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No Holiness, No Heaven?: Is That True? - Hebrews

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@CarolThompson-dh9mo
@CarolThompson-dh9mo Күн бұрын
Thanks for THIS SCRIPTURE WAS ALWAYS USED TO MAKE ME DOUBT MY ASSURANCE WHEN I FAILED TO WALK CONSISTENTLY IN THE PURSUIT OF HOLINESS. KEEP ON TEACHING THE WORD OF GOD.😮
@timgrady4630
@timgrady4630 Ай бұрын
So clear , Bob . All attempts to "come in some other way" than simple childlike faith in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Life , are utterly futile . Only the little ones can understand and believe in Him , instantly having Never Ending Life at that moment (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) . Cuz He cannot lie to the little bebes , unhindered by years of self righteous hardening . No better news , ever .
@thinkspot
@thinkspot Ай бұрын
I was just listening to the Greg Lorie (Jesus Revolution Movie) radio show this morning making a case for Hell regarding "alleged Christian's" who have "regular or habitual" sin issues. Looking to salvation based on the actions of the sinner rather than the actions of The Savior. Fruits, not Roots. He makes a compelling argument that had me in bondage for most of my life.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
Does he quote? Galatians 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 2 Corinthians 5:15,17 and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
@theneverending9319
@theneverending9319 Ай бұрын
Walking in love and righteous is what God desires for us to do as we grow in Christ. But trying to making it a salvation thing would give no one assurance, I mean we all sin even if we think it's minor. It's amazing how many Christians focus on sexual sins but ignore things like gossiping and being unloving as sins. People pick and choose.
@thinkspot
@thinkspot Ай бұрын
@@theneverending9319 Thanks for the great insight my friend.......
@Liminalplace1
@Liminalplace1 10 күн бұрын
"Holiness" is a status, an identity that's given by God that cannot be gained or lost.
@ChrisLegg17
@ChrisLegg17 Ай бұрын
Amen Dr. Bob!
@inChristLife
@inChristLife Ай бұрын
Lordship salvation is clearly an exchange - if I give the right things to God, He will give me eternal life in exchange
@michaelparsons7474
@michaelparsons7474 Ай бұрын
Exactly! They use words like "commitment," which means "promise." They promise repentance and obedience in exchange for God's promise of everlasting life. This exchange of promises is known in the law as a CONTRACT, in which each party is legally entitled to the promised consideration of the other. The promised consideration is COSTLY to each party. The Bible, however, teaches that everlasting life is a GIFT, which costs the recipient nothing.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@michaelparsons7474 Actually Jesus is the one who preached what is today mockingly called Lordship Salvation. We are all under the Lordship of Jesus or the lordship of satan. They both have opposing kingdoms. There is no in-between.
@michaelparsons7474
@michaelparsons7474 Ай бұрын
​@2Chronicles714_ see my reply above. According to Jesus, everlasting life is a gift. According to you, everlasting life is consideration that God promises to you in exchange for your promise to Him of repentance and obedience. To you, salvation is a bargain to be struck with God.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@michaelparsons7474 What was Jesus's final command after the resurrection for true repentant believers to preach? Simply believe in John 3:16 for everlasting life? No that's a man-made teaching. Luke 24:44-47 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, And REPENTANCE FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS will be preached in His name to ALL NATIONS Starting in Jerusalem. Read it again. Jesus said Preach repentance for the forgiveness of sins not just to the house of Israel [which is another man-made teaching] but to the whole world. John's gospel is full of promises such as John 3:16 for true repentant believers that continue in the faith until the end. What has happened here is they have taken John's gospel that was clearly written for already repented believers in the church to encourage them to go believing that Jesus is the Son of God and if they continue believing they will go on to having everlasting life with God. Read John's gospel and from John 1:1 it is clear that John is presenting facts to that are mostly left out of the other gospels showcasing, if you will, overwhelming evidence that Jesus is the Son of God.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
My replies keep being taken down.
@dwaynejohnson4662
@dwaynejohnson4662 Ай бұрын
were saved by grace alone through faith and what christ has done for us. yes we walk in christ which is holiness. everything that christ did for me is applied to me.
