These kids have more camera angles than the damn NHL. Felt like we were taking this to Toronto to be inspected on further review 😂

Goal or not, it was a great play!! Kudos for the kids teamwork and passing to put it in the net.

The goal frame was dislodged by the goalie. In the NHL it would be a good goal. In a USA Hockey sanctioned play must stop immediately. Many goalies in these games will intentionally dislodge the goal frame to stop play so they don't get scored on. I've seen it done many times watching my son play hockey growing up. It's frustrating to watch and happens way too often. This USA Hockey rule needs to change.

As a long time USA Hockey, junior, college ref, what stands out to me the most is how lazy that referee is. There’s no way that a referee should behind the play at that level. To be caught is one thing, to be gliding is another. What an embarrassment!

The real problem here may be how easy that net came off.I understand the safety aspect to prevent injuries but that just seemed to easy.

Look, I was in this game, number 28 in the first slow motion replay. The reason it was called off was because the net was off if any one was wondering. At our age it should be pegged but for some reason the net wasn’t

Net was clearly off although the ref should be at the goal line, so people don’t have a reason to complain.

Rule 5-section [g] "If filmed by more than 3 camera angles that flip back and forth the play will be automatically overturned because Brad Marchand"

This is one of the many inconsistencies and poorly thought out formats and rules that USA Hockey refuses to address for some odd reason. This situation is a hindsight call. If the ref was unable to detect that the goal was dislodged prior to the whistle indicating a goal the goal should count. By the time the ref realized the net was dislodged, the danger was over, and the puck was in the net. There was no point to the rule at the end of it. Why USA hockey doesn’t address rules like this that create so much controversy, especially in a time when officials are constantly on edge is beyond me.

When I played, I had a one on one going in the zone up the boards. I bent down to get under a check. My helmet broke and my face mask was dangling from my helmet not cover my face. I came up with the puck and was headed for the goal. The puck found it’s way to the back of the net. The ref called no goal because of my face mask situation. The ref was in front of me and could see my mask was not covering my face well before I took the shot. The coach on the other team started a chant “Give the kid the goal”. The ref wouldn’t budge. After the game the opposing coach told me that it was a great shot and a good goal. Bottom line, the ref should have blown the whistle at the time of the “violation” and not allowed play to continue. I never lost control of the puck.

Beauty goal And...do you guys do replay? Lol multiple c cameras for peewee hockey

good call. this is NOT a goal under the USAhockey rule book. Rule 610(e) in the USA Hockey Playing Rules states, “Play shall be stopped immediately when the goal frame has been displaced from its normal position.”

it's a goal ....................read the rules " In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal."

I absolutely despise this rule....when it is not in my team's favour. LOL Awesome play by the kids!! Cannot say enough good about that. I now feel sorry for the ref for being put in that position by an insanely stupid rule. Will also point out that it wasn't the goalie's fault either as he was in desparation mode trying to get across the crease. Once again, an insanely stupid rule and, as far a I've heard, there is no discretion afforded the referree's in this situation. If the net is off for any reason, there is no goal. I watch Jr. A and it is the same thing.

Was the player offside at 5 sec point of video? Great team work

This is the same design of an arena from where I live, I was watching and was like wait... that looks like an arena from my county.

Wow, these kids knew the spirit of team sports more than many professional players!

and you wonder why there is a nationwide shortages of officials in youth sports....

OK, I fell for the click bait. Without more, like an explanation from the referee that was false, or more of the game to see if this was a pattern or something, you cannot suggest this is a one-sided referee. Congratulations, you got me.

How come the net moving due to the goalies push count as a no goal? I'm a goalie and I hit the post pretty good and I've never had a goal taken away due to the net moving.

Thanks for posting the video (and even the slo mo portion). Based on the comments below, shows being a Hockey Ref is harder than you might think if you;re just watching from the stands.

