That Alpha Braingeyser says Beta on the grading sticker!

"No OnE WanTs ViNtAgE MaGiC anYmOrE." More like no one can afford to buy vintage magic anymore because it was all bought up by a few guys who priced it to the sky to improve their investments on paper.

You know, Rudy... I'm not going to tell you that these will increase in value, or even hold their current value. But the truth is, you bought them because you like them. They have value to you. That's what matters.

I want Vintage Magic. Just not at those prices.

We want vintage, we just can’t justify vintage prices for cardboard we can proxy

Vintage is great, me, my friends and my printer have a blast every other weekend.

I don’t understand why MTG got rid of the classic borders. They make cards look better. The new borders look hideous. The no borders look hideous. They know this too because they make the classic border a rare chase

find a girl who looks at you like rudy looks at roller lines

Alpha Beta artwork is amazing! My beta raging river still sends tingles down my spine when i look at it.

Id want vintage magic if i could afford it, but i have to be satisfied with a 250$ collector booster every now and then when my wifes boyfriend lets me

I collect ABU and care! I also have the complete Legends, Antiquities and Arabian Nights sets. Vintage MTG all day man.

OK, I've also been playing magic since Alpha. Vintage isnt moving because WHO can afford it? For cards most likely you cannot play with your friends, in your commander deck, or basically anywhere outside of cube and legacy? Why? Who plays those formats? Like one percent of the magic community? Most of the action in magic these days is commander, and people who are under 25 weren't even born when vintage dropped and have no attachment to the old cards like I do. They want cards they recognize from things THEY know, video games, tv, movies and such. These old pieces are great, i have most of them. But like most people, time moves on the waits for nobody. The things that brought us to magic are not the things kids of today identify with. They might discover an old card because its on EDHREC and it has synergy with something they are doing, but other than that, nobody wants to shell out big money for something they cant play, that's not in foil, and that doesn't fit in a commander deck strategy. Just what it is, time has moved on. If im investing in magic, im not buying old cards, im buying newer cards that have room to grow honestly.

The vintage market is on sale. It’s an accumulation phase.

I want vintage. I just cant afford it lmao

I love how Rudy uses "Rudy" as an adjective

Incorrect, people want vintage. I for one bought a full playset of Beta proxies (proxies, not counterfeit) for fraction of a penny on the dollar. My friends, and our kids can all play what ever we want on a hobos salary. Magic 30 taught us these type of cards are acceptable.

I think the problem is the fact that they banned the power 9 in commander. Obviously if they were made legal 99 percent of the power 9 would be proxies but incentive would be present for those can buy them would be more likely to buy them

One of the problems are the decks are becoming way too expensive. I sold most of my P9, Workshops and Bazaar playsets.. two years ago and don't miss them. Finding a secure place to play was getting harder and harder. Once you are at the tournament site, you have to watch your deck like a hawk to make sure it doesn't get stolen and worry about getting mugged once you leave. Not what I want to do when I relax on the weekend... For the money I could buy an RV..

I sold all my vintage magic to buy Metazoo... Look how that turned out. YOU OWE ME RUDY!

I’ve turned my collection into a double sleeved Vintage Cube - it’s is the best way to collect and play these, and I only need one of each card. I get to share the art and history with friends and get to enjoy the new sets as a way to scout potential cube cards. Really enjoyed assembling it and hunting for missing cards, going to enjoy maintaining it. Highly recommended as a hobby.

Why does that Beckett 8.5 say Beta? It's clearly an alpha.

These are my favorite videos, please don't stop posting videos like these!

Rudy, I wanted to say thank you for such an excellent video! I am new to your channel, and this was my introductory video. There were so many points of your conversation that spoke to me, but especially about buying a house and paying it off in order to move into investing in things that truly make you happy. my family and I have been working really hard to pay off our consumer debt by the middle of next year, which will allow us to chunk large portions of capital to our mortgage. I have often spent a lot of time, wondering what I would do if I had an extra couple brand laying around and everything in this video is exactly where my thoughts have been going to, specifically as it related to magic the gathering, thank you for sharing some things that have touched at least one person. I have subscribed to the channel and look forward to more Alpha investment material!

Vintage magic is awesome. Everyone wants it, but who wants to pay thousands of dollars on cardboard.

Maybe it's not that we don't want it, it's that we can't afford it

I love these videos! I am currently acquiring Vintage magic as well. It's always smart to buy the collectibles that most people aren't focusing on. Great Video Rudy!

Vintage (the format) is awesome! but so expensive...

Rudy I believe. And I buy what I can. It’s not like what you can… But we all do our part

So I've been playing Magic since 1994 and I really do love a lot of these old out of print, highly collectible cards such as the power 9. But at the same time as far as actually playing the game goes, they are essentially meaningless. The most expensive of the cards are totally unplayable from a legality standpoint in any real format (the sole exception being Time Twister in commander) and even if you could, would you? The last time I played in a CEDH event I decided it was my last. The deck I was playing had to be worth as much as a good used car and as I thought about it during and after the event, I decided it was just nuts carrying something worth that much around with me in a backpack (plus a couple of other decks that weren't cheap either). So outside of putting these things in a frame or in a vault, I just don't see the appeal of any of it. They are now at a point where it is just ridiculous to even think about bringing these to any sort of event/tournament/whatever so that has to affect the demand.

