Ok

That nerdstalgic guy was right all along about low class entertainment

I get getting weirded out or not really liking showa, but showa is still entertaining

The person behind Nerdstalgic sold off his channel to a media company and it's just a low effort content farm now. I think all he does is read the scripts. Edit: I don't think he even does the reading anymore, there's a new voice reading out the scripts. I think the original person behind the channel is long gone.

I’d say number two is need more Destoroyah, but other than that, nothing

gigan chad supremacy

also needs more megalon

Need More titanosaur

Needs more Battra

They can’t, ppl forget Godzilla is famous because of his era of monster stomping and not because of Gojira. It’s worse than fans saying Space Godzilla is his strongest opponent lmao

​​​@@Rey_del_Kenpowell who is his strongest opponent? Is it Ghidorah, is it Destoroyah or is it someone else?

@@acousticks526well his strongest is Destroyah or Keizer I believe. But the one that has done the most damage to him is probably Mechagodzilla.

​@@Rey_del_Kenpospacegoji is one of the strongest opponents, key word one of

@@train_go_boom2065 he isn’t Destroyah is Destroyah can take hits from his red thermal atomic breath while most monsters actually get beat up when Godzilla brings that out. That happened in Space Godzilla (if you ever decide to pay attention) But if we want to include the Netflix anime, that ghidorah is the strongest opponent. But Mecha, muto prime, and Destroyah counter Godzilla whereas Space Godzilla does not. Take down his tower and he isn’t a problem at all.

We all settle our infighting and arguments to defend our beloved kaiju franchise. I love this community.

@@mrgodzillaraptors8632 amen

Preach!

We unite That’s why I love this community

​@mrgodzillaraptors8632 I'm sure the 'infighting' consists of us arguing which big monster is going to be in the next movie

Don’t forget the misinformation

Most of them 100% haven't watched the 1954 film, they just say 1954 and minus one are the only good ones because no one talks shit about 1954 so it MUST be objectively good.

Guarantee they didn't watch it, they just skimmed through it and parroted what everyone is saying lmao

Clearly people like that can't understand different tones of different times

Exactly. And it also applies to the James Bond films as well.

Now you gave me a funny way to bring back Godzooky, make him a 4th dimensional imp, especially in a DC cross over.

​@@StuartLegomanLittledewit

God BaTB was so good

Because why demand more

I remember after watching Godzilla 2014, wanting a sequel right away and right away turned into 5 years.

To be fair that is pretty fast for a film series of this budget and scope, to get the CGI, effects and the monsters to look that amazing in such time is nothing to scoff at Not defending the clown obviously but simply being devils advocate

​​@@gfilmer7150fr. I remember on the DVD special features they teased Ghidorah and Mothra and I was so excited for the sequel, but the wait for them to actually make the second Godzilla film was brutal. At least we had skull island in between the time so it wasnt a complete dead zone

@@21Handguns But still, I didn’t want to see Kong, I wanted THAT specific Godzilla. I was really picky back then.

@@gfilmer7150 nah I was the same way lol. Not the biggest Kong fan either but at least we got the sequel eventually and it was very good (at least for the fans anyway) and now we are getting sequels very frequently now

But they understand about properly professional filmmaking than all the toxic AF Godzilla fanboys combined together.

​@@davidostapenko2578Knowing professional film making isn't as impressive as you think . Also Godzilla fans are toxic because they point out the mistakes these video essayists make ? Knowing professional film making isn't an excuse to the misinformation they spread .

@@davidostapenko2578 knowing about film making doesn't mean you know how what is a good movie. just ask Zack Snyder and his " Rebel moon " movies

@@davidostapenko2578 Not going to repeat what the other two have said but I’ll say this. Exactly what “professional filmmaking” do these analysts actually have? Where do they get it from? Is their “professionalism” based on 3 years in film school where they only teach you pretentious theories or have they actually been on set before and been to a production? If it’s the former, then that’s not professionalism. By that logic, I can read books on how to be a policeman and claim that I am a police officer despite not actually experiencing it. Whenever anyone says they are a “passionate film connoisseur/ film expert/ knowledgeable in filmmaking” I roll my eyes because their claims are simply baseless and disingenuous for professionals.

​@@davidostapenko2578this is like saying you would rather want to listen to a fake doctor than to a med student.

