I can't thank you enough, Greg. My little channel takes a lot out of me, but it's comments like yours that keep me going. So glad you enjoyed the episode, and thanks again for being a loyal viewer!

Agree with this comment. I don't know what the hell you're talking about Hollis, it's "inside baseball" type of stuff to me, but I enjoyed learning a little bit more about the kinds of things that collectors talk about. One of my local record shops, Mill City Sound, is owned by a retired engineer who seems to know an awful lot about the record mastering and production process. He sometimes posts "explainers" on the shop's social media and I always love reading those posts.

@@burmajones803 Haha, I take that as an unqualified rave! I actually described this episode as "inside baseball" to someone just yesterday. I was hoping that my loyal viewers would follow me a little farther into the tall grass. So glad to know I didn't lose anyone. Lots of guys know WAY more than me about the process itself and various pressings, but I make it a point to know as much as I can about the music I love. Thanks for the feedback!

Hey! So glad you're enjoying the pressing! That's all that truly matters. Crank it up and enjoy! It's such a gorgeous package, that feels lovingly hand crafted. And you're so right; the extra 7 inch is totally the cherry on top. Endless Nameless can finally take its place with a vinyl edition. This is a nice step up from the CD, and a sweet throwback to the days of grunge. Thanks for the comment!

Wow, thanks Ben! I'm so grateful for viewers like you. It makes all the hard work worthwhile. You're the best!

Hey Stewart, glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I was mostly referring to the production chain itself, and also all the hate this pressing's getting from audiophiles. But you're right, the independent shops got screwed. If Mike from the In Groove can't get dozens of copies of something like this, it's very odd. I also think it's shady we don't even have a firm number on how many total copies were pressed. I completely agree it's a turning point. In my opinion, now that the "vinyl resurgence" is big money, the big boys want a much bigger piece of the action. And record companies are only too happy to give it to them.

Thanks, Nenad! So glad you enjoyed it, and welcome to the channel!

I must have been! That’s awesome! The Breeders kicked ass as well. Didn’t care for Half Japanese though. That jam at the end (with Kurt on drums) was epic and weird. Such a fun show. And like five months later, they were gone. Crazy.

Hey Maria! If you could only have live stuff from one band, Nirvana's not a bad choice! Thanks for sharing that wonderful story. So cool we saw them on the same tour. Emotionally, I had the reverse experience than you. I cut out a much longer part of my concert story where I talk about how the band was gone just five months later, and how I couldn't listen to Nirvana's music for about twenty years afterward. I was so sad at the time, and when I heard their songs all I felt was loss at such a waste of talent. It's only in the last five to ten years or so that I'm actively listening to Kurt's music and can really enjoy it again. PS: I love that you used your ticket to fund such a happy occasion!

Thanks so much, Leonard! I'm glad you enjoyed the episode, and it's nice to know we're in sync. Welcome to the channel!

Thanks, it seemed to fit.

That's a great point about the security issue when it comes to original tapes--especially in the age of the Internet, where leaks always happen. It's funny, though, that companies are scared to let tapes out of the vaults when the vaults sometimes catch fire. I'm also with you on the digital master. it's honestly a toss up; sometimes it sounds great, and sometimes not so great. I am adamant about wanting analog pressings from albums that were recorded by analog means. Since I mostly collect older albums, it's hardly an issue. If albums were cut to digital, though, I don't really mind at all. Honestly there's so many other things that happen in the recording/mastering/pressing chain that affect the final product sometimes digital gets a bad rap. Thanks for the comment!

Yep, total game changer. That reference to a CD folder took me back. I first had this album on cassette. It never left my car--that is, until I junked my car. (I had crappy cars in college.) And yes, those scratches are beyond annoying. What can you do, the pressing-plant struggles are real. Thanks for the comment!

I'm not sure you can say that categorically, since noise floor is very system/power source/room/listener dependent. Pretty sure noise floor is one of those things where your mileage may vary.

Thanks so much, Greg! I'm glad you enjoyed the episode. You make some great points, and I'm sure this album is all you'll need to be transported back to its year of release. I think quality control issues are just the norm with all new releases, and you simply have to hope the little problems here or there don't affect play. Glad you didn't have the typeface problem on yours. I really appreciate you subscribing. Hope you enjoy the channel!

Yeah, Mike's the one that first spread the word about just how limited this edition truly is. I guess we'll see in a few weeks if people actually got all the records they ordered. And I agree with him that nothing's as good as a Nevermind first pressing.

Haha, good to know you've got that covered! I was making that point, that having a "CD guy" remastering the digital file for a vinyl release makes zero sense to me.

