NO WAY Howard WEBB Said this!

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8 ай бұрын

Howard Webb of the PGMOL has come out and explained why Kovacic didn't get a red in the Arsenal vs Man City game and Mark Goldbridge cannot believe it. Get the latest Football News on That's Football.

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@samuelking7492 8 ай бұрын

I still find it amazing that fans can claim that “people are just crying”, when these awful decisions keep happening and keep having huge impacts

@shinichikudoz 8 ай бұрын

U mean spurs fans

@eduardogoncalves4159 8 ай бұрын

Anyone claiming that aren't real football fans.

@corgansow6173 8 ай бұрын

"People are just crying" until that decision goes against their team

@ckwong1593 8 ай бұрын

Because it hasn't impacted them yet 😂

@navin5225 8 ай бұрын

Spurs bottlers who playing relegation teams abs 9 men teams lmao

@juliangilbert5465 8 ай бұрын

Big thanks mark for standing up for the sport of football above fan rivalry.

@claudiomutua3232 8 ай бұрын

I like this about Mark. We can always banter but we should all call out incompetence and potential corruption when we see it

@mynumberoneguy 8 ай бұрын

Mark is right. The VAR officials are protecting the ones on the pitch. Instead of just getting the right decision. Absolutely disgusting.

@usm4n992 8 ай бұрын

@@mynumberoneguythese VAR shockers are getting more and more frequent

@paulmcloughlin8463 8 ай бұрын

Refs are over in UAE and Saudi, if anyone thinks influence is not been bought over there is not living in the real world. We all know about oil money and buying people..... the rot has set in with the oil money, its going to get worse its vile.

@MrMessiah44 8 ай бұрын

Most football fans are above this when it comes to decisions like this.

@choaterboat 8 ай бұрын

I’m a City fan and when Kovacic went in for that second tackle, I immediately said, “oh great, now we’re down to ten”. Was absolutely shocked he didn’t get a red, especially after seeing the other two red cards Mark mentioned

@fayesouthall6604 8 ай бұрын

Well said

@tdh1990 8 ай бұрын

Isn't it a bizarre result of the rules that if he'd been sent for the first challenge, he'd have a 3 match ban, he fouled badly *again* and if a second yellow was given at that point he'd have a shorter ban (1match) and by avoiding a second yellow altogether, he won't miss any games! Baffling

@liammilne2242 8 ай бұрын

@@tdh1990The more bizarre part to me is in retrospect the’ve admitted the first challenge was a red… They admit he should’ve been sent off for the second challenge as a follow up yellow to the mistake. Neither were given, now Kovacic doesn’t get any ban, and the PGMOL won’t give him the ban after the fact despite the clear and obvious errors that took place during the game. Not even for Arsenal’s sake, but for the teams facing City in their next 3 fixtures, will now have Kovacic to at least think of, when he should be suspended.

@MortChrist 8 ай бұрын

How are you lot surprised at this point? Refs have been protecting City for years now

@nickchemist723 8 ай бұрын

I’m surprised that wasn’t your reaction when you saw the slowed down video of his first tackle on Odegard . From behind , cleats showing , nowhere near the ball . Clear red

@danielhall9250 8 ай бұрын

Liverpool fan here Mark…huge respect to you for talking sense and standing up for what’s right on these issues regardless of rivalry! This is bigger than all that and about the future of football. Like I said, I have loadsa respect for you mate…thank you!

@juliangilbert5465 8 ай бұрын

As a Liverpool fan, its tempting to think its some form of corruption. In fact it's much worse. I think it's just laziness, arrogance, disrespect for fans and pure incompetence.

@adamarmstrong8258 8 ай бұрын

It's defo not corruption, it's ineptitude

@polreamonn 8 ай бұрын

It's not one thing, it's 4 things.

@claudiomutua3232 8 ай бұрын

What do you think about these guys moonlighting in the UAE and then getting, err some decisions wrong ? It doesn't have to be corruption...even the appearance of corruption is bad for the game.

@Tom-dv6ei 8 ай бұрын

No its definitely corruption

@juliangilbert5465 8 ай бұрын

@@claudiomutua3232 Exactly . It's hard not to believe its corruption. But its probably just unbelievable incompetence. Whatever it is, match officials need to start losing their jobs.

@IanNiblett 8 ай бұрын

The fundamental issue with VAR is we want it used to get the correct decisions but it's being used to protect the refs.

@pierrewave7235 8 ай бұрын

Exactly, they use the equivalent thing in cricket, but if the umpire gets it wrong, he is told to reverse his decision, the correct decision is then given and everybody moves on, it's no big deal. As you say, in football it's there to back the ref, and not get to the right decision.