^THIS. Toho has got to be happy as hell to have top-notch Godzilla projects being made on both sides of the Pacific! And we should be happy about that too!

​@@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or "Top Notch" by what metric, exactly? I'm not trying to sh*t on the parade, here. But from one Godzilla fan to another I AM going to challenge your logic on this for the sake of helping achieve a broader understanding. There are several lenses, so to speak, people see these films through. One lens is the one you see them through: the lens of a fan who just wants to be entertained with a Godzilla experience. You don't care what the story is. You don't care about the human side of things. You don't care if anything makes sense. You just want Godzilla to be in it doing Godzilla things. And that's fine. Another lens is the lens of those who are in it for the story. They're looking for a coherent, well thought out concept at the core. They're looking for a coherent and well thought out plot with sensible, if not maybe a few unpredictable plot beats along the way to keep things interesting. They're looking for a story that touches their heart and makes them think and challenges what they believe. And that's okay. The conflict that's being generated in the fan base is that there are many Godzilla fans who are looking at the films through the lens of those looking for a story alongside getting a good Godzilla experience. I am one such individual. I like Godzilla to have a strong story like it does in 54 and Minus One. Other films I think have a solid story include Mothra vs Godzilla, Return of Godzilla (84), GvDestoroyah (even if it is a bit wacky), and 2014 (despite having the wrong person as its main human character, it should have been Joe Brody). As a writer myself I find the Monsterverse is lacking what I'm looking for by and large. 2014 has, without question, the strongest and most stable plot and story of the entire MV series thus far. It has its flaws. Joe Brody should have been the MC. They shouldn't have made the film so friggin' dark. And they should have extended the monster sequences by even just 2 or 3 minutes of total screen time. If they'd done these things I believe very strongly that 2014 could have been a $700 million or higher earning film. Skull Island was okay. Nothing special. But a fun time nonetheless. I find the melodrama of Samuel L's character somewhat lacking, even for him as an actor. He was the highlight for sure. But his character really wasn't very well conceptualized and it brought the integrity of the whole thing down for me. KOTM was a hot mess from start to finish. Michael Dougherty either didn't watch 2014 or forgot the sequence of events from the very start. Watch the intro and you'll see the Halo Drop above the city while Emma and Mark Russell search for Andrew. During the 2014 Halo Drop Godzilla was directly underneath it fighting the male MUTO. But in KOTM he's breaking free from the buildings and walking entirely the wrong direction AWAY from the Halo Drop. Dougherty, um....... Da fuq are you on, dude? And don't get me started on how badly written the characters are for Emma and Mark Russell. Emma lost her home, her first born son, her marriage, and her relationship with her daughter to the Titan appearances. And yet she's a fanatical supporter of theirs and willing to commit mass genocide in the name of "returning" the world to them because.......... Why? If you've even taken the most basic of human psychology classes you'll know why this is absolutely backwards. And when you break that down the integrity of the entire rest of the story falls apart. Not just one or two plot points. The entire story. With a story that doesn't make sense, the film falls flat for me. I'll also never understand why Serizawa sacrificed himself when there were other options of getting the nuke to Godzilla. One example is putting it in the front seat of that little mini sub he was piloting, setting it to autopilot, and letting it beach itself on the steps at the bottom of the pyramid. Another option is emptying the explosive casing of a torpedo (that was a naval submarine, so yes it had torpedoes), padding it up and putting the nuke in there on a 15 minute timer and getting the fuq out of dodge before it goes off. Another would have been just dropping it from the sub to the floor at the opening of the cave. It was barely even 1 mile away from Godzilla. That wouldn't make a lick of difference in his ability to absorb all the radiation and enter the exact same super charged state. Why they wasted Serizawa like that is a head