Glad you had exposure to a rich heritage.

Thanks. You are a great person and I love your content.@@BenLlywelyn

​@@Alex-hz2xg I see an adoption of people for the word "sigur" or other frases instead of "da" when possible, this and the fact that in 6th year of university you start to surround yourself with people that talk differently, more polite. There are also opinions that "da" would come from the late Latin language, from the word "ita": ita>ida>da. (K.A.Massey).

@@Alex-hz2xg You also use .....ora doi , care nu are sens gramatical...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"strecuratoare", "sita" and "setca" are three different things :). also, "strecuratoare" and "sita" are definitely not "textbook" words.

Well, for English speakers it's hard to adopt the classical pronunciation : )

Enlezii sint niste caraghiosi. Acum ei dau si lectii de istorie a limbii romane. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@ionbrad6753 e greu? Păi, să stea acasă dacă doar atit le vine greu. Spun ai nostri prostii destule pe acest subiect, asa ca nu mai avem nevoie si de prostiile englezilor.

@@gheorgheenache7789 1) Unde vezi tu aici englezi? 2) dacă au studiat temeinic subiectul - da, pot ajunge și englezi / francezi / chinezi - să dea lecții despre istoria oricărei limbi.

@@ionbrad6753 Am zis io că văd englezi?? Tipul de aici părea englez. Pe urmă am aflat că el e galez. Degeaba studiezi dacă nu ai minte! Te umpli de gunoi doar.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!

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Bătălia lingvistică pentru adevărata origine a limbii române

@@cernea1mihai Bătălia cu nebunii.🤣🤣🤣

Interesting link with Sardinian.

@@BenLlywelyn "Ie" might be a borrowing from the once large Transylvanian Saxon community. In Hungarian, we say 'igen' for yes, but 'ja' is often used informally, a German word obviously. Many also say Muter and Fater for Mom and Dad.

The romanian-sardinian link is quite fat. There are very similar words in both languages that can only be found in sardinian and romanian like 'limba' 'apa/aba' 'pisica/pisicu' 'cap' 'beciu/beci' etc. This words seems to be pre-roman, indo-european probably.

I've never heard in Transylvania "ie" (pronounced "yeah") for "yes". But we sometimes say "e" pronounced as the French "è" (e-grave) to express an affirmation.

@@razvanbarascu4007 1. Latin is an Indo-European language; 2. there is a similar phonetical in some contexts evolution but not in all words, evolution from Latin, not from another language 3. Some Catalan words evolved the same as words from Romanian and have the same spelling, (e.g. cap, ou, bou, foc)but they came from Latin, too 4. Standard Italian has a lot of elements in common with Romanian unlike Sardinian, for instance ce, ci, ge, gi, che, chi, ghe, ghi, where there was no such palatalization. beciu (pronounced bechiu) means old = vecchio in Italian; 5. beci in Romanian measn cave and is from Slavic

Very reasonable comment.

You can look at the map of the Roman empire and you will see that the empire stretched all the way to the Crimea with Moldova. Free Dacians! Latin speakers!

I'm sure Romanian has words for nice things too.

palavra din turca, flecari from fleac, from german (cauta pe Wiktionary in engleza)

@@lunadeargint540 , ​ dar de ce sa luam din turca si germana cand eram vorbitori de limba latina si cand semnificatia din limba latina este aceasi? Crezi ca turcii nu au luat cuvinte latinesti din Constantinopol sau germanii pe vremea Holly-Roman Carolingian Empire de la italieni? Nu mai zic ca si ei puteau sa ia de la latini . Wiki nu este cea mai demna sursa de informare.

@@dorneanudoru turcii au luat cuvinte din latina, prin venetiana sau alte surse; cascaval de exemplu vine din turca, care l-a luta din venetiana. Wiktionary in engleza iti recomand este bun ca e bazat pe lucrari stiintifice; e o sursa mult mai buna de informare decat radio-șanț.

@@lunadeargint540, pai wiki chiar este un fel de radio sant din care multi se adapa fara sa dea macar un search pe google sa caute cuvintele similare din limba latina si prefera sa creada ca sunt turcesti, pentru ca romanii cei latinii trebuiau sa ia de la turci cuvinte care seamana cu cele latine. Cred ca bunul simt si cel putin google ne poate spune mai multe decat radio-sant-wiki. Nu cred ca este locul potrivit de balacareala romaneasca fara rost. Sper ca nu trebuie sa vobesc turceste ca sa ma fac inteles asa cum crezi ca o faceau taranii romani dupa cum crezi tu!

Bun venit!

@@BenLlywelyn bun găsit! 😁👍

The census showed 3%. In general, Gypsies have a high percentage of South Asian (Indian) DNA. According to some statistics made by the companies that do DNA tests, there are 2.7% Indian DNA carriers here, which is in line with many other countries in Europe. It is interesting that in United Kingdom 4.8% have Indian DNA.

@@popacristian2056 They have a INdoeuropean language Dromari is very related whith the spoken Sanskrit.

​@@ver_idemwhere can one learn gypsy language (-s) or at least more information and analysis about them ?

