad he gone . Keenan won't be here next yr either.
@PatriccSellapound372
@PatriccSellapound372 5 ай бұрын
I went to school with his wife she’s from the Monterey county. She’s a stand up woman and great person ! It’s awesome to see her and her family flourishing 🙏🏾 Keenan Allen is a smart brutha
@scattau41
@scattau41 5 ай бұрын
I’m sure Pactricc Sell-A-Pound is a great judge of character 😂
@carloscoriano3019
@carloscoriano3019 5 ай бұрын
Jaylan Johnson from San Francisco 8:00 8:00
@That0neChanne1
@That0neChanne1 5 ай бұрын
Damn now Ocho sending aphorisms like Grammy Sharpe "Loyalty aint nothing but a word in the dictionary between opportunity and convenience"
@sohailnavin346
@sohailnavin346 5 ай бұрын
These nfl teams getting crazier each season
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 5 ай бұрын
THIS IS WHY NBA PLAYERS. DON'T HONOR LOYALTY.
@louieblalock7113
@louieblalock7113 5 ай бұрын
@@coreythomas3633I don’t really think that’s the same thing . NBA players don’t take pay cuts they have guaranteed contracts and the top players on nba teams are rarely ever traded without their elicit permission. Unless you are a franchise qb. You’re trade-able in football . For example Russ , dame , KD,harden , lebron all Requests trades , nba teams just don’t trade them even if they could get hella value for them
@isthatdave55
@isthatdave55 5 ай бұрын
@@louieblalock7113fax in the nba if you are a star of any kind the team will usually try to move heaven and earth to keep you. Most would rather have a star and be sorry than rebuild, but because said star doesn't wanna rebuild a trade happens
@LeRicckk
@LeRicckk 5 ай бұрын
​@coreythomas3633 very different sports my guy, cant compare
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 5 ай бұрын
@@coreythomas3633completely different organizations and rules. Not a good comparison at all.
@AndreCustomReviews
@AndreCustomReviews 5 ай бұрын
Asking pro bowlers to take pay cuts every season just to be ass every season is nasty work
@rubens4210
@rubens4210 5 ай бұрын
Diabolical
@Bman32x
@Bman32x 5 ай бұрын
And overpay their QBs because of “the market”? Trash.
@Hypnotiq406
@Hypnotiq406 5 ай бұрын
What year was the last time he played a full season? So he’s not holding up his end of the contract either 🤷🏻‍♂️
@kingralo5954
@kingralo5954 5 ай бұрын
@@Hypnotiq406so when he outperforms the contract should he get a new one or people like you will say he signed it so honor it
@Hypnotiq406
@Hypnotiq406 5 ай бұрын
@@kingralo5954 how has he outperformed his contract when he hasn’t played a full season since 2019. He played 16 in 2021, but he still had lingering injuries that season too. Stop saying he outperformed his contract when in 2022 he played 10 games and last year he played 13. That’s not outperforming. That is doing a full season work in a half season cause he can’t stay healthy.
@ScoutsHonor.
@ScoutsHonor. 5 ай бұрын
Keenan Allen is my fav WR for the last 6 years. Because I played WR growing up. Just pure skill. He has no weakness.
@willismartin9196
@willismartin9196 5 ай бұрын
Nightcap is just getting better, and better, and better ! 😊
@david_XLy
@david_XLy 5 ай бұрын
Kslay 13…bolt gang for life. Never forget this is a business people. Keenan has mouths to feed and a retirement to consider. I am going to miss him, but support his decision. As a chargers fan, I grateful to have watched such a legend. I will keep your jersey clean, and wear it proudly.
@ryanwhite9437
@ryanwhite9437 5 ай бұрын
Lol chargers are a joke.
@flyshii_only9140
@flyshii_only9140 5 ай бұрын
Taking a pay cut and living in LA is INSANE!