@@PopCultureGraveyard Well I keep going back to what I was saying about different types of digital files -some digital files are so good quality that they’re indistinguishable from the analog, nowadays. That wasn’t always the case. If, as I suspect, the multi tracks were mixed to digital and that digital file given to the engineer to master to vinyl AND the Format was one of those high-quality digital types then I personally don’t see a problem however, of course, if it was mixed to ANALOG AND THEN transferred to Digital then it would seem to be an extra and unneeded step that likely wouldn’t improve matters as an aside, let me tell you a story about an experience that I had: A good friend was in several bands in the 1960/70s & one of them that he felt was an obscure one he wanted to listen to again but he had long since made the jump from vinyl to CD & was wholly committed to that format (don’t ask me why but that’s another story!)So he asked me to transfer his only vinyl copy to a CD as best as I was able so he could hear his old band again as he was sure that they were too obscure to have been granted a CD release This I duly did using just a domestic turntable and a standalone CD recorder. Nothing else. No computer was used. I was pretty amazed at how similar and good sounding both the vinyl and CD was and felt that the vinyl had been originally mastered, mixed and recorded very well and my CD copy accurately reflected this. I decide it would be fun to go online and download some artwork from the original album sleeve to “mock-Up“ an official looking CD only to find to my amazement that after all my efforts the album was cheap and easily available in my friend’s preferred CD format officially anyway! I bought one and when comparing it to the vinyl it was easily inferior (no surprises there!) but the amazing thing, for me at least, was that my ‘Fake CD’ sounded much better than the official one! The point I’m making is that, Basically, I think that quality will ALWAYS be quality no matter what the format or source. A poorly executed vinyl will still sound worse than an excellent and thoughtfully produced high bit rate mp3 IMHO

Thank you, my friend! I'm sorry it took so long. Things are hopping on Patreon! Hope you're well. Talk soon!

@@PopCultureGraveyard No, I'm honored I got to be shouted out on this awesome episode for Nevermind - a truly seminal album in my musical life! As usual I learned something new from you - I had no idea that there was an early misaddressing of the CD without that track! I'm pretty sure I got this album within a month or two of it coming out but definitely didn't get it 'day of' so mine always had it (and it definitely 'got me' the first time!). A friend in my A/V class who knew I made a video to the Pixies earlier that year said "you know, if you like them, you'll like this new album by Nirvana" - so I went to the local CD store that in those days let you listen to a copy at a headphone stand, skipped through a few tracks, listening to the first few minutes of some, and by the time I got to Krist warbling "Get Together" I was sold! Wound up copying the CD on a Maxell tape to listen to in the car (I had just gotten my driver's license) which only had a tape player, and on the other side was Pixies Trompe Le Monde - that tape didn't leave the player for literally months! A very heady time......

@@langdonboom Love that story! And yeah, if side one of Nevermind didn't hook you, no album could. How did you not have the "longbox" to your Nevermind CD on the wall with all your other ones? Or did you, and I'm blanking? In any case, I really miss having a tape deck in the car. I love remembering how an album would rule the car for weeks on end--sometimes entire summers. I wonder where your A/V class friend is now? These people play their roles, and serve their purposes in our lives, and sometimes turn us on to amazing music! I remember when listening stations started popping up. I thought they were so cool at the time. To this day, I don't take a record store seriously if they don't have a couple of turntables set up for customers to listen to stuff.

You're so right! Such a great pressing. Thanks, Tyler!

That's gotta be out there somewhere, no? I mean, Nirvana has such a hardcore fanbase, and I'm sure some of those folks are super tech savvy. Perhaps someone on a fan site can hook you up. Don't give up hope!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the episode. I'll definitely go along with the smoother mix, and I can hear what you mean about the guitar. They didn't do a bad job at all. I appreciate the kind words, and welcome to the channel!

Haha, I've been beating the bushes to find a band you've heard of! You're absolutely right about quality digital files and unworthy digital files. That's not my complaint. You hit the nail on the head with the last thing you said about the wrong guy being given the job. I don't understand how you have a master chef in the kitchen (RKS) waiting to cook a gourmet meal--but then you have someone else go out and buy the groceries. Too many cooks.

You're lucky. If you've never heard of all the music Hollis is bringing up, then you still get to experience that opening novelty phase of discovering music. That's the best part. When you can play the same song over and over for days and still love every moment of it. All I do nowadays is chase the dragon looking for those moments and missing my youth when everyday felt like that.