@davyprendergast82 8 ай бұрын

You're over complicating it. It's straight up match fixing, UAE payments to refs to assist City. Look into Darren England's payments. Soooo obvious

@101RadioheadCovers 8 ай бұрын

@@pierrewave7235you don't need to use a different sport as an example. Most other countries have implemented it well. PL is unique in that it has a corrupt police force as its referees that are only interested in covering up their own mistakes and protecting each other.

@eddietee6305 8 ай бұрын

Soooo TRUE. Buddy club. Hiw can you forger ro draw the line? How can you not know that the Luiz goal was not given?

@davyprendergast82 8 ай бұрын

@@eddietee6305 It's gobsmacking that anyone thinks that level of incompetence is even possible. It's so clearly CORRUPTION!

@trigzdidit9267 8 ай бұрын

United fans get a bad wrap but as a Liverpool fan mark goldbridge is the best of the lot, intelligent, humble and wants the best for football, not just his team. I respect that

@yxxxngslayer 8 ай бұрын

_"Whoever gets the least bad decisions will win the league"_ . Remember these words. 💯

@m3r594 8 ай бұрын

Or is that the favoured team by refs and PL

@itsme280381 8 ай бұрын

“The team who wins the league will be the one who avoids as many bad decisions as we are seeing” Goldbridge 2023 - remember this.

@nont18411 8 ай бұрын

Man City is the new Fergie’s United.

@deinvater2237 8 ай бұрын

So true!!

@jasontripp3726 8 ай бұрын

@@nont18411every decision recently and looking back at Arsenal last season does seem to benefit one particular side. Of course referees being paid to go to the Saudi league which is owned by that particular sides owners shouldn't be questioned 😂😂😂

@stefandinu6389 8 ай бұрын

So city then.

@miyazakisimping 8 ай бұрын

That's been the case for some years now. Sometimes, they've genuinely been better than the competition, not always though.

@kinginthenorth5267 8 ай бұрын

So VAR sent the ref to look at the Curtis Jones incident but couldn't do the same for Kovacic? Was the Curtis Jones one a more clear and obvious error?

@finding_aether 8 ай бұрын

Precisely because its more clear and obvious they cannot send him😅

@tydesai3711 8 ай бұрын

They dont want to re-referee kovacic’s takle but are fully happy to re-referee the curtis jones one

@FxtballXGaming 8 ай бұрын

@@finding_aetherwrong, Jones got the ball b4 slipping on his leg...yellow card worthy. Kovacic got none of the ball + it was obvious

@ManuelMaceira_14 8 ай бұрын

@@FxtballXGamingyeah but Casemiro got a red for it last season so jones deserved it for consistency

@FxtballXGaming 8 ай бұрын

@@ManuelMaceira_14 wrong again, Casemiro didnt deserve the red either

@meznehemia 8 ай бұрын

Aa a Liverpool fan, much respect to Arsenal for neutralizing ref's mistakes impact by going all out & winning against city 💪👏

@NatrixHasYou 8 ай бұрын

Michael Oliver didn't seem to mind having an impact on the game when he gave Martinelli two yellows for the same passage of play. Crazy how that works.

@AstonVillaBozzy 8 ай бұрын

Michael Owen and Howard Webb as a show couldn’t pick a worse combo and show

@Dmsl69420 8 ай бұрын

Both united legends

@ppcy 8 ай бұрын

Owen is busy running NFT scams lol

@Do27gg 8 ай бұрын

Just needed mcmanaman

@PoliAstroN 8 ай бұрын

You can’t call that a show, it’s a literal political circlejerk for referees broadcast on TV for the masses to watch and be disgusted at 🇮🇱

@aeplogen 8 ай бұрын

@@ppcy 💀 ☠️

@miyazakisimping 8 ай бұрын

I agree that the scissor tackle is the most dangerous tackle. That's why Jordan Pickford was straightaway sent off after the Van Dijk incident. Oh..

@jackkeightley5788 8 ай бұрын

What's more insane about the claim that it wasn't clear and obvious enough to overturn was that Curtis Jones' and Gusto's red cards were both overturns and they got the ball first

@GajendranSudharson 8 ай бұрын

In liverpool's case, 4 major errors were made that effected the game massively.

@user-qs8xc4ni6f 8 ай бұрын

Mike Dean who said he was protecting his mate resulting in bad bad decisions but then brought on tv to explain decisions. Unbelievable.

@Jiren261 8 ай бұрын

Oh lord he was an embarrassment on Sky sports Saturday. I'm not a Merson fan but he owned Dean.

@TheChampIsHere_ 8 ай бұрын

Mike dean was always so desperate to be a celebrity .. sad little man

@dontbewoke 8 ай бұрын

Yep , because the media and refs and everyone else in football bar the fans are in cahoots. And apparently its not corrupt...lol

@juanpanasonio9050 8 ай бұрын

Notice chelsea never got an apology for that incident either.