@kelvinsekwati4016
@kelvinsekwati4016 5 ай бұрын
Unc was quick with that math😅😅
@selfmade8884
@selfmade8884 5 ай бұрын
Keenan taking a pay cut is crazy but asking Khalil Mack to take a pay cut after the season he had is insanity?!
@PactWitDaRacks
@PactWitDaRacks 5 ай бұрын
He has less time left and he’s not a veteran on the chargers he’s new to this org
@user-qi8cl9cx4g
@user-qi8cl9cx4g 5 ай бұрын
@@PactWitDaRackswhat you mean less time
@FrankGallagher-OG
@FrankGallagher-OG 5 ай бұрын
@@user-qi8cl9cx4gmeaning he’s closer to being washed then Allen is & Allen is a charger from day one that’s why it makes his worst. That’s what he means
@PactWitDaRacks
@PactWitDaRacks 5 ай бұрын
@@FrankGallagher-OG exactly well put🔥
@WrightK372
@WrightK372 5 ай бұрын
I’m the most loyal person you can buy, all facts
@992porter
@992porter 5 ай бұрын
Fire lol
@Marcus.c25
@Marcus.c25 5 ай бұрын
Doug baldwin had a crazy crossover on the field too
@chromebook2447
@chromebook2447 5 ай бұрын
I’m just sitting here remember when he made Josh Norman bend over and grab his ankles lol.
@truthseekersthenewomega97
@truthseekersthenewomega97 5 ай бұрын
Doug's route running was crazy. And having Golden Tate switching through in the slot was a wild time with Tyler locket on outside
@Tumbo8
@Tumbo8 5 ай бұрын
Tate wont in Seattle the same time as them 2 were​@truthseekersthenewomega97
@truthseekersthenewomega97
@truthseekersthenewomega97 5 ай бұрын
@@Tumbo8 what you mean? Tate was there when locket was a rookie and it's why they let him go and to the Lions, especially with the beef that was going on between Tate and the defense over one of them messing/dating Tates sister or he was dating one of theirs something in that nature.
@truthseekersthenewomega97
@truthseekersthenewomega97 5 ай бұрын
@@Tumbo8 my fault Tate was traded the year before, jayron kearse was the guy i was thinking about and i also got mixed up with the lions and Marvin Jones😂🤣
@averymoore9144
@averymoore9144 5 ай бұрын
“I’m the most loyal person money can buy” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 facts
@work4whatyouwant477
@work4whatyouwant477 5 ай бұрын
Asking your franchise player to take a pay cut after having his best season is crazy
@pacificbeatz5440
@pacificbeatz5440 5 ай бұрын
That’s the thing, he’s not the franchise player. Justin is making 50 mill plus
@Hypnotiq406
@Hypnotiq406 5 ай бұрын
Bro… he doesn’t play full seasons, stays injured, and now have a good chance and going to the Super Bowl. Ok bud go on ahead to the shit bears idgaf. Mack and bosa both took a pay cut to win a ring. Keenan Allen has made probably 75 million in his career. To think money is more important that bringing the first ring to the chargers after you are already rich asf is weird to me
@JACQUEZJOHNSON23
@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 5 ай бұрын
​@@Hypnotiq406u say this but will glaze Herbert tho
@kingralo5954
@kingralo5954 5 ай бұрын
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23that part! QB don’t have to take one and why do it matters if he made 75 million he made the owners even more and if he worth more it is what it is
@Hypnotiq406
@Hypnotiq406 5 ай бұрын
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 I think he has a completely shit offensive line so it’s hard to look great, but if you don’t think he isn’t in the top level of talent in the quarterback position you are blind.
@Makaveli3k.
@Makaveli3k. 5 ай бұрын
How many GMs have said “it’s business”? Get yo money K.A
@darronvaun
@darronvaun 5 ай бұрын
Ocho with the bar on loyalty 🔥
@btoneymmc
@btoneymmc 5 ай бұрын
Keenan took the Mike Evans approach I love it.
