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Nihilism in The Brave Little Toaster

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@anonymouswitness3835
@anonymouswitness3835 2 ай бұрын
This wasn't a childhood movie for me -- I only saw it starting in my teenage years, but I connected to it immediately. The fear of being unable to perform your function and the tragedy of thwarted function hit something deep. I actually interpreted the objects' differing perspectives as being linked to their function -- for example, in the scene where the blanket doesn't have anyone to cuddle with, the tragedy doesn't come merely from its loneliness, but from the fact that it is made to cuddle and be cuddled, and this function is being thwarted. You can see how it tries to cuddle with itself, but fails, because of all the objects it most of all requires relationship to be what it was made to be. I do think the fact that their fierce, hopeful alliance to their function is validated by the movie's end suggests that rather than being nihilistic, the movie walks through nihilism and emerges on the other side. Kind of similar to The Man Who Was Thursday in some ways, or some of the more hopeful 40k fan content. "Hope means hoping when things are hopeless, or it is no virtue at all... As long as matters are really hopeful, hope is mere flattery or platitude; it is only when everything is hopeless that hope begins to be a strength." - G. K. Chesterton But there is some inherent tragedy, since the appliances' master is also mortal and flawed. This is something I've wrestled with in my object stories -- humans make very poor gods.
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic insights, and so well-written. Thank you
@anonymouswitness3835
@anonymouswitness3835 2 ай бұрын
@@creativedestructionvideo Thank you for the video! I liked it a lot
@JamesJoy-yc8vs
@JamesJoy-yc8vs Ай бұрын
​@@anonymouswitness3835 what a wonderful quote! I've felt the premise is similar to what you said; that the act of "being hopeful" can be, in itself, one's purpose. And that's what I took as the movie's message (if it in fact needs one). But the Chesterton quote says it far more articulately than I ever could. Thank you for that
@tomfoolery-4444
@tomfoolery-4444 2 ай бұрын
I would love new BLT stories that center on planned obsolescence, screens replacing knobs and levers and dials, and the trend of adding precarious computers to appliances that have gotten along just fine without them
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
I would be interested in how it would be recontextualized with internet connection
@tamagothchic
@tamagothchic 2 ай бұрын
That would be amazing, and could easily show how fallible they are if the wifi goes out or how many of the features are based on novelty rather than convenience or utility. As well as the lack of repair ability for both new and old; I can't personally or easily fix an old VCR or a new iPad, but the former lasted two decades and the latter less than 5 years.
@mollieh4426
@mollieh4426 2 ай бұрын
I finished the video! I had such vague memories of this film, your video was so interesting! I love when you analyze media through the lens of philosophy
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate you
@tomfoolery-4444
@tomfoolery-4444 2 ай бұрын
Comment for the comment god! This deserves so many more eyeballs
@vampboy7
@vampboy7 2 ай бұрын
Watched it all the way through. Love your videos. I work in the industry and want to make things better. Watching your videos makes me want to make great films that will last for generations.
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! That means a lot.
@theosomoza825
@theosomoza825 Күн бұрын
I have a very fuzzy 4 year old memory of this movie making me extremely emotional...maybe scared? Or really sad? I was really young and then my mom got rid of all the VHS Tapes ( irony?)
@NoahCross1
@NoahCross1 2 ай бұрын
Very good video, keep going like this and you'll grow in no time. A thought that occurred to me is how this fits the postmodern notion of desiring machines, as in Deleuze where humans too are included in this category. I guess when you look at it like that you can say it's a story of addiction, or even the addiction to addiction (will to will). For a machine, to do its job is heaven, would the state of the machines be better if they didn't seek their master? With Nietzsche, too, the will to life is a life birthing instinct, whatever maximizes it is the best even if it means self delusion.
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Oh I love that insight. The idea that their addiction is to will itself is so fascinating. The nightmare sequence in the film is identical to the way it’s depicted in the novel, and it’s interesting that the greatest fear of the toaster is essentially boiled down to performance anxiety.
@NineVoltDigitalCinema
@NineVoltDigitalCinema 2 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen this film, but will definitely check it out after seeing this. My childhood trauma film was ‘The Last Unicorn’. I don’t know if it meets the definition of nihilism, but certainly left me feeling deeply sad every time I saw it. Great video, as always.
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I never saw The Last Unicorn, but I’ve heard so much about it. I need to check it out.
@JamesJoy-yc8vs
@JamesJoy-yc8vs Ай бұрын
​@@creativedestructionvideo yes, you definitely need to check out "The Last Unicorn"! I saw it years ago, remember it fondly, see in retrospect certain aspects that escaped me at the time, would love to watch again, and yet dread experiencing again in it's fullness. It's just that good
@tuckerglass398
@tuckerglass398 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff Mr. Cook
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@AlwaysAmTired
@AlwaysAmTired 2 ай бұрын
It's weird how so many kids, including myself, loved this movie even though it was quite uncomfortable to watch. This analysis just upped how dark it is. And AI! I feel like people don't understand how dark that film is. Like this little guy goes through the most incredible adventure, survives all odds, but can't see any of that. He can only see that he lacks his only desire. Man, now I need to go watch an absurdist film to cleanse my palate lol
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
To me the final act of AI is the most haunting part of the film. He finally gets his heart’s desire, but it’s only for one day, and it’s just his own version of a David robot.