@anderslarsson7426 8 ай бұрын

Still don’t understand how the VAR team did not know what field decision twas taken when they did the check. They must have been asleep.

@radef.6177 8 ай бұрын

We had scissor tackle on VVD and they didnt do anything about it, luckly it didnt end his career but it changed him for good! he is not the same player ever since.

@paulosullivan3205 8 ай бұрын

That was different as it was given as offside so the play had to be brought back anything after the offside call is null and void still crazy tho

@radef.6177 8 ай бұрын

It is crazy,that means i cant kill him and nothing happens lol@@paulosullivan3205

@mavricxXx 8 ай бұрын

@@paulosullivan3205 still a near career ending tackle, "in play" or not should have been shown a red. Managers can get reds and they certainly arent in play

@paulosullivan3205 8 ай бұрын

@mavricxXx yeah he defo shouldve I'm a Pool fan but the rules don't allow the ref to make that decision, there isn't anything subjective in that call the ref couldn't do anything

@paulosullivan3205 8 ай бұрын

@@mavricxXx managers getting red cards has nothing to do with fouls after an offside call you can't compare the 2

@thelostsock2187 8 ай бұрын

Mark, brilliant take on this, im sure you are speaking for the vast majority of football fans. Keep it up

@denhaak8792 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely shambolic, standing on what is essentially international televsion and saying that Kova tackle was not as bad as the Curtis one. The Kova tackle is reckless and dangerous and is done with significantly greater force than what happened in Curtis' incident. Had Ødegaard's foot been well planted, that cound've been a season ending injury for him. The most you'd ever get from from the Curtis tackle is a bruised chin.

@tomjones1679 8 ай бұрын

Hi mark, Villa fan here, thank you for noticing that blatant push on Watkins, unbelievable officiating this season, everyone will have points lost by the end of the season because of these useless refs. Keep up the great work, champion of the people

@thehpn1097 8 ай бұрын

If we had gotten that penalty we’d be 3rd.

@Flyingwithoutmings 8 ай бұрын

@@thehpn1097not enough people talking about this

@benv1284 8 ай бұрын

As a wolves fan it was a pen tbf, then again we should also have had one for the push on Neto. And you have to be fair, McGinn should definitely have been off if Lemina was. I think that ref wasn’t corrupt, just terrible at his job both ways

@Ali-lc7vp 8 ай бұрын

@@thehpn1097position at the beginning of the season means absolutely nothing. Dont worry, everyone will get wrong decisions eventually so it could balance out lol

@hughzarie1860 8 ай бұрын

I feel that pushes in the back happen a lot but are rarely ever given as fouls (when they absolutely are) at all levels.

@alisterfrancis4011 8 ай бұрын

Mark,you are a gem !! We need more football fans like you who know when to put aside team rivalry and to be fair and balanced in their analyses of football games , The sarcasm was off the charts !!!

@absbabs6153 8 ай бұрын

He says put aside rivalry but when he talks about City it's "justice" for the other team....he didn't put aside anything except his hate for Liverpool cause the decisions were so obviously bad 😂

@fzprof1756 8 ай бұрын

@@absbabs6153what gibberish are you in about?

@bgorski6937 8 ай бұрын

@@fzprof1756right!?

@aurynwestwield1682 8 ай бұрын

Yeah problem is he says all this stuff about being unbiased but thought that red card offence by Onana in the first game against Wolves wasn’t a red card offence, I’m a United fan too but with no red tinted glasses know Onana shud av walked after that.

@multipl3 8 ай бұрын

Preach it brother! We are all behind you

@claymckenzie4575 8 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, I'm an Arsenal fan. However, I appreciate your your honesty and competence when voicing your opinion about Michael Oliver and the VAR performances thank you for your excellent content please continue your work in the defense of football.

@bikerbudjr 8 ай бұрын

Webb is a disgrace

@jaykafei4815 8 ай бұрын

Why? He's trying to do his job, he only just started it.

@nhd6128 8 ай бұрын

@jaykafei4815 Howard Webb is corrupt. VAR is not being used to correct mistakes in the game, it's being used to protect the on field refs. That is NOT the point of VAR. PGMOL should not be involved in VAR at all, it should be a 3rd party, completely independent group running it to keep the refs honest.

@zaneplatt3533 8 ай бұрын

@@jaykafei4815Emphasis on 'trying'... If a doctor tries to save his patient but makes massive mistakes that lead to death, is that good enough for you?