scratcher I don't think I'll ever get over. In the name of nostalgia and trying to capture and honor the original sacrifice of 54's film, Dougherty instead completed wasted Serizawa as a character and disrespected the legacy of the original sacrifice. KOTM was SO CLOSE to being what I was looking for that it's honestly painful. It could have easily been a $1 billion film if Dougherty knew how to write. But, alas, he doesn't. And it shows. The Godzilla and Mothra symbiosis is something he talked about outside of the film, but never showed IN the film. And no, Mothra ex Machina isn't a showing of their symbiosis. She could have done that for anyone. No, her calling to Godzilla isn't a showing of their symbiosis. She could have done that for anyone. Symbiosis is a mutually beneficial relationship. How do they benefit from the other's existence in a way that's unique and special in KOTM?......... They don't. Dougherty didn't capture that. But I WANTED him to. And the opportunities were there but he didn't see what was right in front of his damn face!!! Imagine this for a minute. Mothra's opening sequence hatching from the egg. The girls activate the ORCA and Mothra stops to inspect it. Emma pulls Madison the fuq out of there because she already lost Andrew to Titans and she's not losing Maddison too (they should not be the highlight of the scene anyway, and their presence in the version we have intrudes more than it helps). Mothra looks at the ORCA with curiosity and leans closer to it. As it pings, she looks confused for a moment but then her body flashes with light. It pings again, and a couple seconds later her body flashes with light again. It pings, she flashes again, this time a bit sooner. And finally, in front of all the scientists and Emma and Madison, she's flashing in perfect sync with the ORCA's signal. The scientists remark about how Godzilla's Alpha Call caused a fear response in other Titans it was tested on in the prototype phase and wonder why Mothra is syncing with it and seemingly unafraid. Then, much to their amazement, she lays down and the light in her eyes slowly fades as she falls asleep, still synchronized and flashing with the ORCA's pings. Lastly, as her body flashes with light in sync with the ORCA we get a subtle hint that she's also drawing power from it as the light subtly increases in intensity with each passing flash. THAT would have been a way to show their symbiosis. Godzilla's Alpha Call is a source of fear and respect for other Titans. But for Mothra, it's a lullaby, and seemingly granting her power just by hearing it. This baby Titan who, by all laws of nature should be a blank slate driven solely by instinct and who SHOULD be terrified of his call is instead calmed by it to the point of it being like a lullaby. THAT would have been amazing to me as a story seeker. THAT would have shown that there was more to their relationship than Michael Dougherty's fanboyisms and wanting to capture nostalgia. But, instead, we got a scene where Madison and Emma are front and center taking all the credit for Mothra being pacified and reaching out to touch her when Mothra's focus SHOULD be on Godzilla's call. I would explain why I'm not a fan of GvK, but this comment has gone on long enough and I think you get the point. I love Godzilla. I love the franchise from start to finish. But through the lens of someone wanting the films to have a good story that touches my heart and makes me think and challenges my beliefs the way some of the films in the franchise have done, the MV is lacking significantly in that regard. They're still fun to watch, don't get me wrong. I have to turn my brain off to enjoy them. But I can put them on from time to time and at least be entertained by the monster mashing shenanigans that happen. But if they had monster mashing shenanigans AND a great story I'd be even happier. For me, 1954, Mothra vs Godzilla, 1984, GvDestoroyah, 2014, and Minus One are the top 6 films in the franchise when it comes to giving me what I'm looking for as both a Godzilla fan and a film goer. If you don't care about anything I've said and just want a film that has Godzilla in it, power to you. And I hope you continue to look forward to every new release. But for me, I've lost all faith and care for the MV at this point. They're trying to turn the series into a monster version of the Marvel MCU, and I'm not about that. Sure it'll be fun if I can shut my brain off for it. But I'd rather not do that when I know they COULD, if they had a half decent writing team (their current writer's room SUCKS), give me what I'm looking for. Cheers!