"Rule 610(e) in the USA Hockey Playing Rules states, “Play shall be stopped immediately when the goal frame has been displaced from its normal position.” Therefore, the officials must disallow a goal if they are 100% certain the goal frame was displaced prior to the puck crossing the goal line.... If the goal frame is deliberately displaced in the last two minutes of the game or anytime in overtime, a penalty shot/optional minor penalty shall be assessed.... If a player on the defending team deliberately displaces the goalpost when the goalkeeper has been removed, if in the opinion of the Referee, the puck would have entered the goal - thereby preventing an obvious and imminent goal - a goal shall be awarded in lieu of the penalty shot." So that is the rule. It doesn't appear that the referee thought the goalie deliberately displaced the goal, so he made the right call. What you have to understand is that often at younger levels, the posts are not anchored very deeply and move quite easily. It is part of the game. It is a trade off for player safety as if a kid goes flying into the net, the net needs little pressure to move. That said, I am sure the team that scored the disallowed goal will have benefited an equal amount of times from the same call going in their favor against their goalie who did not deliberately displace the goal. It is just part of the game. Give the official a break. We are loosing officials because of coaches and parents who think that they know the rules better and then take their anger out on them. Seriously, use this as a lesson to teach sportsmanship by the players and not so much by the coaches and parents.

Ref just out there coasting ... either way, amazing play from the youngsters!

From behind the net it looked like the goalie kicked the net off but that no reason to disallow that right?

Hockey Canada Rule: 10.4 SITUATION 7 No goal is to be allowed if the goal is off its mooring, regardless of whether or not the goal may have been deliberately knocked from its mooring, except under Rule 4.9 (b) - Penalty Shot, when the goaltender has deliberately dislodged the goal from its mooring during a Penalty Shot or again under Rule 4.10 (b) - Awarded Goals, when the goaltender has been removed and they or any teammate has deliberately dislodged the goal from its mooring and such action has prevented a goal from being scored. USA Hockey Rule: 610 (c) Play shall be stopped immediately when the goal frame has been displaced from its normal position. A minor penalty shall be assessed to any player (including a goalkeeper) who deliberately displaces the goal frame. Ref got the call right. Situation still sucks, it realistically should be a goal, but that is on HC and USAH, not the stripes out there. Although he still shouldn't be that far behind the play in a U12 game. Also, the play was 100% onside.

I remember playing for this team. Was a great time. Moved on to High School Hockey now.

Was the net off it's moorings?

What was the call for no goal?

I don't think he dislodged it on purpose. Extension of the leg to seal the post is proper play. Additionally, I think he was anticipating the puck going far side for either pass or shot as you can see him raising his right leg to push back, but when the post is dislodged he can no longer push off it.

Seen the exact same play by goalies a lot. Once 3 times in a junior B game costing one team 2 goals. They gotta come up with a delay of game call if the goalie is not touched or allow the goals to stand!

Was it not offsides to start with?

Why was it called off ?

As a hockey player myself there is no offsides as the player wasn't completely over the blue line but the net was dislodged by the goalies skate blade so if this was an NHL game the whistle would be blown as a call for NO GOAL the way the play was called. Also the guy in the back making the goal call wasn't paying attention to the puck as he would easily see the net get dislodged.

The net wasn't even on the line when the puck went in so tht wouldn't count as is

I coached in Mass and we played a lot in NY.Other team on breakaway shoots goalie save shooter falls down slides in goalie both go into net Ref called it a goal.Another time in Maine tied 3-3 Ref calls 2 different player for 2 min penalty Ended 3-3 but we had 17 called on us 2 on other team.Other coach couldn't say how sorry he was and the other players class act by them

The net was off. It's a good call?

NO GOAL (e) Play shall be stopped immediately when the goal frame has been displaced from its normal position. A minor penalty shall be assessed to any player (including a goalkeeper) who deliberately displaces the goal frame. If the defending team deliberately displaces the goal frame during a breakaway (see Glossary) or deprives the attacking team of an immediate scoring opportunity, a penalty shot/optional minor penalty shall be awarded to the player in possession of the puck. If the goal frame is deliberately displaced in the last two minutes of the game or anytime in overtime, a penalty shot/optional minor penalty shall be assessed. If a player on the defending team deliberately displaces the goalpost when the goalkeeper has been removed, if in the opinion of the Referee, the puck would have entered the goal - thereby preventing an obvious and imminent goal - a goal shall be awarded in lieu of the penalty shot.