@CHAMP_theBULLDOG27
@CHAMP_theBULLDOG27 5 ай бұрын
Mike actually took a pay cut when Brady was there
@PactWitDaRacks
@PactWitDaRacks 5 ай бұрын
We should’ve cut Joey bosa this is the only problem. And we will revisit this when Joey has another mediocre season I bet
@carlgilmore-murry5789
@carlgilmore-murry5789 5 ай бұрын
@@CHAMP_theBULLDOG27 Mike knew he actually had a chance to get a ring & it worked out for it
@kellenking5108
@kellenking5108 5 ай бұрын
To take a pay cut after your best season is so disrespectful.
@blizz1004
@blizz1004 5 ай бұрын
Facts.. owners be drinking that brown water
@unmhking
@unmhking 5 ай бұрын
​@@blizz1004it's true but as a GM who's 25 Mil over the cap why not try like they did 😂
@Zappbrannigan83
@Zappbrannigan83 5 ай бұрын
Mack took a paycut after a career year 🤷‍♀️
@FrankGallagher-OG
@FrankGallagher-OG 5 ай бұрын
@@Zappbrannigan83but he’s also closer to retirement/washed then Allen & Allen was a day 1 charger that’s what makes it worst. Mack isn’t a day one
@danielresendez229
@danielresendez229 5 ай бұрын
His best season isn't impressive compared to others, 11th in yards 19th in td, not saying he should take the pay cut but he's not really setting the world on fire with his career best
@Bman32x
@Bman32x 5 ай бұрын
Time to get rid of the salary cap. Make team owners honor the contracts they agreed to and guarantee salaries.
@qjustblessed1
@qjustblessed1 5 ай бұрын
Facts
@papa_starch4
@papa_starch4 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact.. Stevie Johnson got to mentor Keenan Allen in his early years with the chargers, Stevie J taught Slaya a ton back in the day
@josephbuffington3143
@josephbuffington3143 5 ай бұрын
As a charger fan, we’re not surprised by this. This is something that the chargers ownership and general managers usually do we did it to LaDainian Thomason when we let him go before we should have
@jessebanda4523
@jessebanda4523 5 ай бұрын
Any logical charger fan would tell you that the Chargers should of let go of LT sooner and kept Michael Turner instead. They paid the price of keeping LT after 2007..
@michaelbell75
@michaelbell75 5 ай бұрын
Allen is 32, injury prone and was going to be a $34 million cap hit this year. Nope. We can easily replace him with MHJ or Nabers and won't have to pay either one for 4 years. Thats called smart football and staying away from bad contracts and massive cap hits for old players. Something Charger fans arent used to yet. The Chiefs let Tyreek Hill, arguably the best WR in the league, walk rather than overpay him. Think they would have paid Allen $34 million this year? lol This is how you start building a winning culture.
@BigNorm87
@BigNorm87 5 ай бұрын
​@@michaelbell75if mhj or nabers falls to you guys. Two other teams before you guys are wr needy.
@terrencetaylor8196
@terrencetaylor8196 5 ай бұрын
Ocho with those football jersey, he is killing it!!
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 5 ай бұрын
Old school early 2000s Real kit (early 2000s being old is making me feel super old)
@williecarswelljr7518
@williecarswelljr7518 5 ай бұрын
Keenan Allen is right on the money. I wish I might take a pay cut after I had my best season.
@emmanuelvazquez3735
@emmanuelvazquez3735 5 ай бұрын
GM just came out and also said they were going give him an extension bonus. It actually sounds Allen wanted out in Trade
@dakotarussell1263
@dakotarussell1263 5 ай бұрын
This hurt as a chargers fan
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 5 ай бұрын
“They always talking about loyalty child please”😂😂😂
@lawrencereid2767
@lawrencereid2767 5 ай бұрын
Adams runs routes very good also
@joelopez7459
@joelopez7459 5 ай бұрын
"loyalty" is sports version of "this is a family" 🤣
@ChilleBruh
@ChilleBruh 5 ай бұрын
“Hey Ke, you been one of the most loyal, and most productive players in Team History. I know we took advantage of your rookie contract as long as possible, and tried to pay you as little as possible the whole time you here, but can you take even less to stay?” They got him twisted!!