Better to buy Stonks.

I started with Revised and there are so many cards that are worth pennies that just give me a certain feeling. So few new cards do that.

When I sell a car, I always make sure to hype up the rusting arches and faded paint as 'authentic' and 'a piece of history' 👍

I absolutely love vintage magic. I love old borders, the old artwork, the jank of the game and everything. But as a uni student, I could not possibly justify spending tens of thousands for cardboard? I have some old cards that are cool to me but aren’t expensive. My favourite card ever is timewalk, but there is no universe where I afford one lol.😢 maybe some day….

Interest is still out there. I don't have a lot of disposable income, but even I enjoy collecting RL cards. I have my favorites and my speculations that I add to my collection monthly. Like you, flipping through my binder of amazing artwork and memories makes young Gegachxis happy.

i love when rudy gets all enthusiastic about the pieces of history 🥰

I feel like (could be wrong) there is a ceiling on A/B/U, especially power 9, that as it is reached, the pool of people willing to buy and sell just disappears. That said, I love old Magic and I love buying tier 2 & 3 reserved list cards.

Why did they grade the Braingyser Beta when it’s Alpha

People are too poor to pay that much for a piece of cardboard

I love how Rudy has hundreds of expensive cards but still finds the new additions to his collection beautiful. Even if they are damaged. We need that kind of love.

Any chance you will make these as a podcast? Meaning sound only? On spotify or somewhere...

Still buying Unlimited, Four Horsemen and P3K cards for my set cubes on my channel! Beautiful pieces you got there! 🤩❤

Rudy ive been watching you since 2017ish when I was graduating highschool. Man ive learned a lot, I could spill my story here but ill save it. Thanks for making these videos, you're a big part of the reason I am where I am in lofe right now.

rudy: "young rudy is happy"

People would still want them if the prices were still $700 for a black lotus

I love vintage but past buyouts and mtg 30 were a defining point for the negative. I like proxies and feel fine playing with those. The cards I had in past will always be a nice memory.

Markets calcify, bears shit in the woods, and sometimes fish fly

My fear is the fakes…Im in the market for basically any vintage power, but the very last vintage card I bought had a recolored back edge.

Well it's coming to the time where the RL is actually hurting value, since alot of new players wants to play with the vintage cards because of the price point. I am torn on wanting/not wanting to have the RL list removed, but I think it's time for it to die, but controlled. (Which lets face it Wotc can't do that) but if they did a nice well crafted set with throwing in just like "inventions" style power 9, RL cards.. just sprinkle them in to sets.. keep it very limited, but would spike the prices of older cards as there would be hype again... I mean the high prices magic card isn't on the RL list... :)

so neat to see how prominent roller lines are even on heavily played cards! feels kind of industrial being able to able to see artifacts of the the manufacturing process over the years

Its not that people dont want them. Its that theyre too expensive for the common man.

I feel like it will continue to stagnate or even drop with the economy slowing down and unemployment looming

The price wouldn't be so high if nobody wanted it. Literally people buy it and drive the price up. If people had more money, the price would be higher

That was beautiful to watch and listen to bro.

I'm still picking up vintage in 2024 and love it! I'm very diversified with plenty of sealed product, assets from different collectibles, and traditional investments of course... but something about my vintage cards makes me happy when I look at them. It's special if it's your thing.

Wow Rudy not mentioning Mr P. or Metazoo for almost 18 minutes is a new record! Congrats again. Love the content, keep up the great work 😂

When the older players like myself leave the game, the nostalgia for these cards leaves the game. I personally find these cards exciting as they were a part of my childhood. If new Commander players don't have that same nostalgia, that has to lower the value because it lowers the demand.

Absolutely incredible, thank you for sharing rudy

I'm tempted to just take screenshots of Rudy, print them out sleeve them up and collect binders full of them. If I sent one in to be graded it better come back as a 11

My Favorite kind of videos :) Thanks Rudster!

You are the only MTG content I watch anymore. Everything is about the new flavor of the month and there is so much being churned out it doesn't even remotely resemble the game I fell in love with. Thanks for preserving the history of Magic. I hope that you see one hell of a return on investment in years to come.

Beautiful cards. Thanks for sharing!

I really needed to see this video. Thanks, Rudy!

Hay Rude !I am sending you ❤ thank you for content 🇨🇦🙏

Please go on with such videos. The vintage community loves them and there are more people out there than you may think!

I have wanted to own a Black Lotus for over 20 years. The cost of the card went up too much over time for me to buy one. It makes me sad.