​@@TWDub I find it odd how you say you're not trying to "shit on the parade," yet you're being so overly argumentative and personal about absolutely nothing. They made a simple statement, an opinion, and you go on to write a bunch of malarkey to be some sort of contrarian. You can say you're not trying to do something, but your actions imply something entirely different.

​@@TWDub bro is just yapping to yap

​@@TWDub With all due respect, this is such an excessive response. The lad above clearly didn't state something that should provoke this rant, even it the rant itself makes decent points.

4. son of godzilla

4. Hasn't got gamera

4. Would be the fanbase itself

4. Fandom 5. 1998 Godzilla’s biology 6. Kaiju ships 7. Minilla 8. The anime trilogy 9. Minilla 10. Minilla

​@@sauces7465 5.Godzillas Revenge.

Why are you complaining mate just let folks have their opinions and move on

I like to have fun with good movies.

@@kwayneboy1524I have an opinion shut the fuck up

I watch big monster destroy city Me like

Jesus christ...have people just FORGOTTEN its ok to criticise media??

The fact that he is the most versatile character ever lived. He can be a hero, a villain, anything can work. That is why he is the longest franchise ever lived.

@@nicolestimothy9921Yeah! He can be an allegory for the dangers of nuclear power, a force of nature that exists to maintain balance on the planet we call home, a Hero who inspires others to be strong, a villainous force of destruction, a being from another dimension that, like the Icon of Sin, gets stronger the longer it stays in our dimension, ETC. It’s one of the reasons I love Godzilla.

@@elvenbuttress thats the reason I love Godzilla more and more. The fact Godzilla just won the Oscars had boost his popularity back to the world. What a time to be alive!!!

"was never a problem in his 70 years" really? you can't think of a single issue godzilla and toho might have encountered? an issue that would lead to a decade long hiatus from the series that was originally planned as an *end* to the series?

​@nicolestimothy9921 what version fits the icon of sin description?

Agreed

It used to be owned by someone who cared about art and film making but looks like he sold the channel

I know right? All he does is complain and complain. And I'm the type of guy that Nerdstalgic claims to be appealing to, and yet I'm straight up repelled by his vids. I don't even watch the stuff, whenever I see a thumbnail I'll immediately hit the "I don't want to see this" button. The problem is that guys like Nerdstalgic is that they're just running off of "anti-wokeness." But they really just appeal to a certain group of far right nutcases who spend half of their time complaining about women and the other half complaining about Jews.

☝️YES! This is the point I was dying to make! THANK YOU!

I totally agree, Godzilla is an inherently outrageous entity.

I like Minus One more than the Monsterverse movies but at worst the Monsterverse is dumb fun.

​@@joshuafischer684yes

​​@@joshuafischer684 In my opinion Godzilla x Kong is the peak of the monsterverse because it shamelessly focuses on the fun aspect while still delivering an emotionally investing and completely unrealistic story

It never will reach those levels as long as it stays true to the source material unlike transformers

​@@Kaiju-bm4ts Thankfully it seems we wont get a Godzilla(1998) case any time soon xD

@@draconinja2728 If it does come close to godzilla 1998 then it better be like godzilla the series

​@@draconinja2728 Toho won't let it.

@@draconinja2728 honestly i wish they add zilla back to the monsterverse but as separate specie. liek imagine gman beating zilla butt

Biolante needs to be brought into the legendaryverse. The first time around was ahead its time with Bio's practical affects and looks. Can only imagine what can be done today.

Yeah, they only care because critics and the Oscars told them to. You could remove Godzilla from the movie entirely and that would be just fine by them. It's the elevated horror situation again, they want to take the franchise and conform it to their standards to make it "respectable".

People don't take into account the target audience especially in the first era. Post 1954 the movies got more family friendly and aimed at kids. The next era and millennia were more serious and were tantamount to a Marvel movie. Intense action but very little to give kids nightmares. Then came Shin and Minus One. These are the studio going back their '54 roots. While '54 is oh so tame by future movie standards it was not a goofy family friendly movie either. These three are the movies that drive hard the point of man's sins(nuclear weoapons and pollution plus inept government for Shin) coming back to bite them hard.

Honestly, I find the monsterverse to be a mixture between the Heisei and Showa films. Which is great because those are my favorite eras.

They won't be Showa until the movies bomb both critically and financially to the point that they have to retire the character. Then it'll feel like Showa!

@@TheHorns1996 isn’t that just every Tokusatsu series tho? They end when they start making less money

@@mrgodzillaraptors8632 Well, they should avoid making the MV like the Showa Era so it can keep making more money

@@mrgodzillaraptors8632 nah it wont be a true love letter to the showa era until godzilla dropkicks shimo while he and kong double tag teams ghidorah

the only bad thing the monsterverse did was bring in a bunch of media-illiterate children who act like critiquing a movie means you hate it and who think they know everything about kaiju movies in general

@@ghost-iv8gt ironic coming from you

​@@ghost-iv8gtMe reading your replies in other comments.

​@@ghost-iv8gtirony

​@@ghost-iv8gtdude you have no room to talk we've all seen your other comments

>Deeply compelling >Ford Brody and his wife Pick one

I don't feel that being overly reductionist about stuff is really contributing to the conversation.

