“We’ve discontinued the 3DS and Wii U, shut down eShop, not gonna port any of the games, oh and btw it’s illegal to emulate those games”
@therealjaystone23445 ай бұрын
In Japan
@freehacksxd5 ай бұрын
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@RAGINGMACHOMANX5 ай бұрын
Always that dude being the defender @@EdingardSIGMA
@imchips-topicsofficialsdad55465 ай бұрын
I bet you got a little wee wee@@EdingardSIGMA
@houragents54905 ай бұрын
The "preservation" argument os so dishonest. Pirating Metroid a week before launch is not "preserving" anything
@nicktechnubyte11845 ай бұрын
Emulation is a way of life! It's been around since the start of computers using electricity!
@billyhatcher6435 ай бұрын
Remember pirating nintendo games is moral it's our duty to pirate their games never support them
@dravenlee44735 ай бұрын
What a lot of companies don't get is the people that emulate or even pirate, they would never buy your product anyway. You have people that have a Switch, people that have a Switch and emulate and people that only emulate. That last category isn't going to suddenly buy a Switch if you take away their emulator. They just don't play Switch. Those people don't hurt Nintendo. It's neutral.
@ssokolow5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Hell, I'm one of those people who is so far in the third category that I not only own a cartridge dumper, I'm very careful to only eBay games for my cart dumpers where, if someone considers the copy I took off the market interchangeable with an eShop copy, they already bought it. (i.e. Making absolutely certain I don't show up on Nintendo's balance sheet in a legal way.)
@NostalgiaNet85 ай бұрын
Yuzu are officially fighting back, and will go to court.
@houragents54905 ай бұрын
AWESOME!!!! This is what the ninjas🥷 were aiming for so they can set a new legal precedent.
@NostalgiaNet85 ай бұрын
We'll see what happens. Nintendo will need to have actual proof and evidence. @@houragents5490
@billyhatcher6435 ай бұрын
Nintendo will never win this lawsuit and their arguments are stupid they're also using quotes from subreddits and discord
@39zack5 ай бұрын
Did not happen, they settled outside of court
@jameswiggle5 ай бұрын
yuzu folded so fast
@fartking28455 ай бұрын
If Nintendo somehow achieves this massive shutdown of emulators, I can assume a massive boycott of their products.
@billyhatcher6435 ай бұрын
They won't win the lawsuit they lost previous lawsuits and even sony lost theirs against bleem and and Apple lost their lawsuit on iPhone jailbreaking too
@sedrosken8315 ай бұрын
@@billyhatcher643 Guess you didn't take Yuzu devs settling into account. I didn't, even, I expected them to just go bankrupt trying to pay the legal fees and that being Nintendo's win condition, but this? Wow. This sets an ugly, ugly precedent. And most normal folks don't care about emulation, or at worst believe Nintendo's warped perspective on it. There will be no boycott.
@aneeshsrinivas90884 ай бұрын
my opinion of them is going to be like fou lu from breath of fire 4's opinion on humanity after mami got sacrificed and yuna fired a hex shot at him with the carronade(lets just say he lost faith in humanity) . I'm making this analogy btw because I just finished breath of fire 4 when this lawsuit happened, and how poetic of an analogy because I'm pretty angry with them.
@GabrielleTollerson4 ай бұрын
oh yeah
@aneeshsrinivas90884 ай бұрын
another analogy is dracula's opinion of humanity after his wife was killed.
@OldGringo-zd6ik5 ай бұрын
Nintendo is like Scientology on South Park. We’re so gonna sue you!
@KesGaming5 ай бұрын
Yeah... Good luck with that Nintendo, lol.
@Zeivusgaming5 ай бұрын
It's like the US government trying to regulate the internet.
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
Which is also terrifying
@GabrielleTollerson4 ай бұрын
ikr
@BlackMaleLion5 ай бұрын
I hope Nintendo doesn’t succeed in ending emulation. If they do, I will never support them ever again. Doing that is just as bad as going after fan made games and locking online play behind a paywall.
@wes7731053335 ай бұрын
This is one of the reasons why I don't pirate currently supported software. It draws attention to the emulation scene when a brand new game is leaked and people are posting videos before the game is released. I'm not saying this to defend Nintendo. In fact, I think this is very bad for videogames overall. We all know that if one of these companies leads the charge against emulation, it's going to be Nintendo. They are also the company that is most likely to see success in changing the legality of emulators. I emulate/pirate all kinds of games from 7th Gen and back. When we emulate games, we're supposed to be using our own game backups. Because nobody had a legally obtained game to back up when TOTK came out, they could argue that 1 million copies of their game were being played illegally. That might be enough to change how emulation is viewed in the eyes of the court, which would be very bad. My personal stance on emulation is that if it's for games preservation, you should be playing games from legacy consoles and not currently supported hardware. I want these game companies to continue to make games, so I support them by buying the games I'm interested in. If I can't afford to buy a game, I guess I'll just wait to emulate it until it's no longer supported.
