NO Android Auto on the new Harley's, Why?

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In the Friction Zone

In the Friction Zone

18 күн бұрын

Join me as I talk about Android Auto and Harley's new infotainment system.
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@ryans.4234
@ryans.4234 9 күн бұрын
That Onince box works well. I just did 100 miles on my CVO Roadglide ST with the box in 100 degree heat. Worked like a champ. Map, spotify, text and calling all worked and the screen layout is good! Thanks for looking out and the recommendation.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 9 күн бұрын
Appreciate the feedback, it is more responsive than the original Camecho. I can also get to and from the side menu with the hand controls.
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures 12 күн бұрын
I ended up switching to an iPhone. I was tired of playing the games with android. I miss my android, but it was worth the switch.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 12 күн бұрын
You are not alone, I am seeing comments and emails from others who opted to switch but then I see the same of them switching back to Android because they couldn't live with the iPhone. I think an AI box with a SIM, if you have an Android phone with a physical SIM that you could move over to the AI box for trips might be a good alternative for many. But the boxes have their own issues!
@afranke1845
@afranke1845 9 күн бұрын
Great videos. I appreciate the "enthusiast" disclaimers you put in these. I purchased the AI Magic Box from your link. As you pointed out, it's not perfect, some steering wheel controls / buttons do not work like "play" / "pause" however the Android 10 box is a good solution. Thanks for your research on this! I am using this on a 2024 Street Glide. I installed a small USB charging port in my right hand saddle bag, powered from the trickle charging port. This gives me fuse protection and a quick disconnect when pulling the bag off. My Bluetooth "headset" is powered and stored here as well as having a second port for charging my phone. This leaves the magic box in the front storage tray by itself, leaving the tray clutter free. I also carry a small tire plug kit and 12 vdc tire inflater that can be powered from the trickle charging plug as well.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 9 күн бұрын
Awesome! Yes adding another power source is a great addition. Only if we could easily get a true second data port!
@jasontgillies
@jasontgillies 15 күн бұрын
It would be so nice to have android auto on my bike. Not sure I'm willing to fight for it. I really appreciate your videos! Keep up the great work.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
Using the Bluetooth connection to an Android phone will give you most of the functionality minus Nav unless you have Harley's activated. Just need to get the radio bug fixed. For me during a normal commuting week I just use bluetooth for my phone.
@stuartberke5845
@stuartberke5845 16 күн бұрын
Another great video tom. The buggy boxes still annoy me but I'm hanging in there hoping one day AA will be on the bike. Keep em coming. Can't wait for the next one.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
You know I will be watching for the update!
@scotta6610
@scotta6610 16 күн бұрын
Your videos continue to be the best … thanks for taking the time to do these.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
You are most welcome! Appreciate your support!
@jamiemetzger
@jamiemetzger 14 күн бұрын
That BT bug has been driving me crazy. Every single time my phone gets pinged with anything, my IFCU jumps over to BT audio and I have to manually switch it over every time... So glad to hear they are working on a fix. Thanks for all the great info, I'll be doing that vent modification soon.👍
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
Yes a crazy bug for sure, the call for Bluetooth should be an easy fix to implement but it will be another OS update. Hope we see other improvements for sure!
@4wdiesels
@4wdiesels 16 күн бұрын
I have a solution. Google and H-D can give us Android Auto or they can give us the embedded Nav for free! I'm not a fan of the Apple product but I may switch since Google is being petty.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
I have the Nav included with my CVO, its not a great alternative in its current form!
@RGONZ1
@RGONZ1 16 күн бұрын
The new soundstream v2 head unit made for harley-davidson street glide n road glide just came out maybe a week or 2 ago has wireless android auto and Apple carplay, and it works great.That head unit is specifically made for motorcycles.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Yep but does not fit these new bikes. Since the new system is so integrated I am not sure how quickly we will see an option but I suspect we will.
@RGONZ1
@RGONZ1 15 күн бұрын
@ITFZone I just didn't understand why Google is saying there not continuing android auto for motorcycles, but allowed precision power to use android auto on their new soundstream v2 head unit specifically made for motorcycles.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
@@RGONZ1 I think it has to do with the OS version. I believe they are using an older base OS which has AA grandfathered in. This is my guess. HOPEFULLY we will see an official answer from any of the companies at some point.