@@joshuafischer684 The original video was ridiculously overly reductionist

@@joshuafischer684No he’s right. These video essayist care to much realism.

You know not everyone on KZfaq has ads right

@@Izywik92 You know that people will seek clout regardless right? 99% of video essays are monetized anyway.

@@reiangossling6395 99%?! You really love to exaggerate, 50% seems like a fair number. Also for “clout” dude at least come up with a better and more original excuse, I know you’re trying very hard to protect you’re favorite franchise but c’mon man. I loved the MonsterVerse when it first started with 2014 and Kong Skull Island because they saved the Godzilla brand after the disaster that was 1998, the MonsterVerse used to have heart and thought put into it, I thought Godzilla was back to being good and the best he’s been since 1995, but then KOTM messed it up and here we are. The MonsterVerse is not all bad, it’s the recent entries that let me down.

@@Izywik92 Nah, KOTM was a great film. You're just pretentious.

@@ElvenRaptor Great film? yet had mixed reviews (rightfully) and was a box office disappointment

Actually it was a flop. And the reason it flopped was because of bad reviews (rightfully) and the release date

@Izywik92 that not how flops work lol if a movie made money in a profitable way it is not a flop.

​@@Izywik92 I don't think you understand what a flop is lmao

@@cookiesnugglez7318 look it up

@@cookiesnugglez7318 what makes you think that?

I'm a die hard G fan, but I do have to question some of your points here. First off, Godzilla's not complex. He's about as basic as it gets which is why he's so versatile and able to fit so many different situations and presentation styles without missing much of a beat. If he were complex, he'd be a lot more locked into a specific niche because complexity does not breed flexibility. That complexity has to be tended to and focused on in order for it to have the appropriate impact which is why you don't see many, if any crossovers or one-offs of shows or films or video games which actually have complex characters at the heart of their story. Second, just because Minus One's director says he likes the monsterverse means only one thing: one man likes the Monsterverse. That's not an "end of discussion" statement of any kind even when taking into account the fact that there are the snobs in the fanbase who say "everything except 54 and Minus One suck." When someone says "everything except 54 and Minus One suck," saying the director of Minus One likes the MV is about as counter to their statement as saying "everything except 54 and Minus One are awesome." In short, no counter at all. Honestly, it's better simply not to even acknowledge the folks who have their heads stuck up their asses saying everything except 54 and Minus One suck. That's their opinion, and they're entitled to it just as you're entitled to yours. Many of the people saying this have been Godzilla fans since they were children, just like most of us. So saying "they don't understand Godzilla" also has no merit. They understand perfectly well. They simply carry the opinion that the films as entertainment experiences suck outside of the original and Minus One. It doesn't mean they don't understand Godzilla. What they are doing is failing to appreciate Godzilla. There's a difference, but it's an important distinction to make. Cheers.

@@TWDub Godzilla is at his best when he is portrayed as a malevolent, yet tragic monster who acts the way he does because he is legitimately hurt and lonely because of the bomb. He can have his moments where he saves the day, and he can have his moments where he is the bad guy. Both are acceptable, as long as that extra heartbreak is there.

@@TWDub I see your point. I was just saying that this whole idea of “everything but the original is bad because it’s serious and the rest aren’t” is a pretty bad way at looking at a 70 year old franchise with about 40 films and a couple shows Also the thing about the minus one director liking the monsterverse, you are completely correct, I don’t know what I was thinking when I said that

@@TheHorns1996that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. However I respectfully disagree, as I prefer Godzilla films where he’s fighting other monsters in an attempt to protect the balance of nature.

​@@elvenbuttress The only movies where he's explicitly fighting to protect nature are in the Legendary movies, that's funny.

I know, right? it was so annoying and such an attack on the community when a stranger on the internet said "hey man I prefer the more serious godzilla movies" yeah so glad we collectively got together to bully him

@ghost-iv8gt I wouldn’t say bully. We just called him out.

@@ghost-iv8gt He put a shit video on the internet, people called it shit. Criticism is not bullying. Some people probably took it too far I'll give you that.