@lucrative6477
@lucrative6477 5 ай бұрын
He said no and got traded. I don’t see the big deal. You people whine a lot.
@theblinkerx
@theblinkerx 5 ай бұрын
What is your suggestion? They pay that price for a overrated receiver just because of tenure?
@terryb...4301
@terryb...4301 5 ай бұрын
​@@theblinkerxYou didn't have a problem when they paid an overrated quarterback that has not accomplished anything in his NFL career.
@theblinkerx
@theblinkerx 5 ай бұрын
@@terryb...4301 if you think Herbert is overrated your drunk almost every metrics proves he is historically great. He plays for the Chargers. Winning isnt a QB stat its a situation stat
@wanyaisneed3972
@wanyaisneed3972 5 ай бұрын
​@@theblinkerxI mean if hes your quarterback only consistent receiver and is off the books next year hell yeah you pay him. Besides i think hes properly compensated when he catches over 100 balls with 1000+ yds a year.
@Rodricktyrone
@Rodricktyrone 5 ай бұрын
Tom telasco created a shit show of the salary cap. New management came In this was their only options. Cut Mike W & ask the other 3 cap hits to take a pay cut or get traded. Just business at the end of the day.
@seantate81
@seantate81 5 ай бұрын
I showed up to camp with no contract 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kelvinopoku3793
@kelvinopoku3793 5 ай бұрын
I love how highly ocho speaks of Keenan Allen ❤
@marquescoleman724
@marquescoleman724 5 ай бұрын
😂 “I’m the most loyal person 💵 can buy”
@Noliestold-np6qi
@Noliestold-np6qi 5 ай бұрын
He said bye Felicia!
@IbeSyke
@IbeSyke 5 ай бұрын
" They just lost Mike Williams. Don't try Keenan." Stop it, they let them go it was time we been doing the same crap for 11 years. Talesco created this mess. Grown-ups are in the building now
@jayjohnson7646
@jayjohnson7646 5 ай бұрын
Stop it, Allen is one of the best route runners in the game. At least top 5. Them boys don’t grow on trees and you guys have no weapons. Smh poor Herbert. Yall better hope he stays
@IbeSyke
@IbeSyke 5 ай бұрын
@jayjohnson7646 not arguing that he's not, but it is time to move on . Mike , Keenan , ekeler have been here since Rivers . Hebert will be fine. i have full confidence in this front office, plus I am hopeful for this year, but 2025 is when I expect greatness
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 5 ай бұрын
I don't like players having to take paycuts at all. Not when the NFL is making this much money and players have such short shelf lives. That said, you getting paid big money means there's a lot less for your teammates, so you gotta be a bit open minded to team-friendly deals if you wanna win or keep guys you would lose otherwise.
@user-qd4mm2zq5u
@user-qd4mm2zq5u 5 ай бұрын
The thing that baffles me, is that there is only a small percentile who truly love the game and play it for the love and want to win and build a legacy, most just wanna get they bag and change their families lives, respect to both imo
@kingralo5954
@kingralo5954 5 ай бұрын
You say that but if you had a job and it pays 100 an hour and you know from experience you’re worth 100 per hour and the company ask you to take 60 so they can get the other guy at 60 would you be ok and take the cut or go to another company?? Be honest
@tjayk9127
@tjayk9127 5 ай бұрын
It’s about getting the best team under the cap as possible that’s why they ask them for paycuts. Nothing about cheap. That’s why Mahomes just took a small pay cut and restructured to keep Chris Jones.