We have the word TORNEIRA in portuguese. Which is a derivation I’m sure from Torna! Torneira is the TAP over the KITCHEN where the comes leaves or POURS out. 😀

You are wrong. Look at this evidence. All languages developed individually from one another. From LaDin and Romeika. Latin was also created from a Pre-Latin languages. There is a language in Dolomites called LaDin but this is also not the original LaDin. Yet. The numbers in Dolomites LaDin are almost identical with Romanian not with Italian. While Ladin people and Romanians never met. Therefore they came from Asia with a IndoEuropean language of the Dacians that is the nowadays Romanian. There were are romani people including the Gypsies and they called their languages also romani like. Aromanian, Istroromanians and other Vlachs have developed individually away from Romanian. They have the same Romanian words, nothing like Italian. This is an argument against Latinisation of Greek for Aromanians and of Slavic for Istroromanians. The only explanation is that there were tribes immigration from Asia of related people speaking the same language that was already a romani language and that spread through the mountains of Thracia and Dacia, developing individually. Rome occupied Dacia only for 150 years and only 1/4 of the territory. How come all Romania, Moldova, Basarabia and south of UKRAINE speak Romanian? Ottoman empire occupation was 500 years in Romania, yet nobody speaks Turkish unless they are Turks. The same about the 300 years of Germanic occupation. Nobody speaks Hungarian or German unless they are colonists. Your theory is wrong. Pleases read The Serpent's Trail of the lost tribes of Israel. Read also about the Jewish roots of the Serbes. Thracians were Sarmatians and both Sarmatians and Dacians are Semitic. The lost tribes of Israel. Etruscans are Semitic too. They left Egypt by boat to escape slavery their. They are part of the Lost tribes of Israel as well. Whole Europe is SEMITIC. Now see the rest of the information. Aromanian is like archaic Romanian. The tribe of Dan scattered all through Asia Minor and Europe and formed Romance languages. Aromanian and Romanian, as well as all the Romance languages including Latin, were not formed from Latin but from ancient-culture LaDin, a Semitic language that formed also the LaDin in the Dolomites. LaDin the mother of European language including LaTin. Ladin is a Semitic language of the tribe of Dan. The semitic Ladin language, is the basis of Romanian language It could be that the original Ladin is not from Latin but the other way around. Romanians have almost exactly the same numerals and they are formed far away from the Dolomites. Romanian comes from Ladin, Dacian, not Latin. Wow 😮😮😮😮 Why Romanian Isn't Like Other Languages - because it is the closest to Ladin Origin of Romanic languages in Ladin, not in Latin. Amazing. Ladin and Ladino is the Semitic language, mother of all European languages. It is not that Spanish influenced this language. It is the other way around. Latin America is in fact Ladino America 🇺🇸. The continent where Ladinos or Jews emigrated. I always thought it has something to do with romance languages from Europe, but it is even prior to Americo Vespucci. Wow. It all makes sense. It comes full circle. Incredible. Ladino, romance language spoken in Israel 🇮🇱 coming from Europe, but basen on ancient-culture LaDin language. The language of the tribe of Dan. We found the connection with the language spoken by the tribe of Dan, the Dacian, back to Israel. Incredible. Ladin is the language Ladino are the people. In Spain they developed another version. Ladino. A Semitic language. Iberia is the country of the Hebreuws. Latin America, could be Ladino America. 70% Jewish genes in Latin America. Either Ashkenazi or of the lost tribes of Israel. A huge revelation for today. Zal-Moxis Dacia Dan Look for the Serpent's Trail If you consider the other Romanian like languages such as Aromanian, istroromanian and others, that developed away from Dacia, you cannot say that the Dacian language was Latinised. And you cannot say that Aromanian is Latinised Greek. Because the way the latin words are spoken into these languages is close to Romanian and not Latin. How can a Latinised Greek develop 2000 km away from Dacia in the exact way as the Latinised Dacian language? No chance. It is more like Dacian language was a language that gave birth to Latin. Important to know!!!! Dacians and Sarmatians are THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. Sarmatians are Samaritans. Dacians are the Dan's. The lost tribe of Dan. They colonized first what became Thracia and Dacia and move forward up north when the Romans invaded Dacia and colonized Scandinavia known as Province of Dacia and formed also countries like Olan-da, Dan-mark. The people living in Olanda/Holland/The Netherlands, are called Dutch (pronounced Daci), also Dacians of the tribe of Dan. Dacians of Dacia were of the same tribe with Samson. That is why they had uncut beards 🧔🏽 and hair. Dan-mark was called Dacia in the 4th century. The tribe of Dan, colonized Iberia, France and Wallonia, as well as Irland and Scotland. Zal-Moxis was Chief Moses, the God of the Dacians. Why? Because Moses brought Israel out of Egypt. The Tribe of Dan was in Exile as well and got Moses worship 🛐 to be their protector. The Serpent with wolf 🐺 head on a pole, was the war flag of both Dacians and Sarmatians and it was inspired from the Old Testament book of Numbers 21.4-9. The serpent on the pole of Moeses. Moesia comes from Moses. Is the country of Moses people. Moesel is the river of Moses. Dan-ube is the river of Dan. Samarina is a colony of the Sarmatian, Samaritans. They were also Dacians Many rivers in Europe have the name based on Dan derivative in the first place. Saxons is derived from (I)saac sons. The sons of Isaac. Europe is therefore Semitic. România 🇷🇴 was occupied by many other powers over the centuries. The Ottoman Empire was there for 500 years yet Romanias don't speak Turkish. The Austr-Hungarian Empire was there for 300 years. Yet only the colonized villages in specific regions where Hungarians and Germans emigrated 700 years ago, speak Hungarian and German and are the emigrants. No Românian people ever spoke another language. The Roman occupation was only 150 years at maximum. It is no way the Dacian peasants were Latinised. Therefore Latin was not the language that formed Romanian language nor the other Romance languages from Iberic Peninsula, France, Wallonia, Italy. It is most likely that all these languages developed separately from a Semitic language that became Dacian language that got variations according to the region the segmented parts of the Tribe of Dan emigrated to. It is extraordinary and fascinating at the same time. Look for the article. The Serpent's Trail of the lost tribes of Israel. The tribe of Dan. Btw. The Gypsies are Semitic too. They are from the lost tribes of Simeon. Sardinia was also colonized by the Tribe of Dan. Romanian language and Sardinian language are similar. This is another hint.