@nicob.4607 8 ай бұрын

@@jaykafei4815and he sucks at it

@dmitc01 8 ай бұрын

Has always been

@But_Sects 8 ай бұрын

“If michael oliver gave a red card then VAR would have told him yes its a red card.” Wait, so if they thought it was a red why didnt they send him to the monitor? What a stupid thing to say haha

@shanekevin6023 8 ай бұрын

Martinelli vs Wolves. Michael Oliver had no problem ruining the game that night in 15 secs with an unprecedented decision of two yellow cards. Gimme a freakin’ break

@antoniocornwall5739 8 ай бұрын

What about the pull on Szoboszlai's shirt pulling him down just before taking a shot. How do they know that he wouldn't score with only the keeper to beat

@DenDave_ 8 ай бұрын

Mike Dean: ''Players dont know the law of the game'' Howard Webb: ''Our refs may not follow the law of the game because we dont want to impact the game'' FCKING WHAT!?

@carrot2556 8 ай бұрын

But then theyre sticklers for the law when it comes to stopping the game to award a goal- see the mike dean vs merson nonsense-

@sando99 8 ай бұрын

Players DO know that when they score and are clearly shown to be onside then, according to the laws of the game, a goal should be awarded!!!

@Amberle73 8 ай бұрын

Oliver didn't have any issue impacting the game when he sent Martinelli off for 2 yellows in the same sequence of play. Funny how it changes from week to week even from the same refs.

@tris87don16 8 ай бұрын

@@Amberle73 Of course

@msimms-ft9yv 8 ай бұрын

Mike deans words are just an excuse for refs incompetence

@roshi98 8 ай бұрын

Regarding Webb's insistence that Hooper refereed fairly, having not known about the Diaz call, last week, a review panel deemed Jota's second yellow to be incorrect. Perhaps had Hooper known at halftime about the one thing he might have taken greater care to get calls right in that second half? Jota's first yellow might not have happened, the phantom foul he called Robertson on, booking Salah for dissent when he didn't say or do anything? I guess we'll never know.

@JTScottOfficial 8 ай бұрын

Salah was booked for kicking the ball away after the challenge to get the ball back.

@UnbelievablyGauche 8 ай бұрын

Marks analysis of the PGMOL/fans dynamic is spot on every video.

@alvinaditya1610 8 ай бұрын

kudos to you mark, it isn't about arsenal or Liverpool this is about football,keep making videos about this so people know how messed up the prem refs are

@neiladdison4457 8 ай бұрын

I'd love for you to watch/use the rugby example from the weekend as something that would immediately benefit football. If you didn't see it, there was an example in the first half of the England/Samoa game where Samoa had a try given, the game was restarted with no arguments from any players and all went on as normal. A couple of minutes later their version of VAR got involved and disallowed the try with full conversation with the Ref relayed to TV. The score was reset while the game was being played and there has been no scandal following the game. It was dealt with in-game, everyone understands and accepts the decision...because it was correct. I'm not saying we should copy rugby but if something clearly works, why be so arrogant as to think football can come up with better or hide behind 'the laws of the game don't allow...'. I don't understand😭

@pimon- 8 ай бұрын

Probably because the media protects PGMOL and PGMOL are people with more brain damage than rugby players🤣

@vega6003 8 ай бұрын

cause refs officiate by the books and not from actual playing experience

@rennington 8 ай бұрын

Perfect 👌🏻

@kwl189 8 ай бұрын

Because they want the controversy to get clicks and views which equals more money. That's the honest truth. This is deliberate incompetence.

@batcavedave2535 8 ай бұрын

@vega6003 The refs unfortunately don't referee by the books or we wouldn't get these decisions. Michael Olivers refusal to give Kovacic a 2nd yellow was based on the mantra of "let's not ruin the spectacle by sending a player off" which isn't in the rules of the game. Its not the refs job to ensure the game is entertaining, it's their job to ensure its fair. Unfortunately Arsenal haven't made anywhere near as much noise as Liverpool because we got the right result which will probably mean it will be forgotten about and the officials will sweep it under the carpet as usual.

@Nakz74644 8 ай бұрын

Hooper got sent to the monitor to check Jones challenge on the advice of VAR....did the same happen for Kovacic? 🤔

@Clembo 8 ай бұрын

No, but both happened to be horrible decisions. It is almost as if the inconsistency is only consistent in that it is always the wrong decision.

@dannywelbz3650 8 ай бұрын

How ? Same thing happened to casemiro and everyone was happy with it being red, it's unlucky but dangerous. Kovacic was a joke

@Nakz74644 8 ай бұрын

@@dannywelbz3650 I can't speak for how many people were happy with his red, but if you're talking about the tackle where his foot bounced off the ball, I didn't think that was a red either. Dangerous, sure, but didn't look out of control/reckless. My problem is that any tackle that 'looks bad' is seeing red. The lower threshold for a red card is almost merging with the upper threshold of a yellow, if that makes sense 🤷🏽‍♂️

@sadiejohn7753 8 ай бұрын

City got them refs on payroll , watch spurs and arsenal drop points because of bad calls

@arvindhmani06 8 ай бұрын

@@dannywelbz3650 What makes you say everyone was happy with it being a red?!