@user-qd4mm2zq5u
@user-qd4mm2zq5u 5 ай бұрын
@@kingralo5954 you got the wrong one I’m unequivocally getting my worth and that’s why I respect what Keenan Allen did and what lesean McCoy did in buffalo, the idea of a billionaire asking a millionaire to take a pay cut fucking perplexes me and it’s even more wild they convinced most of the public football fans that the players are dickheads lmao 🤣 It’s laughable, but I was just genuinely surprised with how many don’t love the game anymore, but it makes sense, people don’t realize they are shaving years off their life that they could live long naturally without pain, and suffering, which is nothing short of what the nfl is, it’s pain, it’s suffering, but they do it to strife for excellence and get that dollar salary, I respect both bro, I respect the Tom Brady, the Russell Westbrook In the nba currently on a 2 million dollar deal lmao 🤣and I respect the Keenan Allen’s and the shady mccoys of the world, All I was conveying is that I was surprised how many players don’t treat it like a dream and not a business, but I am not the one sacrificing my mind body and soul for the game either
@user-qd4mm2zq5u
@user-qd4mm2zq5u 5 ай бұрын
@@tjayk9127 precisely bro I respect that, and I also respect lebron James taking his 45 mil a year and going home too, cause say he takes 30 and tries the Tom Brady shit, who can they really bring in w 15 mil that will put them over the hump ?!
@dapperdoggo8347
@dapperdoggo8347 5 ай бұрын
He been doing this. He stat pads beginning of season then magically gets injured and can’t play the last games. As a long time chargers fan it sucks to see him go but he really wasn’t the best bet for us and he’s on the back end of his career so hope he have fun in Chicago.
@TCraig00
@TCraig00 5 ай бұрын
Don't forget Doug Baldwin was smooth with the basketball styles crossovers in his routes. Not on the same level as Keenan Allen, but under appreciated.
@omgfro
@omgfro 5 ай бұрын
Ocho is so transparent. He argues against using stats to judge players then.whem it fits his argument he uses stats like with Keenan having his "best year" 😂😂😂 this dude is just making a fool of himself
@IamBlackMagic03
@IamBlackMagic03 5 ай бұрын
Nah that's just Ocho being Ocho. He does it in a way that makes it funny. It's part of his charm
@6god999
@6god999 5 ай бұрын
I see a lot of people saying dont take a paycut but brady played great multiple seasons and still would take a paycut to help the team and win rings so i understand you either wanna take chances and win rings or follow the money
@ducekong7878
@ducekong7878 5 ай бұрын
Lmaoo ocho said he beef blushing lately 🤣 Pause
@radioblipmode3143
@radioblipmode3143 5 ай бұрын
“Cha please” 😂
@All.Natural.
@All.Natural. 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@sicklymaad
@sicklymaad 5 ай бұрын
Billionaires asking employees for discounts. Ain’t that a bih. 😂😂😂
@Bukkaketsunami89
@Bukkaketsunami89 5 ай бұрын
Im glad Ocho brought up Stevie Johnson and Keenan Allen i was hyped to see them in the same uniform. Gates running his basketball routes inside was fun to watch too. Johnson, Allen, and Ocho were my favorite receivers to watch growing up
@deetee5316
@deetee5316 5 ай бұрын
I knew Unc would love what Keenan did cuz he been preaching get your money now
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 5 ай бұрын
“I’m not doing it I came off my best season”💯
@BoomorBust
@BoomorBust 5 ай бұрын
These aren't usually paycuts. Ocho is partially right. They move the base salary down and spread it back not forward. Then they convert part of the base into bonuses to spread it out more. It is most definitely a restructure.
@WopJr
@WopJr 5 ай бұрын
listen to what you just said, they lower the base salary. meaning the game checks you get every week. that’s a pay cut.
@BoomorBust
@BoomorBust 5 ай бұрын
@WopJr You get paid the money in the bonus it will either be paid to you in another check or the same check. You still get the money 🙄
@WopJr
@WopJr 5 ай бұрын
@@BoomorBust and your base salary is still lowered
@BoomorBust
@BoomorBust 5 ай бұрын
@@WopJr I'm confused on what part you aren't getting. You still get the money. It doesn't matter if it comes from your base salary or someone else.