@jsbc1988
@jsbc1988 Ай бұрын
Holiness in Hebrews 12:14 according to my Greek/ Hebrew key study Bible says This is a quality of holiness that can be perceived by others", the word is hagiosune (42) greek/hebrew study bible). to stand out or be conspicuous amongst our fellow man in a Godly manner. Hence our fellow man sees such a believer in a positive light by peaceful fruits of righteousness. To suggest that a believer has to be holy enough to merit salvation is utterly absurd. It’s music to the ears of the legalist.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@jsbc1988 Jesus said to strive to enter the narrow gate Sounds like we have to do more than believe in John 3:16 to have everlasting life with God unless Jesus is preaching Lordship Salvation?
@evilpixiedance
@evilpixiedance Ай бұрын
No Jesus’ blood, no heaven.
@nilsalmgren4492
@nilsalmgren4492 Ай бұрын
Jesus' blood is the sacrifice, but read in the old testament what a sacrifice does for an evil person. Of course you can read what Jesus said about evil doers who call him Lord.
@nilsalmgren4492
@nilsalmgren4492 Ай бұрын
Matthew 7 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many [s]miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
@chrisarmstrong3200
@chrisarmstrong3200 Ай бұрын
this refers to being born again ,the holy spirit indwells and starts the sanctification process
@TheElizabethashby
@TheElizabethashby Ай бұрын
JOHN 3: 1-21 KJV
@HChartierKJV
@HChartierKJV Ай бұрын
❤1 Corinthians 15:52 King James Version 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
@theneverending9319
@theneverending9319 Ай бұрын
It's amazing how they can preach salvation by grace and the same time teach works salvation. Most of these holiness types are some of the most arrogant and unkind people I've ever met that usually struggle with hidden sin. If it's the way he teaches no one would be saved.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
So you are saying the author of Hebrews in 12:14 is teaching works .
@soljos1190
@soljos1190 Ай бұрын
​@@2Chronicles714_ No , you are .
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@soljos1190 Is obedience to Jesus Christ works in your theology?
@soljos1190
@soljos1190 Ай бұрын
​@@2Chronicles714_ "Obedience" to WHAT (?) ...you very obviously didn't specify . Nor can you Objectively quantify . Therefore , you can never rest in certitude : the definition of Biblical faith . You're ultimately looking to your Filthy Rags Perseverance in Performance (works) as the "infallible metric" of your Everlasting destination . As futile as it is an Eternal "Mission Impossible" : Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . Your entire scheme is Calvinistic to the Core . Your ""Gift faith" affirmation is at the Heart of Calvinistic Theological Determinism . Then you supplement that with the "P" of their "TULIP": Your 4 NECESSARY CO-CONDITIONS to earn/merit/be rewarded with/be paid with/DESERVE the Unmerited, Unearned , and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Life ...by successfully completing the Performance Contract till death ... So , identical to Calvinistic Theological Determinism , unless one Perseveres till death in an Unknowable level (%) of hopefully (but NEVER QUANTIFIABLE) good enough behavioral performance (works) , then one just proves that one isn't one of the arbitrarily Zapped "Elect/Chosen ones" . So , just like Calvinistic Theological Determinism , you Top Out at the purely subjective phenomena (behavioral performance/works) as your "infallible metric" of where you end up for eternity . The very definition of unbelief in Him for what He actually Certifies : John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:1-39,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 ; Acts 16:31 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 & Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . Your affirmation of Works Righteousness can NEVER Work , Biblically .