@SignOfTheTimes0085 ай бұрын
I've used NEStopia for years. And I have emulators for SNES and many other systems like GBA and Genesis. Only way to play many games and the ones that are so ridiculously over priced now.
@Xmanant03_Mr035 ай бұрын
I'm glad everyone is covering this topic! it shows that this whole thing is really important!
@emobassist5 ай бұрын
im suprised they didnt try to sue the guy for having the name bowser
@cyphaborg65985 ай бұрын
What are the odds having two Bowsers as their last name involved with Nintendo?.
@mikev46385 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this. I genuinely don't know what Nintendo is thinking with this. I mean, they hooked us in as kids with their legacy titles (Mario, Zelda, Pokémon) and when we get older and maybe want to revisit those older games, because nostalgia is a powerful sales tool, you would think that they would be eager to make a method to access these games tied to their console. I'm a big Pokémon guy, I've always loved the series. It seems like every Pokémon day, the comments are full of people saying "please bring the first 3 gens to Switch online" and of course, it never happens. Ultimately, I don't blame people for going the emulator route when Nintendo has shown time after time that they don't really give a shit.
@Ziko5775 ай бұрын
It's stupid they'd rather waste money on this than maybe giving some to the R&D guys working on the successor console. This is just stupid.
@twenty-fifth4205 ай бұрын
As a general software dev, this new pisses me off so much, I can’t help but feel nintendo thinks either A. They know they are full of shit, but they want to poke the bear. B. Even if they are genuine, if this matters only to ‘send a message’. We have gone beyond “Okay yeah, that makes sense protecting your IP.” to “1984.” I might out of spite learn how to develop emulators like I am doing for virtual machines and compilers, because NO WAY IN HELL am I letting the last bastion of preservation and media ownership be snuffed out by nintendo.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
@@EdingardSIGMA How about Nintendo do a better job in locking down their console, so people can't emulate their hardware. This doesn't happen to Sony and Microsoft.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
@@EdingardSIGMA I disagree. The PS3 along with the PS4 had some of the best JRPG games. The Xbox 360 also had really good JRPG like Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata. Halo Reach was also really good. The PS5 and Xbox Series X are a different story and have no good exclusives.
@twenty-fifth4205 ай бұрын
@@EdingardSIGMA Nice bait mate, get over it, Ill emulate whatever I want, I will develop whatever I want. And you are not going to change my mind.
@aaronfreeman38905 ай бұрын
congrats on 60k subs man. started watching you years ago in college when you had like 11.5k and u carried me in some lonely dark times. Much better these days. Blessings ☺
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
Thanks man! And I’m happy to hear that your life has gotten better! Always remember, terrible times are temporary.
@aaronfreeman38905 ай бұрын
@@FANTAVISION godbless ya man
@bar73815 ай бұрын
Nintendo's last 3 systems have been emulated within their lifespans and it really feels like Nintendo is suing yuzu now so that the same wont happen for the switch 2
@congokong875 ай бұрын
In an unbiased debate, it shouldn't matter if Nintendo is a multi-billion dollar company who doesn't need defending, or if we're consumers who benefit from emulation. Is Nintendo justified? Whether or not they have a legal case, I always felt Yuzu was flying too close to the sun emulating a still-relevant console while also profiting off doing so.
@nerdloftgaming5 ай бұрын
And then there’s Bowser SELLING hacks for Nintendo’s current console? Of course he deserved to be shutdown - but prison time? Millions of dollars in damages? Overkill for sure.
@imchips-topicsofficialsdad55465 ай бұрын
You guys can continue licking Nintendo pipes.