@FrankGallagher-OG
@FrankGallagher-OG 5 ай бұрын
No that’s a restructuring of the contract not a a pay cut. It’s two different things completely. If they ask u to take a pay cut their asking u to take less money to play if their asking u to restructure their asking to to re work the way they are paying u
@IceHouse0
@IceHouse0 5 ай бұрын
5:17 "EUgRRhhH" lmao
@qouta1456
@qouta1456 5 ай бұрын
I don't blame Keenan for leaving bc he's old and this will be his last big contract. So, it's a bad take to say the Chargers did Keenan dirty when he got two big contracts from them. Mack and Bosa want to win while Keenan looking only at the money.
@WopJr
@WopJr 5 ай бұрын
ain’t like they gave him those contracts for no reason, he earned them. and it’s a reason he’s worried about his money. he made the right choice.
@wanyaisneed3972
@wanyaisneed3972 5 ай бұрын
The Charger became cap compliant when they restructured mack and bosa, a deal that cost them no money so it has nothing to do with winning, and cutting Williams. They was literally asking for money they had promised him back, that they didn't need for no compensation.
@greatone8841
@greatone8841 5 ай бұрын
LAC did Ke dirty. Does the Front Office take less if/when they get the draft right one year? Same principle. They love you until it's time to PROVE IT.
@carlgilmore-murry5789
@carlgilmore-murry5789 5 ай бұрын
Mack & Bosa most likely would’ve been traded or cut had they refused.. yall act like these guys don’t got families to take care of too.. tell these billionaires to go in their pockets, what I look like taking a paycut when you make more money than me
@joelopez7459
@joelopez7459 5 ай бұрын
bru chargers aint winnin nuthin
@yaboiturboshot3148
@yaboiturboshot3148 5 ай бұрын
Stevie Johnson, Keenan Allen, and Doug Baldwin!
@dangelo_912
@dangelo_912 5 ай бұрын
So Keenan had his best year? Can somebody relay that to Herbert lovers who swear he doesn't have talent surrounded around him
@Booyaahh5050
@Booyaahh5050 5 ай бұрын
Keenan Allen was literally it. One reciever don't cut it bruh
@brianstollings6416
@brianstollings6416 5 ай бұрын
Keenan Allen has never once had double digit TDs and often times isn’t a thousand yard guy either. His avg season is 900 yds and 7tds. That’s not elite and he’s going into yr 12 or 13.
@KennethBryant86
@KennethBryant86 5 ай бұрын
lol he had his best year cuz Herbert threw him the ball every play no one else to throw to
@Youuuutubbeee
@Youuuutubbeee 5 ай бұрын
Casual
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 5 ай бұрын
Keenan was out for 7 games 2 seasons ago and 4 games this recent season. Mike Williams, who is their 2nd option, was out 4 games 2 seasons ago and he missed pretty much the entirety of this recent season. The Chargers defense (which consumes a ton of their cap) hasn't ranked above 21st in Herbert's entire career. Last season they were 24th. The year before that, they were 29th. The defense has been a huge failure, they can't run the ball, and their top 2 receivers haven't been healthy together since 3 years ago. Idk what you want Herbert to do lol. I know it's cool to hate on Herbert now, but it's just silly to point at Keenan as if that's "surrounding" Herbert with talent.
@terryharris8228
@terryharris8228 5 ай бұрын
Ima chargers fan and he right get yo bag especially of your best performance
@sammiemims3089
@sammiemims3089 5 ай бұрын
Man there is so many good WR coming into the league now. Hope they not caught up look at the next thing while they had a good thing.
@AdityaSharma-gc9zh
@AdityaSharma-gc9zh 5 ай бұрын
I agree with Unc and Ocho (as always 😂)
@luisma7142
@luisma7142 5 ай бұрын
Needed to move from the old ways, only reason he had the year he had its becouse of the lac of ability from the OC to do something else that throw the ball to KA. Love him but we need to do things diferent.