@jaycurtis6087 8 ай бұрын

Another great show Mark. I agree whole heartedly that officiating in this country is bordering on corrupt.

@mr.sympatico3073 8 ай бұрын

Roy Keane would be perfect for this kind of pundit… he just wouldn’t let BS get past and he isn’t scared to speak up. Comes from an Arseanl Fan

@James_Y.T 8 ай бұрын

As Micheal Owen opens the show saying we'll be talking about the VAR goal you can see Webb in the background smirking. Webb is the worst person for this job.

@dirtyfunkymonkey 8 ай бұрын

God, I would flippin' love it if you interviewed Howard Webb.

@SmartCookie2022 8 ай бұрын

Last week, I stood with LFC over the VAR and referee scandal because I knew it would impact other games. We didn't have to wait long before we saw a repeat of the PGMOL fiasco but with Arsenal and a very dodgy Man City side. I'm afraid the blatant corrupt decisions against Man City's closest rivals brings into quesion their so-called historic treble.

@thanos6188 8 ай бұрын

I totally agree with your whole analyst! PGMOL, VAR. I have no confidence in those who are making these horrendous decisions.

@ryanSLF 8 ай бұрын

Put Howard Webb with Micah Richards and Paul Merson see how he gets on, Mike Dean was under pressure the other day from these 2

@samuelking7492 8 ай бұрын

As a lifelong Liverpool fan, I don’t know what Michael Owen was doing there.

@mcdoogledutch2994 8 ай бұрын

Lets not forget he played for United.

@simonoliver8576 8 ай бұрын

@@mcdoogledutch2994Owen is on that referee show because they pay him m8 basically 🤣 and the reason why he doesn't really get stuck into howard webb ie the line of questions is because he ain't allowed to he is only allowed to say what he is told to pretty much that's how I see it the funny thing is about that show they have made that many poor decisions this season half an hour wasn't long enough to get through them all anyway was it 🤣

@jimbo6059 8 ай бұрын

He could not sell cheesy owen linekers crisps either.

@davidatkinson-lifematters4826 8 ай бұрын

It's not incompetence, it's negligence. They know how and why they're doing wrong, but refuse to self-correct.

@Kazat0pia 8 ай бұрын

Which points to the referees having something to gain from their direct negligent behavior. One day the lid will crack open on this, how many of them are crooked? Taking bribes in one way or another? Placing big bets somehow? Or something unseen?

@srgmeerkat 8 ай бұрын

Its neither. This is exactly what they want. Fairness is not a metric used, money is. Controversy sells 💰💰💰

@davidatkinson-lifematters4826 8 ай бұрын

@@Kazat0pia The corruption doesn't have to be explicit. Before the Premier League and its worldwide TV coverage, all but a couple of referees in the game were anonymous disciplinarians. Now they are fledgling media personalities with post-referee career opportunities as pundits. Today they are hyper-aware of their reputations and so (1) they have status anxiety (who wants a long-forgotten ref as a pundit?) and (2) they're scared to upset the big movers and shakers in the game, and so will err on the side of 'keeping-in' with the big clubs. It's as boring as that. Their negligence is mostly about them knowing full-well that they don't referee with strict impartiality.

@davidatkinson-lifematters4826 8 ай бұрын

@@srgmeerkat The corruption doesn't have to be explicit. Before the Premier League and its worldwide TV coverage, all but a couple of referees in the game were anonymous disciplinarians. Now they are fledgling media personalities with post-referee career opportunities as pundits. Today they are hyper-aware of their reputations and so (1) they have status anxiety (who wants a long-forgotten ref as a pundit?) and (2) they're scared to upset the big movers and shakers in the game, and so will err on the side of 'keeping-in' with the big clubs. It's as boring as that. Their negligence is mostly about them knowing full-well that they don't referee with strict impartiality.

@srgmeerkat 8 ай бұрын

@davidatkinson-lifematters4826 that all sounds lovely. But you pick you're line of work. Get on with it

@FauxieDaoJia 8 ай бұрын

Jones and Gusto both touched the ball during making their challenge, unlike Kovacic, and that has to count for something. It's madness.

@Disco_Tek 8 ай бұрын

Gusto completely wins the ball. That send-off still confuses me because he wins the ball a good 30 frames before the contact. It wasn't even close and his legs have to go somewhere. Yellow would be the worst case in my opinion.

@hills863 8 ай бұрын

@@Disco_Teksame case with Jones, he won the ball. I don't know how Kovacic still in the pitch after those 2 fouls

@danielgooner4ever 8 ай бұрын

The commentator said regarding the tackle on declan rice "Rices foot moves towards Kovacic as much as Kovacic goes towards Rice". Like wtf

@bushmonster1702 8 ай бұрын

Lol that crazy. Rice was lampooned from behind.