@NYCNY92
@NYCNY92 24 күн бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_anything outside of faith is a work. You’re trading obedience, holiness for salvation therefore salvation isn’t free according you you which is a blatant rejection of Jesus sacrafise
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
Dr. Earley is correct. We are called to love God. We are called to walk in obedience. Romans 12:1-2 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship. 2DO NOT CONFORM TO THE PATTERN OF THIS WORLD, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will. Paul is asking the greatest thing he could ask a person,to offer their life as a sacrifice, not to another person, or a church, but a living sacrifice to God. What could be strong enough to motivate a person to give their own life away,for the sake of God,in the name of God? Paul tells us,it's actually embedded in verse 1. What are the mercys of God? The first 11 chapters in Romans explains what those mercys are. Romans 1-3 explains that we are sinners and enemies of God, that we deserve God's wrath but Chapters 4-5 he explains salvation and mercies of God in Jesus,how this is the greatest revelation of his love, mercy, and grace. Then in Romans 6&8 where we are told how to live the Christian life. Romans 6:1-23 1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 13LET NOT SIN THEREFORE REIGN IN YOUR MORTAL BODY, THAT YE SHOULD OBEY IT in the lusts thereof. 15NEITHER YIELD YE YOUR MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO SIN: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 👉15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 👈17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 19I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now YIELD YOUR MEMBERS SERVANTS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO HOLINESS. 20For when ye WERE THE SERVANTS OF SIN, ye were free from righteousness. 21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 8:1,4,6-9,13 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to them which are in Christ Jesus, WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT. 4That the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the law might be FULFILLED IN us,WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE BUT, AFTER THE SPIRIT. 6For TO BE CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Without repenting of sin one cannot receive the Holy Spirit [Acts 2:38] 13For IF YE LIVE AFTER THE FLESH, YE SHALL DIE: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
@jsbc1988
@jsbc1988 Ай бұрын
Imperatives are living out the Christian life. Indicatives are what God did for the believer. The first three chapters of Ephesians are all Indicatives. The wealth of the Saint. The last three chapters of Ephesians are the Imperatives: Living out what We already have. You conflate the two by front loading and back loading the Gospel with Imperatives (conditions- commandments) The only condition for receiving the Indicatives is to believe Gospel. Imperatives neither add nor subtract from the indicatives.
@soljos1190
@soljos1190 Ай бұрын
@2Chron714 Not one of your passages state what you're actually affirming . Where's your affirmative proof of the 4 NECESSARY CO-CONDITIONS of Earning/Meriting/ Working for/ being rewarded with/ being paid with /DESERVING the Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Everlasting Life in these (or any Single passage) , in the entirety of Scripture ? Further , where in these passages is the Eternal/Everlasting/Forever/Endless lake of fire (i.e. - Endless Condemnation) the Direct consequence of Not behaving well enough ? Being "holy" enough ?? We see the Total absence of any such Behavioral Metric in every one of those verses . So , your "point" is Objectively Pointless . All of those verses are clearly written to the already born again brethren in a Fellowship/Discipleship/Sanctification context . Not in a clear Evangelistic/eternal Justification before God setting . So , your continuing confusion of categories is borne of collapsing a once in a moment with forever consequence (the Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Life/Evangelism) with its subsequent living out till death (Discipleship Sanctification) . Thus , you're No Brainer incoherence of "Earning and meriting" Grace ; "Working for and DESERVING" the Free and Never Deserving Gift of irrevocable Life .
@jsbc1988
@jsbc1988 Ай бұрын
Copying and pasting a bunch of scriptures out of context with no exegesis is nothing more than a narrative you are pushing
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@jsbc1988 You really shouldn't accuse the Apostle Paul of front loading or back loading the gospel. Do you agree with Bob that certain scriptures in John's gospel such as John 3:16,5:14,& 6:47 give a license for immorality? You don't believe the gospel IF you don't obey the gospel
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@jsbc1988 IF what I copied are from the Apostle Paul, which they are it's clear that you have a problem with the Christian life. My agenda is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
@MainPointMinistries
@MainPointMinistries Ай бұрын
What good is having imputed righteousness, except for it to produce conditional righteousness in our everyday lives. If it doesn't exist conditionally in our daily living, I would highly doubt if it was ever imputed to begin with.