And minz (manz) where is coming from?

"manzo" which is horse meat in Italian...@@d.o.g256

@@d.o.g256 Mânz is comming from caballus + equus/equua. 😁

@@marcelprodan9132 right! :-))))

@@marcelprodan9132 No Minz in modern times is transgender,woke and so on

The Neacsu letter was written in the language that we call today Romanian . It is a language fundamentally derived from Latin of course having exposure to many other neighboring languages : Slavonic, Greek, Turkish, while in Transylvania German and Hungarian.

Can you give the exact quote in Latin or in what work? It seems like it's made up.

@@lunadeargint540 Nu am decat informatii de pe aici : ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimpoi si luceafarul.net/povestea-cimpoiului-si-a-muzicii-lui-ancestrale

Yes, the presence of extremely few substrate vocabulary of balkanic origin only strengthens the argument that Romanians are Romans.

Morris dancers are quite silly. I would need to read up on this.

@@BenLlywelyn Any chance to compare the Morris dances whith Welsh Galic traditions?Its looking as a ritual of the Galic Goddes Epona,in the Calushari are also equestrial symbols used.

Look up the Romanian calusari dance. It is a beautiful dance, but in old times it was full of pagan beliefs, as it was considered to have healing properties, and the dancers had strict behaviour to observe during the period of the year the dance was danced. Makes me think of shamanic rites.

​@@mihaelac2472I saw basically the same dance in southern Italy.

La fel si in Muntenia *întoarnă* se foloseste des, in special la tara in locul lui întoarce. Si in Moldova deasemeni.

Multusmec pentru ca

si este foarte logic, pentru ca educatia in transilvania (confoirm izvoarelor istorice) a fost introdusa de ''Scoala Ardeleneasca'' -> catolici ce propovaduiau limba latina si crestinismul in detrimentul limbii de bastina si nu puteau accepta ca oamenii sa stie ca a existat un popor pagan candva aici pentru ca acest lucru contravine crestinismului (Stim foarte bine cat de agresiv era catolicismul pe acea vreme cand femei erau arse pe rug pentru blasfemii sau vrajitorii doar pentru ca nu erau pe placul anumitor cetateni influenti). Crestinarea fortata si violenta a venit la pachet cu limba latina.

Yep. "Toarce" originally meant "twist". While "Toarna" originally meant "turn". But the meanings have changed in standard Romanian due to semantic drift. There are still some regional dialects that preserves the original meaning.

I think it makes more sense to pour whine. Toarnă, toarnă frate.

Romanian certainly has had a varied and pluralistic influence on it in a way which is unique and enriching. Thank you.

Turkish is not a neighbouring language, and Romanian was already formed when the Turks arrived. Agglomerative is really not an appropriate term. There are enclitic articles, like Scandinavian languages. Constructions with Dativ are inherited from Latin.

Appreciated. Multumesc ins.

That is the truth,Dacians spoke an older language ,before latin

What do you think about the name of Danmark, dutch , or deuch.Where these names come from? The Europe had a much older culture,from Tracians and Dacians. Traian ,what name is this ? Traian declared he spoke to Decebal like cousins and he was proud of his Tracian roots. Check what i say. The first king of Normandie was Rollo, a trac, not a viking. Spartacus was a trac warier . Many kings of Rome had been Dacs.

Thank you.

If I dig deep enough, you may recognize that, in fact, you are an elephant. I swear!

Thank you

Lmao 🤣. Seriously? This guy Ben is a joke …😂

Good point...

Dacă găsiți pe undeva revista lui Gabriel Gheorghe numită " Getica" şi publicată in anii ' 90 veți găsi informații cvasinecunoscute despre acest subiect.

Italian languagfe is ONLY the OFFICIAL LANGUAGE in Italy. The Italians are speaking in their homes dialects. There are 2000 different dialects currently spoken in Italy.

I must add that Romanians are so intelligent that 2/3 of them learned it even if their territory was never under Roman rule (only about 1/3 of Dacia was actually colonized, for no more than 170 years) and even if in that part of the world, Greek was more comune and used as a lingua franca in those times, in an era when books and schools where only available to very few . And this in contrast with other territories ruled by the Romans for hundreds of years, where no latin language is spoken today.... Still Romanians are so stupid as in almost 1000 years of Hungarian control of Transylvania (which is about 1/3 of Dacia) the romanized population didn't learned hungarian, or even got much of that language into Romanian, even if there was constant pressure from the Hungarian authorities in this direction, in an era when schools and books started to become an everyday thing...

@@doizece6002 Foarte frumos spus, mulțumesc !

My dad is a veteran.

@@BenLlywelyn Romanian is from Dacian language, no Latin. We have basic worlds similar to Albanian.

@@elenabibescu1848 Our language, the Romanian language, comes from Vulgar Latin, after the Romans conquered the Dacians and settled Dacia with Romans.

oh, so dacopathy does exist... 🙂 Hi, there!@@elenabibescu1848

Mostly veterans settled in Dacia, and they weren't even Romans they were from different parts of the empire since the Roman army was made of different ethnic groups (in fact so many that Latin as a language became a minority only to be used in the administrative field and to give official orders). That's why the Latin component of Romanian isn't born from the 165 years of domination but way before.