@Matrix8035 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you here. The sad reality about Nintendo is that their IP's are so immensely engraved into society, and characters like Mario, Zelda, Kirby, etc. are so iconic and define gaming in such a big way-- so much so that Nintendo could do all kinds of terrible shit to consumers and developers alike and get away with it without any real consequence. It's just like you said in the video-- as long as they're making money, they literally don't care about you at all. And as long as Nintendo has lawyers and is not technically breaking any laws, they're fully allowed to make an anti-preservationist/anti-gamer/immoral move like suing an emulation company and potentially destroying an alternate avenue to play many games that would otherwise be lost to time.. On the other side, you have Sega. Sure, they've messed up royally in the mid-90's with all the back-to-back hardware releases like the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn. Since then, Sega's left the console market and changed their strategy for the better, but even when they seemingly try to do things the right way, people take shits all over the Sega brand, simply because they're "Sega". At least for me, that's what it seems like when I browse the internet and gaming news sites (especially IGN :P). That's why I never really liked Nintendo. Aside from finding Mario annoying as a character (though the gameplay of Mario games is really fun), their consoles are always really subpar, and I always disliked Nintendo's sense of monopoly/corporate attitude. Just take a look at Nintendo Directs and listen to the narrator for each game-- he literally narrates every flat-out obvious detail that's being shown on-screen like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, as if all of the viewers watching it are some kind of mindless lab rats. Such a turnoff for me. Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent here. But to sum it all up, I won't be buying any more of their consoles unless my future kids were to beg me for one.
@BrooksFoodLooks5 ай бұрын
I bought a Version 1 Switch with the hardware exploit upon release... I bought over 250 games before exploiting it a couple weeks ago. This makes me wish I hacked it ASAP. I will not delay next time. Nintendo has lost all my good will by going after emulation to the degree it has.
@GabrielleTollerson4 ай бұрын
yep!!
@midnitekreapa83725 ай бұрын
Love my NES Classic mini ... 800 nintendo and Gameboy games and no internet connection 💪😎👍
@christianweckerly31915 ай бұрын
I've played emulators a few times over the years. But I stand with what Nintendo is trying to do. They have every right to end emulation. End of discussion.
@nsgames245 ай бұрын
Someone pointed this out in another video that I forget at the moment, but why does Nintendo feel the need to do this... now? Seven years into the Switch's lifespan and THIS is the time where they want to attack a Switch emulator that's been around for awhile? Most folks who talk about the Switch, nowadays are either waiting for its true successor to come out or have just moved on to PC gaming handhelds.
@cyphaborg65985 ай бұрын
It's due to Zelda TotK leaking way before release date. Well according to them, but the game still sold extremely well.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
@@cyphaborg6598 Over 18 million copies.
@LightSilver75 ай бұрын
Media Copyright Preservation should be a thing.
@corwinroberts47565 ай бұрын
Bro I can't blame Nintendo for going after who even emulate there game before release.
@estevanangel99905 ай бұрын
I just don’t understand. It could be a win win situation. Nintendo could sell these games or put them on the online service.
@Left4Bill5 ай бұрын
I only play games I own on yuzu. It's nice to run these games with good fidelity on the pc that the switch can't come close to.
@Nicky-zz8np5 ай бұрын
If you don’t see the issue with emulating games 2 weeks before they even officially release idk what to tell you. This isn’t a game preservation issue it’s a piracy one. Ask any developer big or small if they like people pirating their games. No matter how pro emulation they might be they won’t be ecstatic about it.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
How about Nintendo do a better job at locking down their console, so people can't jail break or emulate it. This doesn't happen to Sony or Microsoft.
@wdf705 ай бұрын
Yuzu is actually doing nothing wrong in this case. They should be going after the pirates who are genuinely doing the illegal things and sharing roms, firmware and prod.keys. To legally Emulate a game, you must have 2 things. A legally owned console AND own the game that you are wanting to emulate. You have to dump the firmware from YOUR legally owned console and the rom file from YOUR game. THEN you can legally emulate Zelda or whatever game that you own. If you don't own the game, you cannot legally emulate it. But why go after the people actually stealing from you and instead go after the program that makes it possible. It's not like they can just MAKE ANOTHER ONE AND CONTINUE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. Nintendo wants control and nothing else.
@blast_processing65772 ай бұрын
I propose the following: 1. Following on the heels of the recently released N64 recompiler tool, create recompilers for other Nintendo consoles / ROMs. 2. Apply some reasonable optimizations and enhancements to recompiled Nintendo games. 3. Derive WYSIWYG game makers from recompiled Nintendo gamed so that everyone, everywhere can easily make their own stand-alone Nintendo games to be distributed far and wide.
@Br-hn1ik5 ай бұрын
Damn. Nintendo's lashing out.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
Emulation has already has a legal precedent and every time the emulators win. Tears of the Kingdom sold over 18 million copies despite the million people that downloaded the rom.