@sturner973
@sturner973 5 ай бұрын
They basically asked him to take a pay cut at the height of his market value, that's when u supposed to get paid even more
@michaelbell75
@michaelbell75 5 ай бұрын
Height of his market? Not even close. Hes 32, injury prone and was a $34 million cap hit this year, no thanks. You think anyone is paying him anywhere close to that next year? lol. Justin Jefferson is only going to get around $30 million a year on his new deal. Keenan will be lucky to get $15 million a year at 33.
@sturner973
@sturner973 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelbell75 If he's coming off of his best season is that not the height of his market value?
@michaelbell75
@michaelbell75 5 ай бұрын
@@sturner973 his best season was 2017 😂
@Chief24.7
@Chief24.7 5 ай бұрын
No harm in asking us there lol
@Nexta12321
@Nexta12321 5 ай бұрын
This convo, like most on night cap regarding players, forgot to provide the context as to why the chargers asked the question in the first place
@kevinduprey9326
@kevinduprey9326 5 ай бұрын
😅 remember when Greenbay was punishment trade for players?? A pay cut and a humility cut...oh boy.. boy,boy 🎵🎵
@661sInfamous
@661sInfamous 5 ай бұрын
Born and raised charger fan!! Allen Was loyal to the fam and this shiit was dirty n straight up hurt n put a bad taste
@chrisdale7005
@chrisdale7005 5 ай бұрын
Things that matter in the NFL are a good qb and cap space
@taintedr6100
@taintedr6100 5 ай бұрын
Ocho just dropped a gotdang Bar sheesh
@Raider870
@Raider870 5 ай бұрын
As a Raider fan thank you for getting rid of the raider killer 😂😂😂😂😂
@brianhenry7983
@brianhenry7983 5 ай бұрын
Keenan was about keenan, now he has to freese his ass in Chicago 😂
@JimSchranz-ow4qu
@JimSchranz-ow4qu 5 ай бұрын
Welcome to Chicago and Caleb Williams/ DJ Moore 💥
@bricelevai8520
@bricelevai8520 5 ай бұрын
Well, this was Keenan’s best season, and that says it all. He’s amazing, he’s 32 and he’s injury prone and he wants tons of targets…. In other words, he’s not worth it. If Khalil Mack is willing to take a cut, Keenan could have too… it’s his choice to put money first. Millionaires wanting more millions is not good for team building. He’s out and the chargers are better off without him
@wanyaisneed3972
@wanyaisneed3972 5 ай бұрын
Mack didn't take a pay cut. He restructured. He gets to keep all of his money and the cap hit this yeae gets lowered now but more is put down the line.
@Pure_Presha
@Pure_Presha 5 ай бұрын
$1.7 plus Caleb Williams...
@maingod1709
@maingod1709 5 ай бұрын
They did Herbert dirty too that was his number one
@tyefrechette7096
@tyefrechette7096 5 ай бұрын
Anyone gonna put up them numbers when Herbert looking your way 8/10 plays😂
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 5 ай бұрын
“Loyalty is nothing but a word in the dictionary between opportunity and convenience”
@metorphoric
@metorphoric 5 ай бұрын
I think GB offered Adams more money. He said his decision was due to Rodgers retiring or not and now wanting to wait on GB to "rebuild". To be fair, rebuilding for most teams is a least a year or two. GB did it a season later and had massive success. He also wanted to reunite with Carr but we all know how that worked out. Money is great but Adams comes across as someone who wants a ring as well. I don't see him getting there in the AFC. Too much competition.
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 5 ай бұрын
Love Keenan, hope he does well, but everyone was asked to take a pay cut. Herbert was the only exception but the teason for that is they intentionally frontloaded his new deal so by year two it will free up cap space to load out the team.
@andreskukurelo703
@andreskukurelo703 5 ай бұрын
Sick ass jersey Ocho finally u were a Madrid jersey .. HALA MADRID Y NADA MAS!!!