Kind indeed. Thanks.

I would guess Hoia Forest, but I am not sure - much of the footage is whatever I can find with CC copyright free sources.

@@BenLlywelyn I'm not sure there's a lake there but thanks anyway for the reply 👍

Note: Words, "Romanian" and "Aromanian" comes form the same word, latin "Romanus" and means the same thing "romanian". Most of "aromanians" use in their speech letter "a" front of words that starts with consonants. This is where comes " a - romanian".

I wonder how can anyone prove that cognate words come from this and that, when basically we talk about related IE languages, originated in the same cultures, proven to be sharing historical, linguistic and genetic background.

there is a bar in Bucharest called "Torna, fratre!" meaning "turn the bottle upside down and fill my glass, brother!"

@@carron979 lol

There are phonetic laws specific to each language and the shape of the words often shows their route from one population to another, from one language to another. There are specialists (linguists) who study these evolutions of words. Genetics has nothing to do with the evolution of words.@@Sofia-0001

Many of the differences in European Language families are due to variations in the pre-Indo-European populations that influenced them

he's brainwashing you, don't know why, but he does...

Marius, te minte, Ben nu e englez... adios marios...

Oh yes,the rest of romanians are educated by Johannes.

I agree many Romanians would be descendants of the Dacians.

No they are not descendants of Dacians. Look up their genetic tests compared to ancient civilizations.

@@ihatetiktok475 xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

@@ihatetiktok475 :))))))))))

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When I was trying to explain this to people, that is just Kremlins propaganda to divide us and depart us from Europe and to wash away our identity I've been called naive and sheep... I also studied the Faculty of Letters at the Valahia University of Targoviste and did a lot of Etimology and related curriculum. They had no related studies or any Uni at all, but I was the one in the wrong🤦 Later on Russia invaded Ukraine and some understood the russian danger and it's propaganda, but some of them remained there dancing on kremlins music even harder😐

yes indeed, dacopathy is a sign of inferiority complex of uneducated people, unable to understand science

Intoarna in Moldavian idiom too

@@nestingherit7012 *Moldavian dialect, but yes, you are right

There is a bar-pub in Bucharest called "Torna fratre!" (Toarna frate!)

A few, yes.

Yea, there was a Vlach migration, not suddenly or abruptly, but slowly over time with shepherds into Carpathia. And we must remember Goths were there.

Multumesc pentru 'de + in'.

@@BenLlywelyn cu placere

Same thing for ”întoarce-te”. The leading ”in” is glued there with the meaning ”turn-in-(direction)”.

„dacopaths” know better than you. You crazy latinopaths!!

@@ionbrad6753 In latin I think is retorna

If I answered your questions then I did my job. Thank you.

There was gold in Dacia, hence why the Romans wanted to civilize the area 😂

Latin didn't skip over areas. This is what survived after centuries of migration from the east. Mainly thanks to geography. Romania and the Balkans were more isolated and had many environments where the locals could thrive but migrating populations could or would not - mountains, forests, swamps. In general, Migrating peoples had plains animals like horses, and cattle. The people used to living in the mountains had mainly sheep, goats, bees and those in forests had pigs. These are not very good migratory animals over long distances. So niches were easily created. And most of the times, even though there were indeed raids and open conflicts, the migrating populations collaborated with the local population, eventually ending up being assimilated. Sedentarism is a good vector of stability and survivorship over longer periods of time. This is the best explanation I know of why the Romanian language survived and continued to develop as a direct continuation of a Daco/Traco-Roman language north and south of the Danube for so many centuries.

You didn't understand it dear, it seems that Latin derives from old Latin in Dacia, so Latin comes from Dacia

All the surrounding regions that were part of the empire spoke Latin. It's just that they were affected by the Slavic migration, which differed from most of the other migrations coming from the East due to the large number of those who migrated. The Slavs passed through the territories of today's Romania, they have language influence, but mostly they crossed the Danube to the south and southwest. South of the Danube, the Romanized Thracian element survived as a language and civilization until after the year 1000, when it began to be more strongly assimilated by the Slavic culture. Similarly, the Hungarian migration changed the language in the area where they settled. The other migrations, which passed through the territories of today's Romania, did not assume a significant population compared to the locals, because they left no traces in the DNA of the locals, neither here nor around.

@@georgearden7075 That’s absurd. Dacian and Latin have nothing to do with each other, dear. Dacian is an extinct paleo-Balkan languages, while Latin gave birth to Romanian among other Romance languages.

È sempre bello conoscere i collegamenti.

​@@BenLlywelynSemper bonvm est. You should do a video about the connection between proto-celtic and proto-latin.😊

@@jboss1073 I didn't say there was a connection. I was just asking Ben to make a video on the topic.

@@jboss1073 And how many PIE roots has Latin the written language for thousands of years?Wtf is going here,which Germano celtic branch are you comparing whith German and Latin?

I'll do my best for you! Something on Basarab before long, I hope. Thank you for the support.

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I would not describe it.

dude, parabola is a neologism brought into the Romanian language in the 19th century. frate in Romanian has both the meaning in Italian and more

In Romania, we also have "pălăvrăgi" meaning speaking a lot and without much sense, empty words / to talk a lot. eg: Ce tot pălăvrăgesti acolo

Yes, but a palavragi is also new word, dwrivative from the neologism palavra. Stefan cel Mare wouldn't know it

@@stevesteve8529 the only foreign words brought and adopted in the 19th century were from French, in the late 20th and beginning 21st centuries are from English. Pălăvrăgi sounds more Slavic than Latin whether it's Ancient or Medieval.