@davidelliott4979 8 ай бұрын

In the gusto incident there’s no mention of the fact that he plays the ball first so why does gusto and Curtis jones both get red but Kovicic doesn’t. That stinks of corruption in favour of Man City. And where was Michael Oliver officiating the week before. UAE who back City. Corruption at the core of football.

@lynoluoch1891 8 ай бұрын

Oh shut up with the "They are favouring Mancity" narrative. City has also been at the receiving end of controversial calls against them. Hwaang should have been sent off in the Wolves game and maybe City wouldn't have lost. Isn't webb one of the refs who gave numerous controversial decisions in favour of United during Fergies Era? Officiating in England has been awful even before oil money came into play and VAR is now exposing the rot.

@shiba3201 8 ай бұрын

as a liverpool fan it aint about favoring specific club there are too many mistakes made by referees in every single pl game

@HaydenTaylor-qs1si 8 ай бұрын

@@lynoluoch1891well said lad 👍

@richardbroad2848 8 ай бұрын

The truth will probably come out in a few decades when it no longer matters. Yes United benefited hugely from refs in their era and now it's City's turn. Money talks. Would you really put it past City's owners?

@jacobflowers_ 8 ай бұрын

love the fact you are challenging the system continuously with your platform, keep it up!

@zachekpe7849 8 ай бұрын

Wow, cliche as it sounds, you're definitely the first United fan I've ever fully agreed with on football in my 30 years of life. Your opinions are absolutely spot on - must be a generational thing

@johngarrett7861 8 ай бұрын

Not Owens fault he didn't ask his own questions, rather the questions he was told to. This is how they defend the PGMOL

@bhavyamankad479 8 ай бұрын

Owen has always looked like a thoughtless wonder in broadcasting anyways.

@ciaranmccolgan3442 8 ай бұрын

Should be someone like Jeremy Paxman grilling Howard Webb, not just Michael Owen nodding along

@chrismiller9867 8 ай бұрын

Yeah you’re right. Webb is only doing this to try and make PGMOL look better. They’re not interested in actual transparency or being genuinely questioned, he’d never do it without agreeing the line of questioning first. It’s pointless and annoying.

@YBNmarinara 8 ай бұрын

Mate to be fair, anyone would have told you before any of these shows happened that Michael Owen would probably be the worst person to do this. Coming from a 29 year old Liverpool fan that idolized Owen as a 10ish year old.

@CoachCON 8 ай бұрын

Disagree, I'm far from an LFC fan but I'm the biggest fan of Stephen Warnock when it comes to questioning these stupid refereeing decisions. He would have asked those questions like he did vs that bald clown who shows up on sky every Monday just to defend his mates. PGMOL is a disgrace.

@samuelking7492 8 ай бұрын

I find it infuriating that there are so many bad decisions every week that we now miss because there’s simply too many.

@LTC366 8 ай бұрын

Hard to keep up at this point

@conrodlindsay5463 8 ай бұрын

I completely agree with what you said. Refs are being arrogant and try to justify errors with rubbish excuses.

@user-ug1cj2nd8y 8 ай бұрын

Glad you mentioned the Aston Villa - Wolves game, no one else has spoke about it that ive seen, I couldn't believe that wasn't given, after they looked at it again! too soft, any push or involvement from behind Ollie Watkins at that moment was a foul! He was literally pushed off course when his body wasn't stable at the moment of his shot. No push and he could have secured 3 points for Villa, the Refs are ruining the game.

@stephenroberts8964 8 ай бұрын

Well done Mark, these refs have been getting away with stuff for years, only to get backed up by their mates. Another one was last week, why wasn't the Brighton player carded when he deliberately brought down a Liverpool player in the box last weekend? Yeah the ref squad are finally being called out, and they dont like it. Thanks Mark.

@3bladeninja21 8 ай бұрын

It's so crazy that basically every week we have to see absolute trash decisions and then a joke of an explanation. That's just life now.

@williambuckley5601 8 ай бұрын

Hey, at least the decisions against Liverpool and Arsenal get coverage. Mark has not even mentioned the game featuring the worst refereeing of the weekend - WHU vs NEW.

@tinpaukovic1428 8 ай бұрын

@@williambuckley5601what happened? (Asking as i really dont know)

@robertraymond348 8 ай бұрын

@@williambuckley5601 yeah what happened there?

@robinfereday6562 8 ай бұрын

Interesting to see if kovacic carries on making such tackles throughout the season

@karlavecunk7334 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your contribution on this subject, everything you say is so true ! Big up from France and go gunners !

@TheRichyboi 8 ай бұрын

Howard Webb was the guy who presided over a World Cup final where Bruce Lee moves were employed

@pacanukeha 8 ай бұрын

Seriously happy that Mark has branched out into talking about the beauty of the game, high quality.