@@PopCultureGraveyard I see… the Nirvana situation is perhaps a little more complicated than others in that there seems to be different ownership & different control of different songs etc (I daresay others including yourself will know far more about this kind of thing than I do -@least when it comes to this band) but I understand that Courtney Love may well have much more say in what happens than anyone actually present at the recordings? She certainly seems to be opinionated about recording quality and practices and I remember an interview where she was very scathing towards Steve Albini in general and what he did with PJ Harvey‘s recordings in particular(FWIW I don’t agree with her on this myself but I do concede she is better at finding lost aeroplanes than I am so who am I to judge?!) The main point I’m getting at is that there will definitely be Opinionated and interested parties who will have to “sign off” on all this so could there be method to the madness? I’m happy that there is a healthy resurgence/interest in the vinyl format but is it so desperate a market that they need to compromise to get stuff out quickly?! I suppose I’m envisaging a situation where those concerned have thought long and hard about all this and have listened back to the final result and (shameful scratching of the vinyl aside)are happy with these results🤷‍♂️

@@LividImp that is TOO cool!👍 Thank you for sharing that

​@@BeesWaxMinder I believe (but could be wrong) that Frances is about to have more say in these things than Courtney does. She inherits all Kurt's royalties once she turns 30, which she does next year. (God, I'm old.) Anyway, the decision making regarding these productions, has little to do with either of them, as a company named Primary Wave Music oversees all the administrative rights to Kurt's music. (Unless they've sold it to someone else.) As far as I understand it, when it comes to vinyl, the main reason people cut from digital is to save money. I haven't heard that process ever having been done for quality reasons--quality very well may be a reason, but I've never heard it mentioned. I'd really like to believe your scenario that those concerned parties actually gave this production so much thought. But I'd honestly be shocked if they even listened back to the final result.

Haha! I think it's designed to do just that!

Thank you, Steven! So glad you enjoyed the episode!

Very cool! I haven't heard of anyone else having that.

@@PopCultureGraveyard I wish it wasn't like that, confused me at first thinking endless, nameless wasn't on it.

Haha! Yep, that’s zealots of all stripes. The Ministry of Pointless Purity, perhaps?

Sweet! Talk about a fantastic album! Doing the Husker Du episode was one of my favorites.

@@PopCultureGraveyard Two thumbs up on that one. And not just because of the shout out!

Haha! I covered his privates on the thumbnail so he wouldn't come after me!

That bodes well for your sister. As for digital, it was cut at GZ, in the Check Republic, where they MOSTLY cut albums using digital files. If it's a full AAA analog chain, they usually advertise it. And I am enjoying myself while filming. Answering this comment, though... not so much. Thanks

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review! (PS: That level of violence, though, can only be found on my Patreon...)

Wow. That's definitely a hot take. I love Soundgarden, saw them on the Superunknown tour. But I definitely wouldn't put them (or any other "grunge" band) above Nirvana. As you say, different taste.

You could not possibly be more wrong. And believe me, I have a natural inclination to be a iconoclast, and Nirvana fans often makes me want to hate Nirvana. If I could possibly hate Nirvana, I would, but it simply isn't possible. Nevermind is a masterpiece.

@@LividImp there are people who think Sgt. Pepper and Pet Sounds are garbage. I'm not one of those people, but they certainly exist. My point is that the appreciation of music is a subjective and individual experience and can not be quantified in an objective way. After the initial impact of the sound wore off, I bored of it pretty quickly. The virtual deification of Cobain after his suicide by many people hardened my feelings about it. As a long time resident of the Seattle area I am put off by the cultural ideas and norms that Nirvana reflected and perpetuated. I refer to the tendency towards mopey, self absorbed, nihilistic navel gazing and the glamorizing of hard drug use. Every single day I see people on the street following the Cobain cult who measure their lives in drug scores carrying banged up acoustic guitars that they can barely bash out a couple of open chords on. They call it acoustic punk. I call it being a lazy degerate hack. That's the legacy of Kurt Cobain and Nirvana to me. That's my opinion. You are welcome to yours. I do give them some credit for contributing to the decline of so called "hair metal." These kind of debates can be entertaining, but we won't likely change each other's mind.

@@catsofsherman1316 Read what you wrote. You're irritated with the fandom and the encroachment of mainstream nitwits polluting the culture. I get that, and I feel ya. But that has nothing to do with the music. From about 1994 to 2004 I refused to listen to Nevermind because I had become so sick of it. But one day in 2004 I was bored and gave it another spin and was reminded why I loved it so much in 1991. It really is good. Maybe not the best, but still a masterpiece of good ol' fashion youthful rock n roll. A rare mix of raw and poppy. A mix that most artists never stumble onto because they are too busy trying to be overly serious and artsy, or worse just trying to move units. Give it another shot outside the distraction of its cultural impact.

@@LividImp Ok. It is good to reassess things after a lot of time has passed.