​@@stevesteve8529 Wikipedia mentions the origin of "palavragi" as being turkish. Now if they took it from latins or vice versa that's another story. So chances are Stefan cel Mare knew about it.

The Turkish one sounds interesting!

Yeah, it's like arguing with a religious fundamentalist. Facts, logic and reason can't overcome beliefs stemming from emotions. Dacopaths are a lost cause.

All Balkanics are the same . The most idiots are the Serbs and the Greeks .But Romanians push hard to beat them .

so that explains the never ending banther between turks and persians!

@@BenLlywelyn Look up "Sun Language Theory". It emerged in the nationalistic fervour of the 1930s in Turkey, and Ataturk (who, at that point, was becoming a bit high on his own success) indeed loved the idea, but it was quickly dropped after his death.

It may be Lake Como, but I may be wrong.

Bucate 😉and many other neologisme but ...........he knows romanian goagle .

😊

Dacian word.

There's also "mil"( mud) in Romanian

Bun venit!

The Romanian Language was indeed reformed, but it is indeed still the same language, though a lot changed.

@@BenLlywelyn If that is the same, watch if an aroman is talking to a romanian, what can they understand... The aroman lenguage does not consist that thousends of imported words.. I have some friends from Transilvania, they speak perfect romanian, they hardly undertand, what a wlach or aromanim macedoroman,,,- they have many names - speak....

Another Horthyst troll.👎

@@l.e.i.4111 your sweet mother, my dear! Science,,, do you know what is that?

Fair comment.

They for sure had writings, especially the visigoths. But I think when they become normal Christians from Arianism christian, the new Christians destroyed all the books since they contained heresy.

No.

@@BenLlywelyn apus-răsărit-miazănoapte-miazăzi?

Thank you.

"Romanian is the evolution of Vulgar Latin via Dacian" looool. Next you're gonna tell us that Dacians colonized Mars.

You are a such a joke mate. Who were the Dacians then? Founder's of the world civilizations who came from outer space?😂

Romanian coming from Vulgar Latin has been clearly demonstrated. It isn't good for Romanian nationalism to build an identity based on the lie that Romanian comes from Dacian. While there are similar "movements" in other countries which try to reinvent their own history (like the French thinking of themselves as Gauls), that isn't a good thing either.

Romanian is a lovely language.

Romanians are Latin by definition and then something else. But as you astutely highlighted: Dacia is to Romania what Gaul is to France.

You could make thar argument about anywhere between Romania and Egypt too, to burst their bubble.

Yeah, I argued against them many times and proved them wrong. They can't accept the fact. Those lies comes from the channel _Daniel Roxin,_ of whom is a dacopath himself and makes only bias claims

Then give Transilvania to Hungarians, if we are not Geto/ Dacians.

@@nestingherit7012 We are Romanians, our ancestors were the Roman's who conquered Transylvania before Hungarian's were even in Europe

@@nestingherit7012 How Hungarians and Romanians settle their histories and build a friendship is up to those 2.

Thank you for watching.

Thank you.

Hungarian migrated through Slavic lands, it does not make Hungarian a Slavic Language.

Ben, you can not compare the number of Hungarian migrators with the number of Indo - Europeans. Hungarians came with their own language just like the Indo Europeans did. Being a tremendous larger population than the Hungarians, their impact on European continent was decisive regarding the language. But another difference is that Indo Europeans did not all leave the places where they went because large populations decided to remain on those areas while others carried on moving westward, where again populations remained there while other split and move on up to Atlantic ocean. Remember! Herodotus (484- 425 BC) wrote that the Thracian folks were even then the second to the Indians regarding the numbers. So it was the largest population in Europe even back then. Hungarians however, they went from one place to another and did not make it as far as the Indo - Europeans did. Speaking of Hungarians and because you said something about Romanian writing too....well, the Hungarians even in XIII century called the so called Cyrillic letters, Literae Blachorum or Romanian letters and even in XVIII and XIX centuries were called Olah Betuk - Litere Românești - Romanian letters. So much for Slavic alphabet theory....They got it from the Romanians. You see Ben, just like the Hippocrates oath, they say is from the Greeks but in fact is being stolen from the Getae-Thracian medics ( Those guys who believed in Zamolxes, you know? ) which were Hippocrates teachers in medicine and I am not saying that but Plato en Socrates did but if you learn from wikipedia like many others do, you will keep coming up with bent theories like that. @@BenLlywelyn

Everything you wrote is Dacomanic propaganda. You even misquoted Pliny the Elder, Ovid, Cassius Dio in attempt to sound more credible. But any person who has studied these sources immediately notices that you are twisting their words and completely fabricating the facts. Romanian does indeed come from Latin and has nothing to do with Dacian or any pre-Roman language. Next you are going to argue that English comes from Romanian because Romanian borrowed English words like "miting" , "soft" and "instagramabil". Ridiculous.

Do your research first and than come back. Until than you are just another Romanian history denier and with people like you, Romania has no future@@daciaromana2396

@@daciaromana2396 ,, nothing to do with Dacian or any pre-Roman language'' good dealer you found . Its obvious you have nothing but propaganda.. the hungayrians are the dacians , right? and they were of course cathoholics :))

I'm sure that Romanian's many influences have left with a rich girth of synonyms to express very similar ideas in the language with precision and shaded of meaning.

you can translate lespede with stone, it has a specific meaning.

Buna!