@NYCNY92
@NYCNY92 24 күн бұрын
That makes absolutely no sense! Why would u need something imputed that you could produce yourself. Please come out of your arrogance to think you could ever stand before god holy
@michaelc7418
@michaelc7418 Ай бұрын
This Romans passage completely proves Dave Earley wrong. ---------------------------- Romans 9:29 - And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. Romans 9:30 - What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. Romans 9:31 - But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Romans 9:32 - Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; Romans 9:33 - As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 10:1 - Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Romans 10:2 - For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. Romans 10:3 - For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. Romans 10:4 - For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Romans 10:5 - For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. Romans 10:6 - But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) ----------------------------
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd Ай бұрын
Matt 7:21 " Not every one who says "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES THE WILL of my Father.." Matt 7:24 " Every one then who hears these words of mine and DOES THEM will be like a wise man.....and every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them, will be like a foolish man" Luke 8:21 " My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and DO IT". Luke 13:24 " Strive to enter the narrow door..." John 3: 20 " For every one who does evil hates the light....but he who does what is true comes to the light..." John 6:27 " labor for the food that endures to eternal life..." John 8:12 " I am the light of the world, he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.." John 8:31 " If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples..." John 11:26 " Whoever LIVES AND BELIEVES in me shall never die.." Romans 6:16 " You are slaves of the one you OBEY, EITHER OF SIN.....OR OF OBEDIENCE ....have become OBEDIENT from the heart to the standard of teaching". Romans 8 " To set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace". Romans 12:1 " Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed formed by the renewal of your mind..." Gal 4:19 " Until Christ be formed in you' Gal 5:16 " Walk by the Spirit, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit.....those who BELONG TO CHRIST HAVE CRUCIFIED THE FLESH with its passions and desires...If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit." Eph 4:22 " Put off your old nature.....and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and PUT ON THE NEW NATURE, CREATED AFTER THE LIKENESS OF GOD IN TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HOLINESS". 1 John 1:7 " Walk in the light as he is in the light.....and the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin" 1 John 2:4 " He who says, "I know him" but disobey his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him..." Rev 2:10 " Be faithful unto death and you will receive the crown of life" There are soooooo many more, but GES believes that if you do the verses above, you are trying to earn your salvation and therefore, you are lost. But they say, if you walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, disobey his commands......never repent or confess your sins, you are saved.
@michaelparsons7474
@michaelparsons7474 Ай бұрын
I like that you quoted John 11:26. Let’s discuss that. A living person who believes in Jesus is guaranteed never to die. Do you believe this?
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd Ай бұрын
@@michaelparsons7474 this is what you think it says? " Whoever is a living person and believes in me..."? Lives, is a way of life, simply read the other scriptures I gave you and they let you know what it means....and yes I believe the person who " Lives and believes", will be guaranteed to never die, but I want to know about the person who quits Living and believing in Christ, like those in Heb 3:12 " Take care brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God" or in 1 Timothy 4:1 those who " Depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrine of demons, or those in Gal 5:4 who have been " severed from Christ and have fallen from grace..." TELL US, ARE THEY STILL SAVED? YES/NO And while we talk about John 11:26, let's talk about the rest of them......I will be waiting for your replies ... I believe we are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith and we become children of God by faith when we have been baptized into Christ, when we put Christ on, Gal 3:26-27
@michaelparsons7474
@michaelparsons7474 Ай бұрын
​@DannyLoyd that's exactly what it says. You give "lives" a meaning that supports your theology rather than allowing the context of John 11 to inform you what the word means.
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd Ай бұрын
@@michaelparsons7474 No, I give an answer that is correct, your answer makes no sense....according to John 11:26, we are to "LIVE" IN HIM AND "BELIEVE" IN HIM 1 John 2:24 " then you will ABIDE in the Son and in the Father.....abide in him, so that when he appears 1 John 4:9 " In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world SO THAT WE MIGHT LIVE THROUGH HIM....he who abides in love ABIDES IN GOD and God abides in him... 1 John 2:6 " he who says he abides in him OUGHTTO WALK IN THE SAME WAY IN WHICH HE WALKED" 1 JOHN 4:9 " THAT WE MIGHT LIVE THROUGH HIM", the same word as in John 11 and tell me what idea comes to your mind when it says that we are to "ABIDE" in him. And what I have said, is the context, you have to twist it to make it fit your doctrine and you simply ignore everything else in scriptures that was given. If you want, I can give you lots more.....LIVE AND BELIEVE IN HIM, IN HIM, IN HIM, I live in him and I believe in him, but now you need to answer my question I asked above, which you ignored, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PERSON WHO QUITS LIVING AND BELIEVING IN HIM? Tell us, what happens to the person who has an "EVIL AND UNBELIEVING HEART, leading you to FALL AWAY from the living God", are they still saved? and tell us about the ones who " DEPART FROM THE FAITH and give heed to doctrine of demons", 1 Tim 4:1, are they still saved? and those who have been severed from Christ and have fallen from grace, Gal 5:4, are they still saved? I believe in the security of the believer, as long as he continues to believe, but again, what about the fellow who quits believing? YOU AND GES say that they are still saved, correct........
