That’s my professor!

@@fusionare hh

Funny you say that, i think the same.

a friend of mine has a black belt in karate and BJJ and judo.

Facts

Indeed, i used to always lose in the past but now i learned out of my faults and now i always win and go forward.

well said brother

Mr Wilson i agree that the karate man is brave enough to step in there but he definitely didn't do his "homework" . he didn't even spend some time learning how to sprawl or at least protect his arm ..he went in there with pure karate and the results were as expected ....

I agree, very well said. One of the greatest principles taught in BJJ is humility and that every "tap out" is a chance to learn and grow.

Mark Wilson Defeat was painfull ??? I think that his broken arm was worse . Cause from what i could possibly see the armbar destroyed some bone bigtime !!!

the karate guy is probably thinking, damn i need to start realizing not to fight so aggressively

The karate guy should be saying now let's fight my style. Mma is great for street fighting. But in sport no style is better than the other cause u can't use other styles. Lol. Seems the video was a ground works video so yea the ground worker will win

+WilliamDavid ImpacFit Training I agree

+WilliamDavid ImpacFit Training OMG dude. It was no rules. The karate could have used whatever he wanted. His style was completely negated. Deal with it.

+Khaos Ryders no rules then he should have bit the guy. So there are rules.

que razon tienes, y la mayoria no habra echo un deporte de contacto en su vida y van de super entendidos del tema y no saben ni que reglas hay en cada arte marcial

Like probably 8 wasted years training shit

@@ivanivan5511 I’m guessing it helps with cardio at least

@@geekbro6265 Exactly just like dancing

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@@ivanivan5511 BJJ is a hard counter to karate

Cómo te fue? :0

you still training?

@@EthanWarner Iol I was about to ask the same thing

All the bjj guys reading this wishing they started at 14…

@@nickf1724 started and 6 now I’m 12

Sim, hoje ele se sairia melhor. Na época o BJJ era efeito aurpresa pra todos. Hoje dentro desse aspecto da luta sem regra se o Karateca nao aouber o que fazer diante disso, está errado. Mas essa humildade dele o raoaz do BJJ nâo teria. Pode acreditar no que estou falando.

+Peter Kazavis lol exactly I'm not defending karate but he was just dumb asf

He was going for a flying knee and didn't expect the BJJ practitioner to close the distance so quickly. You have to remember this is back near the year 2000 when stand up artists were still unsure what a grappler even was. They had zero take down defense. No offence, but you have no idea what I could do to you if you got anywhere close to me and you most likely have seen what grapplers can do. Many people say who would do that period?? Well when you have no ground attacks or defense, your only hope is to knock someone out very quickly right at the beginning in a devastating fashion. To do this, you need to hit hard and big... and it almost never happens against someone who is trained. This type of attack the karateka did probably would work on someone who isn't trained in BJJ to close the distance, but it isn't going to work most times against a BJJ practitioner. He was going for a big shot, most likely the karateka had taken out others with this move who he had sparred before and was going for it. The problem is, what happens in real fights and sparring... are two different things. This is why this seems unrealistic... But you need to realize the same thing or worse, would have happened to you.

+Robert C. Christian 1. The karate guy clearly knew what bjj and grappling was in 2000 it was very popular due to Royce Gracie bringing it mainstream 2. He wasn't going for a flying knee he ran up and started punching with his hands down. This is y most striking arts have died bcuz they're useless against a good grappler

Showtime_Kick123 said _"The karate guy clearly knew what bjj and grappling was in 2000"_ Prove this. Do you even know what his name is? He may have heard of it, but I am a 4 stripe purple belt in BJJ and he didn't know even the basics of BJJ. You can clearly see this by how he moves. So prove to me he clearly knows what BJJ is Many people who fought in Pride in 2000 still didn't have a ground game so I don't see how you can make this assumption.

+Robert C. Christian u said that stand up artists were unsure what a grappler was. And I'm telling u this guy knew what bjj was I never said he practiced it... this argument is really dumb I'm just pointing out the fact that this guy really thought karate wud work n he ran after this guy with his hands down right into a takedown then u took it in this whole different direction

Cuál es la historia?