Also a USA Hockey referee for 15 consecutive seasons. This should have been considered an imminent scoring opportunity regardless of the nets positioning and goal should have counted. Taking the rules too literally without applying common sense and judgement is worse than not knowing the rules at all. That said, a lot of people aren’t mindful that this guy (similar to myself) are not professional referees and have day jobs families and other hobby’s. This is a kids game and some parent (likely the goal scorers) dad had the time and energy upload an amateur referee making a mistake. To who posted this…”imagine if we uploaded all the videos of you kid missing open nets and crashing in the boards because he can’t skate?” It’s an amateur game, right size your expectations or before you know it, their won’t be any refs left to work little Johnny’s games for volunteer wages in a freezing icebox… Just noticed it’s an IL (Hoffman Estates) team…not surprising at all. Ironically am from that area and work these teams. You can tell from the fact the parent has 4 go pros set up around the rink that hes living through his 12 year old son. Sad.

why does it cut away? I'd like to see an unedited video where the ref actually waves off the goal.

Was it offside?

yeah as a ref myself in Canada, to parrot what we already know it's a good goal. - Ref was not in a good spot, and the game always looks different from any angle. so i can give that respect, however; - Goalie knocked their own net, but no penalty shot should be given because it was not intentional - puck would have gone in even if the net wasnt knocked off - Attackers stayed outside of goalie crease. and ofc, no kick or highstick anywhere

I can tell you one thing, the ref is NOT one-sided. 1, he is simply going by USA hockey rules. 2, ITS U12 HOCKEY

Nice play man ps that was a good goal

My Swedish team and I went to Chicago for a hockey trip/tournament. We met Timberwolves in a group-stage game in that tournament. :D

Parents literally need to be put in a isolation box cause they have no idea what the rules of this game are

LOL. Net was off. Goal can't be scored with the net is off the moorings. Pretty straight forward, really. The fact the rink is full of people who dont know the rules makes it even funnier. The kids may be AA, but the parents hockey IQ is in House League. The fact you posted the video, in slow motion, and still blame the referee for making the right call is a great example of how little you know about the game.

I think in a minor game play stops immediately if the net is dislodged. So I see where the ref is coming from

I am a ref also, I see why that he called no goal, I would have called it a goal, but since the net came out of position I see why, the net moved before the pick went it

After reading the caption and some comments, how in the world could you call the official biased? If he was against the scoring team, the ref would have called the play offside. Personally, I think that play was good. The referee called it appropriately whether you like it or not. No off-side: black and white call No goal: rule book says so No penalty: Judgement call, I'm good with the call made. It didn't look intentional that the goalie dislodged the net

I love the fact that a disallowed goal in a youth hockey game made a parent go through at least 7 different camera angles to put together a video. End game? Show how 1st world problems are dragging us down?

Wasn't it offside too going into the attacking zone?

I feel the pain. This happens to me all the time

That’s a no goal! The goalie knocked the net off while he slid to the right.

The goal was moved a tiny bit. Still would have gone in tho I think

I actually work at that rink. There isn't a ton of consistency in how firmly the net is stuck in place. It's often my job to move the nets after games and they are sometimes very easy to dislodge and other times they stay in place unless you really push. I'm not sure why the inconsistency exists, though

the call on the ice stands the player to the left was in the zone before the puck which makes it offside

Kid on the left looked like he might have been off sides by half a step. Terrible call though, if you're gonna hold off on the whistle that long you just let it ride.

As a tendy that is a goal the kid knocked it I know that wasn’t on purpose but it was going to go in anyways I’ve been told that by the head of our refs where I live

Was the goal even pegged in. It just floated back without popping up from what it looks like.

He complained the net was off? I was I St. Louis this week and we were in a tight game up 2 and I make like 2 saves in a row I keep telling the net is off and nothing was done make another save raps it around and he waves it off. A minute later he decided nevermind it counts.

If you actually think this isnt a goal because the goalie knocked the net off, you do not know hockey lmao. Thats 100% a goal.

What was the score of the game at this point? Was it 7-0 and that would have made it 8-0? If that was the case and there was a "slight" dislodge, I can see calling it a no goal. But a close game, I would have been with my face in the rule book if I was the coach. Can the goal be overturned at that level? We only saw 1:38 of play. As for the ref, stop gliding and ref the game as if it was more than a Sunday pick-up league.