@soljos1190
@soljos1190 Ай бұрын
​​@@DannyLoyd So , you're clearly looking to your Perseverance till death in your hopefully good enough - but Never Knowable nor Quantifiable - behavioral performance (works) , instead of His Objective Guarantee of endless Everlasting Life to "whosoever that believes in Him " For what He actually Certifies : John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 . One drink of the Water He gives Forever quenches the thirst for eternity (John 4:1-39) . Once received = Everlasting Life. Everlasting Life has no expiration date attached , by definition . You're undeniably taking away ALL the Glory due to Him alone as the Perfect Lamb of God who took away all the sins of the world , having fully Propitiated for every single sin ever committed . Looks like you think your behavioral performance till death will DESERVE entrance into His Kingdom . Couldn't be a "less likely" scenario in the Annals of History : Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . Your doctrine is not dissimilar in the least to the Judaizers/unregenerate Scribes and Pharisees of Matthew 23 . Whereas , the Only Righteousness that "exceeds the Scribes and Pharisees" is by way of imputation , and faith alone - apart from all working for it - is the sole instrument that accords with Grace : ..."therefore it (eternal Justification before God) is by faith that it might be according to Grace that the Promise would be Certain " (Romans 4:16) . Not a syllable about Perseverance till death in Performance (works) . Working for a Free and Never Deserving Gift can Only make sense to Judaizers/unregenerate Scribes and Pharisees. Little children can easily understand and believe in Him For His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Life , instantly having irrevocable Life at that moment . Cuz He cannot lie to the little ones , unhindered by years of Self Righteous hardening . No better news , ever .
@lawrencemick1665
@lawrencemick1665 Ай бұрын
Question. What does the Lord say to those who does not live a life of holiness ? Those who have holiness, hear well done thou good and faithfulness servant. Please respond. Thank you
@GESvids
@GESvids Ай бұрын
The Parable of the Minas (Luke 19:11-27) - Bob Wilkin kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJueZMmBudGXqmg.html
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
Jesus will say to those who lived like He never gave them a command, I never knew you depart from me ye worker of iniquity.
@inChristLife
@inChristLife Ай бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_ Isn't that what Jesus indicated He would tell those who approach Him on the basis of their works? (Didn't we... in Your name?)
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@inChristLife Jesus didn't say you trusted in your works. A false teacher came up with that. Those works mentioned are works that Jesus told us to do. They obviously believed in God otherwise they wouldn't do those works but their belief was devoid of repentance making it a superficial belief. Jesus says ye who works iniquity. They lived in iniquity which is continuous unrepentant sin. They were not Jesus's sheep. In desperation they are pointing to their works as evidence they knew Him.
@inChristLife
@inChristLife Ай бұрын
​@@2Chronicles714_ you're reading a lot into that text that it doesn't say
@aliensojourner
@aliensojourner Ай бұрын
By faith alone? That is a Christian trope. The only place that phrase occurs is in the book of James, where it is preceded by the word "NOT..." Consider Paul in Romans 2: God, who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who WORKS what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God (Who has committed all judgment to the Son). For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad. Pay careful attention, then, to how you walk, not as unwise but as wise... Folly is joy to one who lacks judgment, but a man of understanding walks a straight path.
@jeremiahkirby6552
@jeremiahkirby6552 Ай бұрын
We don't go to Heaven. Revelation 21:1-3 King James Version 21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
@dwaynejohnson4662
@dwaynejohnson4662 Ай бұрын
another works righteousness which the jews boasted in by the law and christ rejected them because their righteousness wasnt by faith in christ.
@gospelgrace2693
@gospelgrace2693 Ай бұрын
Correct! Lordship Salvation is heresy!
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
Lordship Salvation as some mockingly call it means that we by the anointing of the Holy Spirit recognize Jesus for who He is and give Him the honor that He is due by surrendering to Him in obedience. He wants our total commitment. He has earned it; He is worthy of it. Ultimately, this is how our walk with Christ should begin, by humbling ourselves recognizing and confessing that we are hopeless sinners changing our minds about living in sin, instead turning to Jesus, asking Him to be Savior,and making Him Lord. The term Lord means someone to be obeyed. If He is, we as His sheep will follow our Shepherd. John 10:14,27 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. It's not adding works as proof, its a unquenchable desire for living for and pleasing Jesus that will produce good fruit. It's loving Him because He first loved us and gave himself for us. It's about self denial. Denial of self righteousness.
@gospelgrace2693
@gospelgrace2693 Ай бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_ Lordship Salvation is works for salvation which is a cursed message! When you associate anything to salvation other than accepting it as a free gift, it becomes a false message that cannot save anyone. Salvation must be received as a gift without any works of any kind! Lordship Salvation is heresy because works are included in its message!