I'm new to actually playing this year, mainly EDH Commander at locals. I asked a private australia facebook mtg trading and sell group im in (like 50k members in australia, very active) that I was interested in buying White border lands from Chronicles or 4th and 5th edition and i wanted to pay cash / make a deal. An older gentleman messaged me literally 10 minutes later upset and said "i thought no one would ever want them, I threw like 2000+ of them away 3 days ago." Just very sad stuff. In australia, its harder to find vintage / old stuff pre 2000 in general.

Maybe it's the end of magic. Hasbro only sees $$$

"No one wants Vintage Magic anymore." Community correction " Dan Boch and Rudy keep buying all the power 9 and taking them out of circulation permanently so there's no more ability to play Vintage Magic anymore."

Rudy I haven’t really been involved in magic or watching your videos in awhile but just listening to this I just want to tell you that your are 100% right please keep on making videos.

It is not the desire, it is the price. I would collect a play set or more of all that stuff if it were affordable. Since it isn't, I just buy the high quality proxies and play with that instead. Fake Mox Jet still taps for black at the kitchen table.

True. I admit that I'm hate-buying old Magic. I don't want it, but I keep buying it anyway for the lols. Someone please help me.

I always want to see more old cards! If I had more capital to deploy in fun stuff I would gladly sink it into beautiful cards like these!

Rudy. Greetings from Spain. Ilike this videos,the most. Vintage Magic better than new one

You love them…us older crowd loves them too…it’s why my Urza’s block items will never leave my control. I never knew what I was buying back in 1998 but I’m glad I did.

I love the older cards as a new player. I’m big on history & holding reverence to what came before. I know one day I’ll have a few nice pieces of my own. Maybe one from you!

Beautiful cards. I hope to own a power 9 piece one day.

So people would rather drop 500 on a collector box that will drop in the first week than pick up a used RL staple?

those roller lines on the Mox Sapphire gave Rudy a stiffy 😂 😂

Hi Rudy, just saying, me and some friends are still purchasing vintage stuff, it still gives us chills to get another dual in our collection !!!

I subscribe for the vintage magic videos

Love vintage. Reminds me of playing in High School. So much fun to rip packs back in the day also... starter decks for $6!!! I miss those days

With the price of everything going through the roof, who has the money to spend on collectibles anymore.

RUDY!!!! Old School Magic is the best!! New Magic bites you know who CEO.

But if you're not going to sell, what good's the value?

RUDY! Pls never stop making vids about vintage Magic! We believe! We believe!

I preferred playing magic. You know, without having to put a mortgage on my house.

Card board burns very well in nuclear fire. But I don't play the magic card games, so... I just like listening to Rudy.

Stockholm in a bottle OS crew Cares - keep ’em Coming ❤️

I'm with you Rudy, they are beautiful and they make me happy and I would buy all of the ones I could afford to buy.

You are not alone Rudy

I love old magic card Rudy. I run the oldschool UL sol rings in all my commander decks because the art is just so cool. I love these old cards because they will never make them again - one of a kind!

You said it - interest is cyclical. It will take an exploitable mechanic or everyone making money and needing a flex.

Problème générationnel...

Wow, some really nice cards there Rudy. I think when the current new influx of players mature, and once markets shift, the value on these older cards will increase again.

I still love my Vintage cards! I'd love to acquire more, but diversification is important, and I can't pay for hospital bills in cardboard. I just can't justify dropping $3000 on a Mox, though I'd tempted to sell my own at that price.

Here is why MAYBE, just maybe, played cards are going to be worth more than mint ones when it comes to Vintage. Just spitballing here. The patina of age, wear and tear, is your "G" that the card you are holding is authentic, as mimicking a pack-mint vintage card is much easier than mimicking a played vintage card. If I am right then you will eventually see the selling price and demand for LP-MP copies of vintage cards go up while the market for NM-M 9.0+ graded stuff go down. If that happens and the played cards become valuable enough then the counterfeiters will learn how to fake the patina of age well enough to fool people, and at that point the market for the played vintage cards would vanish. Either way I don't see any future in vintage Magic cards. Over a long enough timeline and as technology continues to progress the fakes will just get more and more indistinguishable from the real thing.....and at what point is the fake no longer a fake? If it's literally identical down to the molecule can it be called fake anymore? Are we going to use Quantum Physics to determine the difference to determine which is "authentic"? At some point everyone's sentimentality bows out to logic when it comes to this much money. One would hope anyways. The democratizing effect of technology is continuing to grow and with 3D printers we have literal matter assemblers in our homes now. Our sentimental overvaluation of the original copy of a pattern of matter in our world will die to this democratizing effect of technological progress, and maybe that is a good thing.

Actually Rudy the cycle is moving into small caps currently due to cooling inflation news and investors are anticipating loosening of interest rates soon.

I need to do some research but the colors on some of those duals just seems off.

Amazing! But ehi! I want vintage Magic! Staying the ciurse with you Rudy! Strong and hard😂

I’d die for a time walk, but my life isn’t worth the price it is to buy it 🤷🏻‍♂️