I think a neologism imported in the XIX century.

tunică este imprumut din franceza, nu e mostenit din latina

Soldiers spread death not languages. Trade and other types of interactions spread languages. Where the soldiers did not reach, the merchants reached. Let's not forget that Latin was the lingua franca. Would you have wanted the Romans to learn the dacian language so they could get along with the Dacians?

@@valentinovidiucornea4525 Really? Explain me how the roman merchants reached the teritory of the free dacians (that was for the romans the enemy teritory) and mooved freely across the land to make business with ALL of them? And how the roman merchants reached in person the houses of the dacians and convinced the dacian women to speak that aristocratic latin with their kids ?? That language that we know today as ''latin'' was oficial in the roman administration but on the streets of Rome allready they spoke nobody knows how many languages spoken all over the empire....and again...how could they spread latin in the conquered teritorys as long as the majority of the ''roman'' population including soldiers and merchants barely understood and used latin in the daily life??

Trade. Culture. Religion. Roads. All spead languages.

Your math sucks!!! Banat, Oltenia, Transylvania, Dobrogea, Muntenia, south Bessarabia is 14% of Dacia? That's a fat lie from the very begining!

Dacia aia exista doar in capul tau bolnav, bolovane

Appreciated.

Somehow?

Mujdei, Romania's favorite sauce (it's garlic-based) comes from Latin (must de ai, all Latin words per Wiktionary).

Foarte bine descris!!! omul acesta care a făcut acest video din păcate este rătăcit foarte rătăcit pentru că duhul românului și spiritul acest popor strigă și lăcrimează după adevărul strămoșilor noștri care de fapt nu au fost romanii ci 0:09 geto-dacii!!!

Trăiești pe o altă planetă. Poate îție dor de pământ😂

​@@supermarioxs1 Voi sunteți retardați să mor eu de nu😂😂😂

Geto-Dacii au fost urmașii civilizației Cucuteni care datează la 8 mii de ani din ziua de azi! Noi suntem speciali pentru toată lumea și va veni timpul când adevărul va ieși la suprafață. Una e clar că romanii antici știau că dacii sunt strămoșii lor. Nu se fac statui din granit de metri pentru niște barbari. Noi suntem speciali și avem o misiune specială pentru omenire. Ca argument nu există nici un popor pe tera care locuiește pe același pământ de peste 8 mii de ani păstrându-și limba, obiceiurile și teritoriile aproape intacte. Autorul ca să ne înțeleagă pe noi trebuie să înțeleagă mai întâi sensul cuvintelor dor, doină, vatră de la început.

@@andreiusatii923 🦧🦧🦧🦧

Objectively false because Gaulish and Latin were not only similar, but shared a mutual level of intelligibility.

Completely wrong and dated, the R1b haplogroup in Italy, especially in the North, proves the opposite and I want to remind you that in Italy there were the Celts and it's not as if after being conquered by the Romans they went elsewhere or we were all exterminated by them , no lol we are still here where we were more than 2000 years ago... (I’m R1b)

Being between far off mountains between Kyiv, Costantinople and Rome would have made the middle Danube seem like the furthest wilderness imagineable for much of Europe.

Vlachs in the mid Balkans moved north, as well as their being Latins in Constanța and Oltena. The Vlachs took the fertile plain of Wallachia which has the best agricultural land for crops and their population was able to expand and accrue political and socio-economic power over other groups.

Goths ( particularly visigoths) are not germanic but dacian. Goth historian Iordanes says that. And they spoke an older type of Latin. These are the visigoths that sacked Rome and Athens twice and brought the dark ages. Do they dress like dacians? 😂 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f8eqq619rc_XqYk.htmlsi=NceoAsSeizq3Kvhf

@@BenLlywelyn Where are the goths in your explanation?

@@BenLlywelyn Hey sir, that's Roesler's theory. This theory is a big historical fake elaborated for political reasons. You disappointed me, I thought you were a serious man!!! The Roman historian Florus wrote "The Dacians live bound to the mountains." The ancestors of the Romanians always took shelter there, and then the Romanians when the migratory tribes invaded. These tribes came from the steppes of Asia, unfamiliar with the mountains and were afraid to enter them. That is why the first capitals of Wallachia and Moldavia were in the mountains and moved to the plains when the states gained power.

@@BenLlywelyn There is no evidence for this claim. The fertile plains with agriculture have always had a denser population and could extend their territories.

Excelent și bun.

every time somebody uses ,,ism''s , do not immediately believe him

Nothing wrong with brothers sharing wine.

Inițial verbul A TURNA se referea la recipientul în care era lichidul de vărsat. Toarnă cana cu vin. Toarnă găleata cu apa.

@@arcadie8155 Absolut Numai din Latină in Romăna sa schimbat înțelesul măcar partial fie ca vprbim de a turna/tornare sau că votbim de torquere /toarce /a intorce

Toarnă, toarnă frate că nu torni de la mă-ta.

Inseamna a intoarce vasul. Vinul sau raul curg, nu toarna.

Verbum

@@BenLlywelyn right. But linguists explain that Romanian vorba cannot be traced to Latin verbum due to phonetic difficulties.Thus the etymology of vorba is unknown.

A very rich language with its diverse roots.

The 'Relatinization' of the Romanian language is not what you think it is, Romanian was already very much Latin even before that point. It was just a bunch of loan words entering Romanian (which was already a Romance language) from French which did push up the % of Latin words of the lexical volume but I challenge you to go read texts before the relatinization such as the 'Scrisoarea lui Neacsu' and see how many Slavic vs Latin words you can find.

I read a theory once that the Romanian da could also come from latin "ita" which was a way of saying yes popular in the Balkans.