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@@gospelgrace2693 You think self denial, and surrendering yourself to live for and serve Jesus is a cursed message, so according to you the disciples and Paul who did exactly that and even gave their very lives for their Lord Jesus were cursed. Your belief is a wicked false gospel that started in the 1970's by heretic Jack Hyles, soon other false teachers preached this flesh based salvation. Name Jesus as Savior but pretend repenting of sin and obeying Jesus is works is the end times heresy that is one of satan's greatest deceptions. By the way its the gospel of Jesus Christ not the gospel of grace. Grace is only granted by God by repentance through faith.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@gospelgrace2693 You think self denial, and surrendering yourself to live for and serve Jesus is a cursed message, so according to you the disciples and Paul who did exactly that and even gave their very lives for their Lord Jesus were cursed. Your belief is a wicked false gospel that started in the 1970's by heretic Jack Hyles, soon other false teachers preached this flesh based salvation. Name Jesus as Savior but pretend repenting of sin and obeying Jesus is works is the end times heresy that is one of satan's greatest deceptions. By the way its the gospel of Jesus Christ not the gospel of grace. Grace is only granted by God by repentance through faith.
@gospelgrace2693
@gospelgrace2693 Ай бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_ Repent in the scriptures does not mean turning from sin! It means a change of mind! Show me in the gospel of John where the word repent is used with regard to Salvation?
@HChartierKJV
@HChartierKJV Ай бұрын
The New Man/Regenerated Soul that lives inside us goes to Heaven, our Corrupted Flesh goes in the Ground. The New Man never Sins, our Flesh sins until the Resurrection when we receive our New Glorified Bodies. My Corrupted Flesh will not go to Heaven, my Saved Soul WILL. Philippians 3:21 King James Version 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
So why does John say IF we sin we are to confess it and ask for forgiveness if the new man can't sin ?
@HChartierKJV
@HChartierKJV Ай бұрын
@2Chronicles714_ Because it's wrong, Sin is Wrong. Even David confessed to Nathan the Prophet that he had sinned and David was the King. Not because we would "Lose" our Salvation, that's been already paid for by Blood of Jesus Christ.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
​@HChartierKJV You just said the new man doesn't sin. Once Saved Always Saved comes out of Calvinism it is contradicted by dozens of scriptures
@soljos1190
@soljos1190 Ай бұрын
​@@2Chronicles714_ Your entire scheme is Calvinistic to the Core . Your ""Gift faith" affirmation is at the Heart of Calvinistic Theological Determinism . Then you supplement that with the "P" of their "TULIP": Your 4 NECESSARY CO-CONDITIONS to earn/merit/be rewarded with/be paid with/DESERVE the Unmerited, Unearned , and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Life ...by successfully completing the Performance Contract till death ... So , identical to Calvinistic Theological Determinism , unless one Perseveres till death in an Unknowable level (%) of hopefully (but NEVER QUANTIFIABLE) good enough behavioral performance (works) , then one just proves that one isn't one of the arbitrarily Zapped "Elect/Chosen ones" . So , just like Calvinistic Theological Determinism , you Top Out at the purely subjective phenomena (behavioral performance/works) as your "infallible metric" of where you end up for eternity . The very definition of unbelief in Him for what He actually Certifies : John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:1-39,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 ; Acts 16:31 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 & Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . Your affirmation of Works Righteousness can NEVER Work , Biblically .
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Ай бұрын
@soljos1190 You probably don't know this, but not everyone who is not a free gracer is a Calvinist I happen to be what the disciples the apostle Paul and Mary are; Charismatic. You obviously have no clue about Calvinism except what false teachers have told you. The so-called P is one reason I'm not a Calvinist. The P means Once Saved Always Saved, the only thing that Free gracers took out of Calvinism. Of course, there are dozens of scriptures, as I have shown in the past, that completely contradict that major error in both theologies. Have you ever read the Bible even once? Or listened to it on audio? Apparently, not or you wouldn't believe the way you do.
@johnirish989
@johnirish989 Ай бұрын
Stop the video. You do know holy means to separate. You mean pure? No. What if at the moment God parts faith to you, enough to get you in, He also takes your life, so no time to live a holy life? If He has predesignated you before the disruption of the world, nothing can stop your entry.
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