@TheEasterFerret5 ай бұрын
The creatives at Nintendo are great. The executives and lawyers are the scumbags.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
well said
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
True true
@billyhatcher6435 ай бұрын
They're never gonna win at all with this stupid lawsuit they lost before and will lose again they'll never win at all
@ratboy36795 ай бұрын
Nintendo is not going to win this one...ur console got hacked by a paperclip..do better next time, not this salty bullshit.
@jman36575 ай бұрын
I think it's Nintendos fault that some people want to pirate Nintendo switch games and SNES games because the hardware is weak and there's no backwards compatibility, not to mention the retro games are locked behind an online service
@xOriginalGamerOG76x5 ай бұрын
I don't like their practices. So i don't buy their crap
@saidraalien68375 ай бұрын
they have every right x1,000,000 to shut down yuzu, which btw has nothing to do with how nintendo feels about their consumers. they'd be hard pressed to shut down anything dolphin and beforehand, so this in my book is fine.
@NERD-FROM-THE-SOUTH5 ай бұрын
You can't end what people have stored on personal hard drives;) but! You could send out Nintendo ninjas to seize all roms!?
@shaneoleary99194 ай бұрын
This mess up
@therealjaystone23445 ай бұрын
And now the Ocarina of Time PC port is next on the target list for the ninjas
@jesusduarte19885 ай бұрын
you lost me when you said Nintendo has so much innovation 😂
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
Despite all Nintendo's flaws they are the most innovative gaming company around. The 3DS, Wii, Wii U, and the Switch are all innovative products. Microsoft and Sony focus on raw power while Nintendo is looking for ways that set themselves apart from the competition.
@jesusduarte19885 ай бұрын
@@russellmania5349 🤣 stupid response, isn’t that the point improving hardware 🤣 Nintendo makes one little update now it’s innovation 🐑 look how long it took them to make a open world game for Pokémon and the copy cat on Xbox is still better 🤣
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
@@jesusduarte1988 I don't care about things like graphics or frame rates. If I did then I would just build a gaming PC or buy a Steam Deck. Nintendo also has the most exclusives than any other console and thats a fact. I can't get Tears of the Kingdom on my PS5.
@jesusduarte19885 ай бұрын
@@russellmania5349 🤣 please shut up you sound so dumb, games are so fucking basic but people love the characters
@nickcollins11875 ай бұрын
You will own and play nothing and be happy.
@terrysyvertson92055 ай бұрын
Nintendo is going after yuzu to stop piracy
@GabrielleTollerson4 ай бұрын
they didn't even just go after yuzu dude. They went after older console emulators. Fuck nintendo
@zatokeo59355 ай бұрын
After what nintendo is doing now I'm not gonna buy or support anything from them anymore.
@cyphaborg65985 ай бұрын
While having a Switch OLED I'm just not feeling to support Nintendo going forward. It's just a bad platform to invest in at this point.
@RetroSho5 ай бұрын
Nintendo sucks for this, but they are really only going after Yuzu since it's their current generation console they are "trying to protect". Nintendo has had a more or less had a hands-off approach with emulators for older consoles that they don't make money on any more. I've never believed Nintendo had a strong argument against emulation, but it has to really be seen in court before we know what's up. This lawsuit has the potential to set many future precedents on emulation for good (or bad) in this case.
@GabrielleTollerson4 ай бұрын
they did not just go after yuzu lmao
@RetroSho4 ай бұрын
@@GabrielleTollerson Yes... they went after Yuzu mirrors and clones too. Still Yuzu. Ryujinx is fine
@CobaltFoxPlays5 ай бұрын
The Switch can't even play Switch games, and that's sad.
@BuccaneerBruce5 ай бұрын
I only play NES/SNES games on emulators on my TV.
@tylerbyrd16445 ай бұрын
Fanta, you forgot to mention that the games on their online service are emulated💀 It's illegal for you to emulate dumped games that you own, but it's legal for nintendo to charge you monthly for the right to do the same exact thing. Garbage corporation. At what point does their software quality stop being enough.
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
Is it illegal to emulate games you’ve dumped? I think that’s when it is legal. But you’re right, I should have mentioned that NINTENDO EMULATES and does it poorly.
@gamemadness59855 ай бұрын
well dolphin and wii officially doesnt work on steam anymore nitendo has my &@!%&*$ vote
@jameswiggle5 ай бұрын
aren't there unofficial pokemmos out there?
@AngelMonster215 ай бұрын
Well im not buying any Nintendo product ever again. Good job Nintendo!