Da , ia numara tu cuvintele de origine slavica din scrisoarea lui Neacsu . Eu le-am numarat si sunt aproape jumatate - fara formulele de introducere si incheiere care sunt in limba bulgara. Te tii cu dintii de toate aberatiile . Vezi ca in romana , in ziua de azi sunt mult peste 30% cuvinte provenite din franceza , dintre care 22% sunt cuvinte folosite in vorbirea curenta . Ia vezi tu ce cuvinte au inlocuit cele 22% provenite din franceza ! Iti spun eu ca tu ai idei fixe - pe cele provenite din slava . @@akuleet6029

Da is not only Slavic because it exists in Italy. It's obvious that we have it from Bulgaria, the oldest country with the oldest city and culture of Europe. Sofia is 6000 years old. Old bulgarians are the ancestors of Greeks and Romanians are the ancestors of Roman's.

"Japanese people breath through their nose and sometimes their mouths, Japanese people originate from Romania"

@@UlpianHeritor Pathetic that you have to invoke such nonsense about Japanese or aliens, to combat something true . All the Latin languages originate in south east Romania on the Danube. We have the best place on the Danube and it's obvious the Latin world started here. We also speak the cleanest, most ancient Latin like language which makes even the extinct old Latin look modern. Check the new romanian etimological dictionary made by Mihai Vinereanu and you will be enlightens. Also, I'm not hating Roman's at all. My grandfather name is Traian. I have no reason for supporting that Romanian is older than Latin, other than the truth. I'm not pushed like Ben or Dan Alexe by politics( communists) into creating fantasy stories.

​@@UlpianHeritor Leave us alone 'would be Italian'

OMG Rumansh in Switzerland comes also from the Dacians?

People living in the mountain areas came to similar conclusions about basic intermediate communication tools.

They likely arose independently of one another. I would guess carnyx, but It is impossible to say.

That's because it's a well-known fact that Dacia was a retirement home for many Roman soldiers,

@@BozgorSlayer yes, but most of the roman soldiers weren't from Rome, they were from all over the world. We have seen all around the world colonized countries and countries with big minority populations that were not culturally changed 100%. The romans in those regions were not treated very nice by the neighbouring tribes after Aurelian's retreat. The retreat in itself was triggered by the raids and battles fought against the local "free" population of dacians.

@@SuperClau07 Most the soldiers who retired in Dacia were Southern Italians and other Romans from the poorer parts of Italy. There's a reason Romanian and Sicilian are sister languages.

Wrong on all counts. - we had Romans for 165 years. But the same "historians" that have a problem with romanization of Dacia in 165 years have no problems for Gallia and Hispania being romanized for a bit more than 100 years. Double standard at it's finest. - that 14% of Dacia is a blatant lie. It's 14% of Dacia under Burebista, at it's larger extent, in 1st century BCE. By the time of Decebal (2nd century AD), Dacia was only a fraction of that Dacia. Get your measures straight. - we had here Turks... had we? No, we never had here Turks. Since the days of late 14th century when Turks showed on the Danube till late 19th century, Turks were never here. Except as marauding armies. Even the taxes due to Ottomans were collected by local rulers, not by Turks. Turks never settled north of Danube. There is never mentioned a single mosque in Valahia or Moldavia for 500 years. - we had Hungarians in Transylvania. But unlike Romans, Hungarians were never keen to assimilate locals untill late 19th century. They had other concerns that make locals into Hungarians. - no, Istro-Romanian, Megleno-Romanian and Macedonian dialects are NOT "very similar" to Romanian. They are so different that they are not mutually intelligible. And the best proof they evolved differently is that they used a different Latin word that Romanian for the same notion. (luna / mesu - month, tânar / giune - young man, douazeci / gingiti - twenty). THere are even more differences in grammar. - there was no "Mediterranean Dacia" in Roman Empire. It was only the province "Dacia Mediterranea" (Serdica/Sofia). It was the result of splitting Dacia (formed by Aurelian in 271) in "Dacia Ripensis" (Dacia on the river border) and "Dacia Mediterranea" (Dacia inland). - "why do Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian languages share more similarities between them than each one of them with Latin "? Because they evolved from a different Latin that we know. They all evolved from VULGAR Latin, not Classical Latin. But we have little to no information of Vulgar Latin, as it was not written. Those who spoke Vulgar Latin had other concerns that write. They had to make a living. And those who had the possibilities to write did not bother with the language of the unwashed plebs around them.

Maybe the Dacians from unoccupied territories had great passion for foreign languages and did their homework in school ;)

Complete and utter nonsense.

Nope. Romanian comes from Vulgar Latin. What you wrote is a fabrication.

No doubt Dacian has influenced Romanian, but Romanian is at its core a Latin based Romance language in every way.

​@@BenLlywelynEven the old school lingvists that tryed hard to make us look more Latin, found only 20%Latin words in our dictionary. Now we have The Romanian etimological dictionary just released which proves 72% of the Romanian words are dacian, 7% Latin, 5% slav, 3,5%Greek, 0.6 germanic, 0.5 hungarian.

Prost de bubui !

Khazar?

"De aici".? You can't be serious lol. These are signs of apophenia. Ben knows more about the foundations of Romanian than you and that is a shame because you are supposedly Romanian. Although clearly a very uneducated Romanian.

''Daci'' comes from '"daos'' and ''daoi'' , ''wolf people'', not ''D'aci'' .You watched too much Daniel Roxin and forgot to care about facts.