The best part that everyone is missing is that push the passing player gave to a defenseman after the goal lol

I cant even tell if the net was dislodged, may have been offside but COME ON! that infuriates me, though good or not, it was stiill a great play.

What was the call

I'm surprised it wasn't blown dead at the blue line, I think he was offsides. As for the net, what was holding it in place? Hopes and prayers? As for the goal, WOW. I haven't seen passing like that since covid.

just happened to my team 2nd round playoffs

Where i play this happens all the time

Coachable moment for coaches and parents. The game is very much mental. You regroup, work hard and continue to compete. Good and bad calls are going to happen along with good and bad plays. They are young and making a positive out of it will continue their growth.

Future NHL ref in training. He's doing great.

This is a very interesting situation. Although I have not had to deal with a call such as this one, I do believe it is the correct decision to rule it "no-goal". I assume the officials in question are USA Hockey officials, judging by the crests. According to Rule 610 (e) "Play shall be stopped immediately when the goal frame has been displaced from its normal position." It seems that the goaltender accidentally pushed the net off, as they are held on with metal pegs that have a very small, dull spike (about half an inch) that dig into the ice, keeping the net from sliding off all the time. In my opinion, this appears to be "no-goal", as the net came off the goal-line before the puck went in. I could be wrong however, and would be more than happy to admit that. This is just my opinion from my experience and knowledge.

Goal!GOAL! Hey ref just because you have a relative on the losing team and a brother in the stands telling you how to ref a game, where a GOOD team is winning vs a BAD team is losing and a brother named Karen reffing in the stands is telling me that you should just skate off the ice with a sign saying I quit because I don't know to to ref a kids game!

The net was off before the puck crossed the line no goal what's the issue

In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal. soo that was 100% a goal

Could that be a penalty shot for moving the goal (goalie did move the goal with his right foot/skate) intentionally?

Not only was it a goal, it was a GREAT play- passing in front of the net and not being selfish. Shame on the ref.

Bro thats where I play hockey😳

Did number 11 lift his skate and therefore Offsides???

wasn't there a coincidence in the goal area ??

It was an awesome play and all but the goalies net was off so maybe that’s why if didn’t count

How old are the kids

I was shocked at first but it was actually the CORRECT call. From 1:15, you can see the goalies right skate touch the goal post, slightly dislodging it. It didn't seem intentional at all, but the posts are probably on soft pegs so that children are less likely to get hurt if they skate or slide into the net. Pegs should be a bit stronger tho..

I was at this game I could not believe that call

why is this video edited like a fever dream???

What was the ref arguing ????

I agree it sucks but that is the rule. The puck must have been shot or in the act of being shot prior to the net being displaced but the net was out at 1:18 and the shot taken at 1:21. 63.6 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal. In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have been displaced by the actions a defending player or goalkeeper, the puck must have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

Great play. Looks like the net may have moved also.

That was a great play. I’m also 21 good number

Well the rules for minor hockey state that it is no goal, but they also are clear about how that's a delay of game penalty on the goalie.

The net was off but good play

Let's change the rule. Goal scored before the whistle is a goal . Goalie or his team dislodge the net when other team has possetion of the puck is a penalty shot for other team . I ve always hated that rule but used it also.

In Sweden it's a goal anyway IF the puck "should" have go in, even if the net is out of position.

The net is clearly off its moorings. Look at the right post in the behind the net camera angle. If that post holds, the net doesn’t come off and MAYBE the goalie can push off it and come back to make the save. GOOD CALL REFFY!!

Must be anchorage Alaska. Sivy, he gets pleasure out of calling off good goals🤣

pretty sure it was also off sides, around 0:05 i paused it and 11 was across the blue lind

I hope the leafs draft #21. The kid has got moves💪

Nylander & Bäckström 🔥

if you notice official has no arm bands which means he is also doing lines that is why he is back . Also watch the player on the far side when he crosses the blue line he is offside, should have dragged back foot.

That was an impressive play for 12U. Unfortunate call, but the rules are the rules. Can't really blame the ref for enforcing the rules, no matter how dumb they are.

there might have been a very slight off-sides but I don't think any ref. would notice/care about it