The best thing a man and woman can do. Sit down across from each other and be civilised in their disagreement, in order to grasp the reality of the situation.

There is so much to unpack. Where do I being: 1. They are listening to each other (actively). 2. They affirm each others opinions/thoughts. 3. They are not yelling/speaking aggressively. 4. They see each other. 5. They compromise.

“Because i love you i get least of you, I get the very minimum “ that hit me

The joy of watching two supremely intelligent people in conversation is so edifying.

“The price of the rent is my smile.” It’s still that real out here today.

I love how she affirms him. “You are smart enough and you are sensitive enough “ this conversation was 🔥

The Queen has spoken. This is the first time I ever saw Baldwin at a lost for words. He's usually the one dominating a debate. Nikki said I love my brother but I'm going to have the floor today. Watch me go off. Lol. I'm in love with these type of black minds.

She is so beautiful.

This interview make me wanna be a better man. I have listen 5+ times and bottom line is we can keep letting our women down. They have caught the frowna and rhe anger. Enough with that!!

Conversation like this is my aphrodisiac. Most men can’t put the ego aside long enough to hear her but she speaks what most are afraid to speak. You can’t even satisfy my body if these kind of chats ain’t happening. I love this!❤🖤💚

"You are capable and intelligent enough to create a new system..." Queen Giovanni is awesome

Because I Love You, I get the least of You! Powerful!! Just shifted my whole relationship.

Why are you going to be truthful with me , when you lie to everyone else?! Those words are everything in a marriage, that really got me.

This entire conversation can be applied today. Such a beautiful conversation between adults

This was a genuine all or nothing woman that is willing to pull the best out of her man. The Rent Will Get Paid. That's deep. Holla back.

I don't know if it's my love for poetry or soft spoken folk, but watching and listening to these two has brought joy to my heart-knowing that everything can be fixed and resolved if we only listen to one another.

She has a very complex, beautiful, energetic, worm, deep, honest, and thoughtful soul. She is a gracious image of God.

She's so right and this conversation is still a current worry within the black community.

Dad smiled at Mom❤ that was beautiful

I absolutely LOVE how open Baldwin is to this new idea she introduced to him. Generally, people immediately reject foreign ideas that challenge what they’ve always believed to be true. But here, he seems intrigued at the this new thing that he has never before considered. He was such a genuine soul, listening to understand. And Nikki is gentle and kind, but at the same time bold and brilliant. This was such an exhilarating exchange! I have to watch the whole thing now! ❤💯

Probably the deepest & most emotional conversation between a black woman & black man I’ve ever watched.. breath taking.

Nikki is so talented and beautiful At 80 years old she’s still amazing

It is the warmest conversation i have ever heard. Both of them are a gift for humanity!🙏

I love this dialogue. This hits home.

The price of the rent is my smile!!!!

Nikki is THE TRUTH. Paycheck voice. Have a filter with me. Treat me like if you lose me, you'll lose everything. That's how you feel about your job. Everything is done backwards. Love your WOMAN. it's called... RESPECT

I have watched this video 100x and everytime I watch Nikki G beg for just the slightest hint of love from her black king it brings tears to my eyes b/c I can understand both sides... ✊🏿⚡

Two very intelligent people. I can listen to them all day.

I love this conversation and how they articulated themselves; artistic expression. It was dope hearing their vintage lingo lol; jiving, groovy cat, he's a "gas" 😏. But I also felt the pain in her expression and his; she wants him to pour into her even if he must fake it, and he wants her to understand why it's difficult. I understood both side's, what I will say is, if he can fake it at work for a paycheck it should be easy to smile and be loving at home - 'cause that's where the heart is...or should be. Giovanni expressed to Baldwin, how black women take on their spouse's frustrations and anger from work, when it should be love and happiness. Black men's rage from discrimination on the job transfers over into a beating up of the black woman, and sometimes in front of the kid's. It seems many men and women haven't been taught how to positively project their energy, due to childhood wounds, and social conditioning amongst other factors.