@@Billybobjoe what was so shit about it? he doesn't like the same movie you do? grow up

@@ghost-iv8gtMany claims made in Dr. Skippers video were just outright wrong. Like saying the original 1954 Godzilla‘s Copyright has lapsed. Or saying things about minus one, while showing scenes of Shin Godzilla, which is a film of which the existence is never aknowledged in the Video. All of those things, show, that Dr Skipper never did even any basic research on godzilla and has no idea, what he is talking about.

Uhm ackshually, Gobzilda is a methawhore for slug addition and if you disagree with my oponion on this work of art you have no media literacy.

Wait, there is actually gonna be sequels?

@@celestialmailbox3622they hinted they be willing to continue Minus One instead of just redoing another one

@JohnWilliams-wl9px That honestly just made my day. Thanks for the info.

Ooh? Minus One Sequels will be VS movies? I would LOVE to see the Minus One counterparts of classical monsters.

he was in a cameo in king of the monsters (he was the skeleton that was in the underwater city before it was destroyed)

most MV haters simply hate it because its CGI or because its not Japanese, they just come up with the biggest excuses to hate them

Her redemption didn’t mean anything lmao

@@Izywik92 Why not?

@@nonamecommenter3005 logic: “I have caused millions of lives to be lost so in order to redeem myself I have to kms” Plus, her plan was so unbelievably stupid that I didn’t even take her seriously at all 😂

@@Izywik92 So by "her redemption" you mean her corrective action? *I* didn't say the word *"redemption",* you did. I didn't say she undid the damage she caused, either. My point is that Emma acknowledged her fault in causing an *ongoing* disaster and made the ultimate sacrifice to *end* it. You said it "didn't mean anything." Of course it did. Heading into the middle of the battle of Boston, repairing the Orca, and drawing Ghidorah's attention away from Godzilla, meant the difference between THE END OF THE WORLD and the ending we got. And her decision to stay behind in the city with the device instead of leaving in the osprey meant ensuring her own death so that everyone else aboard the craft could escape with their lives instead of risking them all at once. Now you don't have to find her initial plan sensical, but my point was that there was a certain logic to it from the perspective of a scientist that studies the Titans, warped though it may be. Remember; Emma said her plan resulted from her trying to find meaning in the loss of her child's death and the conclusion she came to was that it was the collateral damage of a necessary process. She argues that if the Titans aren't allowed to roam free, that the planet will never regenerate fast enough to outpace the damage humanity is doing to it (humanity's own environment) and thus, *all life on earth,* which includes *every human,* will cease to exist. If you are detached enough to weigh outcomes by the overall numbers of lives lost (and she was), than anything less than ALL OF THEM is the clear choice. A flaw in her plan, as pointed out by the major scientific players on the Argo, is that it has too many unknowns. Though once again, Emma doesn't believe there's enough *time* left to risk her worst case scenario from playing out before a better solution can be discovered, let alone implemented. Her logic is at least as sound as that of the MCU's Thanos, so if her plan is bad, then so is his, but the point in either case isn't that their plans are *good,* it's that they don't feel contrived within the narrative while driving conflict.

@@nonamecommenter3005 by teaming up with eco-terrorists who knew EXACTLY who Ghidorah was and capable of without getting suspicious and put her daughter in danger, sorry but that’s just stupid. On top of that, Michael Dougherty said he agreed with her!! How do you make someone worse than hitler and agree with her?! Even the actor who played Ren said in an interview that he thought Michael was insane for thinking that

Hard agree, we need to keep the posers out!

This is what gatekeeping is all about. Most people just mistake it for elitism.

Its Ironic. Both sides that are calling for gatekeeping are the very ones that need to be gatekept OUT. You have the wokies who want to change everything like its the ship of thesius and not even have the balls to do something INTERESTING or good with those changes. Then you have the dumbasses who want it to either be pure escapism or power fantasies (so Anime Fans if I wanted to piss off an entire community). Nerdstalgic is just as much in need to be kept OUT of fandoms as left leaning hacks like Jim Sterling. Neither of them are good for the long term health of a fandom. And you wanna know why? Because both are hellbent on making it about the Culture War. Once something gets dragged into the Culture War by either political side, its gonna be fucked. Disney irreprably fucked Star Wars by calling all critics of the Sequel Trilogy Far-Right bigots.... which only enabled and platformed the REAL Far-Right bigots as they were looking for an audience, and those that Disney pissed off became that audience.