@FuriousTheGeorge
@FuriousTheGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Too many people get hung up on state income tax. A state that doesn't have it makes up for it by having higher property taxes, sales, gas, etc...
@quincee3376
@quincee3376 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't a state like Florida have cheap gas though? Idk. I live in Canada.
@LionelTurner777
@LionelTurner777 5 ай бұрын
Chargers went 5-12 last year... Mad cap problems.. Bounce.
@luiscornieles4456
@luiscornieles4456 5 ай бұрын
It's OK for the teams to screw over players, but when the players go on to get their money, the fans a butt hurt.
@trident2309
@trident2309 5 ай бұрын
Keenan’s a hell of a route runner, but when he goes against the Revis’s of the world and Surtains etc he gets slowed down
@kevinpatterson748
@kevinpatterson748 5 ай бұрын
Life long chargers fan!!!!! Would love to see keenan in the powder blue still, but a 37 million cap hit is crazy. I understand why they let him go, but hope they do like they did with LT. When he decides to retire, they give him that 1 day contract and he reitres as a charger. This years draft is loaded with receivers, and we got the no 5 pick, i can see their logic on this. Doesn't make me super happy, but it is understandable
@eaglesphan5650
@eaglesphan5650 5 ай бұрын
Allen looks like J. Cole lol.
@llkla4507
@llkla4507 5 ай бұрын
everybody sleep on chicago takin bowers w their second pick .. there’s a bunch of underrated receivers available like ladd polk mitchell etc
@MiloTheRuler
@MiloTheRuler 5 ай бұрын
I love how Ocho didn't make it about him, and gave love to Keenan and Stevie Johnson... But real ones know that Ocho had the best feet and best routes in the game!!!
@eduran777ify
@eduran777ify 5 ай бұрын
What year is that Madrid jersey looks clean
@Ipodicusparanormal
@Ipodicusparanormal 5 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for some speed at WR. ✌🏻
@graydontron1718
@graydontron1718 5 ай бұрын
Unc and Cuz . Y’all crazy lol
@fonzarelli6804
@fonzarelli6804 5 ай бұрын
I'm not mad at Keenan or the Franchise.....it sucks we lost him but I'm loving our current cap space⚡️⚡️
@user-hz8wn5wt6e
@user-hz8wn5wt6e 5 ай бұрын
U got some in cali huh !!!😬 🤣
@sterlt.2836
@sterlt.2836 5 ай бұрын
Yal be telling pro athletes to honor contracts, be loyal, etc then call them selfish when they aren’t coming up off the money that they and the team signed for 😂.
@ivangonzalez1987
@ivangonzalez1987 5 ай бұрын
Where was all this praise during the past few seasons? People sure love to hate on the Chargers
@mahersalthomas1739
@mahersalthomas1739 5 ай бұрын
Guys the team owners are their boss, if your boss came to you at work one day and asked hey can you take a pay cut. 😂😂😂
@SuperMogul
@SuperMogul 5 ай бұрын
I'm not taken any type of pay cut. Your lucky he's not asking for an increase.
@Blackirish619
@Blackirish619 5 ай бұрын
It’s new management. You’ll all see how this team is NOT what it was these last 11+ years
@texasmadd47
@texasmadd47 5 ай бұрын
Living and working in California, then asking him to take a pay cut is CRAAAZY!
@864realer5
@864realer5 5 ай бұрын
Dan Morley did the same thing to James Harden. 😅😅 GM’s should be fined for stuff like this
@beezyhill2218
@beezyhill2218 5 ай бұрын
Unc popped that blue diamond frfr while he was talking
@2TrillSenna
@2TrillSenna 5 ай бұрын
I only support players i like, never support an organization.
@user-yn4uu8gu1u
@user-yn4uu8gu1u 5 ай бұрын
As a Chargers fan for life I'm not hating on KA get your money bro.
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