Her smile. Her words. Lie to me. That resonated with me.

Oh how we need more conversations like this family We still must wear the smile.

I remember either listening or watching them converse when I was younger and at 43 I’m just fully understanding their dialogue. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I think as an African American, this a foundational statement in how relationships should work! We have to make it work for the future! People of other races take her advice all the time!

Go out in the world and be treated like crap and smile through it all day.. Get home and frown when being treated with love.... See what she saying dont come home to me mad when i treat yiu better when i love you i as a black woman HAVE THE POWER TO HEAL YOU EVERY NIGHT SO U CAN FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. YET U HAVE TO NURRISH ME SO I CAN HAVE THAT POWER TO HEAL YOU EVERYNIGHT.

I always find myself coming back to this.

"That lie to me" hit hard.

Does he not understand the same fake smile he has to perform to, is the same smile that she has to perform to also!!!

Nikki Giovanni Oh my God, I'm in love with her thoughts, her computing and her decernment!

I so love what she said... it rings so true... i never thought I would be in a situation wanting someone to fake love me.

The synopsis of this conversation, for me, is stand up and make it happen. Powerful of a black woman to uphold and REMIND the black man.

I.👏🏾 LOVE.👏🏾 THIS!!!👏🏾 This is such a powerful conversation and we need to have more civil discourses like this and bring the Black family back together!🖤✊🏾 We must!!

This was such a beautiful STRONG intelligent OPEN conversation!!! I wish in 2024 people were more open to having these types of discussions! This fed my soul! Grateful for this being recorded!🙏🏾‼️🤍

Next level conversations that we as blk ppl need to have in order to elevate!!!

i can't get enough of this conversation. i was lucky enough to come across it last year (on tiktok, of all places!) and i've revisited it several times since. nikki giovanni is just brilliant and i love james baldwin

This is the realest, most accurate piece of African American struggle of the post civil rights era.

She made him listen, without telling him to shut up. Beautiful ❤️

" As long as the assumuptions are the same, nothing will change. We must corner ourselves to make new assumptions." POWERFUL!!!

How did even get here, its addictive 😂😂

"Hush now don't explain"🥺

This is realist idea about any relationship. Both their rebuttals were on point. You want me to lie but I can’t perform twice.

Too bad she didn't meet a guy like me. I give hell at work but I'm all smiles at home. I totally get what she's saying. Be a man don't be a coward.

She was very beautiful and spoke the truth!!!!

I felt every word she spoke. The sad part is that this still is needed. A woman, especially a black woman, is suppose to be a soft place for her man and family to land but she never has a soft place for herself to land..ijs

I just discovered Soul! At 44 and Ms. Giovanni in the same year. In the past year I've made more discoveries that lead me to corner myself and make new assumptions about everything I ever was taught or thought I knew. Leading me to understand the older I get the less I know and in doing so I loose a false sense of education and grasp a real understanding of spiritual enlightenment. Thank you Mr. baldwen.. Ms. Giovanni and Mr.Haizlip for pushing black arts to what it is today and for what it will mean to the youth of future generations. In a time when mental health in the black community was non-existent or talked about I wonder if the viewers of this them knew that this was exactly what they were hearing in a honest, civil and unapologetic insightful conversation of the pivotal moment when feminism pointed out that Masculism not toxic masculinity was the issue as it was then and still is now. I never graduated highschool but I was blessed to grow up with the disruptor called the Internet and the free will inherit in all human beings that are not born into or a direct product of slavery to be able to seek out and learn how powerful this is.

2:17 "if you're on welfare, he won't eat if I am there; that's the law"...let that sink in

I saw this on SOUL! This is SOUL FOOD ✊🏾 I love how they subtly went into role play. HOT DAMN!!! 🔥🔥🔥❤️

Two of my most favorite people in the intellectual space.

My favorite part was when James stepped out of character and said "I DONT WANT YOU TO PROSTITUTE..." I felt that one

Can we just marvel at the cinematography/camera work? They turned 2 (maybe 3) cameras into absolute gold with all the various angles and shots they were getting. Masterful.

