Thanks, including the results is the only way to do it, if you don’t include results you might as well not even post the video

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I would agree but It was late May early June and I figured we would get rain sometime in week after planting. Usually that’s one of the wettest times of the year.

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I feel ya. Idk how people don't have plot failures all the time. It seems that they're just so rain dependant even with the no till rye/ buckwheat cover

@@davidmartin8823 when tilling you are able to work the seed into the soil when packing so a lack of moisture won’t dry the seed out as bad, but no till the seed sits right on top of the hard ground, even if it’s covered by something like rye you will need moisture for it to take root. Soybeans need a good rain in the forecast when planting like this and when you have a normal year they usually turn out just as good as tilling.

I got all my brassicas in in the past 1-2 weeks too. All this rain we’ve been getting should really get those plots going 👍

If there is still a lot of open soil under the weeds you should be able to just broadcast into the weeds and crush just like buckwheat

Yes letting the rye get tall is not a good idea. After 1 yr it becomes too much of a thatch layer to seed into. I would recommend spraying and tilling if you have rye seeded into your plots. Till and plant buckwheat in mid June and no till brassicas into the buckwheat when the buckwheat flowers out.

I have never tried mowing it to terminate the rye. I suppose it probably would kill it if you wait to mow when it’s tall and when the plant is just starting to dry down then it won’t come back.

The rye probably wouldn’t grow as fast as the buckwheat, so that’s why he uses buckwheat.

Carbonic acid in the roots of roundup ready soy beans. Try again.

The rye seed will germinate and brassica will not grow. Been there! Need to terminate rye before seed become viable and that’s to early in season for most brassica planting

@@disc4609 Good to know. I left a bunch this yr and it has not germinated yet.

I would have to agree, if you let it dry down and die once you crush it down and it comes into contact with soil and some moisture a lot of it may germinate. If you leave it standing it probably won’t though. That would be an interesting thing to try. You probably would have to plant early July which is a little early but won’t be the end of the world. I would try it on half your plot next year if you really want to. That would be an interesting thing to try for people who don’t want to use chemicals.

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 Yes. I've got a lot of ag field conversion that I can experiment with small plots.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pKycitKkz6_LnX0.html Here’s a video of pretty much the same drag/harrow. All the new ones made today are basically a chain fence and don’t weigh enough to crush down the rye. These old school drags are around 75-100lbs and do a good job after 2-3 passes on the rye. As you can tell in this video they are very old pieces of equipment. We have a couple drags, they were all my grandpas that he used when planting alfalfa. We also have his old cultipacker that I use sometimes. The drag is easier to transport from property to property and probably cheaper to buy. Look on Facebook marketplace for some old ones.

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 thank you. I assume you run that over the rye with the spikes as least aggressive as possible?

Yes leave it flat, not aggressive

After you crush it down it won’t matter how thick it was planted but yeah I would agree 75-100lbs is best. You want it to smother out weeds but not choke itself.

Yes. I mix at 2oz per gallon

Directly after you seed. Expect slow growth from the beans for the first couple weeks. They may look kinda stressed. Sometimes they take some time to push throughout the thatch layer if the rye was very thick. But once there up and have a couple leaves on them they start to take off. The bad thing from using this method definitely the slow growth the first month and if you don’t get rain they WONT germinate until you do. But the good thing about this method is you hardy get any weeds in the plots. The rye layer does a really good job of choking out weeds. But spray earlier than later even if there isn’t many weeds, if you wait to long the beans will be too tall and you’ll damage them. Spraying a pre emergent Simazine with a post emergent like glyphosate would be best at the 3 week stage when the beans are up and not many weeds have show up.

My buckwheat came in pretty good once it germinated, I spread my brassicas into it and crushed the buckwheat down last weekend before all this rain we’ve been getting.

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 yeah I did it last weekend as well, my buckwheat was patchy and a lot did germinate, I had some ferns pop up and just used them. Seems to be working out. Went out Saturday and tons of radish are already popping, we are getting a lot of rain (raining right now lol)

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I was a dumb ass and put the buckwheat down at the end of may and we did see rain for 5 weeks.

I plant the rye in early to mid September when the beans are turning yellow. No need to spray. You can seed the rye into brassicas as well in mid September and get good growth too.

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 can buckwheat be planted in September as well or better to wait til spring?

Deer don’t eat buckwheat so you wouldn’t want to plant in the fall for a hunt plot. It is used as a cover crop in the summer that you can seed brassicas into in aug. you plant it in early to mid June and seed brassicas into the standing buckwheat in late July or early aug and then crush the buckwheat down. It’s just a cover crop.

Keeping the ground clear the whole summer up until aug when you plant either takes tilling or spraying multiple times throughout the summer to keep the ground clear of weeds. Not many people want to do that. I like to seed some rye into my brassicas in September to add more green tonnage and when it comes back in the spring instead of killing it when it’s short I wait until early June to seed my buckwheat in when the rye is 4-6ft tall. The buckwheat is just a cover crop and a soil builder. It does the same job as spraying or tilling multiple times would do. It smothers out the weeds and around aug I seed in brassicas and crush and kill the buckwheat.

That is true.

A lot of moisture really helps but I’ve had good germination on no till beans like this with only a 1/2 in of rain. We didn’t get anything other than morning dew for 3 weeks after planting.

I love Don's channel but man does he like having dirt exposed to the hottest summer sunlight.

I like doing no-till on some of my bean plots and almost all my brassica plots. If I had a no till drill I would do no till for all my corn and beans. Ive seen some of Don Mealeys videos too.

@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I just picked up a Tar River 505. Still figuring it out but think it should work.

Don Mealey is by far the hardest working no BS food plotter on KZfaq. Love that man. Especially when he goes on a rant

I plan too haha