Agree, but some people think "Gatekeeping" shoukd just be keeping out people in general sadly

Amen brother

98 zilla is fine if he isn't called godzilla but something else

That's a really bad argument, unless you believe the latest Legendary movie is as profound as Minus One you're just avoiding the point TRYING to be made (cuz it's still a bad point to make).

What movie with a dinosaur that regenerates comes from?

Especially consider Ishirō Honda himself made some of the goofy entries they're crapping on.

Fr, no one hates a franchise/movie more than its own fanbase

Where?

@@edorasmarauder5761 look harder

Glad to see that the 1998 film started you on the path to being a fan of the Big G. It isn't a perfect film, but both it and the animated series that was the sequel to the film introduced new fans to Godzilla--like you. The more Godzilla fans we have, the better!

Yeah that was my kick start introduce to Godzilla. Whem 2014 came in, I started to learn about Godzilla and look up the old ones and I respect it all even the OG "54 grandpa Goji and few bit with 1998 Zilla.

Also quick fact, pink is a clever color for a form with higher radiation, as purple and pink reach the highest of the visble light energy scale, and as purple is Shin's color pink was a good way to show Godzilla's growth in power while give him his own identity.

I don’t really have much hope for Gamera showing up in the Monsterverse.

@@edorasmarauder5761 Yeah I'm not expecting it, but is would be awesome if it did happen.

many Showa films are pretty bad (but in a good way)

Because that movie was originally meant to be a King Kong movie, but because Toho let the rights expire, they inserted Godzilla into Kong's role.

@@MrAwsomeness360 No Toho's rights didnt expire in 1966, in fact they literally made a King Kong movie the next year. The reason Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster is a Godzilla movie instead of a Kong movie is because it was supposed to tie into the Rankin Bass TV show. But Rankin Bass didn't like the script. They swapped Kong with Godzilla then made King Kong Escapes in 1967.

Because she was played by Kumi Mizuno, 'nuff said. Can hardly blame the lad for being horny on main.

r/suddenlyarkham

@@MrAwsomeness360 okay but now i wanna see Godzilla climb the empire state building

This is a stupid dichotomy. It isn't serious vs action, even comoared to the sillier showa movies monsterverse sucks ass. Shit fight choreography, shit creature design, shit characters, shit humor, ect.

@@hyperboliccancers3269 Prove it.

Uhhhh wrong channel to add.

@@ElvenRaptorYOU prove it doesn’t.

STRONGEST GROUPS to not mess with Godzilla Lord of the Rings warhammer 40k

And commentary channels with egos and boring ass voices try going against the godzilla fanbase yet get torn apart

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Sadly if they made a vs movie with a real winner one would lose too much money

Well, that's not gonna happen. The studio that created Gamera once asked Toho if they could do a collaboration once, and Toho said no. This was years ago though, so I don't know if sentiments have changed.

I'd say the 1954 film is still darker because Minus One while still a dark film does have its moments of brevity and it's actually much more uplifting than people give credit for.

I think the reason Minus One has so many rabid fans is because it stands head and shoulders above nearly every movie that came out in 2023. Bigger than the Monsterverse, 2023 was not a great year for film. Yes, Oppenheimer was incredible, but the rest of the film landscape was mostly mediocre. And then Minus One shows up being as good as it is almost unannounced. And don't forget that there are a lot of people who dislike modern Hollywood trends. Regardless of the way you might feel about it, there are people who see things they dislike in Hollywood and this movie is absolutely devoid of those things.

nah I disagree, Minus one is dark but it has a pretty uplifting ending, compared to 1954 where the ending is pretty dam sad (because Japan is now forced to survive in a ocean that is now a radioactive wasteland, which means that their main source of income is now gone)

zilla is a cool design, just not for godzilla, he is a lot better when viewed as his own thing.

Preaaaaaaach 🙏 But for real though, you shouldn't be ashamed. I'm the type of guy that watches a movie like Metropolis one night. Then Paul Blart mall cop the next.lmao. The point is that there is value in both forms of entertainment, and I'm tired of ppl pretending there isn't. No matter how "dumb" a piece of media is, there's an intelligence behind it. People got together and poured their heart, soul, and energy into the flashy light show. Whether it succeeds is on a case by case basis, but there's nothing wrong with enjoying something that was created to be enjoyed.

And it's all over a series of films made by stuffing a man in a rubber suit.