@Goona187 8 ай бұрын

😮you got this spot on Mark. The league depends on the refereeing , who is luckiest 🤔

@philipmarsden7104 8 ай бұрын

The main thing for Webb is simple: Liverpool don't get the points. He was willing to speak to Owen because he did play for United and anything that hurts Liverpool makes Webb happy. Anyway you look at it, VAR's decisions against Liverpool were deliberately aimed to hurt Liverpool.

@OmarYoussef11 8 ай бұрын

It seems one of the biggest VAR problems we have in the PL is that the approach the PGMOL took to it is one of ''its a work in progress'' rather than ''lets make it the best we can from the offset''. The result of this attitude is that the fans, players, coaches and clubs feel like the PGMOL just makes up the rules as they go and they are right to feel that way because this is, effectively, what they are doing. Like Mark says, how was it not a thing, from the beginning, to say out loud the decision you're confirming after saying ''check complete'' in order to avoid miscommunication? That sounds like a basic radio-communications principle two guys on a job site with walkie-talkies would understand the importance of. Furthermore, the fouls and handballs are looked at with an inconsistency that is baffling. Identical incidents will deem 3 or 4 very different interpretations based on who the ref is and which game it is. The handball rules modifications are a joke to begin with, but the complete lack of consistency makes it 10x worse as a handball in one game wont be in another. Some of those handballs awarded you really sit there and wonder ''what would the player need to do to avoid that, play with his arms taped to his body? How is a modification of the handball rule paired with that refereeing approach make for a better football game let alone one that is more fair?

@Bleech606 8 ай бұрын

I don't really understand the 'clear and obvious' defence. Was the Curtis Jones tackle not being a yellow 'clear and obvious'? But Kovacic tackle wasn't 'clear and obvious'? I'd prefer both tackles were yellows but we need consistency.

@knutzaa 8 ай бұрын

Wish more prominent people in football like yourself would talk about the state of our officals. Keep up the great work, hopefully it will make them take note.

@huronchess4810 8 ай бұрын

Well done for your non-bias approach. Much appreciated.

@DovaGeris 8 ай бұрын

If Michael Oliver is the best referee in The Premier League , The Premier League is in trouble. Even more so, with Howard Webb in charge of the refs.

@SavageOprezz 8 ай бұрын

After kovacic. It confirms man city has the PGMOL in their payroll. All decisions that city get in thier favour no other club gets them

@MJR1117 8 ай бұрын

Same with Rodri handball. Every other club would have been disallowed

@seanmacdude 8 ай бұрын

Well done Mark for speaking out, personally I agree with almost everything you are saying, keep it going you are the voice of the fans at the moment

@mattstern3797 8 ай бұрын

Let’s not forget Michael Oliver is the same ref that sent Martinelli off for 2 yellows in one phase of play which has never been seen before or since in the prem! Ridiculous decision,where was him not wanting to have an impact on the game then?? Refereeing standards in this country are a disgrace!

@Oli_B113 8 ай бұрын

i just can't picture what will become of football if it keeps going like this

@mickfoskett6629 8 ай бұрын

People will slowly get fed up with these decisions and lose interest in the game cos they're trying to change a simple enjoyable game with lots of silly changes just for the sake of it..I.e..kickoffs.. kicking backwards now...why??..goalkicks??..you know there's more!..And there should be a salary cap!🤨👹

@thomasmcquaid3417 8 ай бұрын

Mark your leading this fight and we’re all with ye 🔥🔥🔥

@chrisada5347 8 ай бұрын

Mate you are so spot on on this regardless your football club is not involved. Keep the good work

@johnamcinerney 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark. Great content. Given scale of your audience and voice now; would love to think you could get many of the supporters clubs on board to lobby and petition prem league and pgmol. Judging by comments and subscriptions to the community and channels, you’d get hundreds of thousands of signatures if not millions for petitions. Like they have to raise questions in parliament if get certain number of signatures. I know there is a lot going on in the world and ultimately we are talking about football and a game. But still this shrugging of the shoulders mentality and nothing will change approach needs to stop. We know collective fan power is immense. If we turned off our sky subscriptions or now tv etc even for a month and signed up to support through supporters organisations they’d have to take notice. Goldbridge saves football. Keep up the great work. For context I support Liverpool, but I subscribe to all you channels including utd Stand. Always balanced even when you are not if that makes sense. Top man.

@Adii-qp2sy 8 ай бұрын

It amazes me how these referees don‘t even seem to care their making horrible decisions every week. I couldn’t sleep knowing I‘m making gamechanging mistakes and do my very best to improve.

@georgekoutroubas9249 8 ай бұрын

Because people will always sell out stadiums The only way we get our game back is to not go until change is made Without fans there is no football

@danoku5582 8 ай бұрын

Howard Webb is a disgrace for his conversation. Why does he favour one referee and protect the other

@richardbaptist5080 8 ай бұрын

Agree with you Mark. Everyone is so insecure they don’t want to be overruled. Look at how replays are used in rugby and the NFL and implement some of their procedures.