@@BenLlywelyn Go fish , Im done with you , I was listening to you , you were interesting until you jumped on Khazar boat of the khazar history dillusion . Dan Alexe,George Hodorogea (small hint ,tiny ) and others

@@cristiangaban960 If you say so , but from what I remember they called us Getae not Daoi ,but your the experts here . And Roxin didn't invent anything is just what it is ,nothing elese, and by the way he is not a guru in dacian history , there are people there more educated in the mater . 😉 "The Dahae, also known as the Daae, Dahas or Dahaeans (Old Persian: 𐎭𐏃𐎠, romanized: Dahā; Ancient Greek: Δαοι, romanized: Daoi; Δααι, Daai; Δαι, Dai; Δασαι, Dasai; Latin: Dahae; Chinese: 大益; pinyin: Dàyì;[1] Persian: داه‍ان Dāhān) were an ancient Eastern Iranian nomadic tribal confederation, who inhabited the steppes of Central Asia" Wait is that DAOI ? How is your friend Dan Alexe or George Hodorogea ? Say hy to them from me .

I will have to look into that.

​@@BenLlywelynIn romanian bucurie means joi and esti is to be. So what he says is that Bucuresti means to be joyfully or to be happy. Same in romanian language but this is a name not 2 words.

Celtic languages are also sister languages to the Italic

Sorry to burst your bubble. but Romanian did in fact come from Latin. Quit the daco nonsense and come back to reality. Thanks.

@@UlpianHeritor When did Rome rule Moldavia all the way to the Dniester River? Then, why did they forget their mother tongue “dacian-getae” and adopted the eastern version of the vulgar latin as their own language which then survived centuries and actually thousand plus years of Russian and Ottoman occupation with the Austrian occupation of Bucovina / Buchenland in the northernmost area of Moldova? Moldova wasn’t even under the Constantinople rule to say that they adopted the language of Byzantium which was not latin but greek, especially after the great schism. I’m not a “dacopath” since allot of that stuff they talk about is nothing but a bunch of ‘Bravo-Sierra’, very whacky stuff, but darn it boys and girls, to claim that an entire nation which never ever lived under Roman occupation just decided some two thousand yers ago to willfully forget their mother tongue and adopt latin it’s just as whacky as the dacopathy crap !

@@UlpianHeritor lol 😆 😂 noob go read more

@@hereintranzit they never did ..rome only conquered wallachia ..@ulpian is Arabic latin tooo? Romans were in Egypt for far more years than us ..and Egyptian has nothing but nothing to do with Italian ..how can you pathetically believe after 169 years under roman rule the entire length of the country forgot their own roots religion and language to simply incorporate Latin..its absurd look at Egypt and any other country take England..nothing in English is latin ..or Egypt after 600 years of being conquered in the entire length they still speak Arabic 🙄 🤔 and somehow us only being conquered 33% of our length we forgot everything lmaoo 😂 noobs

Proximity between Latin and Celtic languages within Indo-European made Latin assimilation of Celtic languages across the West much easier. And I think something similar happened with Dacian.

Indeed so.

Romanian's Slavic, Hungarian and Turkish blending with several variations of Latin and a gentle, faint Dacian underlayer, make it beautiful.

@@BenLlywelyn I respect your appreciation, but from a lucrative standpoint, re-Latinizing the language will work wonders in the long run.

@@BenLlywelyn Romanian core lands were never occupied by turks. The connection to the Black Sea was a migration hot spot and does have a turkish heritage to this day, but the region itself is small in population in the grand scheme. I myself have met ethnic turks from Dobrugea, great people.

@@cezarstefanseghjucan "re-Latinizeing the language" is an incorrect thing to say, because how would you do that? what does it really mean? It's a nonsense, Romanian adopted the same "international" words needed in the XIX c. to describe new realities in society, science, culture, etc, the same words that were adopted by all the languages, Germanic or Slavic. The language of culture "happened" to be Latin and French. So were the Germanic or Slavic languages, latinised for that? Only words that no longer reflected reality disappeared or become obsolete, and not only of Slavic or Turkish origin, but unfortunately words inherited from Latin, too. So there was no such thing. The constant re-Latinization of the languages happened actually in (standard)Western Romance, because they were early codified and developed under the direct influence of Latin and the grammarians would conscientiously preserve or reintroduce grammatical structures from Latin etc. The Latin loans in these languages began during Middle Ages. So, because Romanian had no contact with Latin it can be considered much more conservative than the Western standard Romance. The Italian local languages for instance developed more naturally as Romanian did, while standard Italian was a dialect of an elite that introduces words from classical latin all the time, that's the only reason Italian is "closer" to Latin, because it is a half-artificial language that only was spoken about 10%-20% of the population when Italy was unified.

​@@BenLlywelynall of this linguistic diversity and different borrowings during different times lead to interesting outcomes - like the words carte (book), hartă (map), and hârtie (paper) coming from the same root through Latin, Greek, and South Slavic dialects, respectively. But I agree with the comment above, the Slavic-derived words in Romanian simply sound unpleasant (is it the cluster of consonants? Is it the association with communism?) Whereas the Latin-derived ones sound more natural and pleasant to pronounce. It's a very difficult thing to explain as a non linguist. Turkish borrowings also sound natural (and ironic in many cases), whereas the Hungarian ones sound totally alien.

Yes, I think shared Indo-European did spur assimilation through cognates with Latin absorbing Dacian.

Dacia was not the only Roman province to retain a Latin based language in the east. There are plenty of pockets and with speakers of various eastern Romance dialects (fewer now than before, as nation states formed their borders, and rural populations have begun moving to the cities).

I would say reforms and nationalist restructuring are different from birth.

I like the Romanian expressions. Multumesc pentru câ

Thank you very much.