@@nestorarteaga784 me refiero a más allá de lo que se podía ver en el vídeo antiguo, que era sólo el trozo de la pelea. La historia es la que está en la descripción del vídeo.

Mikki Mouse yea its fuckin useless. but. you have experience in another discipline. get into a BJJ gym

Karate is great. Look GSP.

Dragon Machida, etc.

Mikki Mouse I

Mikki Mouse you didn't waste it bro there is good in anything just don't waste your time with something that is trying to get you to score points over causing damage and being affective in an actual fight. The karate guy went in no holds bar because in points karate it goes in quick burst till someone lands then they reset and go again if you watch early Mochida fights he struggled with it after he would connect he would either hop back and hesitate or get happy feet and lose all technique. Hell Joe Rogan did points taekwondo and he has some of the hardest kicks I've seen

kind of look staged from that point. I am not saying that it was, but his hands wasn't up or nothing.

looks like he tried to land a straight punch just before clinch contact but went too high

I'm guessing it was a Kyokushin fighter. They fight with their hands down, because the rules don't allow punching in the face. Looked like he was maybe going for a straight right karate punch from the hip, but was late.

welcome to the world of takedowns.

No mate, he wasn't Kuyokushin.

smthone or you have both...

That's what I said.... read my comment

ummm there is no striking in bjj.

NinjaWarriorDude I never said there was. Read my comment

Who told you that? Because it's 100% not true. Now, the striking is not a good or technical as in boxing, Muay Thai, or TKD, but there is some striking and striking defense. That's like saying there's no takedowns in BJJ.

Yo llevo a penas 6 meses entrenando jiu jitsu y desde el primer día me atrapó.

It reminds me of the Cm punk fight

MikeDunn im saying like this was just some fake demonstration to promote JJ

Fake? Did you see how far his arm bent back on that armbar? If this is fake, he's gumby.

Well he's obviously not experienced or knowledgeable in ground fighting. Until this point, he probably hadn't really seen it, so he didn't know how to approach the fight. You got to remember that BJJ practice all the time on how to take someone down and close the distance. Stand up fighters generally don't train specifically to counter take downs and clinches. If they did, then they would probably do better.

They all think bjj is weak until it's used on them

Not not necessary man depends of the level of the striker and his tactics . I have seen a muay thai fighter against a BJJ Black belt and the muay thai fighter won.

Porque cuando golpeas soltas el aire, en el striking es asi

soldierviejo I think people around should have told him he had to tap out, that was the problem. The bjj guy didnt know he had done it.

Saw Vi The BJJ guy knows exactly what he was doing, believe me whenever I armbar someone in sparring I know there is a point where I can break their arm if I want to.

soldierviejo i dont think it was broke but he definitely brought it close to the breaking point so of course its going to hurt like a SOB

John Dersion It was broken, the people in the video screamed at him to break his arm and after a few seconds of the yelling he pulled it back, broke it, then got up.

Manuel Eduardo hmm didnt look like it was broke but i could be wrong

Then, third guy joins the fight, kicks BJJ master in the head and leaves scene with Karate mate... Game over.

El jiu jitsu es japonés, ellos solo lo modificaron

Gracie's can thank judo.

Then again, you can't grapple if the guy manages to get a roundhouse in. The thing with these strikes is many of them are one hit KO's - the Karate guy only needs one good kick to win. If he'd dodged the BJJer and then kicked, he could've won. What really happened here is the BJJer took the Karate-er completely by surprise and then it was done. Perhaps if they'd done a second fight, where the Karate guy would expect him to try to trip him, then it would be a much more even match.

+Vousie V that's what people have always said. Watch the old Gracie challenges and they would submit the guy 3 or four times in a row to leave no doubt in their mind. No "ifs" or "could'ves"

that's complete bullshit, he can just hit and elbow the back of the bjj guys head. He just be nice and don't want to kill the bjj guy

MasterofPlay7 lol I'm sure I can slam sweep or tap most people before I tap to elbows to the back of the head. if some one is that close and on the ground elbow and punches are not as effective any more you loos the power from you legs and hips to throw them right

Dan Fuentes lmao well of course that's case you are down already, but you can just down elbow when the guy intend to do a take down. I almost killed the guy in a street fight when he tried to perform a take down

John Dersion that arm is fucked. I think it was broken, he never raised it again for the rest of the video.