@VTG63
@VTG63 16 күн бұрын
Great video, I'm holding out for an update to the OS system, I'm blessed to be a Goldwing rider and 24 RG rider, when I purchased my 2018 Goldwing new from Honda, we did not have Android, just Apple carplay, within about six months or so, Honda released an update for Android, so I truly believe it's coming, I have to believe it involves $$$$, hopefully someone will release the funds and we Android users can use our phones through the OS system, my opinion, for what it's worth.......
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Fingers are crossed!
@bobhacker420
@bobhacker420 16 күн бұрын
Adding to the mystery, the new Diamond Audio & Soundstream head units for 14-23 Harleys came out this year & both have wireless AA & CP.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Won't fit these new bikes but I do suspect we will see something!
@user-io1kz8je8c
@user-io1kz8je8c 4 күн бұрын
I bought this Onice box and found if you connect to it bluetooth it acts as a headset and then connect your phone to it bluetooth to get Android Auto on the screen.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 3 күн бұрын
Yes! This feature was on the Camecho boxes but it stopped working after the latest SkyLine OS update. The BT headset would not stay connected after Harley's last update.
@brucem8129
@brucem8129 16 күн бұрын
Good job
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Appreciate the support!
@timnevitt2993
@timnevitt2993 16 күн бұрын
the biggest problem is overheating and i have left the lid open going down the road to help with cooling
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Yes they do over heat, if we could mount them outside the cubby we would be set. They are built for air conditioned cars!
@paineys3341
@paineys3341 15 күн бұрын
my boom gts which I have my phone connected for text messages. if I'm listening to music and I get a phone call my music stops and it says on the screen accept or cancel, I cancel as I don't have a microphone , its the same if I have a text, if I click listen when moving then music will stop and the text will be spoken. Does the new skyline OS have the capability to send an auto text message ? If Im riding and someone texts me, I can listen to it or read it if stopped, also my bike sends a automated text saying 'Sorry Im out riding, I will respond later' , this message is completely customisable, didn't know if the new system had it
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
The challenge with the Android bug is that it does not switch back so you are left at a Bluetooth screen. The SkyLine OS does offer auto responses to text messages.
@NYCuda
@NYCuda 14 күн бұрын
If you look at the March flash, and dig into the file structure, you will find that the IFCU looks to be running an Android OS. So, I find the lack of Android auto kind of funny.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
Agree, the release articles indicate HTML 5, Linux but for sure signs of a Google OS.
@NYCuda
@NYCuda 14 күн бұрын
@@ITFZone another funny thing - the folder INSTANA_240002237D.zip\INSTANA_240002237D\orch-pkg\update-pkg\devices\alexa
@NYCuda
@NYCuda 14 күн бұрын
@@ITFZone And you are correct - looking again, I see a bunch of shell script files
@alanincentraljersey
@alanincentraljersey 16 күн бұрын
Hi Tom, my fiancé has a 2017 SG and she’s an Android user. Did you ever have a post showing how to add AA on her bike?
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 16 күн бұрын
I believe it was the 2019 model year when CarPlay and then AA showed up. Not aware of the option for prior years.
@wikedcool15
@wikedcool15 16 күн бұрын
HD does offer the BoomBox GTS as an upgrade kit, you should double check but it should work on most 14-18 touring models with the purchase of a seperate USB connector. I do not know if it comes with CP/AA or if they can even be installed, you should see if your dealer could verify this for you.
@rnbunnell
@rnbunnell 14 күн бұрын
I believe apple and harley have a contact where apple provides the software for free or whatever as long as android isn't offered. It's all about money. Why else would Harleys nav suck. It's to get more people switch over to Apple
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 13 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I am seeing many comment that they switched over, some going back to Android. Its just unfortunate!!
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 12 күн бұрын
Android is no longer giving New certs for new gear. It’s across the entire motorcycle industry, even aftermarket. There’s a workaround to get Android Auto that actually works.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 12 күн бұрын
Would be great to see a statement from Google. If Google is going to discriminate against motorcyclists, we may need to consider the IOS platform!