I am so in love with this dialogue

damn I love these kind of conversation. real talk of facts in a respectful way.

Damn she's beautiful...her face and voice just makes me smile

That was a beautiful dialogue between 2 intelligent people.

what an amazing genuine conversation

This conversation is much needed & powerful.

I watch this whole hour long conversation years ago and it’s still one of my favorite between a man and woman and my favorite authors

I agree with everything she said except “the rent will get paid” who tf gonna pay it? 😂

Not sure why I feel this conversation in my soul 😔

I have been watching this for years.. I love it still today and forever.

Love her passion and attitude towards the world and how it was and maybe how it still is

Most powerful point of view " what the he'll do I care about the truth I care if your there

I could listen to these two people talk all day If I could.

A sexy grown conversation..this is so epic #classic 🔥🔥

I love this! Very eye opening

"Amazing WHAT A Fantastic Speech SUCH A Delicious Magnificent Treat MR. J. Baldwin AND MS. N. Giovanni, Poetic... LOVE THIS, Classic PEACE,😯😍😁📸📺📻🎙️🍰📖😯😍😁📸📺📻🎙️🍰📖

Years ago, I went on a second date at a bowling alley. At that time, my family was in crisis, and just as I greeted the girl, my younger brother called. I made it a habit to answer 100% of his calls because I wanted him to feel like no matter what there was one person in the world who’d always pick up, and he knew not to abuse that. However, that day he was extremely distressed due to our parents fighting, and the call took longer than expected. When I returned to the date, I was mentally distracted and apologized for not being fun. She comforted me, saying she'd enjoy our time together regardless, and urged me to just be myself. Her exact words were, "I want you to be wherever you are at the moment." That was when I realized this was my person. That was four years ago (we're engaged now). I can't tell you how nourishing it is to be real. I can't help but smile when I'm with her. She is my home. When I see her, the smile happens all on its own. It's not that I don't make an effort to be kind, but my feelings are real. She knows when I smile it's because of the joy she gives, and truly that’s nourishing for her as well. Work sucks, life sucks, but we take refuge in one another.

I love this interview, I watch it plenty time just for the heaven of it

You dont hurt those that you love bottom line. No matter how bad the day your mate or your child should not be the victim. Those are the ones you should turn to with open arms and LOVE. Not the enemies on the outer world that hate and despise your breath of existence.

Beautiful conversation. I wish I was there in the room ❤

Who’s here from Night Cap?

Here on may 11 2024

This changed my perspective 100%

So profound and the same struggles exist(ed) for the South Asians in Britain (England)

The "you must, you must" that she said was very powerful it's as though her voice was breaking as she was saying it

It’s so heartbreaking to hear a man say he can’t smile to the person who loves him the most. Because he’s been knowingly fake smiling for people who don’t love him. How don’t you understand the difference between the fake and the real. Feeding what feeds you.

Matthew 6:25-33 New International Version (NIV) Do Not Worry 25 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life[a]?

When it was black man and woman and not black man VS black woman. Love this convo

who's here from the vince staples promo

Love these two so deep

Two great people

a beautiful conversation

Thank you for sharing a Conversation!!!!

Amazing. Absolutely Amazing.

We need more of this TODAY!!!

This is a beautiful convo.

TAKE HEART- there are many loving, and endearing relationships - just as we have witness in this vid with Niki and Jimmy - between fathers and daughters (respectively). Between mentor and the one mentored. Between partners in love, and in business. Seek it, find it. It makes everything in your respective lives lives - sustainably BETTER.

A very rare Goddess indeed. Teaching the God who he is and what he should do. As far as each generation of us. Wow!!!

I believe this relates to All races.. it mean a lot

The most Beautiful convo I’ve seen on Today.

Sadly the generation I’m in black men and women can’t find commend ground to have a conversation like this anymore. It’s always who bigger or better . Them men act like women and the women act like men .