John Dersion I'm pretty sure his elbow was horribly dislocated

Snap city bro , even the spectators called for it , like if it was an underground fighting match , since it was no rules and he fucking snapped his arm .

He did get his arm broken ! Ouchhhhh

I winced watching that.

True. I can't believe that guy really studied Karate. I daresay even the much-maligned Sage Northcutt would have fared better.

innertubez said _"I can't believe that guy really studied Karate. I daresay even the much-maligned Sage Northcutt would have fared better."_ Northcutt has a purple belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and studies at Gracie/Barra. Of course he would do better. This fight happened near the year 2000 when many fighters were still one dimensional. Northcutt is far superior in stand up and on the ground then both of these guys and he only has a purple belt in BJJ. The levels of BJJ and Karate have excelled a lot farther than this as this was almost 20 years ago.

you didn't see karate cause the bjj guy took him down before he could do a flying side kick, or a spinning tiger fist :)

@@Dylan-wx7ru karate is largely ineffective against more practical styles.

@@MrDeano-eu9rg I know. I was making fun of karate...

Si Cristóbal hubiera hecho Jiu Jitsu en esa época la diferencia se podría ver fácilmente.

@@psspspotyfasse1129 Habría sabido escapar contraatacando al mismo tiempo, pero el bueno de Cristóbal y su técnica, pelean de pie. Lo mismo les pasó a muchos que pelearon contra Royce Gracie en los torneos del UFC.

@@pedroiranzo3883 el jiu jitsu es muy efectico cuando pelea en combate 1 vs 1 porque te llevan al suelo con una enorme facilidad. Hoy en día práctico kickboxing y jiu jitsu brasileño y te digo que en jiu jitsu me comi 400 sumisiones, jajaja. Pero me especializo en el area de pie y de grappling.

@@psspspotyfasse1129 Poder controlar a alguien para poder esposarlo sin usar golpes es bueno para todo el mundo, pero el jiu-jitsu no vale para nada en la calle, cuándo son 3 vs 1 ....

@@pedroiranzo3883 es cierto, en el caso de la calle es útil para utilizarlo cuando un policía detiene a un ladrón o cuando tenga que reducir a alguien o un amigo ebrio que te quiera pegar ya que si le haces una llave en el brazo estando de pie como en el aikido se te dificulta más. También es muy útil porque no dejas al adversario que tenga tiempo de atacar. Hay un video circulando em Internet en donde un practicante de BJJ logra reducir a dos practicante del mismo mediante llaves en un gym. Asimismo el jiu jitsu no tiene mucha efectividad si son mas de dos. Aclaro que no soy un experto en BJJ, estoy formando mis primeras bases aunque siempre me consideré una persona que pueda aprender rápido y adaptarme a cualquier arte marcial o deporte de combate.

And standup.. they took his ass down cause he was standing squared as a square

And zero stand skills. Just stood there with his arms dangling at his side and ran head on like he was the BJJ practitioner SMH

I am in doubt that this guy was even a black belt. Looked more like a white belt than anything.

It's probably not useless though, he probably didn't know what BJJ was, but the bjj guy probably knew how other martial arts work, which is a clear advantage. He just needs some "takedown defense".

It is just people fighting on the floor. It is reality and he did not prepare

I believe the look on his face is probablty PAIN. His right arm is messed up bad, notice he doesn't move it again.

hey, nice avatar :)

Dylan Evans I know your comment is super old Dylan Evans but it's true he does look incredibly defeated and he's probably thinking I have to go back home and explain how my arm got broken

yea he will be thinking about this one for a while

Not much if you compare them with the Yoshioka clan

BJJ isn't any more practical when someone pulls a gun

@@josephkowalczyk7459 ok man but really is that what u really need? Talking about combat sports here

@@MrDeano-eu9rg they are different sports is comparing apples and oranges. If you're talking no rules you're not talking about a sport you're talking about a street confrontation in which case someone can easily pull a gun on you

@@josephkowalczyk7459 mate, they're both combat sports. A gun is a complete non point.