@RoastChestnut 8 ай бұрын

Well said. Keep this up please. Keep banging the drum about this inefficiency and the inadequate way these decisions are swept under the carpet and never called into question by non journalists. Get Mark Charles Albert Pougatch on the job, he takes no prisoners.

@mightyredgiant 8 ай бұрын

Mark why are you the only person properly tackling this issue??? Its incredible that no other media are challenging the mess. Its ruining football for me at this stage. How can we have this much technology now and the game be worse than I ever remember it and I'm 52!?

@sanjd6882 8 ай бұрын

As a neutral for both games, completely agree re Kovacic and Gusto. Hard to believe Kovacic didn't get sent off, and the tackle was definitely worse than Gusto's, which could have gone either way.

@carmellavries421 8 ай бұрын

Do you guys remember life before VAR. It can't go, just improve how they can use it.

@notaspeck6104 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, some common sense.

@dondappapumpumslappa8051 8 ай бұрын

Var just allows corruption

@xterelmattc4609 8 ай бұрын

Well yea decisions were still wrong and we still moaned about them but the issue is that the overall refereeing quality has dropped heavily, more mistakes than ever are being made, more subjective decisions are being seen as wrong than ever before and now we have VAR making significant errors aswell, it's not even about var or not it's about accountability for how bad the general referring quality is and it is terrible.

@solrunstefaniabaldursdotti6114 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, the people using it are the problem

@UburntTheCheese 8 ай бұрын

I've noticed a lot of people bemoaning VAR saying get rid of it after the liverpool goal v tottenham debacle but the on field decision (which was a very straightforward call to make) was offside (incorrect) so although VAR failed terribly by not overturning it getting rid of VAR doesn't solve that, the standard of officiating is just absolutely rock bottom right now and VAR is exposing that week in week out by shining a light on it

@perezakram7878 8 ай бұрын

Well said Mark. You get into them. Keep up the good work. All the best mate.

@RedVienna1 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark, great video. Fully agree.

@goonertom6309 8 ай бұрын

Spot on mark. What a joke PGMOL is.

@epicthings9051 8 ай бұрын

So when Casemiro was given a yellow card last season and var said red card, wasn't that a re-refereeing

@MoviesNSeries7 8 ай бұрын

Kudos to you Mark on your courage

@lordanderson1293 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for continuing the fight Mark. More KZfaqrs with reach and football fans should join you in this. We have to keep on fighting till we neuter the incompetent PGMOL

@f1strategist 8 ай бұрын

Funny how they sent the ref to the monitor for Curtis and Gusto, but not Kovacic..

@ellywizzy-qr3xl 8 ай бұрын

Do u know the funniest part of it is Kovacic did it twice ,minus touching the ball , Gusto and Curtis touched the ball first.something they could even give as yellow cards ,, Kovacic two tackles were more than worse

@f1strategist 8 ай бұрын

@@ellywizzy-qr3xl agree, its so insane :/

@adamrowland830 8 ай бұрын

Football is a reflection of how the world we live in is run ...

@Corieorieorie 8 ай бұрын

Stick to football for now please 🤦😂

@user-pq6pq5ep8k 8 ай бұрын

Big up Mark, I know how much you hate Arsenal but you still came out and spoke on this because of the integrity of the league. Cheers mate from an Arsenal fan.

@upyourgame8549 8 ай бұрын

Never let this go Mark!!!!! Lovn your stance on this 💯👊.

@Kildergcowboy 8 ай бұрын

Get Roy Keane to question Webb!!

@KarleaLove 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark for this no one js holding them accountable

@LTSmith914 8 ай бұрын

Referees should undergo some of the training airline pilots go through which teaches them to work as a team to come to the right decision and for junior pilots to be confident enough to speak up when things don’t look right and then senior pilots be brave enough to take that on board! That ability to realise that someone saying you’re doing something wrong isn’t a bad thing would make the VAR decision making 1000x better!

@timothywimpy 8 ай бұрын

talk sport were saying this morning that you basically don't know what you are talking about and do it for likes, they are just scared that you are making them look stupid with all your views, I'm a liverpool fan and love your channel, its so good to hear you talk sense about a sport we all love.

@polkabills 8 ай бұрын

Once again, Mark siding with the beautiful game we love and not the pgmol overlords like most pundits. One week you are giving two controversial red cards in a high profile game the next you don't want to give a red card to impact the game. Zero objectivity, zero accountability. The impunity is going to get to them.

@PiastTorun 8 ай бұрын

Gomez wasn't red got one, Gusto wasn't a red got one, Kovacic had a stinker and wasn't sent off, man City bias or what. Even if we fans thin the result is WRONG at least funking be consistent.