@dialhforhero24
@dialhforhero24 2 ай бұрын
Made it through, after a few existential pauses. Genuinely fascinating analysis that recontextualized a film I always thought I had made up growing up. I'd love to hear your thoughts on complex themes and philosophies found in modern children's media or the lackthereof.
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea. Thank you so much for watching!
@gwenrose3211
@gwenrose3211 2 ай бұрын
Great video, great narration. I haven't seen this movie since I was very young, but I knew it was different. What a terrifying story honestly
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Yeah it’s a movie that really stuck with me for thirty years, and in making this video, I was finally able to put my finger on why.
@tamagothchic
@tamagothchic 2 ай бұрын
I am a simple woman. I see a video recontextualizing a childhood classic, I click. I had no idea the film was based on a book, but I also barely knew how to read back when I had the VCR lol
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
I only realized it when I started researching the production history. I think I wore out my tape of this movie back in the early nineties
@gloriacook2295
@gloriacook2295 2 ай бұрын
Always loved watching The Brave Little Toaster. I need to rewatch it now following your video. Great lesson on nihilism. Your analogies were really helpful in understanding the concepts and related themes. Great video!
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JamesJoy-yc8vs
@JamesJoy-yc8vs Ай бұрын
Childhood trauma? I saw this at a friend's place when we were approaching our 30's and it traumatized us like nothing else! We'd both worked selling Kirby vacuums, so we delighted in the depiction of that character. "It's a G2!" we crowed (this was about the time the G3 was being introduced). We spent the first part of the movie quoting selling points: "A complete home-care system." and "Machined from airplane-grade aluminum." and such. Then the AC unit self-destructed. We spent the rest of the movie gasping, crying, we clutched each other in fear. We became closer friends after watching it together. Shared trauma, I suppose. Solidarity. To this day I find the sheer *menace* of the landfill's crushing machine both an example of masterful nonverbal characterization, and a terrifying intrusive image
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo Ай бұрын
It’s a shockingly great movie
@JamesJoy-yc8vs
@JamesJoy-yc8vs Ай бұрын
@@creativedestructionvideo indeed and/or greatly shocking More Lars Van Trier than Stephen Spielberg (sp? I didn't stop to check)
@LatheOfChaos
@LatheOfChaos 2 ай бұрын
All the way to the end!
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ShifterChaos
@ShifterChaos 2 ай бұрын
Yes! Did finish it! Lovely company while preparing ingredients for a stew. Caught the princess bride line, definitely loved the deep dive on a fondly remembered film
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you caught that! Little Easter egg for a future vid. Enjoy the stew!
@Jaxon491
@Jaxon491 2 ай бұрын
I loved the video
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, man!
@SpaghettiEnterprises
@SpaghettiEnterprises Ай бұрын
I haven't thought about this movie for a really long time. This really puts it into context. I think they eventually went to Mars for some reason?
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo Ай бұрын
They did! I have no idea why. Maybe I should cover it
@SpaghettiEnterprises
@SpaghettiEnterprises Ай бұрын
@@creativedestructionvideo Oh yeah for sure. That one was straight up about planned obsolescence iirc.
@TheMightyPika
@TheMightyPika Ай бұрын
31:43 Whoah dude - what did that pawn shop owner ever do to you?
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo Ай бұрын
More like what did he do to the animators and writers
@daninogil
@daninogil 2 ай бұрын
your description of the ending is inaccurate. a lot of fans of this movie joke around that the "master" may be too attached to his appliances to the point he follows then into a certain doom. even if he didn't know that these where his appliances he tried to take them because they looked like his old appliances. if anything it negates your point on the film's nihilism and turn into optimism. the appliances are saved because of the master personal beliefs in preserving them' so despite the many reasons to the contrary they should have faith in the mater and toaster was right all along. I'm not saying that is reasonable what I'm saying is you should omit details that don't align with your point.
@creativedestructionvideo
@creativedestructionvideo 2 ай бұрын
While I agree that the master holds onto the vacuum cleaner and ends up on the conveyer belt of doom, to me at least, it doesn’t read as explicitly love for these specific objects so much as a demonstration of his own nostalgic impulses generally. The appliances and the master all have nostalgic goggles on regarding a certain feeling they have about the past. While the master seems put off by modern technology, he also hasn’t gone back to his childhood home in years despite owning a car and making the trip in less than a day. In the source novel, none of the stakes of the master almost dying are present, and I should have been more explicit on that point in discussing the ending of the film. Regardless, I really appreciate this comment and your input.
@JamesJoy-yc8vs
@JamesJoy-yc8vs Ай бұрын
Nostalgia can be a powerful force. I've noticed it becoming more so as I get older. Nostalgia, optimism, nihilism. After seeing the movie years ago, watching this video to the end, and now reading the excellent comments section, I wonder: Are the three at odds, or are they allies?
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