@@MrDeano-eu9rg football and baseball are both ball sports but you cant objectively compare them.

TheSeer101 😂 so true.

years of training a getting a fourth degree in bjj went to nothing in a single punch:D:D kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7-Wm7CXmbuwkac.html

Well if he practised some takedown defence and grappling he could stay longer and try to defend the takedown

But he has also trained on the ground so he knows how to fight in the range he wants to be in.

Edrei Garcia jajajaja...+1

Son macarras cualquiera, no es de extrañarse eso 😁

Edrei Garcia una cerveza por este comentario jaja

si no hubiera reglas te quedabas sin ojos, sin orejas, dedos partidos, testículos inservibles, tetraplejias, paraplejiad, muertes por rotura de cuello...etc..cualquier persona con dos deos de luces entiende q por pocas reglas q pueda tener una competición, siempre debe haber unas mínimas que cumplir q garanticen mas o menos la salud del oponente.

me hicieron el día jajajajaja eso no vale!!!

William Quintanilla to someone that trains, the second he passed his guard and took side control you could see it was over

Es que son como niños, que no saben lo que están viendo, en su mente solo está un análisis violento, en los dos luchadores hay técnica y experiencia, y cada uno salo que es capaz de hacer al otro, no están en guerra, ni se quieren matar, es una prueba de ellos mismos, no hay reglas, pero a la vez si, y son las reglas éticas y morales de cada uno como persona y artista marcial

El Dojo fue cerrado cuando los de arriba vieron esto, imagínate cómo era el maestro para que tuviera estas ideas a pesar de saber que no debía hacerlo. Por parte de las personas están vetadas de cualquier Dojo o entrenamiento de la asociación

@@serafin6897 wow. sabes si el brazo estaba partido? parecia de momento que si pero el estaba como si nada

@@ramostca0498 si hay reglas porque no pudo empujarle los ojos como iba a hacer... si hubiese sido mas real o sea algo de vida o muerte... el karateka quizas podría haber hundido los ojos del adversario, como intento hacer, y ahi habria acabado todo...

​@@ztonz no tengo mucha idea pero parece ser que si, y bueno respecto a lo que dices de vida o muerte es verdad que en esta vertiente de karate nos enfocamos mucho en golpes letales a puntos como la nuez y tal, nunca sabremos si el resultado hubiera sido diferente si el chico hubiera podido aplicar todas sus tecnicas pero es que al final es mejor asi, no creo que haga falta demostrar si es efectivo un golpe a la sien o no, o si el es mas fuerte o si es menos fuerte, al final aprendemos para dar un golpe en una situacion de riesgo extremo y cualquier otra cosa pues no tiene mucho sentido me parece a mi

Victorino Ibarra Hernandez Cuales técnicas? Picarle los ojos al contrario por desesperación? De todas maneras no le funcionó pues el prácticamente de BJJ se zafó inmediatamente.

Kelly Espinosa Curiel picar los ojos es una tecnica porsupuesto para eso se entrenan los dedos en la maquiwara o como se escriba .si le hubiera roto la cornea no hace esa llave eso te lo aseguro se termina la pelea ahi mismo ...cuando no hay reglas no es tan rapido el bjj ahora el verdadero jiujitsu ese si tiene golpes y no es deportivo.no le funciono la tecnica ? Nó la hiva a aplicar y dijeron no vale pero si seguia incistiendo crees que te puedes safar de eso o de dedos en la garganta? Creo que te peleaste poco en tu vida.saludos

666 infinito Se quitó inmediatamente el ataque el de jiujitsu, de nada le sirvió ni los ahorcamientos.

Kelly Espinosa Curiel no amigo el primero si pero al decir que nada de eso valia no siguio insistiendo .ningun arte es mejor que la otra pero sin reglas es muy diferente.esto fue una pelea de mma cualquiera.en las feloni fight un tipo le arranco el cachete al otro cuando estaban en el suelo.