@petejones961
@petejones961 16 күн бұрын
Seems to me that someone just simply forgot to put it in
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
LOL, Let's hope so!
@EstosWebos
@EstosWebos 15 күн бұрын
The minute I can switch back to android I will.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
I don't blame you! If you go with an older iPhone that supports a SIM card you could swap you SIM back and forth and use the iPhone just for the bike.
@zavlo72
@zavlo72 16 күн бұрын
I don't apple! Harley Nav Isn't very detailed, loads slow, sometimes just doesn't display (yes have latest update) Android boxes (commeco) doesn't always load, takes a long time. Some features work with buttons, some thing have to use touchscreen. (Not a reliable option) All options suck! I mounted my phone to the bars and use google maps for decent directions. Paid good money and disappointing options! I want Android Auto! In the meantime Harley your Nav could use some upgrades!
@VTG63
@VTG63 16 күн бұрын
U are so rt, I use my phone from the bars as well, very reliable!!!!
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Don't disagree!
@simmon81au
@simmon81au 9 күн бұрын
Can't you just use an Android Auto dongle?
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 9 күн бұрын
Unfortunately not, since the bike only supports CarPlay you need an AI box that supports OEM CarPlay. However with this new display you also need one based on Android OS V10 or the gauges will overlap the AI display.
@RaymondDuhamel
@RaymondDuhamel 3 сағат бұрын
JE VEUT TRANSFERE MOM GOOGLE MAP DE MON CELL ENDROID DANS MON STREET GLIDE 2024 SKYLINE OS CES QUOI LA MEILLEURE OPTION MERCI
@quiettime6871
@quiettime6871 14 күн бұрын
Multiple issues like this, the clutch and all the buttons being in strange places led me to trade off my 2024 RG. Don't see myself buying another Harley at this point.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
Do you have an older Harley on hand or different brand? We will see what happens overtime. I am very curious what Q2 and Q3 sales look like!
@quiettime6871
@quiettime6871 14 күн бұрын
@@ITFZone I still have my 2019 RG Ultra. 43,000 miles on it, I'm very comfortable with it. The nav works the way I want, I like the smoothness of the hydraulic clutch and I know where all the buttons are. If only it was as fast as that 117 but it's close!
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 14 күн бұрын
@@quiettime6871 Yes indeed the new motors are awesome but you could always upgrade your M8. Enjoy the ride!
@marcdebaets9966
@marcdebaets9966 16 күн бұрын
bought a Street glide CVO2024, i was an android user. So i bought a iphone 15 pro. BIG mistake, expensive shitty phone ( can anyone tell me why that piece of crap cost so much ? ) and it don't work well with the infothainment system. Harley, Apple and Google, get your shit together, there is nothing wrong with our money that we pay for your stuff
@Stripping_Bolts
@Stripping_Bolts 16 күн бұрын
Nice bike, apple is trash. I have a 24 road glide and am waiting for a product or update for AA because I'll never downgrade to apple from my Samsung fold
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
Android and Apple people are different! Nobody should have to or want to change platforms for this bike!
@Stripping_Bolts
@Stripping_Bolts 15 күн бұрын
@ITFZone seriously... someone told me they used an ottocast to get AA on their bike but it was a 2021 with the boom box OS. I gotta see if it's compatible with the 24. I hear it works great and is very fast to load
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 15 күн бұрын
I had no luck with the Ottocast. Has to be Android V10 to work. The Onince I showed in this video is pretty good, faster than the original Camecho but time is limited with it thus far.
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 12 күн бұрын
They make some of the best, if not the best, hardware on the market. You not liking the software is understandable, coming from an Android.
@metricwrencher8702
@metricwrencher8702 9 күн бұрын
Because Harley went woke. They follow and no longer lead.
@ITFZone
@ITFZone 8 күн бұрын
I think they are innovative especially around compliance requirements but were they ready for such a technology leap. But those of us who have been faithful for so long probably never thought having CarPlay on a Harley would ever have any importance!
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