@sirchristopher76845 ай бұрын
So if you start a company selling software and I decide to "preserve" it and offer it for free on my website I guess you wouldn't mind?
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
That's not what emulators do
@aneeshsrinivas90884 ай бұрын
I wouldn't frankly.
@corwinroberts47565 ай бұрын
I have an emulator that emulate any Nintendo 64,snens and ps1 on my phone.
@jodyjohnson2655 ай бұрын
Nintendo needs to stop being a bunch of babies about emulation and if they go and take down emulators and game rom websites I'm going to be pissed off and ya I feel that emulators are legal and the way how Nintendo is doing shady shit to us with downloading game roms elegley I'm never going to buy a Nintendo switch if this keeps up and I've never seen Sega try to go after flycast emulator mame Sega Genesis GX emulators and like you sed with Sony.
@thunderousooner5275 ай бұрын
Those games are copyrighted that’s why Nintendo cracking down on them. Nintendo cracking down on them just like just like the music industry cracked down on Napster in 2000
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
This is completely different. Yuzu is not distributing games. They are simply a platform that you can play games on.
@megamanmegamanmegamanmegam87255 ай бұрын
Nintendo is so pathetic! like honestly what are people suppose to do though? since those old nintendo games never gotten a newer port on to the newer consoles. And they can't be buy at any game stores anymore well there are people that are selling them but at such a really high and expensive price since those old games Are very rare at this point since people are just going to sell them at such a high price like damn this is just sad to see how modern nintendo is since they just hate Their own fans and consumers..
@aneeshsrinivas90884 ай бұрын
and the probability of an individual game getting a remaster is basically 0.
@GabrielleTollerson4 ай бұрын
This will not end well for nintendo
@nickk66455 ай бұрын
Oversensationalized title/video. Piracy is already illegal and still exists (with plenty of healthy communities and websites).
@FANTAVISION5 ай бұрын
Emulating is not illegal. Nintendo winning this would mean the end of financial support for these projects and progress on future and current emulation improvements would grind to a halt.
@NostalgiaNet85 ай бұрын
Emulation and emulators are legal. Just not providing the game roms and system requirements outside of your physical copy is illegal.
@samuraivader38145 ай бұрын
Bruh, unless he rewrote the title, learn to read.
@russellmania53495 ай бұрын
@@NostalgiaNet8 To be fair I'm guessing that the majority 97% of people are downloading the roms illegally and not dumping them like they are supposed to. I played a ton of roms from older consoles that I just downloaded online. I would have no idea how to dump my PS2 BIOS to my PC. When the Switch becomes obsolete and I can no longer buy those games legally or they are being sold at sky rocket prices, I will be downloading some of those games as well. Unless you are tech savvy most people are not going to be dumping the roms, Keys, and what ever else you need to emulate their console.
@neoconker2k85 ай бұрын
Ra hahahahahhahahahaha , PC thieves crying again 😂😂 . All of gaming should be exclusively ran by the corporate overlords , accepting this has made me content with whatever they give me . Quit with the ideas of true freedom "You DON'T GET TO DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!" Emulation and Roms are going extinct and yall should embrace it and stop getting sad/upset and go with the flow and learn to let go.
@NatetheNintendofan5 ай бұрын
Dude as an Nintendo fan I don't think what you're saying is acceptable I'm on both sides I mean I understand why Nintendo suing them but it's kind of I mean move on their part if you like playing on their systems great I like playing on them too, but playing on a PC is also cool I also have a game in PC but it's could be better but I'm getting a new one soon that's even better than my current one my current one only costed 500 while my new one is going to cost like $2,000 to 3,000 also hackers will find ways so how about we just get along we stop making for the casual gamers it's okay to play on real switch I prefer real switch on playing game but I was playing my gaming PC a lot wish I could hack my switch but I'm going to have to wait in a couple more years I hacked all my other Nintendo systems but yeah how about we all just get along all four of the console companies are good plus PC and steam
@freehacksxd5 ай бұрын
subscribed
@TwiztedWolf_695 ай бұрын
Nintendo is really a double-sided coin, they make awesome first party titles which is what kept their company a float. But for some reason they don't want to give any other titles to any kind of legibility and what I mean by that is projects. And AKA emulators aren't illegal If you go to any emulator website they specifically note use your own games that you own. I absolutely adore emulators I've been using them for I'd say 20 plus years, hell I remember playing my PS2 games in 4k When 4K was new and a big thing, back in those days developers weren't even thinking about 4K and how good it remasters the games. So yeah I don't get Nintendo