666 infinito Nada que ver, el karateca estaba indefenso por su incapacidad para pelear en el suelo, y el intento de picarle los ojos solo demuestra su desesperación, casi como si hubiese querido morderle, deja de inventar excusas y admite que el karate es un arte limitado ante un ataque de lucha en el suelo, hay montones de vídeos de los gracies que así lo demuestran, no solo éste.

ComputerJA he didn't tap. He was stubborn. You tap before it breaks or dislocates not after. Simple

I agree. However, being 2001, I doubt the guy knew that he had to tap or when to tap, if that makes any sense. People who don't do grappling don't know when they are necessarily in trouble until it already hurts a lot. At the heat of the moment he thought he could take it, but I think he should have tapped instead of yelled at 1:34.

Dislocated? Are you crazy?! The guy would have been screaming his ass of or crying histericaly.

You can see that he does not move hes arm at all after the fight, it just hangs dead there. When the adrenaline is running you might not actually feel it instantly, even if you snap a bone. Just search "bjj bone breaks" for example. Most do not visibly react to it before they get a clear view of the damage done. In one video the guy who's bone snaps just gets up fast, yells for someone to bring him pain killers and for someone to drive him into ER asap. "mma leg break" is another good search. Guy throws a low kick, opponent checks it breaking the leg of the kicker. The one who threw the kick doesn't seem to notice before he actually stands on it again and the shin just folds in half.

Cala boca

GERARDJITSU Apellido totalmente de acuerdo

Le llego a romper el brazo?

Mendoza Sebastian al parecer no

LUCAS GOMEZ exacto, Lucas

GERARDJITSU Apellido la pelea está mal desde el inicio: no se puede pelear un tipo con un estilo en el que solo se usan patadas y golpes de puño contra otro que utiliza lances y llaves

then tell this this lyoto machida bitch

and bjj is useless in street fighting

maiza yahia,bro,bjj is proven to be the most effective martial art in self defense,carlos gracie fought everyone that was willing to fight him in a no rules match,and was never defeated. So bro,quit spreading false information,because bjj is the best thing you could use in a street fight.

Jorge Garcia ... Bjj is great but limited when dealing with multiple opponents.

MindBat,it isn't meant for fighting multiple opponents

Alfredo Stefano they say "broken his arm"

Alfredo Stefano , there was probably not much thinking going on in his head, just pure emotion, anger, pain, disappointment. He was probably mad because the other guy fought in a way that he felt was cheating, he had never, ever faced this form of fighting. Maybe he felt that he could beat him in a second round. Most fighters in these videos think that and go for 2 or 3 other rounds. Maybe he just wanted to act tough to save some pride because he felt humilliated, cheated, disappointed. He felt all his years of hard work were a complete waste of time and effort. Again, it's not his fault, it's pure emotion, he was cheated into thinking that he would be able to defeat someone in a real fight, but he was swiftly shut down and destroyed, mostly emotionally.

Can you imaging bjj got mad?

I know right, it was screaming please arm bar me! Lol!

isso ai, aspira

Night Rider ... That's the point. The karate guy was stuck in one pattern of attack. If the bjj guy doesn't get you one way, he'll get in another. Did you notice the karate guy didn't move his left arm after the fight? It was disabled. Happens all the time. The karate guy will likely take bjj lessons now.

Rigoberto, not every black belt knows how to apprach every fight. This may have been the first time the karateka ever faced a bjj opponent. He's likely used to only fighting other karatekas in a "staged" setting.

Night Rider lol exactly do u see how the bjj guy just walked in any legit karate guy would of front kicked him into hell.

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they should try with kyokushin may be

not at all. its just a different style he got caught by. karate has lots of value.

lots of value if you like breaking thin wooden boards and screaming lol

+B that's not true. Seems like you're watching too many movies. You get fighters like machida, channels like "karate culture" and "practical kata bunkai" and many more

this looks like a real fight

el capo that’s the point of the comment

wouldn't work against a ninja with wolverine claws. just saying

right because getting attacked by multiple people happens often, lol.. and to be honest, being a black belt in karate doesnt help you in a multiple attacker scenario much anyway. you think what this bjj practitioner did to take down this guy was in anyway special or nuanced? any half athletic person in the street ready to throw down can instinctively do a double leg take down or accomplish some rubbish trip to bring the fight to the ground. this paired with every wanna be hard mofo in the nation's affinity to watch UFC and that dude will know to mount you and drop elbows. hey, wheres that karate or krav maga again? in a multiple attacker scenario, a bjj guy would turn tail with insane cardio but IF the fight somehow went to the ground, he/she would know easily how to get back up and fight off people trying to keep you grounded. bet you didnt think about that. bjj folks are limb and body manipulators. id arm drag fools into each other and meta game the shit out of some random ass wanna be thugs. karate is bad to the bone but bjj is the foundation to all martial arts.

ya lol but most people who train in any martial art know how to defend a double leg take down this karate guy didnt know what he was doing

you cant generalize a martial art by one fight you know that right

but would you crash tackle someone with a double leg take down on concrete? be honest. most fighting sport are on a special type of ground. in some bjj take downs, your arm will hit the ground, and break, before the other guy hits the ground. bjj is great but needs modification for the street, if you deny this fact, you're blind. double leg taking down where you run at the guy, while on concrete = your knee is fucked. even i figured that in ten seconds watching MMA, and i don't train shit. id only try to tackle someone on some nice soft grass. spin kicks suffer from the same problem. in sport fighting you are bare foot, on special ground, in real life, you are wearing shoes, and maybe the surface has too much grip, or maybe its super slippery. therefore i wouldn't use a spinning hook kick in a street fight, even though i can do one. BJJ is a sport. i'm not trashing any martial art, especially bjj which is extremely useful, but MMA = a sport, with rules, on special soft ground, etc etc. people aren't stupid for pointing out things like this. on a different kind of ground where the bjj guy can't just spear tackle into a take down, the karate guy might KO him with kicks cause he cant get close enough.

If you want to guarantee your loss, kick me in the balls.

If you want to guarantee your loss, kick me in the balls. Not challenging you specifically.

Yeah, all the Krav Maga people espouse how groin strikes and eye gouges change the fight, but I've been in fights where people went for the groin or raked the eyes, and you know what? It didn't stop me, it enraged me to fight harder. Adrenaline is a powerful thing so mechanical leverage is better to rely on than hopes that a strike to the groin or eyes will end a fight.

Chirs Frediani eye gouging is very efective but it has to be done in a dominant posotion not like it was shown here.

takes less time to choke you out of get on your back where you can't reach. Untrained, unskilled, uninformed.

Karate is a a great striking martial art. But against BJJ it's nullified. Learn both and you will be nasty.

@@jakesanders269 Karate isn’t that great. Boxing much better for striking

@@punksnotdead4766 Tell that to GSP. Kick to the head and your out like a light.

@@jakesanders269 GSP can do the lot. Your average Karate black belt would be easily dominated by a BJJ blue belt or someone who’s boxed for a year. I did Shotokan to brown belt and it’s laughable. There are some great black belts in Shotokan but they’re few and far between.

@@punksnotdead4766 So I guess you just ignored my previous post. I said BJJ would completely nullify a striker including Karate. But Karate is a legit striking Marital Art. Boxing is great but MMA allows kicks soooooo karate is pretty good to know. Just ask George St-Pierre, Lyoto Machida, and Chuck Liddell all former UFC world champions.

No conocía ese dato

Me pregunto qué habría pasado en una situación real, es decir, algo en la calle, algo de vida o muerte... el karateca quizás podría haber hundido los ojos del adversario, como intentó hacer, y ahí habría acabado todo...

I know, I love it too 😁

Daniel Ruiz depende de la situación si es en la calle si es sólo contra 1 o son más de 2 ..es efectivo pero arriesgado si tienes k lincharte 2 o 3

Pero vamos!! Un 100% mas. El karate es muy bonito, pero es eso, como la natación... Te sirve para entrenar y estar en forma no para pegarte

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